Dear 5-March-2026-created account whose profile is still completely empty today, which episodes have you finished…
The fact that you took what I said and turned it into “A-Shui needs to end up with Tang Lici” already shows a clear misunderstanding of my point. My post never argued for a romance between them.
What I actually said was that AS’s story should have ended with her death. Given the setup in the drama, her dying was narratively consistent. The problem is that the story resolves it off screen, which weakens the conclusion of her arc.
As for the ending in Episode 40, I still stand by my point. The drama establishes that AS has an incurable heart disease and is only kept alive by the celestial fragment placed in her body. As Shui Duo Po stated, she needs to take care of herself because if that energy disappears, it would be fatal.
I saw someone argue that the fragment is actually what caused her condition. I disagree because that contradicts SDP’s statement. The illness itself does not disappear simply because the timeline changes. Even in the new timeline, the disease should still exist.
If the counter-argument is that TLC becomes all-powerful and fixes it in the new timeline, that raises another issue: he never even knew she had heart disease in the original timeline. And if he truly is that all-powerful and all-knowing, then he could theoretically do anything. Why not simply bring himself back to life in the new timeline as well?
You can see how this quickly leads to endless “what if” scenarios and logical inconsistencies.
So the issue was never about romance or AS ending up with TLC. The issue is that the drama introduced a fatal condition that logically should still apply, yet the story never addresses it.
As for my account being new, that is a strange thing to focus on. People can create accounts at any time to join a discussion. It has nothing to do with whether the argument itself makes sense. Instead of speculating about accounts, it would be better to actually address the points being raised.
Dear 5-March-2026-created account whose profile is still completely empty today, which episodes have you finished…
Comparing the novel to the drama is already a bad-faith argument because it creates a strawman. My analysis is based only on what the drama itself shows, as I stated: “But this is purely based on what can be interpreted from the drama itself.” If you want to treat the novel as the source of truth, then most of the events in the drama would not even exist. Using the novel to dismiss a drama-based interpretation does not really address the point being discussed.
I also do not care whether the author is a big fan of the show, whether LYT would play AS, or about the Buddhist themes of the show. What do those things have to do with my points about a character in the drama when I am using only the drama itself as the source?
Ultimately, it is still an interpretation of the material. There are clear discrepancies that I pointed out, and even after rewatching the show, they were never answered. Of course, you can argue that the new timeline is perfect and nothing is wrong, but that is still your interpretation.
I agree with you that AS’s story was poorly written. However, I feel the need to defend her a bit, because there is a lot of hate directed at AS as a character.
First, I want to say that I 100% agree that AS should have died; the problem is that the execution was poorly done.
But AS actually plays an important role in the story that many people miss. I had to rewatch multiple parts of the series to piece it together. These clues come from the drama itself. There are multiple flashbacks about AS and FZ, as well as FZ and TLC, scattered throughout the series, and they are not shown in chronological order.
I want to point out that when TLC wanted to save FZ, he asked him to practice the Rebirth Scroll. FZ refused multiple times. In the Episode 22 flashback, he finally agrees to do so and says that over the past few days he has been practicing and has discovered that there is no evil in the Rebirth Scroll. Then he says they should hurry before Liu Yan and Fu Zhu return. Of course, we know what happens when they touch it, and it backfires and kills FZ.
FZ’s change of heart about practicing the scroll and wanting to live is most likely because he has finally reunited with AS. In the flashback with AS and FZ, FZ tells AS that he finally has no regrets and will meet her at Zhoudi Tower in one month. If he is not around, TLC or LY will let her in. This shows that FZ already knew he was dying. Meeting AS again was what motivated him to want to live.
Thus, this becomes one of the biggest plot points between TLC and LY. If AS had never met FZ again, there is a chance that FZ would never have agreed to practice the Rebirth Scroll.
I agree with you that having her death happen off-screen was a bad choice.
Can you imagine if AS had actually sacrificed herself on screen to save TLC, and TLC knew that removing the fragment would kill her? The implication would be that TLC now knows that not only did FZ die because of him, but also that the person FZ cared about most in the world, his sister, died for him as well. That would have been far more impactful. It would also give more weight to AS's last advice to TLC about when it's the end, it's better to let go and forget about the past.
