Given a good script and a school setting, New Siwaj can certainly make magic happen (UWMA, P10L, My Only 12%) and SeaKeen, thus far, have achieved only straight A’s in chemistry. We love an enemies to lovers trope done right (Destiny Seeker, anyone?); Jinn flipping J the double bird augurs well. Let’s pray these elements, when forged together, create alchemy. Sadhu.
And, as hard as they tried to train us to recontextualize that old favourite, we still immediately jump to “endowment…
Ooh girl, early BL was the Wild West, literally, where the sound of horses was almost as common as unwanted sexual advances. You can see how far we’ve come when a compact, layered series about competitive math nerds can create “fin” without resorting to anything base or gratuitous; and a racing horse is just a racing horse. 🐎
this was actually really cute ! but the constant horse sound effects were annoying 😭
And, as hard as they tried to train us to recontextualize that old favourite, we still immediately jump to “endowment gag” when we hear it. Half a decade of Pavlovian BL associations are hard to unlearn.
In the spirit of Gaya Sa Pelikula, I hope this show is not tainted by the behaviour of one individual. SeaKeen are killing it in MuTeLuv, and they, and Only Boo!, should be given a chance to receive the recognition they deserve. A number of people, contributed to the greatness of this series, not to mention Sea and boy-wonder Keen, and all the supporting cast and crew (shout out Milk), as well as those who contributed to the fantastic OSTs. The shadow of GeminiFourth loomed over this series (unfair comparisons to MSP; My Love Mix Up’s loud and investor-stealing marketing ramp up; Sea’s not yet Gemini-level acting skills, at least initially). With Ticket to Heaven still a distant pipe dream, and Head 2 Head on the horizon with a renewed and prodigious New Siwaj at the helm, there is a perfect opportunity for SeaKeen to move into the spotlight. สู้ๆ
I'm back here even though I did leave a comment when I finished this several months ago but I really wanted to…
Not so surprising that you like P10L. There is definitely a red thread linking this series back to UWMA. Not only is it directed by a revamped (pun intended) New Siwaj, but the feel and characterizations echo that BL classic (UWMA), minus the supernatural elements. I would even argue that YothaGun are an update on DeanPharm, while the other two couples share echoes of WinTeam. The romances hit just as hard, despite not being bolstered by a reincarnation theme, while the surrounding universe remains light and joyful. Balancing those two elements is New Siwaj’s true gift, when he hits his sweet spot, as he does here.
I love that there is so much disagreement on whether YothaGun or FaifaWine had the best arc. The truth is that everyone wins, as there were at least 2 top tier BLs back loaded into one series. There does seem to be a consensus that the ArcArm arc came in at third place. Force and Book do their best to animate their one-dimensional characters, and they get thrown a lovable assortment of friends, but one can’t help but wonder if their OF/Peaceful-Property-displayed skills would be better utilized elsewhere. At least, once the other arcs roll around, they get to relax, and their characters’ one-dimensional-ness becomes their charm.
Now I wish I didn't delay watching this it's sooo gooood. My favourite story was YothaGun and gosh they have flaming…
Some people were put off by Yotha’s cold exterior and seeming lack of empathy, but Perth’s brilliant micro expressions were telegraphing the compassion charging Yotha’s inner conflicts. Santa was his equal, subtly belying the pathos behind Gun’s “sunshine of this world” persona with grace. An acting masterclass, with director New stepping back up with his UWM”A” game.
