AleksandraSucur

I feel the same... Merry X-mas, btw 🫶

I was also very sorry they didn't have anything concrete. Such a chemistry!
Who cares about the jerk traitor husband, you'll see later, that husband made her killed

Thousand years after, we watch STOTD impatiently awaiting for the next season...
I wonder if the ending scene is hinting the next season will deal with the emperor's weird taste in women 🫤🤦‍♀️

One cannot but question emperor's taste in women... The last one he liked was fat and destroyed the empire...

The entire plot is driven by that insanely restless and brazen Sawa-psycho. If this character was able to accept a defeat, we wouldn't enjoy this drama bc there would be no drama at all, lol.
The production cast an incredible actor for this role, able to portray vast traits of this character - malice, hypocrisy, competitiveness, with visceral need to feel the power, to dominate others and enjoy in other people's pain, endowed with a quick, scheming, twisted mind and sheer brazenness to the point of being ready to commit any kind of crime - taking his colonel Sawa step by step towards insanity and grotesque.
Compliments to the person who created such a character, which is the exact, specular, opposite to HX's calm character making the latter look even cooler and smarter than he actually is. And ofc, compliments to the actor who embodied this villain with such a convincing, piercing energy

Hi, dear Frost_edelweiss, so glad to see you're watching this one, too, (and looking forward for your illuminating researches/findings about the historical authenticity of the events).
Now, just to open a debate... I think, this drama is overally better than WoF. Although WoF had several top quality advantages:
- first-tier actors, combined with
- memorable complex dialogues/monologues, especially those between the two MLs, incredibly well-written and founded on events and (several) characters that really existed in history of Shanghai (evidently well reasearched by the screenwriter-director),
- HQ production (=high amount of money invested in cinematography, props, costumes etc.) which added a lot to its highly educational value...
... all these certainly good reasons for Magnolia (not Golden Rooster) awards nominations.
But it also contained certain unforgivable flaws which ST doesn't have.
1. Ren Jia Lun may not be as good as Wang Yang or Wang Yibo in line delivery of complex long speeches which also require a series of complex microexpressions revealing subtle meanings, but he delievered very well the character he played: a thoughtful, committed, good professional person, disinclined to antagonize anyone or anything. And the rest of the actors mostly did the the same: they've all performed well enough to make their characters believeable.
2. In particular, the villains in ST are more believeable, beside the excellent Haogo's acting, we hear Japanese characters speaking fluent Japanese, the undecisive Portuguese speaking Portuguese, the British speaking British English (despite some problems in dubbing the actor who played the husband of the British lady, but he is a marginal character, so it's a negligible flaw). Foreign languages in WoF were offensive for the ears, not only the German spoken by the Chinese characters was unlistenable, but it wasn't good enough when spoken by (supposedly) German characters. Speaking of which, I remember that the arm merchant was a German Jew, so a totally impossible thing bc of the racial laws already existing for some years in Nazist Germany at the time a and have no idea how the scriptwriter could have done such a faux pas. And there was a problem with the arms he was selling, too, they were developed later on...
3. I don't expect ST will have that tangible drop in value we felt when the WoF passed to the Communist setting. I'm currently at ep 22, so I can't be sure, but the ST's storyline tends to smooth out the (historically) existing sharp antagonisms among the factions and that's what we (the audiences today) actually like. We all like peace and dislike ideological clashes which marked the history. We want to believe a place like ST's Macau, in which all the resistance forces converged despite their internal divisions and flaws, really existed for the "greater good".
I haven't researched the history of Macau of this period, but I like a lot how it is presented in ST: the whole town became a character.

I agree with you, the role in Eternal Brotherhood suited him the best. In EB he also had the best chemistry with all other characters (except the FL, lol)

Oh, I've seen it in dozens of movies. As a Wong Kar-wai's fan, I've seen it In The Mood for Love and 2046, two James Bond's movies were also filmed there and ofc., I've seen Macau in iconic Bruce Lee's Fist of Fury and Dragon, as a kid I've watched and rewatched Bruce Lee's movies hundreds of times 🫶🫶🫶 and in a way, for me, China is that Cantonese speaking China, because the visuals of that specific area were my "first contact" with (and affection for) China.
What I've meant: "I've never seen Macau as a setting in a historical drama". And I certainly can't miss it

highly probable, yup. We'll see if they gonna deepen the motive later, the story already switched to the next case.
It was the twist they were targeting the emperor that was unexpected to me.

I love so much that setting in Macau. The first time I see it in a drama.

Indeed, the cases can be seen as self-standing stories. Maybe that's why my brain associates them with spectacular performances of the Chinese State Circus and the bgm used for different performances. While TVoA... maybe because it's so packed with "metal" reminds me of westerns with a bit of distopian genre and the music used in that kind of movies. Ennio Morricone (sad scenes) + Metallica (violent scenes, Master of Puppets, Fade To Black, Nothing Else Matters...) 😂

I feared it was just me, bc. I am watching two other dramas in this period, one particularly fast paced and higly engaging (Silent Tides) which pumps incredible level of cortisol in my blood and the other less gripping (The Vendetta of An) but packed with bloody twists and killings, maintaining that high level of stress... so it's natural I find this one distensive while still mind-engaging: I think this feeling comes from a gratifying sense of recollection, of reconnection with cases/stories in previous seasons and I love to immerse in its world.

Yinwan's self-righteous personality gets on my nerves... And the English lady is also irritating in her own way (good acting by both actresses btw).

The story is packed with fast paced events, actions... the tension is constantly so high (and stressful) that I forget to breath and the actors are convincing... and with such a convincing villains, do we need good guys (/girls) to be that irritating?

This drama should not be binge-watched, the audiences need some time between the eps to lower the level of cortisol in their blood

I enjoy so much how the storyline connects - refreshing our memory - with details and cases from S3, and S3 was already stuffed with references to S1 and S2. It makes this drama so brain-stimulating and immersive... I'm totally switched off of reality (and stress-relieved) while watching it that I need some time to retake myself after the daily eps end.
Do you have similar sensations?

I usually have ideas about the culprits, but the sudden twist in last two eps regarding the target of this Crimson assassins left me without any clue on who hired them. All leads and tracks till now only confused me, lol

But I enjoy this case, I feared the cases in S4 will be less interesting and I am glad it isn't the case. But now I fear the people who haven't seen previous seasons won't catch the concept and aesthetics we love so much...

except the technique to collect a morning dew, lol

Here's the same... noticed only today, now I'm already watching ep 4, lol

I was just looking for you, wondering if I should tell you it dropped the first case, lol

Moonlit Disorder would fit better as a title for this drama, lol... it was such a silly, messy fun which - totally unexpectedly - I've enjoyed a lot! 😂 Usually, I don't like slapstick comedy but the actor playing a pseudo-antagonist Gu Qianfu brought this genre on another level of hilarious. Witty script, with convoluted plot and a lot of funny twists and turns combined with a convincing performance of all actors made it a good watch despite its many flaws in pacing, editing etc. typical for a low budget drama. But the amount of laugh it gave me greatly outweights its flaws. 8/10