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Chapter 7 Wrap Up and Overall Take
The Chess Match : The Loser Treat
I consider this whole chess match scene somehow chilling overall rather than competing although it is a chess match. Xiao Liu tried to avoid Jing. Nevertheless, she was totally happy to play chess with Xuan, and was spoiled by Jing. In fact, Jing let Xiao Liu lead the match, although she's crappy in it, but he will fix it up for her. Winning or losing is not important as long as there is happiness. In this way, Xiao Liu also get to enjoy the match.
In the context, it is said that Xuan only used one third of his skill in playing with others. However, with Jing, Master Qing Qiu, he was putting 100%. He was not so happy he won in the end because the opponent Jing, may not have used all his skills.
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Fang Feng Yi Yang and Tushan Jing
Tushan Jing's fiance, Fang Feng Yi Yang, had appeared in Qing Shui Town. Was she coming to meet Tu Shan Jing? Her family background was told by Xuan in the novel of how whole family and ancestors are great archers. The legend told that their ancestor shot the star down before.
By what Jing Ye said, it represents how Fang Feng Yi Yang and Tushan Jing were compatible. Because she's beautiful and delicate yet very good at archery. And Tushang Jing can design bows for her. She liked sightseeing and he could drew landscapes for her. And that she's a good chess player.
Nevertheless in this meeting Tushan Jing returned her elegant bow courteously.
By what Jing Ye had recalled Tushan Jing was a great businessman. Moreover, he was sweet and considerate. However, times had changed her master Tushan Jing did not seem to have passion in life as before after disappearing for 9 years. He was treated 6 years in Hui Chun Clinic . What happened in 3 years were unknown. Jing claimed he had no memory. However Jing Ye already suspected the elder brother.
All in all in this part of chapter, we finally Jing's fiance and how much she looked compatible to him. Nevertheless, this was his first time seeing her. Their interaction was way too formal for a couple.
Is it true that Jing had lost passion in life as Jing Ye claimed? Did Fang Feng Yi Yang came to Qing Shui town to meet Tushan Jing or did she have other intentions?
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Wen Xiao Liu & Xuan
By the conversation, Xuan had some interest in Tushan Clan., whether the clan would became his ally or enemy. He might have wanted to use Xiao Liu for the connection. He might have guessed the influence Xiao Liu had on Tushan Jing.
And another fact revealed in this abstract is that Xuan knew his limit that he might not be able to win on fight with a demon general as Xiang Liu.
I may skipped some scene to when Xuan got injured from arrow shot already.
Xiao Liu showed her concern for Xuan deeply here because Xuan was struck by Fang Feng Yi Yang's arrow. She was willing to steal the ice crystal for him. Xiao Liu did show her knowledge of knowing the ice crystal and how to cure it. I think that probably had good impression on Xuan.
Overall in chapter 7, Xuan overall had good feelings towards Xiao Liu although he had not realized that Xiao Liu was his long lost beloved cousin. Xiao Liu had saved his life two times. And it seemed Xuan was impressed by Xiao Liu medical knowledge and skills. He offered her to go with him. And SHE REFUSED. Because she was attached to life in Qing Shui town. In previous chapter Xiao Liu also refused the shelter from Xiang Liu when Xuan was after her. In fact, I have a feeling that Xiao Liu did not want any of these political conflicts in her life . She just wanted a quiet life although maybe curious and long for advanture at times, a normal life is a treasure to her.
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Was Wen Xiao Liu disappointed Jing/Ye Shi Qi had a fiance?
Wen Xiao Liu knew that Jing had fiance. But we could all feel that she was disappointed and not feel so right about Jing having fiance. She always comforted herself that it's normal people come and go away from her. Yet she still could not take at the mentioning of Jing's fiance.
Of course Jing would help her very easily to get Ice Crystal to heal Xuan's wound. In here, he also made Jing promised her never to kill Xuan. And Jing agreed easily. We can see Wen Xiao Liu trust Jing completely. Although she may not dare to reveal about Fang Feng Yi Yang assasination attempt on Xuan, she was just happy Jing was not part of this issue. The scene also include Wen Xiao Liu's teasing to Jing Ye, showing her naughty bubbling side.
