LouM:Haven't read any comments of the users mentioned so i can't have an opinion but because i was reading the thread and read the comment from Living Tribunal on this thread,that i personally do not think Dear Hyeri ML and Go Back Lover FL actions are relatively close.
Dear Hyeri ML is way worse and deservedly gets hated for it,i'm all up for calling out hypocricy and double standards but that ain't it.
Could you explain why you believe the ML of Dear Hyeri is considered worse than the FL of Go Back Lover when both struggle with similar commitment issues toward marriage? I’m genuinely confused about what the ML of Dear Hyeri has done that’s so unforgivable. It’s not just a case of a divided opinion like we see with the FL of Go Back Lover—the comments overwhelmingly criticize him, with only 1 or 2 exceptions. People are even threatening to boycott Shin Hye Sun’s upcoming dramas and calling for the ML’s death, just so the FL can end up with the very good-looking SML, who is apparently blameless in their eyes, even after his actions in episodes 7 and 8. What’s going on here? It feels like there’s an extreme bias toward the FL and SML that I don’t fully understand.
eh dear hyeri comments are indeed extreme sometimes.For me the problem with ML of dear hyeri is that he led the FL for a second time before dumping her,he tried to jeopardize his work for the FL's work status which the FL would never like as she has a lot of pride which shows that he doesn't understand her,also i think that i'ts true that both the FL here and ML in Dear Hyeri lack communication skills.FL also never interfered with the ML at all,he could have easily moved on,meanwhile ML as soon as FL showed interest to another man he immediatly tried to sabotage her relationship even though he doesn;t accept her.
LouM:eh dear hyeri comments are indeed extreme sometimes.For me the problem with ML of dear hyeri is that he led the FL for a second time before dumping her,he tried to jeopardize his work for the FL's work status which the FL would never like as she has a lot of pride which shows that he doesn't understand her,also i think that i'ts true that both the FL here and ML in Dear Hyeri lack communication skills.FL also never interfered with the ML at all,he could have easily moved on,meanwhile ML as soon as FL showed interest to another man he immediatly tried to sabotage her relationship even though he doesn;t accept her.
I get what you’re saying, but I still think the ML in Dear Hyeri is being unfairly judged. His commitment issues don’t just come from nowhere—they’re rooted in the fact that he has several elderly family members, and he doesn’t want to burden his partner with the responsibility of caring for them. That’s a heavy thing to carry, and it’s understandable why he’s hesitant to fully commit. It’s not like he’s just playing around with her feelings.
When he jeopardized his job, it wasn’t out of disrespect for the FL’s pride. He was trying to show her how much he cares by putting her first, even if it wasn’t the best decision. It wasn’t a lack of understanding but more of a flawed way of expressing his commitment.
And when he tried to interfere with her new relationship, I don’t see it as sabotage out of spite. He still loves her and is terrified of losing her, which triggered that reaction. On the other hand, the FL in Go Back Lover has been avoiding her ML without a clear reason, but very few are calling her out for it.
Also, let’s not forget that the SML in Dear Hyeri isn’t innocent either. He made several mistakes, like asking the FL when Hyeri would return, which was offensive. It felt like he only wanted her DID personality, not Eun Ho, the original FL. Yet people are still saying they deserve each other despite that, while the ML gets all the hate. The ML also has his reasons for his actions—he wants to become a famous announcer in hopes that his missing mother will see him, which adds another layer to his struggles.
Both the ML and FL have their communication and commitment issues, but it feels like the ML is being judged way more harshly while the FL in Go Back Lover and even the SML in Dear Hyeri get a pass.
I understand the reason you are trying to justify him,i don't think the 2ndML is really getting a pass on Dear Hyeri either but he is judged less harshly and i'ts understandable,he hasnt hurt FL besides the Coffe scene because the only person he could confide and loved turned out to be nonexistent,but it seems he is trying to find the FL and apologize according ot the preview.Anyway the 2ndML/ML both have their shorcomings,in the end it will go back to FL with ML propably.
Personally if you put me in the shoes of the ML of go back lover or the shoes of FL in Dear Hyeri and someone did that to me and i knew the reasons behind it,i would accept the counterpart of go back lover and not Dear Hyeri.I think he had his chance to explain the second time but he didn't,that's a big foul,fo me it show lack of maturity and weak/cowardice behaviour.
Anyway i dont think it really matters in the end,just wanted to share what i thought on the specific matter,dont wanna try to invalidate your opinion.
I can't speak for Living Tribunal. After reading his comments and his "my call for accountability in how we judge male and female characters" he's correct in calling attention to the disparity in the comments disparaging the male lead in Dear Hyeri and the female lead in Go Back Lover. GBL's FL is toxic. Just as the ML in DH has red flags which can't be ignored, for now. Calling out the behavior of the characters who display the same toxic harmful behaviors shouldn't be based on gender. Giving a pass to one and not another is toxic in itself. But at the end of the day, it's the writer who gives rise to this in their portrayal of their characters.