these ppl giving this hot garbage a 10/10 rating... pfft 🤣bet you have never watched any shows that really…
Gelboys does do a great job capturing coming of age in latch-key, cosmopolitan, inner city Bangkok. The same care is given to the navigation of Heesu’s socially conservative, suburban setting; worlds removed from the hopeful liberation being offered up in Hongdae or Itaewon. Both series ring true for their milieu; so much so that the fantasy BL elements are mostly implicit. Both are valid. And even if they appear to sit at opposite ends of the queer actualization spectrum, they both stand firmly on the zeitgeist and carry a similar political charge. Maybe there is no way for the creators of “Heesu in Class 2” to shed their Judas-like betrayal of the beloved webtoon. Maybe the MDL rating will never rise above 7.4, and the betrayed will prevail. But somewhere, a suffocating, suburban queer kid is one step closer to self acceptance after seeing themselves reflected in this series. Both the 10/10 ratings and the 7.4 average are political; hopefully, this Pride season we can all meet somewhere in the middle. 🌈
Naaaah .. Guyss I have a question would you kiss someone to know if you have or still have feelings (if they're…
Not ideal, but methinks that the Yotha detractors doth protest too much. Anyone who’s been in a relationship with a traumatized person knows that their healing and emotional integrity do not come in a straight line (despite what the clearly rushed episode 15 and 16 breakthroughs would have you believe). FaifaWine would rarely, if ever, happen in the real world; no doubt, part of their appeal. But Yotha and Gun are both doing a lot of heavy lifting; maybe not the safest route for escapist fiction, but certainly relatable and, ultimately, winning.
Recency bias, but should definitely be in the 8’s. Despite a few fumbles, director New’s best work since UWMA.…
By range, I meant that AouBoom had to play (initially) unlikable characters. Quite a stretch for one of the fandom’s favourite comfort couples. It should serve them well in the ethically ambiguous Only Friends universe.
Timing is this drama’s greatest weakness. Had it aired after wrapping up filming 3-4 years ago (2021-2022),…
Wu Bi be giving palpable horn dog energy and Su Yu be eating it up… Ok, you have me intrigued. I definitely hope to see this beloved Manhwa faithfully remade. And… I would still highly recommend this Korean adaptation to anybody unfamiliar with the original “Heesu” or unbothered by a sharp pivot from the source material.
Timing is this drama’s greatest weakness. Had it aired after wrapping up filming 3-4 years ago (2021-2022),…
I think I blushed more watching “Stay With Me” than during many a spicy BL NC scene! But, truth be told, “Heesu in Class 2” hews much closer to my own high school experience. Including the Manwha’s flashpoint second gay couple would have taken me right out, as, like Heesu, I was convinced I was alone in my queerness. I also slow-walked an unrequited crush on my tennis-player-best-friend; thus the visceral anti-raquet-sport sentiment in the fandom is lost on me. And Ji Yu, despite her straight-privileged flaws, was arguably my favourite character. I resonate with the hurt behind all the political machinations, but I get the sense that any “straightwashing” was likely based on someone’s personal experience, and added a layer of realism to the mix.
Trigger Warning: I thought this was a fantastic series… Without the weight of familiarity with the original/adapted source material, I can say this is one of the best Korean BLs I have seen. I am often amazed at how creatives are able to adapt their material to the constraints of their conservative societies (shout out “Stay With Me”), and through their ingenuity and yes, “conservatism”, the minds behind “Heesu in Class 2” have managed to resource enough top tier talent to create an instant classic. The heated political debates that the adaptation has engendered are understandable, and do reflect the depths of pain, in the queer experience, upon which “Heesu” is touching, but do not diminish the brilliance and resonance of the story being told. Balancing deftly on the K-Zeitgeist and gently pointing the way forward to a better future, “Heesu in Class 2” has threaded the needle …. with class, too. 10/10
I'm sick of director New's series. Except for "Until We Meet Again" all of his shows are mediocre or bad.I don't…
The YothaGun and FaifaWine arcs both felt fresh to me. YothaGun gave echoes of DeanPharm, but all the right ones, and their traumas, though contained in time and space, were equally resonant; while complimentary green flags FaifaWine felt like a brand new animal. Faifa was the show’s true heartbeat, and the connecting tissue between the two arcs (Sawadee krub, bro!). You could make your case against the ArcArm arc; New Siwaj once again gave the weakest story to the top billed couple, possibly in the hopes that they could keep eyeballs on the screen until the more innovative stories had a chance to unfold.
