Not suuuuper similar but the suspense and crime-solving techniques are what make me think if you like Criminal Minds, you'd Like Strong Woman. Both go to pretty dark places in a persons mind. Also, Criminal Minds was mentioned in Strong Woman so there's that. Strong Woman is a softer, crime drama in that there is more to it than just crime solving.
If Criminal Minds is too dark I'd definitely check out the Strong Woman!
I tried to give this one a fair chance by watching 4 episodes. But sadly it doesnt just click. Actors are decent but the writing is terrible. It feels disconnected. the problem with the series is not predictability. Yyou can pretty much guess with 80% certainty who the criminal is but that in itself isnt the problem if the process of uncovering the truth is decent. I think the writer has mistaken blood and gore for quality writing. Blood and gore is not a problem either. Its just the each episode has some glaring disconnect between characters and the situation. For example: Ha Sun Wo convincing the chief to not kill the serial killer...He had just seen his wife brutally murdered. why is he going to listen to you unless you physically restrain him? And Kim Hyun Joon talking to the kids? the Kids saw their parents murdered and talked to the serial killer. Its not much to assume that they are going to traumatized and not magically recollecta few days later that the killer smelled of peppermint! Its fair to assume a lifetime of trauma for the kids.
Its just too many leaps and assumptions of rational thought in a crime drama. Had to drop this one.
Because it's an adaptation, in western one, it happens that way. The kids remember the murderer's minty breath. That's what different between western style and kdrama style. Western type of writing is anything is possible, but people still in awe with it, but when it's adapted into kdrama/asian, people say it irk them. It's just like the villain in western, they seem to be so smart and powerful, but when it's the asian villain, when they are so smart and powerful, audience will feel weird. Like how come a crazy ahjushi like that can hack the whole NCI system?
Racial bias has nothing to do with the show! At any rate, if it were to be stereotypical, its more believable that an asian can hack the entire computer system. But thats not the point. Its just take a very nimble mind to take leaps in lapse of logic in this one.
Oh come on, I don't believe it a normal ahjushi can hack the whole system like that. There is no background too. Like who is this ahjushi? A genius professor or what. U know. But when it's in western, if a common guy can hack the system, people will believe it. And when it comes to healer, that hacker ahjuma who is so smart can hack everything, but no one complain. I think it got things to do with expectations. People just nitpicking it. When it happens in western show, people kind of expecting it since it's american style.
The reason why they don't need to restrain him is because he is trained to control his emtion that's the reason why he stopped. I think it's not an issue. The peppermint thing is adapted from the main source. They don't have much time to wait for the kids to talk. This show, 1 case = 1 episode. Yeah maybe it's not necessary to have that peppermint scene but that's the reason why profiler deduce it to find the killer too since this person loves to eat peppermint. What puzzled me is that why the killer has been trying to hide himself, but now he just comes out like crazy and he is not afraid to be identified.
This is why I don't watch American shows lol. The stress. I actually really love it so far. The leads are doing an amazing job and the supporting characters as well. The plot is very interesting. I like the analysis of the criminals. I see a lot of complaints about the drama but I honestly am loving it even after that gut punch that was episode 4.
As a huge fan of Criminal Minds, I was worried about this drama. I think they kinda of mixed a few personalities of the original show (which I liked it) and created the new characters: the genius doctor and the computer girl are very similar, but the others not too much. I like Chae Won a lot, so I hope to see a great work here.
They also added the korean drama style, because they are talking about the team personal lifes. The original series did this very little and slowly. I hope they make this more intense since is probably just one season. Also, I know the drama doesnt have romance, but I feel tension between Joon Gi and Chae Won. If not romanticaly, they have some kind of chemestry.
I hope the drama can be just as good as the original, but with the best of korean dramas... it will be like a dream for me! Lets keep watching :)
If you never watched Criminal Minds before, keep in mind that is very different from the crime and mystery korean dramas... is more about behaviour analysis, not always about someone's family or loved one (can have some of this too, but not the main plot, the main plot is the criminal).
