Not suuuuper similar but the suspense and crime-solving techniques are what make me think if you like Criminal Minds, you'd Like Strong Woman. Both go to pretty dark places in a persons mind. Also, Criminal Minds was mentioned in Strong Woman so there's that. Strong Woman is a softer, crime drama in that there is more to it than just crime solving.
If Criminal Minds is too dark I'd definitely check out the Strong Woman!
I'm three episodes in and, despite the copious amount of critical comparisons between the original CM and this remake, I'm actually really liking it so far. It's thrilling and interesting, and although I do think they could do a bit more to explain the science behind everything, I honestly think it deserves an 8.0+ rating. Maybe I have an advantage because I never followed the original CM, but either way, if you're trying to decide if you want to give this a chance, I say definitely go in with a fresh pair of eyes!
And TBHHH, the OST is BUMPIN' and Lee Joon Gi looks so damn good.
After watching 4th ep I'm really considering dropping this drama.
It hurts to see a techie cop getting hacked...
You don't just go around sticking USB flash drives into your servers where all the data is stored, like wtf
I found her sort of annoying from the start, but this is ridiculous.
What's more the inability of this police to track down a phone call or sending a special unit to raid the house is very disturbing, makes me drop this drama; I was on a lecture from police from the city I'm studying at and they said that state police can get anywhere in this region in about 4 minutes on average. I highly doubt that advanced city as Seoul can't do at least the same.
I'm with you about the USB. it disturbed me the moment she plugged it in, even tho she knew that it was not from any reliable sources. tho I'm yet to drop this drama, i noticed that i always holding my phone watching a drama with subtitle but pay attention to drama that i dont need to read subs(original). it shows...
I'm liking the remake. They aren't copying everything but enough to remind me of the original. Plus the cast is really trying to bring out some characteristics from the original cast, which at times feels a bit too much but doesn't really take too much away from the show. It is interesting enough to make me curious about the next episode so I'm going to keep watching.
I'm actually enjoying this drama. I feel like a lot of people aren't enjoying it because they went in with expectations since a lot of people watch the US version. I feel like that's the biggest issue when a drama is "remade". You honestly can't go in with any expectations or else it would ruin the way you view the drama in my opinion.
They are comparing, but it is a lot nicer compared to hate American dramas get when they remake a korean drama. Granted they might be right at times (like the american remake of BOF was truly terrible) but I still think each new drama should get a fair chance as a "remake."
DIdn't watch the original, but korean it's too uptight. Acting is exaggarated, beyond even critical point. Yes, the situations there are very serious, but it doesn't really match the acting of any of the actors here. Really disappointing, cause I'm always looking forward to tvN's dramas
I'm a little torn about whether I like this or not. I love the US criminal minds and have watched the first 6 seasons. Right now I'm on episode 5 of this version and I'm not 100% I want to continue. I was expecting a show about profilers with new cases not the same cases from the original which I already know who the culprit is. Also i don't feel a connection to the characters. So episode 4 did very little for me emotionally, especially since I knew she would die. However I am curious about this 2003 case. I just hope they don't pull out something from season 7-12 from the original that I haven't seen yet.
I'm actually really enjoying this, having seen quite a few seasons of the U.S Criminal Minds, I can see some of the links but I really enjoy this version of it. It's leaving me hooked for more at the end of every episode, I just finished Episode 3 and will be just about to start Episode 4!
I am very much enjoying this. I've seen some of the American version, which I liked but not enough to follow all the seasons. THIS one has Lee Jun Gi, however, so already it's ahead LOL LOL and it also wrap up after 16 episodes instead of dragging on forever....
You can't blame people who saw the original series for comparing the two since they follow the original cases so much (and I don't know about others but I think they messed up the order big time. Killing Ki Hyung's wife so early had 0 impact. I know they wanted to created the case which can be solved throughout the whole 20 eps, but I don't really cared for the victim and in the end I don;t care for the case that much). We had certain expectations for this remake and it's normal and given. One of the things majority of US ver fans loved were the team dynamics, how the show was group oriented and the focus on the psychology of the killers, and the Korean ver lack all of those. We had just a few scenes were the members interacted as a whole, they usually team up Hyun Joon and Sun Woo together (ad they focus way too much on those 2 characters) and Min Young and Lee Han when I would love to see for example Hyun Joon and Min Young as a solving crime buddies. I blame the format of korean dramas for this one. You can't truly develop all the characters AND how they interact with each other and how group dynamics change in 20 episodes. It takes few seasons for sure.
