The beginning is very rough. The 2 main leads basically are in a competition on which one can be the most arrogant…
I agree the ML here is too much for an all-powerful male Mary Sue. He is too perfect. I guess they try to compensate by giving him the flaw of also being annoying and judgem ental..but he winds up just as both a mary sue AND annoying lol. To me JJH plays too charmingly that I'm just mildly annoyed by her character so far but mostly even liking her & rooting for her character.
Despite that this drama has imo a VERY high entertainment value, no dragging at all; I hope it stays that way throughout whole drama (I just started it for the first time).
From what ep onwards did it start to get good then? I'm mid ep 2 and still bored as hell, and wondering if i should…
Well I guess PURE family dramas are not for me; I do like them when they mix in Revenge or Mafia and make them less about real life problems that way but more real danger aka. Many Crime-Telenovelas and some turkish drama.
Sky Castle is more like a parody of real life, and I do like parodies...when they are more either COMEDIES or FULLY MAJKANG (or more scifi/fantasy/unique ala Squid Game). One The Woman for example is great but has COMEDY and identity swap mixed in w. typical boring fam drama. So to me, Sky Castle comes ascross as neither commiting to HILARIOUS Social commentary (tag claims this is black comedy...but it's honestly lacking, Vinzenco for example has actual black COMEDY) nor going fully high-stakes makjang; ending up with just a typical fam drama that shows more real life genre but in a boring way.....So I'm left neither laughing nor emotionally affected by the drama.
The goals of the main characters are also too boring to me, so I end up not rooting for anyone on Sky Castle. In Penthouse I want to slap all chracters every second lol😅, Sky Castle in worst in that I don't give a f what happens even lol.
One The Woman, Vincenzo, The Fiery Priest = Aced the comedy
Many Mafia telenovelas (they often have fam drama mixed in), Black Money Love, aka. mafia-rom-fam turkish drama(turkish dramas frequently have fam drama), Squid Game (not much fam drama but has a more fun and unique take on real life parody/social commentray than Sky Castle), The Last Empress (fam drama w . makjang edge) = NAILED The Makjang/drama (without being annoying like Penthouse)
Sky Castle = in between, not commiting to either side, No rootable goals, stakes aren't high enough (compared to when mafia or dangerous revenge involved) or not funny enough either, no laugh aloud black comedy....I wind up bored.
But anyway that's just my opinion, it seems most other were able to enjoy this drama, that is fine, I'm happy for you all, just different tastes.
And thanks for being logical and not judging nor attacking for differing taste, too many times the fans of popular dramas get mega butthurt about the few who dislike and childishly start attacking for differing opinions. 🤦🏻♀️
Btw sorry for long comment 😅, as I was typing I realized more & more exactly why Sky Castle wasn't for me.
Penthouse feels more like. a parody of makjnag than a makjang 😅 Maybe its genres should be listed as both makjang AND comedy lol
WHO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RATING THIS MASTERPIECE SO LOW?!?!
Should be 10/10, but really this one is really like 15/10 utter flawless perfection AND DEEP AND INSPIRING AS F!!....People just don't know a masterpiece when they see one sigh
Propably idiots who only want to watch fluffy happy shallow things
Just started watching this classic for the first time, so far I can understand the hype, it's really entertaining so far.
Also FINALLY THEY CAST A CHILD ACTRESS WHO ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE THE LEAD!! She's looks SO alike , that everytime I see her on screen I'm blown away by the fact that she's NOT Jun Ji Hyun's real life sister lol; finally no suspension of disbelief needed on that front! XD
So grateful to writer-nim for NOT making the leads into the terminally ill ones, so tired of that overused and ANNOYING trope; this sounds much better with others being the patients and watching the leads grow from it all rather than having to watch a ticking timebomb for the leads. Here's hoping for some AMAZING writing, JCW deserves to finally have a drama with good writing all the way through!
