Not suuuuper similar but the suspense and crime-solving techniques are what make me think if you like Criminal Minds, you'd Like Strong Woman. Both go to pretty dark places in a persons mind. Also, Criminal Minds was mentioned in Strong Woman so there's that. Strong Woman is a softer, crime drama in that there is more to it than just crime solving.
If Criminal Minds is too dark I'd definitely check out the Strong Woman!
I'm actually really enjoying this, having seen quite a few seasons of the U.S Criminal Minds, I can see some of the links but I really enjoy this version of it. It's leaving me hooked for more at the end of every episode, I just finished Episode 3 and will be just about to start Episode 4!
I am very much enjoying this. I've seen some of the American version, which I liked but not enough to follow all the seasons. THIS one has Lee Jun Gi, however, so already it's ahead LOL LOL and it also wrap up after 16 episodes instead of dragging on forever....
You can't blame people who saw the original series for comparing the two since they follow the original cases so much (and I don't know about others but I think they messed up the order big time. Killing Ki Hyung's wife so early had 0 impact. I know they wanted to created the case which can be solved throughout the whole 20 eps, but I don't really cared for the victim and in the end I don;t care for the case that much). We had certain expectations for this remake and it's normal and given. One of the things majority of US ver fans loved were the team dynamics, how the show was group oriented and the focus on the psychology of the killers, and the Korean ver lack all of those. We had just a few scenes were the members interacted as a whole, they usually team up Hyun Joon and Sun Woo together (ad they focus way too much on those 2 characters) and Min Young and Lee Han when I would love to see for example Hyun Joon and Min Young as a solving crime buddies. I blame the format of korean dramas for this one. You can't truly develop all the characters AND how they interact with each other and how group dynamics change in 20 episodes. It takes few seasons for sure.
Also, they did picked up the profiling a little bit more in the ep 6, but the delivery is sometimes off. It's frustrating since we know they did some justice in portraying criminal profiling is some dramas like Signal or Tunnel.
Is it a bad drama? no. Is it as good as original? no. could it be? maybe... if they had time and resources to make at least 3 seasons. I think the 'only 20 episodes' is the main issue I have with it. There is too many main characters and too complicated cases to show in such a short time.
In the originals, did they film 1 case for 3-4 episodes format? Or is it the same thing like 1 case = 1 episode? If the rating is not high enough, i doubt they will create another seasons, korean industry is like that, they want to see the rating first, whether it's making money, if not they will not continue the production. Western one is different it think?
With the western shows from the beginning the plan the plot for more than one season coz thy don't mind just cancelling shows after 1 season and not explain anything that actually happened. That's why they don't bombard you with information and characters development the same way they do in korean dramas, coz thy have time to do it gradually over time.
In the us ver they usually had one case per episodes, sometimes it took 2 eps. But they did focus more on the killers compared with koran vers. Again, because they had more time to slowly show and develop characters. This korean ver does not have the luxury to do that.
i only watched 9 eps from s1 of the original yet I did feel the difference right at first episode of this remake.
i like the profiling that shown in the original, somehow they make sense rather than in this.
the Korean version kinda shoves the fact down your throat, we need to accept it as a fact. in the original, they kinda explain how the behaviour initiate or what researches have proven. maybe subtitle translations are the problem, idk.
I did manage to elicit an intelligent response from you, I see. Yes, opinions should be respected only in accordance with their merit, while the right to express them remains.
As for your name, yep, it is indeed ridiculous. BTW I'm a Pagan LOL
As for dissing you, no, I said clearly that if you choose to not act in a decent manner no one has to treat you in a decent one either. Tit for tat.
Good lord, you think a lot of yourself, don't you? I think possibly YOU need to read that as well. Preaching to people about being polite when you yourself are acting above it all is rather hypocritical. I suggest you just stop. Or quit being surprised when others do to you as you do to them LOL
I like being snarky to those that deserve it. Deal or go away.
Thank you, for your response.
This is my last contribution to our discusion.
„Good lord” – face attacking religious taboo language; aim: express a range of negative emotions (irritation, annoyance) to get attention
„you think a lot of yourself, don't you?” – argumentum ad personam - ironical rhetorical question with face-attacking and face-treating effect, aim: belittle opponent’s claim by pointing to his / her real or fictional personal qualities
„I think possibly YOU need to read that as well. Preaching to people about being polite when you yourself are acting above it all is rather hypocritical.“ – argumentum ad hominem – aim: looking for opponent’s claims, which could be in contrary to way of his actions - I was asertive in my opinion and little impolite, because I’m not English speaker, but I’m sure, I wasn’t rude.