Also, they did picked up the profiling a little bit more in the ep 6, but the delivery is sometimes off. It's frustrating since we know they did some justice in portraying criminal profiling is some dramas like Signal or Tunnel.
Is it a bad drama? no. Is it as good as original? no. could it be? maybe... if they had time and resources to make at least 3 seasons. I think the 'only 20 episodes' is the main issue I have with it. There is too many main characters and too complicated cases to show in such a short time.
In the originals, did they film 1 case for 3-4 episodes format? Or is it the same thing like 1 case = 1 episode? If the rating is not high enough, i doubt they will create another seasons, korean industry is like that, they want to see the rating first, whether it's making money, if not they will not continue the production. Western one is different it think?
With the western shows from the beginning the plan the plot for more than one season coz thy don't mind just cancelling shows after 1 season and not explain anything that actually happened. That's why they don't bombard you with information and characters development the same way they do in korean dramas, coz thy have time to do it gradually over time.
In the us ver they usually had one case per episodes, sometimes it took 2 eps. But they did focus more on the killers compared with koran vers. Again, because they had more time to slowly show and develop characters. This korean ver does not have the luxury to do that.
i only watched 9 eps from s1 of the original yet I did feel the difference right at first episode of this remake.
i like the profiling that shown in the original, somehow they make sense rather than in this.
the Korean version kinda shoves the fact down your throat, we need to accept it as a fact. in the original, they kinda explain how the behaviour initiate or what researches have proven. maybe subtitle translations are the problem, idk.
I did manage to elicit an intelligent response from you, I see. Yes, opinions should be respected only in accordance with their merit, while the right to express them remains.
As for your name, yep, it is indeed ridiculous. BTW I'm a Pagan LOL
As for dissing you, no, I said clearly that if you choose to not act in a decent manner no one has to treat you in a decent one either. Tit for tat.
Good lord, you think a lot of yourself, don't you? I think possibly YOU need to read that as well. Preaching to people about being polite when you yourself are acting above it all is rather hypocritical. I suggest you just stop. Or quit being surprised when others do to you as you do to them LOL
I like being snarky to those that deserve it. Deal or go away.
Thank you, for your response.
This is my last contribution to our discusion.
„Good lord” – face attacking religious taboo language; aim: express a range of negative emotions (irritation, annoyance) to get attention
„you think a lot of yourself, don't you?” – argumentum ad personam - ironical rhetorical question with face-attacking and face-treating effect, aim: belittle opponent’s claim by pointing to his / her real or fictional personal qualities
„I think possibly YOU need to read that as well. Preaching to people about being polite when you yourself are acting above it all is rather hypocritical.“ – argumentum ad hominem – aim: looking for opponent’s claims, which could be in contrary to way of his actions - I was asertive in my opinion and little impolite, because I’m not English speaker, but I’m sure, I wasn’t rude.
„acting above it all“ - argumentum ad personam, aim: insulting opponent‘s character and trying forced him or her intentions, which he / she doesn't have.
„I suggest you just stop. Deal or go away.“ – false dilemma, situation is oversimplified by speaker, opponent gets only two options; aim: restrain of opponents actions, opponent can’t response in any way to win. Speaker gains ilusion of winner in argumentation and moral victory.
„Or quit being surprised when others do to you as you do to them.“ - Speaker makes this claim to perserve his/her own face, before it will be used by opponent in the future.
„LOL” – interjection, emotional expression of dismay, aim: accentuation of speaker’s claim.
„I like being snarky to those that deserve it.“ – centre of whole response, other sentences are unnessesary and meaningless for our discusion, moreover they violate all Grice’s maxims (quantity, quiality, relation, manner). Now I undestand your attitude, but... I miss your criterion for those who „deserve it“, I get our case - one of us takes path of impolitenes, second one path of rudeness in our conversation, so our criterion is „opposites of politeness“, but I don’t see nothing „deserving“ in this comment: „Original CM fans be like: I will watch this just to make sure that it is inferior to the original.“ I think that was only a little bit ironical and quite jovial.
Please, can you write your possibly response about this topic of our conversation not about how much I have fingers or teeths?
Your argumentation (with me) is rude and manipulative empty nothing, you say, it's snarky. „Snarky“..., it’s interesting to think about, why there is someone, who stylizes himself/herself willingly into evil person to hurts people because of their imaginary felonies. I have not such word in my national language, so I have never tried to behave this way, but I’m sure, that you’re happy with my effort of snarky response for you, I’m great student, you know.