Just because a drama doesn't have a " happy ending" doesn't mean it's not a good drama. Life is not always full…
I always say you have to add at least 2-3 stars to every sad/not fluffy butterflies drama (and usually 2-3 stars taken away if it's fluffy happy drama) on MDL because of the idiotic kdrama audience masses who are EXTREMELY ALLERGIC to sadness & keep giving bad scores to dramas not fluffly unicorns 😁🦄⭐happy go lucky.
This is just so-so, the female lead is really the best thing here, she's hilarious; but at same time the drama is kind of boring too, not eager to continue, only not dropping it yet because of FL character is one of the best I've ever seen in a drama; but I don't know, the plot is just dragging, it doesn't really deserve the hype....
I finished watching this series in a few days and I have a few things I wanted to get off of my chest. First of…
" The only redeeming thing would be is Joon Ho is still alive and didn't in fact perish in the sea and has been secretly hiding to take down the people behind the game and Gi Hoon joins him. Then that would be an entirely different genre of this drama. So who knows. " >>>> Sounds like the plot for a possible season 2. Maybe becuse it's Netflix who likes seasons, they're planning a season 2??? Especially considering the drama's success. Would be better than just leaving the ML doing that at the end...
Also I like the idea of the cop actually being alive, he's possibly the most interesting character, if they'd do a season 2 I want that cop back and fighting/exposing them.
When the world is set up in such a hardcore sucking way that it's a more viable option for some people to get themselves kidnapped to play a deadly game set up by some unknown psycho than trying to survive the "old fashioned way"...... I LOVE the social commentary aspect to this, this is so much deeper and better than the usual shallow action style stories in this death game genre. I also like how while it has plenty of gore and disturbing scenes, it's not HORROR genre, it's not scary to watch at all; can't after all make the viewer think and pick up its social commentray messages if they scare off the viewers from watching it lol.
Watched the first 2 eps, I like it so far, now continuing to binge....
So will it be based on the classic novel in any way? With such a title its impossible to not make the connection
Yes my first instinct when reading the title of this article was, "A kdrama remake of the classic novel?!"....but NO mention of it in the article?? hmm...
YES YES YES! We need more women-centered kdramas, and both Nam Ji Hyun & Kim Go Eun?!? HELL YESS!!! I hope they accept. So curious who they'll cast as the 3rd sister.
Also as much as I normally like romance, I hope this one doesn't have any or very minimal only, a good sister bond will be interesting enough to watch. And that PD + Writer too whoo hoo!!
Personally, I agree with banning porn because look at the countries which allow just about anything sexually related…
Thinking about it more, I think also GENDER also has to do with Squid Game's popularity and romance kdramas non-popularity: In general romance (&thus the more traditional kdramas) are geared towards and watched by female audiences, so half of the earth's population is already biased against. I'm positive that if High-concept Kdramas like Squid Game had a loveline between main leads it would not do any worse, since the selling point isn't the romance but the concept, and high concepts are embraced more readily by both westerners and by men. Even Black Money Love is half thriller-romance so has an unusual high amount of male fans even male shippers despite extreme romance centricism lol. Netflix is really is strategic in their choices, They love to reunite well-recived pairings in new projects and avoid adding most of the "traditional" type series from other countries; and they still haven't added the Black Money Love pairing's reunion project into Netflix, obviously it's because that show's original channel dared censor Turkish's IT couple's romance scenes even more than kdramas, even when 90% of its audience was from EU/Outside Turkey 🤦🏻♀️😅 (What on earth were they thinking?!?....I will never get over this unforgivable censor ship🤦🏻♀️)
.....they'll probably add it once they start to promote more of their new Turkish originals (some of which feature the BlackMoneyLove lead actors), a second backlash over the IT Couple's censorship brings great attention/promo to Turkish's shows LMAO 😅😅
But Anyway Yes hopefully Netflix (&likely will ! going by Netflix's history of being strategic) will do more unique/High concept kdramas (with or without romance) but selling point/focus on the concept from now on; I had to drop Love Alarm on ep 1 😅 Too silly and bad as hell writing.....Allthough it has a more unique concept than many kdramas, the selling point was romance.....Well, that one didn't do so well, and Netflix being strategic as I pointed out will more likely now after Squid Game's success focus on High Concept. I just hope after Netflix, that other streaming platforms would also follow. I would especially love for them to introduce korean Makjang to international audiences through some kind of High-Concept style makjang and not the typical one.