„acting above it all“ - argumentum ad personam, aim: insulting opponent‘s character and trying forced him or her intentions, which he / she doesn't have.
„I suggest you just stop. Deal or go away.“ – false dilemma, situation is oversimplified by speaker, opponent gets only two options; aim: restrain of opponents actions, opponent can’t response in any way to win. Speaker gains ilusion of winner in argumentation and moral victory.
„Or quit being surprised when others do to you as you do to them.“ - Speaker makes this claim to perserve his/her own face, before it will be used by opponent in the future.
„LOL” – interjection, emotional expression of dismay, aim: accentuation of speaker’s claim.
„I like being snarky to those that deserve it.“ – centre of whole response, other sentences are unnessesary and meaningless for our discusion, moreover they violate all Grice’s maxims (quantity, quiality, relation, manner). Now I undestand your attitude, but... I miss your criterion for those who „deserve it“, I get our case - one of us takes path of impolitenes, second one path of rudeness in our conversation, so our criterion is „opposites of politeness“, but I don’t see nothing „deserving“ in this comment: „Original CM fans be like: I will watch this just to make sure that it is inferior to the original.“ I think that was only a little bit ironical and quite jovial.
Please, can you write your possibly response about this topic of our conversation not about how much I have fingers or teeths?
Your argumentation (with me) is rude and manipulative empty nothing, you say, it's snarky. „Snarky“..., it’s interesting to think about, why there is someone, who stylizes himself/herself willingly into evil person to hurts people because of their imaginary felonies. I have not such word in my national language, so I have never tried to behave this way, but I’m sure, that you’re happy with my effort of snarky response for you, I’m great student, you know.
I like how this drama is very different from k-drama, this one does not have any fillers at all, hahaha, not boring for me, one episode one case, or one case is only 2 episodes. I love how they try to read the suspects' body language, i feel like i am getting involved in studying the suspects' behaviors and also solving the case.
Yeah, I can watch this drama on-going coz it doesn't have that annoying cliff-hanger that makes you feel ughhhhhhhhhhhh the case is not too longggggggg and boring like secret forest. Like 1 case is taking forever to solve it.
Hahaha, secret forest is a good show but you are right, I've got to admit it that it has some boring moments in between. The case is too long and very complicated, I almost lost. I like signal better, signal case is only 1 case for 4 episodes, then finish, start new case, so it doesn't dwell too much on 1 case. Makes me dizzy.
Dropped after first episode. Way too dramatic and didn't really adapt to the low-key atmosphere the original gave off. I think the problem with the Korean adaption is that most dramas revolve around one or two main characters, whereas the American version was definitely centered around a group.
I understand that the American version can get away with that because it spans over several seasons whereas Korean dramas have to adapt to focusing on one or two because of it's short span. Which is why I found that it would be hard to really live up to the original American version.
Character development will be lacking, and from what I've seen, written waaaaay too dramatically for my taste. Writers were having Kim Hyun Joon was just pulling his gun out at unarmed citizens without even blinking. A police officer should understand how to handle themselves under pressure and not let their emotions get the better of them. Kim Hyun Joon's character is wildly un-natural and way too flamboyant. Always letting his emotions get the better of him in every situation. Disrespecting his co-workers so blatantly and in public in front of others. I find Kim Hyun Joon's character super annoying and disrespectful. I get that he lost someone, and I can understand the magnitude of that kind of loss but there are other ways of dealing with your anger rather than in such a childish manner. I blame the writers, not the actors.
Also, the writing was not as natural as I had hoped either. Sorry, don't think this will be as good as the original. I don't root for any country, I root for the original because most of the time, the originals are the best versions of themselves!
I know that kim hyun joon was a bit too much in the first episode, but when i think more about it, if my own sister got kidnapped by the killer, i think i would be as mad as him, luckily he doesn't do that anymore in another cases.
@LeeJ0onGI yeah me too, especially when it is shown from the CCTV, the sister was like trapped inside the cage like a dog waiting to get butchered like that, I think i will get mad, definitely i would not hanging around watching the cctv and asking the suspects nicely and politely with good manner.
its a remake of the american criminal minds
it may not be as gruesome and mature or good as the american one but its worth a shot
n cuz i cant get over the kdrama 'voice' that jang hyuk starred in i got myself distracted by watching k-criminal minds
i love the action and the case that they are handling.. but ep4 has something went off. I noticed all the cases that are handling were well solved and they move very quick.. but in this case, why are they not really moving when Team Manager Kang's wife was about to be killed?
i felt that too before, but trust me, it's getting better coz they explain the character background one by one spreading tru' out the episodes. I believe the writer will also reveal each character's background more deeply. As we get to see hwang nana background as a hacker in the past in ep 6.