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Xiang Liu Drowning Xiao Liu for Advantage
Xiang Liu hinted how he wanted Xuan dead. Xiao Liu knew he wanted her to follow him, so she did. Xiao Liu might already guessed that Xiang Liu might hurt her. I felt uncomfortable in reading how Xiao Liu shook his head in fear and plead. In fact this whole scene is uncomfortable to me. In my previous post I have already shared Xuan got shot by the Fang Feng Yi Yang's arrow. The plan Xiang Liu and Fang Feng Yi Yang to work together to kill off Xuan. It was no surprise he will be using Xiao Liu, who had bugs connection with Xuan at the time. Even though she said she wanted make Xiang Liu miserable, she did not clearly hated him that is why she still can talk to him mostly in good manners. I guess she understood well that Xuan and Xiang Liu were from opposite side. Therefore they fought to kill each other may feel just normal to her. But at the same time , Xiao Liu was still clearly siding with Xuan. It was shown by her shaking legs and even to ask him about why he was loyal to Gong Gong. And their conversation is in bicker in nature. Despite, Xiang Liu drowning Wen Xiao Liu for taking advantage in hurting Xuan, he managed to reveal he actually did not have bad feeling towards her even when she called in 9 heads demon because she did not really loathe him. And he only loathe those who look down on him because he 's 9 headed demon. And then he asked about voodoo bugs Xiao Liu used on Xuan as he was interested. All in all , the relationship between Xiang Liu and Xiao Liu could use the term "mixture of not friend & not enemy" . While Xiang Liu was using and hurting Xiao Liu, he did not want it up to get her killed , so far, andd Xiao Liu was scared of Xiang Liu, she still did not hate him and like mocking in front of him.
The Blissful Moments Under the Ocean
Since chapter 3, we have already learnt that water (river&stream) makes healing and happy feelings to Xiao Liu. And in here again she was really happy to be in the ocean. But what more surprising is that Xiang Liu was happy and smiled. Did it mean that he was in love with her ? He already knew she's a woman in man's body. If so he still treated her roughly before. Why did he make such a vicious deal with her? We will need to see how their relationship will continue to go.
Overall Review
Plot is getting more complicated. Tushan Jing's fiance is finally introduced. She already had plotted assasinating Xuan allying with Xiang Liu. How is Xiang Liu connected with her?
Xiao Liu was caught in between Xiang Liu and Xuan. One was whom she had tie while trepassing Sheng Nong army and another one was her beloved cousin in her childhood, in her past. Xiao Liu protected her cousin at all cost, even to make a deal with Xiang Liu in trabsfering bug. Even though, she may not be following him back.
Xuan's character is still rational and good manner even though he tortured Xiao Liu for kidnapping A Nian before. We can see he appreciated Xiao Liu for helping him, saving his life two times and Xiao Liu's medical skills. However, this appreciation of could be mixed up with Xiao Liu's possible usefulness to him, such as connection with Tushan Jing.
And then we can see the voodoo bug is taking more role. Because now it ties Xiao Liu to Xiang Liu. Despite using her , hurting her physically and making her his controlling deal to remove voodoo bug from Xuan, he seemed to have developed some deeper feelings for her. And she, despite all the hurting, was happy in the ocean journey with Xiang Liu after they came back from Five Gods Mountain, Gao Xing. And their bugs were recognized as "friend". We know Xiang Liu knew more about the bugs than Xiao Liu. He could definetly see she didn't know. So why did he kept it secret from her, when they were sharing this bugs tie now and he making her promise to do one thing for him, if she break the promise, all that she loves and the happiness would turn bitter. What is his intention at all??? Besides, she felt strange and bad feelings after the walnut melted into splashes of color and half of which which went inside her palm and half into Xiang Liu. Was this only her pessimistic feelings. Or would the bugs become obstacles for them? Especially for Xiao Liu because she only have one life and now is connected to Xiang Liu, who was fighting in war with Xuan Yuan.
With matters between Xiang Liu and Xuan, Wen Xiao Liu still met Tushan Jing on occasions, and need help from him. He was just so happy to see her. She tried her best to stay away from him. Yet she still had to encountered him. Besides, she really did not feel good in him having fiance. If we really notice, there is actually attraction between Xiao Liu and Ye Shi Qi. There were several intimate touching, I will wrap up about their interactions and why I think that after we cover few more chapters. We will need to see how their relationship will continue to grow in upcoming chapters.
Okay..that's it for chapter 7. Let's move to chapter 8.
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Chapter 7 – People Become Far Away and the Road Becomes Long:
Draft * Global overview Part 1 :
Short analysis, considering the nuances of the characters, the symbolism, and the intricate emotional landscapes.
Passage 1: The Celebration and Chess Match
Setting and Celebration:
- The transition from winter to spring symbolizes not just a change in seasons but possibly a metaphorical renewal or transformation in the characters' lives. The birthday celebration becomes a microcosm of life's cyclical nature.