Personally, I agree with banning porn because look at the countries which allow just about anything sexually related…
This conversation is so interesting, indeed the ridiculous cuteness aegyo expectations and sex censorship are creating both social problems in korea but also making the western world put off from really embracing their dramas. So it's no wonder that now in Europe the first ever kdrama to be in top10 is not about platonic/childish/kstyle romance.
Not that Europe has anything against romance, it's just the awkarndess & unrealistic kstyle (&other asian countries') romance: If you look at other countries' (american or european) romance series they do quite well, because they include actually kissing, proper make out sessions and sex in varying degrees. Even the most Popular Turkish Tv series Black Money Love which has literaly the most amount of romance (nonstop kissing hugging cuddling for 160+ eps lol)I've EVER seen in a series ever lol does well on Netflix and it's because (beside written extremely well and insane out of this world chemistry) they have actaul romance and not silly fishkissing platonic love lol.
The cultural differences in sex & romance are too large, the only way for Kdramas to sell well would be if they embraced proper romance, and if not some sex then at least heavy passionate make out sessions at least....Which isn't happening like EVER lol .....or Through the other option: Sell by unique concept (aka. Squid Game style). So nope, I don't think romance centric kdramas will ever reache the hights, even though their popularity is growing, but the immaturity of "romance" are too off-putting for most westerners.
To me JJH plays too charmingly that I'm
just mildly annoyed by her character so far but mostly even liking her & rooting for her character.
Despite that this drama has imo a VERY high entertainment value, no dragging at all; I hope it stays that way throughout whole drama (I just started it for the first time).
Sky Castle is more like a parody of real life, and I do like parodies...when they are more either COMEDIES or FULLY MAJKANG (or more scifi/fantasy/unique ala Squid Game).
One The Woman for example is great but has COMEDY and identity swap mixed in w. typical boring fam drama.
So to me, Sky Castle comes ascross as neither commiting to HILARIOUS Social commentary (tag claims this is black comedy...but it's honestly lacking, Vinzenco for example has actual black COMEDY)
nor going fully high-stakes makjang; ending up with just a typical fam drama that shows more real life genre but in a boring way.....So I'm left neither laughing nor emotionally affected by the drama.
The goals of the main characters are also too boring to me, so I end up not rooting for anyone on Sky Castle. In Penthouse I want to slap all chracters every second lol😅, Sky Castle in worst in that I don't give a f what happens even lol.
One The Woman, Vincenzo, The Fiery Priest = Aced the comedy
Many Mafia telenovelas (they often have fam drama mixed in), Black Money Love, aka. mafia-rom-fam turkish drama(turkish dramas frequently have fam drama), Squid Game (not much fam drama but has a more fun and unique take on real life parody/social commentray than Sky Castle), The Last Empress (fam drama w . makjang edge)
= NAILED The Makjang/drama (without being annoying like Penthouse)
Sky Castle = in between, not commiting to either side, No rootable goals, stakes aren't high enough (compared to when mafia or dangerous revenge involved) or not funny enough either, no laugh aloud black comedy....I wind up bored.
But anyway that's just my opinion, it seems most other were able to enjoy this drama, that is fine, I'm happy for you all, just different tastes.
And thanks for being logical and not judging nor attacking for differing taste, too many times the fans of popular dramas get mega butthurt about the few who dislike and childishly start attacking for differing opinions. 🤦🏻♀️
Btw sorry for long comment 😅, as I was typing I realized more & more exactly why Sky Castle wasn't for me.
