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Me too, i guess we'll probably never see old Porsche again (and its really making me cry, I have ACTUAL tears in my eyes while I'm typing this) but at the same time I don't want him to suddenly go from my most loved character in FANDOM to just another one who ended up being a disappointment. I don't know why... I'm still hoping for him to redeem himself, make him less selfish, or bring out his inner 'selflessness'. Because, in the beginning few episodes, I was in a bad place, and his antics really brought a smile to my face, you could say he was my safe space. So I really don't want to let go now...

I really want to hate Porsche cause what he did with Pete kind of ruined his likeability for me... I couldnt even enjoy the pool scene without feeling conflicted about him, and I still do... while I see where he's coming from, and he wants to find information about his family, his way of selling Pete out was jarring, and sort of out of character, (tbh, I wasn't surprised when he punched Vegas for Pete), but when he went like, 'I brought Pete here, now spill,' I honestly felt punched, cause I didn't expect it from him, even after Big, I felt like maybe they did the mourning shit and funeral in the background so I wasnt really that bothered, but now.... I really don't wanna dislike him, because I really do love him so much, since he's sacrificed so much for his brother, but if he thinks of Pete as his friend, then WHY the hell would he sell him out like that? Granted, maybe he knew Vegas wouldn't pull a dick move with him around, still he saw how scared Pete was, and if anything, according to his usual characterization, he should've been OVER-protective of Pete, but for idk what shit reason, he CHOSE to hand over Pete like that, and I can't get past that. I need him to take a bullet for Pete for all this shit he's putting him through, in the next episode, but he NEEDS the redumption so that we all can forgive him (and so i can have him as my favorite without feeling guilty and conflicted again). Since he cant undo his actions, I'd much rather the writers make him better in the last episode. Any kind of redumption for him to Pete would be fine, but him taking a bullet for Kinn or Chay while the other shit he's pulled gets glossed over wouldn't do much for me.
But if I were to defend him, I'd probably think the best excuse would be that he's just too flawed. If the writers intended to make him flawed, then they should have also made him be able to see where he did wrong. If he's gonna make mistakes, he needs to accept them and feel guilty. But he does neither, which makes him somewhat unlikeable instead of flawed.
That's my long rant, I hope I didn't offend anybody with my opinions. While I wish he could've stayed the loveable character in the beginning, he had to change because living with the mafia would've rubbed off on him one way or another and that shows a little too well.
I miss the old Porsche, the one we had till episode 4.

Mimi, I guess I could say that Im a Porsche apologist, like, as much as I really love him, I do think that it was awfulthe way he sold Pete for information, (not without punching Vegas first) but while it was wrong of him to do so, saying that hes turned into someone who cant see anyone other than Kinn is a bit harsh, boy just went through major trauma ( Pete's was worse, though) and I kinda wish he'd held Vegas at gunpoint 4 information rather than hand over Pete to him, but I think the writers intended to make him that way on purpose, to show that the 'mafia' was rubbing off on him, 'cause he went from being a naive baby we all wanted to hug in the first few episodes to this selfish prick who doesnt give a fuck about anyone else other than his own motive, I'd say its character development (negative) but for some reason, I cant really bring myself to HATE him I wont lie, im just as disappointed by hus actions as you guys are, and Pete honestly doesnt deserve such a friend, but at the moment, I think Porsche.... is just very shaken, not to excuse him for that AWFUL move, but maybe we should wait for him in the next episode to redeem himself to everyone ( I think he will). Maybe im biased, but everytime I see him, since episode 9 especially, hes lost his spark, the sensitivity he had in the first few episodes, and after episode 11, his aura just sort of kept dimming, so I dont understamd why the writers had to go ruin his likeability.... cause him being THAT insensitive goes out of his character... As much as I wish I could defend him, he gives me no reason to, and as much as I wish I could dislike him, I'm not able to do that either, so seeing everyone else (rightfully) expressing dislike for his actions makes me sort of miserable, but I cant fault them for it.
Sorry for this long rant, but I just delt sad to see my favorite character ruining his likeability so badly.