Quote: "The cold Winter left and the warm Spring arrived."
Chess Match Dynamics:
- Xuan's refusal to play chess with Xiao Liu in a traditional manner and his insistence on involving Jing establishes a subtle power dynamic. It hints at a hierarchical structure within their group, reflecting potential control and influence.
*Quote: "Xuan sighed 'Fine, you place the pieces, he calls the moves.'"
- The interaction between Xiao Liu, Jing, and Xuan reveals subtle nuances in their relationships. Xiao Liu's impatience and Xuan's disdain for his chess-playing skills highlight tension, while Jing's willingness to accommodate Xiao Liu suggests a deeper connection between them. The banter and negotiation during the chess match offer insights into power dynamics and the influence that characters hold over one another.
Related passage: "Xuan played a few times with him and vowed never to do it again."(TSJ)
Foreshadowing and Intrigue:
- The appearance of the Fang Feng family carriage introduces an element of mystery. The golden arrow and family emblems symbolize intricate connections, foreshadowing potential conflicts and alliances. The chess match may be a metaphor for the strategic maneuvers within the narrative.
Related Passage "A carriage rumbled past with a window decorated oddly – with a golden arrow embroidered on it."
Emotional Resonance:
- Xuan's frustration, Jing's adaptability, and Xiao Liu's impatience during the chess match showcase not just their skills but also their personalities. Xuan's dissatisfaction despite winning and Jing's smile in defeat reveal deeper layers of their characters.
Related passage: "Xuan won but didn’t feel happy whereas Jing lost and was smiling."
Passage 2: Tu Shan Family Carriage
Symbolism and Personal Connections:
- The carriage, adorned with emblems of the Fang Feng and Tu Shan families, becomes a symbol of complex relationships. The mention of Miss Fang Feng as Jing's future second daughter-in-law adds a personal connection, implying a deeper history and potential conflicts.
Related Passage: "On the corner of the carriage, there was the nine-tailed fox emblem that represented the Tu Shan family." + .... a golden arrow embroidered on it."
Unity and Disunity:
- The banter and negotiations after the chess match reveal both moments of unity and disunity among the characters. Jing and Xiao Liu share good time, while Xuan's disdain introduces discord. These moments foreshadow intricate dynamics in their relationships.
Related Passage: "The three of them left the shop and walked down the street, bickering with each other."
Personal History and Concerns:
- Jing's reaction to the carriage suggests a deeper personal history. His silence and sadness hint at unresolved issues, creating a sense of intrigue. Jing's refusal to immediately return home implies a level of estrangement or discomfort.
Related Passage: "The second Jing saw the carriage, the laughter disappeared from his eyes."
Unity and Estrangement:
- Jing's silence outside the residence implies a sense of estrangement from his own engagement. The contrast between past and present dynamics is palpable, creating an emotional undercurrent that adds depth to his character.
Relevant passage: "They were like strangers."
Passage 4: Xuan's Interest and Xiao Liu's Concern
Political and Strategic Interest:
- Xuan's interest in the Tu Shan family suggests broader political and strategic considerations. The mention of determining whether the Tu Shan clan is a friend or foe hints at larger-scale power dynamics within the narrative.
Quote: "That will determine whether the Tu Shan clan is my friend or foe."
Jealousy and Protective Stance:
- Xiao Liu's reactions, especially his defensive response to Xuan's investigation, suggest a protective stance and potentially underlying jealousy or possessiveness. The complexity of Xiao Liu's emotions adds depth to his character.
Quote: CX: "He listens to you."Xiao Liu laughed “You think playing chess and running his entire family business is the same? He listens to me, because I saved him, but he only listens to what he can listen to.”
Passage 5: Xiao Liu's Emotional State
***Jealousy and Emotional Turmoil***
- Xiao Liu's internal struggle and avoidance of discussions about the bride-to-be hint at jealousy. His self-admonishment and decision to go for a walk indicate emotional turmoil, possibly triggered by the societal admiration for Miss Fang Feng.
Ref. Quote: "Wen Xiao Liu! Don’t be so coddled! Life goes on no matter who leaves!"
Xiao Liu's apparent jealousy and his inner turmoil in Chapter 7 can be analyzed in the context of his complex emotions and the dynamics of his relationship with Tushan Jing/Yeshiqi.
Jealousy and Conflicting Emotions:
- Xiao Liu's jealousy might stem from a mix of conflicting emotions. While he genuinely cares for Tushan Jing/Yeshiqi's happiness, the idea of Jing being engaged or married to someone else may trigger feelings of possessiveness or a sense of loss.
