On Weibo now, ZLH is getting even more hate. I thought it couldn't get worse, but it did. I honestly feel so bad for him. No one deserves this level of ridiculous hate.
What happened: A bunch of men came up with a hate name: "foundation general" because he looked too pretty here, and apparently it hurts the "image" of what a general "should be like"
Fans dismissed it as some low-self-esteem egoistical men who cannot stand that women don't want to look at their ugly asses over someone like ZLH. I really really thought it couldn't get worse than this. But it did.
An official account of the army or military or smth, posted about it, saying that "recent historical drama has "generals" that are "too soft, too pretty, use foundation", they cannot hold the "social responsibility of cultivating masculinity", and that it "hurts historical accuracy". Then the biggest newspaper, People's Daily newspaper reposted it. They didn't mention POJ specifically, but we all know who they're referring to.
Sigh. To that. I am disappointed and sad but not surprised. Of all dramas, they used POJ as a stepping stone to "open fire" on the entertainment industry. If I daresay, it's a bunch of old men, who have power, and are using this as an excuse to shit on women and their opinions.
Because why is it suddenly a problem for male generals to be pretty. Why is it a problem for a character to be considered more "feminine"? Why is being pretty only considered feminine? And why is being feminine considered a bad thing? Who even gets to decide what is "appropriate femineity or masculinity"? Does being masculine means you need to look and act like a caveman all the time?
Why is it suddenly a problem, when no one ever said ANYTHING about LOTS of female characters who are also generals/fight well, for example game characters that have huge chests and wear impossibly short mini skirts and also put on makeup, that have nothing to do with fighting. Why is it that this, a norm that benefits the male gaze, none of them said anything about it. But when a male general is "pretty", it suddenly hurts their ego and it is "wrong" and "historically inaccurate".
In the first place POJ didn't even claim to be a historically accurate drama. It is a script that is written from an online novel, for god's sake. And why do they put out this notice right before POJ is about to end? Probably because it got too popular. This world hates women too much. And their using POJ and ZLH as an excuse to preach about "appropriate masculinity", when the underlying meaning is to shit on "femineity".
ZLH fans are trying to defend him. But what can we do, really, when even the country's officials are saying such ridiculous things.
So basically it was not censorship but the production or channel edited out the bed scene in episode 38 because…
it's a vicious cycle😡😡 Hire traffic actors/actresses > shameless company puts their own less known actors into show > shameless company negotiates for more scenes for own actors and deletes traffic actors scenes > fans of traffic actors get mad and curses less known actors > new fans of less known actors curse back> fanwars > shameless companies get the most out of it, money
Heaven is blind, and the world has turned upside down. Where is the rightful justice that rewards good and punishes evil? Today, I will clear my father’s name. #ZhuYu# *gif of CY sounding the gong*
Finally, I am seeing Mother again. Not the fluttering hem of her skirt hung above, not the corner of her sleeve I cannot grasp despite all my strength.
She’s right here, sitting before me, and her warmth feels so real. I can hold her hand, and she wipes away my tears. The scent of osmanthus flowers that once haunted my nightmares now brings me peace.
Mother, can I move on now? Can I finally, have a happy life...
#ZhuYu# *gif of XZ's mother wiping away his tears*
@tianwens user. Why did u put ur comments in spoiler tags. I'm going to put it at the top for everyone to see :) 10 hours ago I posted a comment on tea about the production companies talking about mistreatment of main CP. https://mydramalist.com/760409-zhu-yu#comment-25568604
Then you replied:
"It's funny because the production company is somehow related tian xiwei's agency. So you don't need to worry about her lol."
And I was annoyed. Because you clearly don't know enough about anything. And I said: "There's more than one company. And I definitely know better than u do about how shitty her company treats her. If they really treated her well she wouldn't not have an individual studio after so many years. She wouldn't have so many hate hashtags about her during this whole airing period. She wouldn't have so little good trending hashtags despite a few great moments of her in this drama. They would've attempted to protect her against so much hate and sued people spreading malicious rumours after so many years. They would've gotten her better opportunities. So don't tell me about your baseless guess like u know everything :)"
And then u conveniently skipped over most things I said, and replied with this:
"The fact that she still has her screentime secured and even taking other characters highlight showing how at least her company protect her work as an actress. And those supporting roles who consumed lot of screentimes are also from her company. If there is one side who is eligible to complain, it is Zhang Linghe's fans."
What r u even saying. AND I REPLIED: ??? so her company should only protect her work as an actress? and they are not even doing it well??? the supporting actors getting more screentime is somehow her problem????? are you hearing urself????
Who r u to dictate that only zlh fans should complain? who r u to put blame on txw because of that shitty company who doesn't protect her well? the way you even say "her company", she doesn't own the company???? She's just one of the many employees there?? Earns the most for them but they don't treat her well??? PROTECTING HER CAREER IS LITERALLY HER COMPANY'S ONE JOB, AND THEY ARE NOT DOING IT WELL. Her character here is BUTCHERED. You can argue that XZ is more butchered, but does that mean that's somehow her fault????
So pissed I'm actually laughing😂 so txw should stop taking new gigs and get her screentime unsecured??? is that what you want for her fans to be "eligible" to complain?? Is ZLH not taking new gigs and his screentime is unsecured, so you can complain??? HUH??? AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE CP??? and if we go back to the start, do you even know about the amount of hate she got from crazy zlh fans for this project???
It's funny because the production company is somehow related tian xiwei's agency. So you don't need to worry about…
??? so her company should only protect her work as an actress? and they didn't even do it well??? the supporting actors getting more screentime is somehow her problem????? are you hearing urself????