After I started kdramas it is hard for me to keep american shows... I just watch Criminal Minds, and sometimes a new series that appears here and there, but I used to love crime and mystery tv shows. I used to love Castle but dropped. I think one of the reasons is too many seasons about the same story... the shows end up draggy. Maybe for me kdramas are easy to follow because they are shorter, so the story has to develop faster. But this korean Criminal Minds are good for my expactations, so far
I watched Castle for all 10 seasons because of Nathan Fillion. Bones because a)I like the character of Temperance Brennan & b)David Boreanaz. I watched all of Grimm - cause fairy tales. I've not watched more than an episode or two of any other US network show in years. I have watched a few of the Netflix/Amazon originals, & do sporadically keep up w/Game of Thrones (having invested 10 years into reading the books/waiting for his majesty Martin to finish them, & realizing the ONLY way to get closure will be thru the TV show).
Other than that, nope. I watch Asian/Brit/European dramas - & mainly KDramas. I can't stand the way shows drag out for so long in the US :( Or stop abruptly before even finishing the story!
Wow! I didnt now Castle had 10 seasons :O I think I dropped at 6... but was a really good criminal drama, really different from others. I think I just couldnt wait more for the story. I've never watched Bones before, so no opinion about it.
I used to love western tv shows... I wonder why asian dramas are so much better to my eyes now. Not just the short story but also, everything is atractive. Asian dramas with some kind of mystery always got me hooked. I love romance genre, but every now and then I pick a crime/ law.
GoT, I took a break... maybe I will watch everything at the end? About netflix productions... Black Mirror was the last one I watched and really enjoyed. All the others ones I ended up dropping... I always think they are missing something.
may i join the conversation? :) i also prefer asian dramas (mainly kdramas) to everything else and stopped watching american tv shows pretty much entirely! i think the reason is that to me, american series tend to have weird storylines. the characters often don't have depth, and if you like them, after a few seasons, the writers would ruin your favorite characters and you would end up not caring about them anymore and feeling bored, because (as you said) the show drags on for too long. somehow, i also feel like most american shows are so.. cold?... i don't know how to explain, but they're just not emotional enough for me :'D haha! oh, and don't even get me started on the romance.... there either is non of it at all or just very sexual kinda relationships and veeeery few actual cute, stable and finally lasting relationships, like in kdramas..
this is almost like a rant xD if not a rant completely. but yeah, i think kdramas have such high quality nowadays and even if they don't, you'll get EMOTIONALLY attached to them and you'll end up binge watching it. (the other thing i just LOVE about kdramas, is that they usually -not always- have an ending and not TOO many episodes. that is a big fat plus in my opinion! it's satisfying~ now... i just want to add, that this exact reason is why i don't watch too many jdramas and stopped watching animes, because they almost always have no real ending. most of the time it's an open ending -while i understand that animes follow mangas and therefore it's impossible to end shows based on them, jdramas should be able to satisfy the viewers with a proper ending-)
i wrote more than i thought i would ;_; sorry >_> have a good night/day! <3
The story Is good so far but I hate the bad quality of this drama. Tvn usually has the best cinematography but not in this drama . The edit looks so weird even the actors faces look strange for me. I hope they fix it .
Yea i don't understand. Why are there so much hate? Usually I'm the one who criticize over-rated kdrama but i think this show is good, what's to criticize about this? There are many other bad kdramas out there which get much higher rating than 8.2. Non sense.
i know stranger is great drama but why compare two dramas which are completely different yes this may not be as great as stranger, but its nowhere ridiculous. well you dint see that tandem between characters in first two episodes because they are strangers and it seems more realistic. it s not a drama about cleaning corruption and the murders related to it. it is a one episode one case drama focusing more on criminals. yes first episode has some editing problems that is the only problem this one had. well if you are expecting one long alongated case which is spread for 16 episodes then this show is not for you. its a fast and furious mode one episode one case format and the characters are still in the process of learning and trusting each other. dont diss another drama because you like other drama better. may be you should quit watching it because they are not going to spoonfeed each and every action of every one. neither in the original nor here
I agree. Some people are just too ridiculous for comparing drama apple to apple. Stranger is not an adaptation and it's not talking about criminal minds. Criminal mind is talking about how criminals show their characters, their behavior, their motive, their past, their history, their cause and so on. It focuses more on the criminal. Period. It's not a story about the main characters' lives.
oh i think i get what people are trying to say here, some people find it hard to connect to certain character, i think it's because of there are many characters involved in this drama. It's a teamwork drama, there are 6 people, in the first 2 episodes, they have not talked much of the 6 characters. In another drama, main leads only about 4 people max, and even 2 or 3 persons. They can develop the characters deeply and 1 character have more scenes and time. In criminal minds, there are too many characters, each character only has a few minutes for us to see their character not to mention they need to focus more on the criminal. That's the reason why some people feel disconnected to the main characters. Oh well, since it's an adaptation and they should stick to 6 people as main leads format, what can we do? I believe the story will expand itself until ep 20. Perhaps we will see more depth on each character later on.