Unresolved Feelings:
- Xiao Liu's precedent declaration that the girl who marries Jing would be happy might be an acknowledgment of Jing's positive qualities. However, Xiao Liu's inability to reconcile this with the current situation suggests unresolved feelings on his part. ( (ep.3 recap)
A. Self-Doubt and Insecurity:
- Xiao Liu's self-admonishment and his shout at himself, "Wen Xiao Liu! Don’t be so coddled! Life goes on no matter who leaves!" indicate a level of self-doubt and insecurity. He may feel inadequate or uncertain about his own place in Jing's life.
Protectiveness and Sensitivity:
- Xiao Liu's avoidance of discussions about the bride-to-be and his decision to go for a walk may reflect a protective instinct. He might be shielding himself from potential emotional pain or discomfort.
Past Declarations and Present Realities:
- Xiao Liu's past declarations about Jing's future spouse being lucky could now be a source of internal conflict. The reality of Jing's engagement challenges Xiao Liu's previous assurances and highlights the complexity of their relationship.
Personal Struggle with Change:
- Xiao Liu's struggle to accept the changes in Jing's life, such as his engagement, could be a representation of his difficulty adapting to evolving dynamics. It may be a broader reflection of his resistance to change and the uncertainties it brings.
In summary, Xiao Liu's jealousy and inner turmoil in Chapter 7 reveal a character grappling with conflicting emotions, self-doubt, and the challenges of accepting changes in relationships.
*****His self-admonishment and walk indicate that future events related to Jing's engagement will have a profound impact on Xiao Liu.
Novel : "Wen Xiao Liu! Don’t be so coddled! Life goes on no matter who leaves!"
(in related ep.11 - Xiao liu by the river, splash her face with water angrily. This is the second she slap herself....she did it already in ep.6! + arriving ep.11/and ch7 by the river, the first thing she does is picking the same red flower she saw in Yeshiqi's hand on their first encounter.
Overall Analysis of this part:
Power Dynamics:
- The chess match symbolizes intricate power dynamics, showcasing how characters interact and assert influence. Xuan's involvement of Jing in the match reflects a larger structure of authority.
Symbols:
- Symbols like the chess pieces, family emblems, and the carriage serve as metaphors for deeper meanings, hinting at alliances, conflicts, and personal histories.
Psychology and Emotions:
- Characters' emotional responses, silent reactions, and inner thoughts provide insights into their psychology. Jealousy, protectiveness, and internal struggles add layers to their personalities.
Foreshadowing and Intrigue:
- Xiao Liu's defensive response and Xuan's insistence on investigating the Tu Shan family create intrigue around the political landscape. Xiao Liu's protectiveness hints at potential secrets or sensitive information related to Jing and the Tu Shan clan.
- Xuan's interest in the Tu Shan family indicates broader political and strategic considerations. The determination of whether the Tu Shan clan is a friend or foe foreshadows potential conflicts on a larger scale, suggesting that political intrigue will play a significant role.
Ref. Quote: "That will determine whether the Tu Shan clan is my friend or foe."
The overall foreshadows potential conflicts on a larger scale, suggesting that political intrigue will play a significant role.
- The passages create a sense of anticipation for future conflicts and developments. The mysterious elements, political considerations, and personal histories foreshadow a rich and complex narrative.
- The combination of emblems on the carriage hints at a complex web of relationships. The nine-tailed fox emblem representing the Tu Shan family and the Fang Feng family emblem create intrigue, leaving readers curious about the connections between these families.
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Further CX-chess game attitude and possible further motives -notes :
C.Xuan's interest in the Tu Shan family is suggested in the passage through his inquiries and considerations regarding Jing's past and the family's influence. However, the nature of his interest is not explicitly detailed. Here are a few points to consider:
Political and Strategic Interest:
- Xuan's awareness of the Tu Shan family's businesses covering a vast wilderness and the potential impact of Jing's role on the Tu Shan clan suggests a political and strategic interest. The family's influence and connections could have broader implications in the narrative.
Quote: "Because the Tu Shan family’s businesses blanket the entire vast wilderness, and he represents the future of the clan and that will determine whether the Tu Shan clan is my friend or foe."
Investigation into Jing's Past:
- Xuan's attempts to investigate Jing's past and the secrecy surrounding Jing's unspoken history indicate a keen interest in understanding the dynamics within the Tu Shan family. Xuan's curiosity may be driven by a desire for information that could potentially benefit him or affect the larger political landscape.