In that way, it would also be very poetic, because AS once told TLC that he could save the world, and she would save him.
I just do not like the amount of hate AS receives as a character, because she is one of the few people in the show who selflessly sacrifices herself for someone else, especially for someone she still believed had killed her brother.
the show was visually stunning. and every time Tang Lici showed up, the fit was gorgeous. I must say, Luo Yunxi…
It's open to interpretation, but most likely yes. Xue Xian Zi is a mysterious character, and we do not know his true origin. From what we do know, he is very old, as he himself claims to be over 300 years old. He was also connected to Shui Duo Po, the princess who once met Ye Mo. Because of this, his origins are most likely celestial.
However, things become ambiguous because the celestial realm never ascended in this timeline. If that is the case, there would have been no need to create the Holy Son, meaning TLC would never truly exist as we know it.
At the same time, the show carries strong Buddhist and Daoist themes. Because of that, it could suggest that the fox we saw represents TLC in a spiritual sense. In other words, it may embody the spirit or essence of TLC, even if it is not literally the same person.
It raises a deeper question: what truly defines a person? Are our experiences and environment the ones that shape who we are, or is there something more spiritual that forms our identity?
About Ashui's story, and something people might have missed.
I know the story is not centered on romance and does not focus on it. I also know that the novel definitely does not. But this is purely based on what can be interpreted from the drama itself. The scriptwriters most likely tried to build up some form of “romance” between TLC and AS. I want to point out that they might have overlooked something that ultimately dooms AS, no matter what happens.
They clearly invented a lot of things and did not fully realize what they were doing with AS. The core of AS’s story can be summed up as her desire for revenge against TLC, whom she believed killed FZ. She then experiences internal conflict after regaining her memory: she chooses to help TLC but ultimately decides to leave him. A lot of us are left with that idea in mind.
Maybe it was intentional, because early on, we learn that AS has an incurable heart disease and has been kept alive by GMD’s power. TLC does not know about this and never learns the truth. We learn from the note she leaves for TLC that she placed the power GMD used to keep her alive into the last pill. This confirms that AS will 100% die from the heart disease, and TLC will never learn about it.
Perhaps that was meant to be her form of selfless sacrifice, since she knew she was going to die. The reason she wrote everything else in the letter was likely because she knew that if Tang Lici discovered the truth, he would come to save her. Even if it was not romantic, Tang Lici would never allow Fang Zhou’s only remaining family member to die if he could save her.
Sadly, Tang Lici never learns the truth. After reading the letter, he says that A Shei should go wherever there is no Tang Lici. In his mind, he is the reason she cannot stay because of everything that happened between them in the past, which adds even more tragedy to A Shei’s story.
The reason I do not believe A Shei left simply because she could not face Tang Lici over the past is the advice she gives him: that, at the end of the road, it is better to let go of the past. If she truly left because she could not face him, that line would make little sense. Instead, it reads more like a final piece of advice, especially since she already knew she would soon die from her heart disease once the celestial fragment was no longer inside her.
AS’s story should have ended with her death. Given the setup in the drama, her dying was narratively consistent. The problem is that the story resolves it off screen, which weakens the conclusion of her arc. ( If you don't believe AS died, I implore you to rewatch the specific scene I mention below. If there are people unsatisfied with just me saying she dies, then replace that with leaving.)
Can you imagine if AS had actually sacrificed herself on screen to save TLC, and TLC knew that removing the fragment would kill her? The implication would be that TLC now knows that not only did FZ die because of him, but also that the person FZ cared about most in the world, his sister, died for him as well. That would have been far more impactful. It would also give more weight to AS's last advice to TLC about when it's the end, it's better to let go and forget about the past.
And be consistent with what happens after episode 35, as more and more people leave him.
As for the ending in Episode 40, I still stand by my point. The drama establishes that AS has an incurable heart disease and is only kept alive by the celestial fragment placed in her body. As Shui Duo Po stated, she needs to take care of herself because if that energy disappears, it would be fatal.
I saw someone argue that the fragment is actually what caused her condition. I disagree because that contradicts SDP’s statement. The illness itself does not disappear simply because the timeline changes. Even in the new timeline, the disease should still exist.