Tanvi Sanaye:and yess pov matters if it's toxic male ..hate goes 100x if it's toxic female they go unnoticed in cute or "she is just confused" behaviour
LOL You are so right. Too, pov is from the viewers when a ML has red flags but they're practically saints according to how good looking they are. Then the red flags of the FL are blasted over the moon.
The whole point of this thread from the OP's viewpoint is in suggesting others Block accts that have differed with his/her opinion.
There's an option under every comment to Report the comment, yet OP wants everyone to pick his side and Block them. Ludicous. Several peolple have reported this thread.
@Tanvi Sanaye I feel like either I wasn’t able to express my views clearly, or they were misunderstood. I didn’t even comment on Dear Hyeri's Drama page because I wasn’t much bothered by the hate the ML was getting—it made sense given his actions in the drama. What bothered me was that the FL in Go Back Lover has similar issues, but we don’t see nearly as much criticism of her. Meanwhile, the ML in Dear Hyeri is being criticized constantly. Your points are valid, but I think the hate towards him is too extreme. In Go Back Lover, many viewers are analyzing the FL's bad behavior, while in Dear Hyeri, only one or two are doing the same for the ML. This feels like clear hypocrisy to me.
Living Tribunal:Meanwhile, the ML in Dear Hyeri is being criticized constantly. Your points are valid, but I think the hate towards him is too extreme.
I think the hate towards him in DH evolved from his real life situation. They've compounded the character WITH the actor. They aren't able to differeniate between the two.
There's an actor who I can't watch whatever he's in bc I wouldn't be able to distinquish between him and his character. If they don't like the actor or actress and watch whatever they're in and then heavily complain, I'm glad MDL has the Report and Block option.
This thread shouldn't have been made at all. Opinions will differ across MDL. I continue to scroll. If foul, vile, or disgusting comments are in my view, I'll report the comment, and sometimes Block the account user. Making a thread simply bc someone doesn't have the same opinion as the original thread maker is beyond disturbing.
Living Tribunal:Did you start the drama yet? If yes, how are you liking it now?
Couldn't make myself go further than episode 4. Too slow. Too meh. I don't have to watch a drama to see whether the FL of one drama or the ML of another drama are getting equal complaints or not. I've read the comments. Yes, unforunately my entire day was spent yest on reading comments on the 2 dramas, and reporting. They both have complaints, not in equal measure.
I commented on this thread for one reason ONLY. It was calling on other accounts to Block the accts they listed. Which is a free speech problem. Which is bullying. The option is under EVERY single comment across MDL and people can use their freedom of speech to ignore or report. Secondary, it gave me the opportunity to read the comments to see if OP was correct or not, which in turn gave me 2 Blocks, 2 ignores, and 1 new found friend. Also 1 new found friend who commented in this thread not related to the comments OP referenced.
LucyL:This thread shouldn't have been made at all. Opinions will differ across MDL. I continue to sccroll. If foul, vile, or disgusting comments are in my view, I'll report the comment, and sometimes Block the account user. Making a thread simply bc someone doesn't have the same opinion as the original thread maker is beyond disturbing.
It’s too bad though, that this thread is getting more pushback than the original offensive comments (and I have personally seen a LOT of horrible comments , and not just on the two dramas mentioned here.) I report and report and nothing happens. This thread will be taken down but the comments calling women (and others) whores and sluts and retards and all manner of awfulness will stay up.
Popcxqueen:and I have personally seen a LOT of horrible comments , and not just on the two dramas mentioned here
So have I. Yest I backed out of the comment section under another drama (not mentioned here) so quickly I tripped over myself. It was disgusting, and led me to Support in Forums to see if the accts and their comments were Reported. Since, I've seen a small few deleted while the others are still up days on end according to the day stamp on their comments.
I'm older and retired with nothing but time on my hands. I've offered to help clean up the SPAM comments and the comments you've mentioned. How does one speak to someone who has the ability of having a volunteer retiree assist? They need more mods.They need critical thinkers. They need someone who has the life experience to discern when a comment goes beyond and into vile territory.
I wish there was a way to upvote your post. I saw you got some pushback from others in this forum so I just wanted to send some support for your list of problematic accounts. It's not like you're making anyone do anything. Arguing that this is some free speech matter is bullshit. They still have the ability to spew their bile, we just don't have to see it. I've been so tired of the crazy misogynistic rants in recent dramas this year and this drama was the final straw. I've blocked so many accounts. I am so tired of the s word lol it's not even a bad word but im so sick of it i won't type it
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