Quote: "I did investigate, but you trained Chuan Zi and Ma Zi well, and they didn’t reveal anything."
Pragmatic Considerations:
- Xuan's pragmatic acknowledgment of the limitations of gratitude and his reliance on connections and background suggest a calculated approach to his interactions with Jing and, by extension, the Tu Shan family. His emphasis on the importance of time in developing connections implies a strategic mindset.
Quote: "But at least I have that, and that takes time to develop connections."
While the passage hints at Xuan's interest, the specific motivations behind his curiosity and potential plans remain ambiguous. Further developments in the story may shed light on Xuan's true intentions and the extent of his involvement with the Tu Shan family.
Part 1 global covering only... draft form
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Ch7 - (continue) PART A:
Xiao Liu walked along the river and sat down on a rock with his mind in a daze. He plucked a flower and pulled off its petals, tossing it in the river. Suddenly a white condor called and before Xiao Liu could even gasp he was wrenched onto the back of the condor by Xiang Liu. Xiao Liu waved with a smile “Long time no see. How’ve you been?”
“If Xuan was dead, I’d be a lot better.” *****he have new ongoing plans with FFYY****
=> Xiao Liu shut up and tightly grabbed Xiang Liu’s arm, afraid that he would get pissed and toss him off. The white condor flew to the same lake they once came to. Before the condor could descend, Xiang Liu suddenly grabbed Xiao Liu and vaulted off.....
and his body sunk into the depths.
Xiang Liu floated in the water staring as he sunk towards the bottom of the lake. Xiao Liu tried to reach out but could grab nothing and his eyes were gradually seeing black. Just as he was about to take his last breath, he felt Xiang Liu embrace him and a pair of cold lips pressed to his and passed air to him....
SAME MOMENT: CX simultaneously feel the shock , so hard - that the sword he holds to protect himself, just slip from his hand...
The scene (ep.11)=> immediatly switch to (35:58) FFYY with the fluffy round ball:
After some time, Xiao Liu finally asked “If you want to kill me, do it faster.”
Xiang Liu pulled Xiao Liu’s arm “Does it hurt?” “He will hurt a lot.” Xiang Liu laughed “This voodoo bug is decent but not good enough.”
Xiao liu: “If it was a life-linked voodoo bug, you wouldn’t even hesitate and would kill me, right?” “Yup, too bad it just shares pain.” Xiang Liu’s voice shared his regret. (Obviously lying as he got all info).
-Xiang Liu asked “Since he’s so precious to you, why not remove the bug?”
-(we know he investigated and knows all concerning the bug/drama-ep.11 as pic follow is even showing that moment in the same journey)-The following part shows Xiao Liu FULL IGNORANCE:
Xiao Liu didn’t answer and thought for a long time. Since he was a demon, and demons and creatures and monsters were all in the same world, perhaps he might know something.
“It’s not that I don’t want to remove the bug, it’s that I can’t. Last time I was injured, you used all sorts of weird medicines on me. The bug had some type of transformation. He asked me to remove the bug and I lied that I’ll do it when he leaves. Recently I’ve been trying all sorts of ways to coax the bug out of him but nothing works.”
Xiang Liu thought about it “If you don’t want to die, then don’t try calling it back. The only solution is to find a way to transfer the bug to another person.” Xiao Liu sincerely said “The only person I want to make miserable is you.”
Xiang Liu softly laughed “Then put the bug inside me.”
PIC Below: The one who places them won't be able to CONTROL the bugs.....
Xiao Liu scoffed “Like you would be so nice.” - “I’ll kill him before he leaves Qing Shui Town, then you won’t have to worry about how to remove the bug.” Xiao Liu felt his legs weren’t shaking anymore so slid down his body and started swimming. Getting some strenght to protect Cang Xuan. “Can killing him bring back the Sheng Nong Kingdom?” “No.” “Did he ever go on the battlefield and killed Sheng Nong soldiers?” “No.” “Do you have a personal blood feud with him?” “No.” “Then why do you still want to kill him?” “My position. Knowing that he’s right under my watch and not killing him, I feel like I’m not doing my part.” “You have some sort of principles?” “To Sheng Nong I do.”
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@Winny
Yes..and since chapter 5, I have a feeling that both WXL and Jing are used advantage between XL side and Xuan side.
Re reading and re watching, made me clearly curious about the PAWNs exemples....
Xiang Liu Drowning Xiao Liu for Advantage on the new Xuan assasination with FFYY -“If Xuan was dead, I’d be a lot better.”
