Dr Ghost

It's known as ¨TRUST¨ something mature people of their age has between them !

Lol, grow up and learn to take a loss (accept you are wrong) and don´t argue about things you don´t understand (you were talking the loudest tales). Funny thing is I wasn´t even talking to you and you decided to wade in and started talking mad shit. Unfortunately, I didn´t knew about the leak and was under the assumption they have dropped all episodes in some sort of Express package (I was watching on Netflix before), but needless to say they will break the novel and skip a lot of details to cramp up things in last 10 episodes. Which honestly looks like the work of Chinese censors, but last things are ¨good and bad at same time¨.
Things look polished on surface, but if you are paying attention to the plot, things are choppy with ¨PLOT TRENCHES (not holes) and we have rushed ending with director jumping form scenes to scenes with zero context and whole court just accepted new Emperor without even knowing who he is and villains just killed themselves, which doesn´t makes any sense. So you are wrong

You are spitting facts here but it's still memorable for me because I was in a long drama slump for like 7-9 months. I tried to watch a lot of things, but nothing was catching my attention. Then this drama managed to rope me in, and I have finally finished something after a longtime.
I don´t think a lot of people will recognize me here because old users have left but I used to be pretty active user here.

So who won?

Thanks brother when you have seen enough C-dramas you can predict this shit quiet easily. But that being said, they still did better than I was expecting it. I don't think it was possible to cover the whole novel in 40 episodes but it's still 8.5-9 drama in my opinion.

You can say that hospital have finally decided to extra staff and we can finally return to normal routine. That being said, I tried to watch dramas but they just weren´t good enough to motivate someone to log back on and watch stuff in free time.
This one is good so far and I am happy ZLH and Tian Xi wei have decided to do something worthwhile to shatter their image/reputation of Eye candy.

Okaish I guess I just happy something finally caught my attention after 8 months.

Hi I didn´t know you were watching this too !

I take my comment back, either FL is too innocent or he just played the perfect victim and woo her back by appealing to her emotional-protective side.....dude is master manipulator. Now he got his grandmaster to back him up too !

Let's just not discuss plot holes because XZ is supposed to be super powerful general and the only thing worthwhile he has done so far is yank FL from battlefield.

Yep, the funniest part for me was General Wu (ML assistant). He got hit just onetime and call it quits. I mean I get it dude was crazy, but it was really funny to see him, just sit there like a spectator and watch FL struggle with her life......it was like a child, who has just call his mom to defend him 😂😂😂😂😂.

Now after defeating the enemy general, FL will use her skills/hands to properly service ML face and body.

Yep, and I won´t be surprised if she leaves him. Dude not only lied but also yanked her from battlefield and forcefully install her on horse.

With his own weapon😂😂😂😂.

Yep but again.....he is Legendary Marquis his presence alone is equal to 5 trebuchet 😂😂😂😂😂.

Lol it usually never happens because army chain of command is very flexible with built in reduncies; there is always 3 backups ready in any case. If commander dies, his assistant commander will immediately take over, and if he dies unit commander or captain will take over and if he dies high ranking officer will take over. Everybody including common foot soldiers know this rule......but the way ML army evaporated 30,000 troops even 18th century muskets are not going to cut it due to their long reload.
ML army was armed with Ak47´s and were simply mowing people down with full auto fire......they will show us guns in next episode. I like General Wu, he got hit onetime by enemy general and call it quits. He understood nigga is crazy and turned into spectator, while FL was struggling with her life.

I am glad Chinese battle scenes have evolved, tho it's still not accurate, like in real life mass of soldiers fighting never happened. The armies were extremely disciplined, and they would always fight in formation with polearms not swords, and we have numerous paintings of ancient armies of every culture fighting in formations to support this argument.
But it was still ¨far better¨ as compared to other shows, armour mechanics finally worked here like when FL tried to attack his Plate armour with her knife, it bounced off and subsequently bended. She then modified her attack plan and went after his exposed neck, but when that failed. She used proper weapon ¨his Blunt Polearm¨ to attack. Which caved the armour in......its very realistic and that´s why Polearms were weapon of choice of ancient armies because unlike swords (which are primarily slashing weapons), they can thrust and were strong enough to penetrate leather and some plate armour. It's one the reason you have seen ancient knight and Cataphracts armed with Polearms/spears because it can punch through armour. Cavalry and armies armed with swords as primary weapon is entertainment industry creation....actual armies used polearms and proper formations.
Furthermore, I like how the enemy used trebuchet with fireballs to attack ML camp, although the real cotton balls didn´t explode like shown in the drama but at least they have shown the weapon in use. Also, the use of Shock cavalry against poorly organized soldiers was also on point, but again formations were wrong. ML defending army was supposed to be anti-cavalry spear-wall formation with their long spears back in ground and pointy end forward to brace and absorb impact of charge. Enemy Calvary was supposed to be in wedge formation to present strong point of impact and expand the hole as they went in.
¨But still far better than old dramas¨
Lol in real life ML was done for and he had lost the battle for sure because enemy had artillery (Trebuchet) and they will simply sit back and pound ML position day and night and burn the whole camp to ground but of course ML will win here. The funny thing ML displayed zero tactical brilliance like digging proper trenches, use of caltrops and other common measures like archers on the wall. But he still won, while enemy was using better techniques and still lost with 30,000 troops.

Lol and I am saying their ¨Trauma¨ is not same because although both suffered from mental trauma, Qi Min also bared extreme physical trauma, which according to medical and biological science can definitely alter someone's thinking process and mind.
You can´t compare the suffering of disabled person with PTSD to simple PTSD, it's like saying suffering of veteran with amputated leg is comparable to suffering of simple vet with PTSD. In either case it was nice talking to someone, who actually presented his point and talked respectfully.
I don´t think we will agree on it but thanks for the convo !

So you went long way around to raise my first point again,
They are both orphans..... that's it, apart from that nature of their trauma and life choices is completely different.


"Qi Min" is not righteous by any stretch of imagination. In first half of drama he bought 200,000 tons of grain from war strucken area...... to aid the spread of famine and mass starvation. After that he massacred entire village and then use that pain to fuel resentment among starving farmers..... leading to attack on city and death of hundreds of poor people. He is genocidal maniac who planned the whole shambang and then used his dumb brother as punching bag.
So Nope both characters can't be compared.... although male lead brother and Qi Min can be compared to each other..... albeit Su demon is a better commander and tactician than ML step brother.

I don't think Su demon was like mad dog this time....he did everything right. Like proper use of scouts to explore the area and spies to gather information about enemy army size and supplies, not only that he also kidnapped enemy general daughter to use emotional blackmail.
ML on the other hand did nothing special, he drowned half of his army and innocent workers (they didn't about impending death and did it willingly) to gain upper hand and even than, he won thanks to plot armor. I have seen a lot of political dramas and played a lot of RTS games....he used zero strategy and only won thanks to plot armour and stupid mechanics.

For example, I forgot the name of C-drama but it was based on life of Sima Yan and Zhang lige in three kingdoms period. Both characters showed actual strategic brilliance and ML lost many rounds to enemy general there, simply because he was better tactician.