Penthouse feels more like. a parody of makjnag than a makjang 😅 Maybe its genres should be listed as both makjang AND comedy lol
I also came to this after watching some e of Penthouse, in comparison this lacks drama....( that one has too much lol)
Should be 10/10, but really this one is really like 15/10 utter flawless perfection AND DEEP AND INSPIRING AS F!!....People just don't know a masterpiece when they see one sigh
Propably idiots who only want to watch fluffy happy shallow things
Also FINALLY THEY CAST A CHILD ACTRESS WHO ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE THE LEAD!! She's looks SO alike , that everytime I see her on screen
I'm blown away by the fact that she's NOT Jun Ji Hyun's real life sister lol;
finally no suspension of disbelief needed on that front! XD
Here's hoping for some AMAZING writing, JCW deserves to finally have a drama with good writing all the way through!
>>>> Sounds like the plot for a possible season 2.
Maybe becuse it's Netflix who likes seasons, they're planning a season 2??? Especially considering the drama's success. Would be better than just leaving the ML doing that at the end...
Also I like the idea of the cop actually being alive, he's possibly the most interesting character, if they'd do a season 2 I want that cop back and fighting/exposing them.
I also like how while it has plenty of gore and disturbing scenes, it's not HORROR genre, it's not scary to watch at all; can't after all make the viewer think and pick up its social commentray messages if they scare off the viewers from watching it lol.
Watched the first 2 eps, I like it so far, now continuing to binge....
So curious who they'll cast as the 3rd sister.
Also as much as I normally like romance, I hope this one doesn't have any or very minimal only,
a good sister bond will be interesting enough to watch.
And that PD + Writer too whoo hoo!!
I'm positive that if High-concept Kdramas like Squid Game had a loveline between main leads it would not do any worse, since the selling point isn't the romance but the concept, and high concepts are embraced more readily by both westerners and by men. Even Black Money Love is half thriller-romance so has an unusual high amount of male fans even male shippers despite extreme romance centricism lol.
Netflix is really is strategic in their choices, They love to reunite well-recived pairings in new projects and avoid adding most of the "traditional" type series from other countries; and they still haven't added the Black Money Love pairing's reunion project into Netflix, obviously it's because that show's original channel dared censor Turkish's IT couple's romance scenes even more than kdramas, even when 90% of its audience was from EU/Outside Turkey 🤦🏻♀️😅 (What on earth were they thinking?!?....I will never get over this unforgivable censor ship🤦🏻♀️)
.....they'll probably add it once they start to promote more of their new Turkish originals (some of which feature the BlackMoneyLove lead actors), a second backlash over the IT Couple's censorship brings great attention/promo to Turkish's shows LMAO 😅😅
But Anyway Yes hopefully Netflix (&likely will ! going by Netflix's history of being strategic) will do more unique/High concept kdramas (with or without romance) but selling point/focus on the concept from now on; I had to drop Love Alarm on ep 1 😅 Too silly and bad as hell writing.....Allthough it has a more unique concept than many kdramas, the selling point was romance.....Well, that one didn't do so well, and Netflix being strategic as I pointed out will more likely now after Squid Game's success focus on High Concept. I just hope after Netflix, that other streaming platforms would also follow.
I would especially love for them to introduce korean Makjang to international audiences through some kind of High-Concept style makjang and not the typical one.
Not that Europe has anything against romance, it's just the awkarndess & unrealistic kstyle (&other asian countries') romance: If you look at other countries' (american or european)
romance series they do quite well, because they include actually kissing, proper make out sessions
and sex in varying degrees.
Even the most Popular Turkish Tv series Black Money Love which has literaly the most amount of romance (nonstop kissing hugging cuddling for 160+ eps lol)I've EVER seen in a series ever lol does well on Netflix and it's because (beside written extremely well and insane out of this world chemistry) they have actaul romance and not silly fishkissing platonic love lol.
The cultural differences in sex & romance are too large, the only way for Kdramas to sell well would be if they embraced proper romance, and if not some sex then at least heavy passionate make out sessions at least....Which isn't happening like EVER lol
.....or Through the other option: Sell by unique concept (aka. Squid Game style).
So nope, I don't think romance centric kdramas will ever reache the hights, even though their popularity is growing, but the immaturity of "romance" are too off-putting for most westerners.