Xiao Liu’s entire body was still aching so he couldn’t move and could only lay on top of him. Xiang Liu pulled Xiao Liu’s arm “Does it hurt?”
“He will hurt a lot.”
Xiang Liu laughed “This voodoo bug is decent but not good enough.”
“If it was a life-linked voodoo bug, you wouldn’t even hesitate and would kill me, right?”
“Yup, too bad it just shares pain.” Xiang Liu’s voice shared his regret.
Xuan laughed at Xiao Liu “Doesn’t matter if you guys are close or not, he listens to you. Have him play with me. I’ve heard of his famous reputation for so long but never had a chance.”
Xiao Liu’s eyes twirled “I want to play, too.” Xuan sighed “Fine, you place the pieces, he calls the moves.”
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XIAO LIU - TUSHAN JING as PAWNS
XL keeping for himself all the gathered intel about the bug.
Xuan pushing Xiao Liu to Tushan Clan .
FFYY secrets implications.
Strategic Use of Relationships in Chapter 7:
Xiao Liu's Influence on Tushan Jing: C.Xuan recognizes the influence Xiao Liu has on Tushan Jing. He might see this as an opportunity to strengthen ties with the Tushan Clan. If Jing is emotionally attached to Xiao Liu, leveraging this connection could be a strategic move.
Xuan's Political Calculations: Xuan's interest in the Tushan Clan suggests a political motive. He could be using the emotional dynamics between Jing and Xiao Liu to forge alliances or gather information. Their relationship becomes a valuable asset in the larger political landscape.
Xiang Liu's Manipulation:
XL's Involvement: Given XL's involvement and manipulation in various events, it's plausible that both Xiao Liu and Jing are unwittingly becoming part of a larger scheme. XL might be using their emotions and relationships to further his own agenda or fulfill a mission.
Leveraging Personal Connections: XL may see the emotional ties between Jing and Xiao Liu as exploitable. By manipulating these relationships, he could create chaos, divert attention, or gain advantages in his dealings with Cang Xuan.
Power Struggles and Alliances:
Caught in the Middle: Xiao Liu and Jing might find themselves caught in the power struggles between Xuan and XL. Their emotional bonds and personal connections make them susceptible to manipulation by these higher-powered entities.
Unintended Consequences: As Xiao Liu and Jing navigate their own feelings and relationships, the consequences of their actions may have ripple effects in the larger narrative. Their personal struggles could inadvertently impact the balance of power and alliances.
Ambiguous Loyalties:
Uncertainty in Allegiances: Both Xiao Liu and Jing might be uncertain about the true allegiances of the powerfull around them. They could be unintentionally contributing to the plans of XL and Xuan without fully understanding the implications.
Emotional Turmoil as a Weapon: XL might be using the emotional turmoil of Xiao Liu and Jing as a weapon against Xuan. By manipulating their feelings, he could indirectly influence Xuan's decisions or distract him from other critical matters.
Long-term Consequences:
Unraveling Events: As the story progresses, Xiao Liu and Jing may gradually realize the extent to which they are being used. This realization could lead to a shift in their actions and motivations, impacting the larger narrative.
Repercussions of Emotional Manipulation: The emotional manipulation orchestrated by XL and Xuan could have long-term repercussions, affecting the relationships between the characters and the trajectory of the overall plot.
Exploring these dynamics will likely require a close examination of character interactions, dialogues, and the unfolding events in the narrative. Keep an eye on how Xiao Liu and Jing's personal journeys intersect with the broader schemes of XL and Xuan.
****Drama cover pics, pointing out to some of the Xiao Liu / Tushan Jing pawn moments in ch7/ep11-12.
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Symbolika1:(continuing)
About Voodoo Bugs
This is from drama where Xiang Liu learn abou
t these lovers bugs. It is not from the novel but drama. He knew more about the bugs than Xiao Liu but he did not let her know about yet accept to share it with her, who knew nothing much. Yet also make her promise to do one thing for him. For me personally it sounds like a bit of cheating.
Winny Aye: I am thinking about this love bugs curse on love less connection that it can lead to unless troubles and that the couple could not live together if there is no love. Even worse the couple could be killed by poisonous bugs. Is the bugs connection blessing or a curse? I hope to uncover more in upcoming chapters.