Recency bias, but should definitely be in the 8’s. Despite a few fumbles, director New’s best work since UWMA. Junior’s star turn, Santa’s breakthrough , Perth’s reemergence, and Mark’s breakout all in the same show. AouBoom showing their range and setting the stage for what should be their star turn in OFDO. When a romcom does it right, why shouldn’t it be rated as high as some of the more “sophisticated” series’s ?
Part of the mixed early reactions, at least from international fans, stems from the fact that Mark has been on such an upward trajectory for the past few years, and we’ve all highly anticipated his leading man debut. Established ships can weather the odd Cooking Crush or My Love Mix Up, but to start off there could be more of a challenge. Hopefully this series will find its legs, and the debate will die down.
i like the vibes! ♥ and i love the actors, mark and baby ohm always do their job right hehe so i see a comfort…
Are you not Perfect 10 main-Lining? If you have any lingering Boss And A Babe trauma, start on Ep. 9. PerthSanta reincarnate classic, red-thread OhmFluke, and the JuniorMark arc is just brilliant. And, I might add, ForceBook make a perfectly lovely side couple.😉
Sadhu.
There does seem to be a consensus that the ArcArm arc came in at third place. Force and Book do their best to animate their one-dimensional characters, and they get thrown a lovable assortment of friends, but one can’t help but wonder if their OF/Peaceful-Property-displayed skills would be better utilized elsewhere. At least, once the other arcs roll around, they get to relax, and their characters’ one-dimensional-ness becomes their charm.
Both series ring true for their milieu; so much so that the fantasy BL elements are mostly implicit.
Both are valid. And even if they appear to sit at opposite ends of the queer actualization spectrum, they both stand firmly on the zeitgeist and carry a similar political charge.
Maybe there is no way for the creators of “Heesu in Class 2” to shed their Judas-like betrayal of the beloved webtoon. Maybe the MDL rating will never rise above 7.4, and the betrayed will prevail. But somewhere, a suffocating, suburban queer kid is one step closer to self acceptance after seeing themselves reflected in this series. Both the 10/10 ratings and the 7.4 average are political; hopefully, this Pride season we can all meet somewhere in the middle. 🌈
FaifaWine would rarely, if ever, happen in the real world; no doubt, part of their appeal. But Yotha and Gun are both doing a lot of heavy lifting; maybe not the safest route for escapist fiction, but certainly relatable and, ultimately, winning.
Ok, you have me intrigued. I definitely hope to see this beloved Manhwa faithfully remade. And… I would still highly recommend this Korean adaptation to anybody unfamiliar with the original “Heesu” or unbothered by a sharp pivot from the source material.
But, truth be told, “Heesu in Class 2” hews much closer to my own high school experience. Including the Manwha’s flashpoint second gay couple would have taken me right out, as, like Heesu, I was convinced I was alone in my queerness. I also slow-walked an unrequited crush on my tennis-player-best-friend; thus the visceral anti-raquet-sport sentiment in the fandom is lost on me. And Ji Yu, despite her straight-privileged flaws, was arguably my favourite character. I resonate with the hurt behind all the political machinations, but I get the sense that any “straightwashing” was likely based on someone’s personal experience, and added a layer of realism to the mix.
Without the weight of familiarity with the original/adapted source material, I can say this is one of the best Korean BLs I have seen. I am often amazed at how creatives are able to adapt their material to the constraints of their conservative societies (shout out “Stay With Me”), and through their ingenuity and yes, “conservatism”, the minds behind “Heesu in Class 2” have managed to resource enough top tier talent to create an instant classic. The heated political debates that the adaptation has engendered are understandable, and do reflect the depths of pain, in the queer experience, upon which “Heesu” is touching, but do not diminish the brilliance and resonance of the story being told. Balancing deftly on the K-Zeitgeist and gently pointing the way forward to a better future, “Heesu in Class 2” has threaded the needle …. with class, too. 10/10
You could make your case against the ArcArm arc; New Siwaj once again gave the weakest story to the top billed couple, possibly in the hopes that they could keep eyeballs on the screen until the more innovative stories had a chance to unfold.