Guys, I kinda made up an imaginary scenario in my head for the next episode, like, what if the shootout happens after Pete escapes from Vegas, and Vegas in his blind fury targets Kinn but Porsche takes the bullet and Pete sees that? I mean- then it'd be really angsty for Pete, 'cause then he'll be torn between his loyalty to the main family, and his love for Vegas, and the worst part would be that Vegas sort of accidentally shot his best friend, so it'd be kind of a betrayal for him to choose Vegas after that.
Just an imaginary thought scenario though.... maybe I should turn it into a fanfiction.

Same for you❤

Thank you❤

Thank you, you have no idea how much you are helping me with your words and kind thoughts❤

Thank you, im really sorry you had to go through that, at EIGHT, people are just senile ,i think and noone is safe... i also send you lots and LOTS of hugs... and i think youre very strong. All those people who have been through this horror, and STILL get back up again... are survivors, theyre strong, and my inspirations, and i hope i can be the same one day

Thank you.... i know its not my fault, my mum keeps telling me that, but it haunts me from time to time- and mum advised me to keep reciting it as a mantra that its not my fault

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Thank you, really... it really feels better with your words

Thank you 🥺🥺🥺

I wasnt really going to comment on anything but Build's words,just made me relive something i have been trying so hard to forget.
It was my cousin- he made a move on me so many times like his hand under clothes and inside my pants, he was older than me, and i was 14 years old with barely any idea what to do but when i resisted, he literally just threw builds words at me, "enjoy this experience and take it as an oppurtunity to learn practically" and i fell into depression, i told my mum- she tried and confronted him, he put the blame on me, ALL of it, and he said i led him on cuz i was so IRRESISTABLE.
It continued for 4 years and just recently i blasted about it infront of him and my mom, and i threatened to tell the whole family. Only then he stopped. He apologized, but still told me that it was me who tempted him. We havent seen each other since and i was just starting to forget- then this shit comes up and makes my anxiety spike again, that it was MY fault- now i cant shake it off, it hurts too much