In the novel at chapter 7, he actually , as she states she don't know more than the infliging pain property, say many more lines on it's fonction: - “The pair of voodoo bugs you have is very rare. If you want to remove it, the only way is to find another person and lure the bug into that person. " It's implied-He makes fun of Xiao Liu not knowing more. But close the discussion to get a promise:
“I can help you lure the bug into me, but you have to promise that in the future you will do one thing for me. If I ask, you will do it.”
Xiao Liu thought about it “Other than killing Xuan.”
“Fine.”
“I also can’t kill Tu Shan Jing.”
“Fine.”
Also the text : ...were like friends who had not seen each other in a long time .
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Xiao Liu’s expression grew dark and he said to Xiang Liu “I have a bad feeling about this. This bug is sooooo strange. It’s not as simple as I thought it was.”
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As you pointed out with screencaps - he goes to get info about the bug just before the assassination of Cang Xuan (double played as we saw with hil and FFYY) and tell her , Xiao Liu, nothing at all. Retaining all gathered info to himself..
"The magic is unpredictable , even if there is no love it 's perhaps possible to function"- (why would the man even explain if it doesnt have some plot intention), and further predict a tragic developpement for a planted bugs that encounter one sided love.
Winny Aye:I hope to uncover more in upcoming chapters.
We will. Yet his motives, by not telling all to Xiao Liu imply : lack of trust,? scheming? protection? Desire to feel what love is ? - Doesnt start well with extracting an open promise - With all that happened in this chapter 7 : Xiaojing s as pawns in others party intentions -as you said , we'll see further implications of it as story unfold.
The screenwriters (TH) - was anyway much clearer on this point in the drama version .
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HAIKU version of the BUG story:
He ask for it.: “Then put the bug inside me.”
She doesnt know what's in stake.:"...creatures and monsters were all in the same world, perhaps he might know something. "
Motives?: we'll see further.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------@Winny: Besides, she felt strange and bad feelings after the walnut melted into splashes of color and half of which which went inside her palm and half into Xiang Liu. Was this only her pessimistic feelings. Or would the bugs become obstacles for them? Especially for Xiao Liu because she only have one life and now is connected to Xiang Liu, who was fighting in war with Xuan Yuan.
@Peng: XL knew better about the bugs..he should have told her. Yet he did not feel the need of it. And yeo she was feeling strange and bad.
(above screen captions of ep.12):
Novel chapter 7 :
Just after the bug is implemented, Tong Hua give us a full grasp on how Xiao Liu experience it:
Xiao Liu’s expression grew dark and he said to Xiang Liu “I have a bad feeling about this. This bug is sooooo strange. It’s not as simple as I thought it was.”
It is a lover bug that has been connected to a person who is not her lover. Hence the bad feeling. Bug is supposed to recognised a lover but it recognised a Friend.
Even than, he dodge from any answering or explanation. Living her with her bad feelings about it.
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@peng-peng @ Wynn Aye - all collected - analysing will take time, will join you in chapter 8 as I cover all our chapter 7 journey <3.
(all draft forms/all to be reviewed)
Symbolika1:I dont even understand why her point of view, that moment has not been covered yet....we will repair that missing and crucial part in our full covering :)
Well I already said her feelings was not. So i dont get what u are meaning . Yes you can cover for it. Because it could happened I might miss something . We dont have to have the exact point. You can write points I missed to see.
@Symbolika1
Just after the bug is implemented, Tong Hua give us a full grasp on how Xiao Liu experience it:
Xiao Liu’s expression grew dark and he said to Xiang Liu “I have a bad feeling about this. This bug is sooooo strange. It’s not as simple as I thought it was.”
It is a lover bug that has been connected to a person who is not her lover. Hence the bad feeling. Bug is supposed to recognised a lover but it recognised a Friend.
Even than, he dodge from any answering or explanation. Living her with her bad feelings about it.
I guess what you mean by me not covering Xiao Liu's pov of recognizing the bug as "friend". I purposely did not put it. What I missed to say is I am only reviewing about the novel, not from the drama part.
Just to clear something off, I did said about bugs being recognized as friends.
In the abstract, it said,
Xiao Liu tightly clasped the walnut to his chest and started chanting, summoning the bug in his own body. After some time, Xiao Liu felt his own heart start to beat wildly, and incredibly he felt another heart beating as well. The two hearts were like friends who had not seen each other in a long time, beating wildly in joy to be together. Xiao Liu reached out his hand and pressed it on Xiang Liu’s chest, and it was indeed the sound of Xiang Liu’s heart.
because it said "the two hearts"..(in Xiao Liu's point of view). In the novel, it's not clear how much XL knew about the bugs, whether they were lover bugs was not revealed yet in this particular chapter. So that's why I was not saying definite certain things yet. The chapter is in mostly suspension vibe, which is why I said I will keep it for later. But it's fine you cover everything both from novel and drama which is great. I mean we could have different vibe in reviewing and analysising :D..