If the counter-argument is that TLC becomes all-powerful and fixes it in the new timeline, that raises another issue: he never even knew she had heart disease in the original timeline. And if he truly is that all-powerful and all-knowing, then he could theoretically do anything. Why not simply bring himself back to life in the new timeline as well? (Just to be safe, these are example im giving to showcase the what-ifs and logical inconsistencies, and have nothing to do with the TLC character.)
I truly believe this is something the writers accidentally overlooked, which, unironically, made AS's fate even more tragic, and that most viewers probably overlooked as well.
This reflects what AS told TLC in episode 19: "he can save the world, and she can save him." Which she did while being brainwashed and after the fact, at the cost of her life.
I wonder how many people caught these subtle details.
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What I actually said was that AS’s story should have ended with her death. Given the setup in the drama, her dying was narratively consistent. The problem is that the story resolves it off screen, which weakens the conclusion of her arc.
As for the ending in Episode 40, I still stand by my point. The drama establishes that AS has an incurable heart disease and is only kept alive by the celestial fragment placed in her body. As Shui Duo Po stated, she needs to take care of herself because if that energy disappears, it would be fatal.
I saw someone argue that the fragment is actually what caused her condition. I disagree because that contradicts SDP’s statement. The illness itself does not disappear simply because the timeline changes. Even in the new timeline, the disease should still exist.
If the counter-argument is that TLC becomes all-powerful and fixes it in the new timeline, that raises another issue: he never even knew she had heart disease in the original timeline. And if he truly is that all-powerful and all-knowing, then he could theoretically do anything. Why not simply bring himself back to life in the new timeline as well?
You can see how this quickly leads to endless “what if” scenarios and logical inconsistencies.
So the issue was never about romance or AS ending up with TLC. The issue is that the drama introduced a fatal condition that logically should still apply, yet the story never addresses it.
As for my account being new, that is a strange thing to focus on. People can create accounts at any time to join a discussion. It has nothing to do with whether the argument itself makes sense. Instead of speculating about accounts, it would be better to actually address the points being raised.
I also do not care whether the author is a big fan of the show, whether LYT would play AS, or about the Buddhist themes of the show. What do those things have to do with my points about a character in the drama when I am using only the drama itself as the source?
Ultimately, it is still an interpretation of the material. There are clear discrepancies that I pointed out, and even after rewatching the show, they were never answered. Of course, you can argue that the new timeline is perfect and nothing is wrong, but that is still your interpretation.
First, I want to say that I 100% agree that AS should have died; the problem is that the execution was poorly done.
But AS actually plays an important role in the story that many people miss. I had to rewatch multiple parts of the series to piece it together. These clues come from the drama itself. There are multiple flashbacks about AS and FZ, as well as FZ and TLC, scattered throughout the series, and they are not shown in chronological order.
I want to point out that when TLC wanted to save FZ, he asked him to practice the Rebirth Scroll. FZ refused multiple times. In the Episode 22 flashback, he finally agrees to do so and says that over the past few days he has been practicing and has discovered that there is no evil in the Rebirth Scroll. Then he says they should hurry before Liu Yan and Fu Zhu return. Of course, we know what happens when they touch it, and it backfires and kills FZ.
FZ’s change of heart about practicing the scroll and wanting to live is most likely because he has finally reunited with AS. In the flashback with AS and FZ, FZ tells AS that he finally has no regrets and will meet her at Zhoudi Tower in one month. If he is not around, TLC or LY will let her in. This shows that FZ already knew he was dying. Meeting AS again was what motivated him to want to live.
Thus, this becomes one of the biggest plot points between TLC and LY. If AS had never met FZ again, there is a chance that FZ would never have agreed to practice the Rebirth Scroll.
I agree with you that having her death happen off-screen was a bad choice.
Can you imagine if AS had actually sacrificed herself on screen to save TLC, and TLC knew that removing the fragment would kill her? The implication would be that TLC now knows that not only did FZ die because of him, but also that the person FZ cared about most in the world, his sister, died for him as well. That would have been far more impactful. It would also give more weight to AS's last advice to TLC about when it's the end, it's better to let go and forget about the past.
In that way, it would also be very poetic, because AS once told TLC that he could save the world, and she would save him.
I just do not like the amount of hate AS receives as a character, because she is one of the few people in the show who selflessly sacrifices herself for someone else, especially for someone she still believed had killed her brother.