It's funny because the production company is somehow related tian xiwei's agency. So you don't need to worry about…
there's more than one company. And I definitely know better than u do about how shitty her company treats her. If they really treated her well she wouldn't not have an individual studio after so many years. She wouldn't have so many hate hashtags about her during this whole airing period. She wouldn't have so little good trending hashtags despite a few great moments of her in this drama. They would've attempted to protect her against so much hate and sued people spreading malicious rumours after so many years. They would've gotten her better opportunities. So don't tell me about your baseless guess like u know everything :)
And it's been so many years of pretty male lead dramas, why choose POJ to start the conversation now? Because it's so popular...
What happened:
A bunch of men came up with a hate name: "foundation general" because he looked too pretty here, and apparently it hurts the "image" of what a general "should be like"
Fans dismissed it as some low-self-esteem egoistical men who cannot stand that women don't want to look at their ugly asses over someone like ZLH. I really really thought it couldn't get worse than this. But it did.
An official account of the army or military or smth, posted about it, saying that "recent historical drama has "generals" that are "too soft, too pretty, use foundation", they cannot hold the "social responsibility of cultivating masculinity", and that it "hurts historical accuracy". Then the biggest newspaper, People's Daily newspaper reposted it. They didn't mention POJ specifically, but we all know who they're referring to.
Sigh.
To that. I am disappointed and sad but not surprised. Of all dramas, they used POJ as a stepping stone to "open fire" on the entertainment industry. If I daresay, it's a bunch of old men, who have power, and are using this as an excuse to shit on women and their opinions.
Because why is it suddenly a problem for male generals to be pretty. Why is it a problem for a character to be considered more "feminine"? Why is being pretty only considered feminine? And why is being feminine considered a bad thing? Who even gets to decide what is "appropriate femineity or masculinity"? Does being masculine means you need to look and act like a caveman all the time?
Why is it suddenly a problem, when no one ever said ANYTHING about LOTS of female characters who are also generals/fight well, for example game characters that have huge chests and wear impossibly short mini skirts and also put on makeup, that have nothing to do with fighting. Why is it that this, a norm that benefits the male gaze, none of them said anything about it. But when a male general is "pretty", it suddenly hurts their ego and it is "wrong" and "historically inaccurate".
In the first place POJ didn't even claim to be a historically accurate drama. It is a script that is written from an online novel, for god's sake. And why do they put out this notice right before POJ is about to end? Probably because it got too popular. This world hates women too much. And their using POJ and ZLH as an excuse to preach about "appropriate masculinity", when the underlying meaning is to shit on "femineity".
ZLH fans are trying to defend him. But what can we do, really, when even the country's officials are saying such ridiculous things.
I know, you are, Fan Chang Yu.
#ZhuYu#
*Who am I?*
Hire traffic actors/actresses > shameless company puts their own less known actors into show > shameless company negotiates for more scenes for own actors and deletes traffic actors scenes > fans of traffic actors get mad and curses less known actors > new fans of less known actors curse back> fanwars > shameless companies get the most out of it, money
Today, I will clear my father’s name. #ZhuYu#
*gif of CY sounding the gong*
(LET'S GO CY!!🔥🔥)
*ep.38*
She’s right here, sitting before me, and her warmth feels so real. I can hold her hand, and she wipes away my tears. The scent of osmanthus flowers that once haunted my nightmares now brings me peace.
Mother, can I move on now? Can I finally, have a happy life...
#ZhuYu#
*gif of XZ's mother wiping away his tears*
(Yes you can XZ...😭😭😭😭😭😭)
*ep.38*
Then you replied:
"It's funny because the production company is somehow related tian xiwei's agency. So you don't need to worry about her lol."
And I was annoyed. Because you clearly don't know enough about anything. And I said:
"There's more than one company. And I definitely know better than u do about how shitty her company treats her. If they really treated her well she wouldn't not have an individual studio after so many years. She wouldn't have so many hate hashtags about her during this whole airing period. She wouldn't have so little good trending hashtags despite a few great moments of her in this drama. They would've attempted to protect her against so much hate and sued people spreading malicious rumours after so many years. They would've gotten her better opportunities. So don't tell me about your baseless guess like u know everything :)"
And then u conveniently skipped over most things I said, and replied with this:
"The fact that she still has her screentime secured and even taking other characters highlight showing how at least her company protect her work as an actress. And those supporting roles who consumed lot of screentimes are also from her company. If there is one side who is eligible to complain, it is Zhang Linghe's fans."
What r u even saying.
AND I REPLIED: ??? so her company should only protect her work as an actress? and they are not even doing it well??? the supporting actors getting more screentime is somehow her problem????? are you hearing urself????
Who r u to dictate that only zlh fans should complain? who r u to put blame on txw because of that shitty company who doesn't protect her well? the way you even say "her company", she doesn't own the company???? She's just one of the many employees there?? Earns the most for them but they don't treat her well??? PROTECTING HER CAREER IS LITERALLY HER COMPANY'S ONE JOB, AND THEY ARE NOT DOING IT WELL. Her character here is BUTCHERED. You can argue that XZ is more butchered, but does that mean that's somehow her fault????
So pissed I'm actually laughing😂 so txw should stop taking new gigs and get her screentime unsecured??? is that what you want for her fans to be "eligible" to complain?? Is ZLH not taking new gigs and his screentime is unsecured, so you can complain??? HUH??? AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE CP??? and if we go back to the start, do you even know about the amount of hate she got from crazy zlh fans for this project???