I am not saying there should be less characters, coz that would be ridiculous. I'm just comparing the kr version and us ver and how they handle the number of people in team in the overall plot. While in us ver all characters were equally important and the focus changed from one to another during episodes, in kr version we can clearly see Hyun Joon, Sun Woo and Ki Hyung as the center of the plot and the focus of the show. In 3rd episode they had amazing opportunity to at least slightly develop Min Young characters but they cut the train hostage case short and focused on Hyun Joon instead.
I enjoy the drama for sure, but only if I don't think of it as kr ver of Criminal Minds. The majority of characters are off and nothing like the us ver. You can see they tried to make them similar but they clearly did not understand their source material.
hmm i see, yes i get what u mean. In US version they developed all characters right, so they all equally important. Yes, that's what i meant that they should have more episodes for this version to talk about other characters, now it seems that other characters are redundant. i have not seen episode 3 yet, i want to wait for episode 4 then i will watch both 2 episodes straight away. Hehe.
actually i dont see any difference here in characters from original, in the biginning ried had the exact same amount of lines as of the original, i found him interesting only after i saw 8 to nine episodes when he started showing more depth. till then i thought he was just okay. only one thing missing here is the little flirting hehhehe but i think their bond will increase soon as they are together and episode three already shows they got close
It is an adaptation of a US TV show - most of us KNOW who the characters are LOL & even if one doesn't, well, this is how most of the TV I've ever watched did things. Cry for us Westerners if you will, cause I do like fully developed characters & interrelationships, but I certainly can follow & enjoy a show like this one. And I predict it will have much better developed relationships than the original, simply because it IS a Korean adaptation.
I started watching the drama because there's Lee Junki and Moon Chaewon in it, lol. Meaning I had zero expectations of the plot. While it isn't my typical kdrama where I get "attached" to the story/characters, I think it has a charm of its own. Since it's a remake, it's trying to follow the format of the original series where there's much less focus on the personal lives of the characters, and more on the cases. But I guess we'll be seeing more of the characters' personal lives soon. One thing I'm still trying to figure out though, is Moon Chaewon's character. I believe she is a vital member of the team, but she is the person who isn't doing much for the time, except for being Kang Kihyung's right hand (w/c I don't understand why she is his right hand). Hope to see more of her soon.
Maybe the reason the show looks kinda boring to some viewers including me its because its an exact remake of the american series.It seems very foreign and I can not get connect with the stories and the actors.I can tell they do a good job but something its missing.I dont believe the particular dramas with the travel time/communicate to the past /read people's mind /had an emotionless genius prosecutor were big hits just because they had these elements.Viewers saw something that was speaking to them.Something that CM doesn t have.Its like you watch a good performance with out that something else to make it exceptional . I dont see why I can not say my opinion.I watched 3 episodes and I ll tell what I think. We say our opinion and that s it.
And seems that this is very american type of show, perhaps some of kdrama fans don't really like it is understandable since they like kdrama format. I honestly have been watching american shows too and i find this is a good show. I am used to american show. Despite some of it's flaws, it's not a big deal. Other kdramas also have their flaws. This show does not have that kind of fantasy format whereby the main protagonist can travel in time / communicate to the past or they can read people's mind to their advantage or they have brain surgey which cause them to have no emotion and single handedly uncover the corruption. I think those shows are not even real to begin with. This show is more relatable, it's a team work and there is no fantasy involved. Maybe that's the reason why my husband likes to watch it. No drama is perfect. Stop nitpicking it.
To repeat it again, criminal minds is a criminal police shows. Stranger is a drama to uncover corruption. It's similar like defendant. Actually, I'm getting bored with the same type of drama like stranger. This corruption thing. Stranger is good but somehow my husband keeps falling asleep while watching it hahaha. I mean, everytime i play stranger, he falls asleep in 15 mins, it just happens everytime so that i have given up asking him to watch it.
I think criminal mind has it's own charm since my husband never fall asleep watching it and it has some quirky scenes and funny characters too. It's not boring. Even now he has been asking when is the next episode comes out? Maybe this type of shows is not female's cup of tea. Females expect romance which is weird in this kind of shows.