@Symbolika1
As you pointed out with screencaps - he goes to get info about the bug just before the assassination of Cang Xuan (double played as we saw with hil and FFYY) and tell her , Xiao Liu, nothing at all. Retaining all gathered info to himself..
"The magic is unpredictable , even if there is no love it 's perhaps possible to function"- (why would the man even explain if it doesnt have some plot intention), and further predict a tragic developpement for a planted bugs that encounter one sided love.
Winny Aye:I hope to uncover more in upcoming chapters.
We will. Yet his motives, by not telling all to Xiao Liu imply : lack of trust,? scheming? protection? Desire to feel what love is ? - Doesnt start well with extracting an open promise - With all that happened in this chapter 7 : Xiaojing s as pawns in others party intentions -as you said , we'll see further implications of it as story unfold.
The screenwriters (TH) - was anyway much clearer on this point in the drama version .
I like how you include both novel & drama to analyze the scene and this particular plot. (I was only taking on novel part for chapter wrap up) And YES, TH was much clearer on drama version. You are that that sentence of magic is unpreditable and could perhaps able to function without love ...already foretelling nothing is absolute. I completely agree with your take on it.
@peng-peng
Xiao L realised that `Jing his wearing the medicine herb she made for him.. This should have actually made her realised that as a engaged man Jing should not have been wearing it. This simple act by Jing should have made Xiao L realise that things are not rosy between Jing and his fiancee FFYY.
Jing promised Xiao Liu that he will never harm Xuan without asking the Why off such a request from Xioa L. . We see Jing demonstration of his commitment to `Xiao Liu. Xiao Liu on the other hand fail for the 1rst time YSQ/ Jing trust. As someone who has been longing for Jing/ YSQ, she failed to tell him about the action of his fiancee FFYY. She could have share even her suspicions ate least This is rather sad considering what Jing did for her - providing the ice crystals needed to heal her dear gege Xuan.- and all the promises he just made to her. Any good friend would have shared what had transpired with FFYY with Jing, let alone some who claimed long deeply to be with him.
It's good take. Xiao Liu probably should have warned Jing about FFYY. But we understand she did not want to interfare..especially with Jing whom she's trying to cut her longing from as if she did not completely trust him. But yep she regret it later.
We see Xiao L lying to XL about why she wants to remove the bug from Xuan. We learn about how she acquired the bug and that she has no clue about what type of bugs they are and how to remove them. XL is the one informing Xiao Liu that the bugs are rare and different to the other bugs. This implies that XL had done some research on the bug but he is not willing to share all of his findings with Xiao Liu :
'how could she not have told you what the name of this particular voodoo bug was?” ....The pair of voodoo bugs you have is very rare."
XXL even lied about not knowing the requirements the receiver of the bug had to fulfil. and swiftly bark that he does not know. Xiao Liu is not fooled and is aware that XL is lying :
By not providing a direct answer XL is letting Xiao L to draw her own conclusion and take his lack of reply as a confirmation. They them T go and manage to remove the bug from Xuan and transfer it into XL .
XL and WXL could not be so honest with each other. Of course it made sense why she would want to remove bug from Xuan but not telling truth to XL is ...practical act to me( know they are enemies and the way XL treated her) . personally i felt worse about XL not telling her the truth when he accepted to take it (knowing about it more than her) and made her swear to not break the promise and pay back with bitterness is a bit cruel. But then i also did not like how he used her to harm Xuan (while holding somewhat feelings for her already). Reminding me why I could not ship him with XY.
@Symbolika1
Yes what XL did is worse. Xiao l living is totally reasonable as he is after all not her friend even though not her enemy. What pained me is when she is thinking to herself that she was tired to be used to give pain to XC. She gave XL the weapon he needed. This is the 1rst time she regrets . Later on we will see her regretting having provided him with another great weapon.
Winny Aye:The screenwriters (TH) - was anyway much clearer on this point in the drama version .
I like how you include both novel & drama to analyze the scene and this particular plot. (I was only taking on novel part for chapter wrap up) And YES, TH was much clearer on drama version.
Wich is nice for the audience, because the hint in the novel is very subtil :D. Yes TH in the drama version for the bug part made it overall clearer and even allowed to show characters motives by gestuals, secret meetings, face reactions...so that we can more easily grasp what's in stake :).
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