However, things become ambiguous because the celestial realm never ascended in this timeline. If that is the case, there would have been no need to create the Holy Son, meaning TLC would never truly exist as we know it.
At the same time, the show carries strong Buddhist and Daoist themes. Because of that, it could suggest that the fox we saw represents TLC in a spiritual sense. In other words, it may embody the spirit or essence of TLC, even if it is not literally the same person.
It raises a deeper question: what truly defines a person? Are our experiences and environment the ones that shape who we are, or is there something more spiritual that forms our identity?
All of this makes the interpretation open-ended,
I know the story is not centered on romance and does not focus on it. I also know that the novel definitely does not. But this is purely based on what can be interpreted from the drama itself. The scriptwriters most likely tried to build up some form of “romance” between TLC and AS. I want to point out that they might have overlooked something that ultimately dooms AS, no matter what happens.
They clearly invented a lot of things and did not fully realize what they were doing with AS. The core of AS’s story can be summed up as her desire for revenge against TLC, whom she believed killed FZ. She then experiences internal conflict after regaining her memory: she chooses to help TLC but ultimately decides to leave him. A lot of us are left with that idea in mind.
Maybe it was intentional, because early on, we learn that AS has an incurable heart disease and has been kept alive by GMD’s power. TLC does not know about this and never learns the truth. We learn from the note she leaves for TLC that she placed the power GMD used to keep her alive into the last pill. This confirms that AS will 100% die from the heart disease, and TLC will never learn about it.
Perhaps that was meant to be her form of selfless sacrifice, since she knew she was going to die. The reason she wrote everything else in the letter was likely because she knew that if Tang Lici discovered the truth, he would come to save her. Even if it was not romantic, Tang Lici would never allow Fang Zhou’s only remaining family member to die if he could save her.
Sadly, Tang Lici never learns the truth. After reading the letter, he says that A Shei should go wherever there is no Tang Lici. In his mind, he is the reason she cannot stay because of everything that happened between them in the past, which adds even more tragedy to A Shei’s story.
The reason I do not believe A Shei left simply because she could not face Tang Lici over the past is the advice she gives him: that, at the end of the road, it is better to let go of the past. If she truly left because she could not face him, that line would make little sense. Instead, it reads more like a final piece of advice, especially since she already knew she would soon die from her heart disease once the celestial fragment was no longer inside her.
AS’s story should have ended with her death. Given the setup in the drama, her dying was narratively consistent. The problem is that the story resolves it off screen, which weakens the conclusion of her arc. ( If you don't believe AS died, I implore you to rewatch the specific scene I mention below. If there are people unsatisfied with just me saying she dies, then replace that with leaving.)
Can you imagine if AS had actually sacrificed herself on screen to save TLC, and TLC knew that removing the fragment would kill her? The implication would be that TLC now knows that not only did FZ die because of him, but also that the person FZ cared about most in the world, his sister, died for him as well. That would have been far more impactful. It would also give more weight to AS's last advice to TLC about when it's the end, it's better to let go and forget about the past.
And be consistent with what happens after episode 35, as more and more people leave him.
As for the ending in Episode 40, I still stand by my point. The drama establishes that AS has an incurable heart disease and is only kept alive by the celestial fragment placed in her body. As Shui Duo Po stated, she needs to take care of herself because if that energy disappears, it would be fatal.
I saw someone argue that the fragment is actually what caused her condition. I disagree because that contradicts SDP’s statement. The illness itself does not disappear simply because the timeline changes. Even in the new timeline, the disease should still exist.
If the counter-argument is that TLC becomes all-powerful and fixes it in the new timeline, that raises another issue: he never even knew she had heart disease in the original timeline. And if he truly is that all-powerful and all-knowing, then he could theoretically do anything. Why not simply bring himself back to life in the new timeline as well? (Just to be safe, these are example im giving to showcase the what-ifs and logical inconsistencies, and have nothing to do with the TLC character.)
I truly believe this is something the writers accidentally overlooked, which, unironically, made AS's fate even more tragic, and that most viewers probably overlooked as well.
This reflects what AS told TLC in episode 19: "he can save the world, and she can save him." Which she did while being brainwashed and after the fact, at the cost of her life.
I wonder how many people caught these subtle details.