Please can you dm me the novel too? Ive been looking for it for so long

I'm sorry, but this series just left me a broken and suffocated mess. So I'm here to rant. Let me begin:
I binged the first six episodes last week as a stress relief from my exams, but they only ended up making me feel more stressed than ever, and now I feel exhausted for Seojoon, boy really has a lot of patience to keep taking the brunt of Jiwoo's bullshit every. single. episode.
To be honest, I've never once NOT rooted for the main couple, no matter how fucked up they are, because for me, it always makes sense that they are the main couples of the series, so they MUST end up together. I don't know why, if its just because recent events in my life became eyeopeners for me, or the story itself, but I REALLY can't seem to want Jiwoo and Seojoon's endgame, like at all. In fact, I feel deeply for Seojoon, it's honestly exhausting (like I said earlier) to keep chasing someone again and again, while simultaneously pushing one's own feelings aside.
All I can say is, while I understand Jiwoo's loneliness in the relationship, its not anyone's fault he was feeling like that, but he could just have broken up with Seojoon normally instead of just disappearing on him like that, on his FREAKING BIRTHDAY!
My chest starts squeezing every time I see Seojoon on screen now, it feels like he's slowly breaking down, the way he keeps questioning everything around him, like its all his fault. Even if they get back together, it won't be satisfying in the least. Not after how suffocating it probably feels when Seojoon already tiptoes around Jiwoo now, and it feels toxic for him to do that after they do get back together.
True, Seojoon's not exactly a saint, and he must've been dense to not feel Jiwoo's loneliness even while doing his best to give him all the love he could possibly have, and he does have his own faults, he would honestly not be someone worth rooting for if he was perfect in every sense of the word, and Jiwoo was the mean villain we'd all love to hate. The same can be said for Jiwoo; its okay to be flawed, its okay to make mistakes, and while I do hate him for his way of doing things, I can somewhat relate too, its easier to avoid confrontation and issues, so running away really seems like the best solution at that time, but there was NO need for him to make such cruel statements to Seojoon about being 'fuck buddies', after HE initiated that kiss, not Seojoon, who was honestly trying to move on then. So basically, my confusion here is; WHY would you push someone away continuously, so harshly, and when they DO get the hint, you suddenly go and get their hopes up, only to crush them down in the most brutal and cutting way possible? I really flinched when Jiwoo said those words to Seojun, it felt like he was cutting him up so calmly, so smoothly, so CLEANLY. And that conversation with the ex-
I really have no words.
In fact, I saw some people on twitter defending Jiwoo's statement with his ex, saying that he probably said those things because he KNEW seojoon was listening behind the door or something, but to me, all I can say that if he really said it with that in mind, then he's honestly the worst asshole ever. Now my advise to Seojoon is this: Please, I"M BEGGING you, please leave the damn village, go somewhere else to heal and find someone who can appreciate you for YOU, and who honestly loves you enough to share his feelings with you, who you share feelings with, with whom you don't have to feel so suffocated all the time. You deserve to be happy too, Seojoon, and you deserve to be loved just as much as the other person does. Even if you don't find someone, just heal from this and stop letting it hurt you.
At this point, even if Jiwoo grovels before Seojoon, or some grand revelation comes to light of him making an oh-so-big sacrifice for him, then I'd still hope that Seojoon never takes him back. Sure, he can forgive him after some time, or wish him well with someone else, but just don't take him back. It's hurtful, its exhausting, and its suffocating, being in that kind of relationship where you never know when your partner's going to ghost you suddenly, because his self esteem's low or he's got issues. It's not healthy for either of them to go back to each other, because while they do, in a weird way, balance themselves out, the way I see it, in season 1, it was more of Seojoon's optimism washing over Jiwoo's pessimism, while in season 2 its the other way around. Seojoon may have unintentionally hurt his partner, but it wasn't on purpose. He really did try to be the best for Jiwoo, and yes, he was dense with the loneliness his partner was experiencing, but thats where their communication sucks. I'm sure, if Jiwoo had opened up about his issues, maybe Seojoon could have helped a bit, if not completely resolving the issue. But ghosting, making the most cutting statements DESIGNED to hurt him was not it at all. I was still hoping for them to end up together till ep 5, but the second Jiwoo talked so nonchalantly about their kiss and the prospect of being fuck buddies, all the while Seojoon's face just kept crumpling and breaking, it was just crossing the line. If he didn't want him, then why kiss him when he's clearly trying to move on? If he wants him, why hurt his self esteem so brutally? This isn't love, or a messed up sense of self sacrifice, it's just toying with someone's feelings and tossing them away.
For Jiwoo, the only advise I can give him is this: Solve your damn issues before indulging yourself in a relationship, and don't come crying back to Seojoon. Stay the fuck away from him, or go be happy with your ex, I'm sure she was in your head the whole time, right? So go be happy with her (which you probably won't be, but still).


I'm sorry, that was a pretty big rant, but I really relate to both the characters so much; I've also come out of a similar relationship feeling like everything was my fault, and I've also made mistakes of running away from communication, so I just had to rant. Just to be clear, this is my opinion, and no one has to feel obligated to agree with it, maybe for some people Seojoon may have been worse than Jiwoo, or vice versa. Everyone has different perspective of looking at things, and I can't fault them for it.
Thanks, and have a great day.

hi, please can you dm me the novel too? i've been looking for it for so long

I would if I could... but I can't access it here. That's why I'm asking you guys

I can't download it

I can't download it

Does anyone know where i can download the gifs of kp? I miss mimis porsche gif pfp so im out to do my own