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Replying to GothGirl22 Dec 27, 2025
Lol I just realized that too! All he talks about with Ing is Koh and how much of a jerk he is, but never once…
Exactly. And noticed that Jira uses a long paper when he draws Koh? But for Pheem, he did it vertically. It might be nothing, but I think it's because there's more meaning to Koh's painting then Pheem's
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Replying to GothGirl22 Dec 27, 2025
Exactly. he's taking his time with that, but he was easily able to finish Koh's drawing in no time. The difference…
Definitely! It's a bit obvious that Jira definitely likes Koh. And I think Pheem kinda just wants him in bed, but maybe he's starting to like him. I don't know. We'll see what happens
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Replying to Future_Dreamer Dec 25, 2025
And Koh tends to be asleep whenever Jira draws him. Everything's at peace including his thoughts. He doesn't have…
That is exactly right. And I think at one point, Pheem will see the drawings that Jira did of Koh and realize that it's not the same. Which is the scene in the trailer' Can you draw me like you do Koh?' And he will try too, but Jira probably won't be able too. Pheem will probably ask 'Why can you draw Koh, but not me?' Man, I'm so curious about how this will go!
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Replying to GothGirl22 Dec 25, 2025
Lol I just realized that too! All he talks about with Ing is Koh and how much of a jerk he is, but never once…
You said it. I do think Jira thinks highly and fondly of Pheem, but he isn't sexually attracted to him. If you saw in the preview, him and Koh are going to kiss and it looked like he will be into that way more.
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Replying to GothGirl22 Dec 25, 2025
They did? Which part? Because, I only watched episode 4 of My Stubborn. Im going to catch up soon
Ahh okay. I'll have to go back and continue watching.
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Replying to Patty cake Dec 25, 2025
Jira cant even finish 2 sketches of Pheem on regular size paper ,yet easily finished those 2 huge sketches of…
Exactly. he's taking his time with that, but he was easily able to finish Koh's drawing in no time. The difference between them is huge. And that it seems like Kira has more heart painting Koh then he does Pheem
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Replying to Rook Dec 25, 2025
Omg they used the My Stubborn nc song 😂
They did? Which part? Because, I only watched episode 4 of My Stubborn. Im going to catch up soon
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Replying to Future_Dreamer Dec 24, 2025
And Koh tends to be asleep whenever Jira draws him. Everything's at peace including his thoughts. He doesn't have…
Exactly! They both look at peace or relaxed. Like it's natural for them. And I was right, Jira has become Koh's sleeping pill. Because now he can't sleep without him. And the drawing of Koh has more meaning than Pheem's. He couldn't even finish with Pheem. Like it was awkward, or didn't know what to do. Only just drawing what's in front of him, and not what's in his heart. With Koh, it comes easy and natural
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Replying to GothGirl22 Dec 24, 2025
4 days late I know, but you're totally right! And I believe he does think Jira will be his angel because Jira…
Exactly! And in this episode, you can just see Jira isn't into it. Not like with Koh. Granted I do think he does like Pheem, but not as much as he does Koh. He doesn't really realize it yet. And the difference between the drawing Koh and Pheem is completely huge
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Replying to GothGirl22 Dec 24, 2025
Lol I just realized that too! All he talks about with Ing is Koh and how much of a jerk he is, but never once…
Exactly! He didn't even finish with Pheem. He looked bored with him. With Koh, he drew him so easily without hesitation
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On Burnout Syndrome Dec 24, 2025
Damn. The difference with Koh and Pheem. For me, it seems like Jira only is with Pheem because he feels like he should. But, he couldn't even finish his drawing, while he easily drew Koh even when he was away. It seemed like Jira was bored or something with Pheem, but while he does get annoyed at Koh, he easily drew him and relaxed. As Jira said when he draws him, Koh is just a normal person and not anyone. The difference is huge. I do like both, but I hope everything ends happily between everyone
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Replying to Patty cake Dec 24, 2025
I don’t know maybe jira is the red flag?
I think all of them are red flags. Koh is definitely because of how he is, Jira because he's playing both of them, and Pheem maybe. For now he hasn't done anything too extreme, but maybe he will
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Replying to GothGirl22 Dec 23, 2025
4 days late I know, but you're totally right! And I believe he does think Jira will be his angel because Jira…
Exactly! And noticed he didn't get aroused by Pheem? Or if he did, he wasn't as embarrassed or anything because he isn't that into Pheem as he thinks he is. If he was, he wouldn't have left Pheem to go to Koh and he would've drawn him like he does Koh and not just by memory.
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Replying to GothGirl22 Dec 23, 2025
Lol I just realized that too! All he talks about with Ing is Koh and how much of a jerk he is, but never once…
Especially when he sees Jira drawing Koh. And he only sees Koh when drawing, and he draws Pheem by 'memory' which isn't as intimate as it is with Koh
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Replying to Future_Dreamer Dec 23, 2025
Angel 😇 The drawing of Jira's angel feels like an image of protection projected outward: Jira, unconsciously…
4 days late I know, but you're totally right! And I believe he does think Jira will be his angel because Jira is the only one that can make him sleep naturally without any pills. Koh needs Jira. Almost like he can't sleep without him. If Jira really hated Koh so much, he wouldn't be doing nice things for him. But he is. He stayed with him until he fell asleep, and did the same on the phone. When he thought Koh was bothering him in episode 3, he still went to him because he remembered that the pills Koh took was making him sick. So without realizing it, Jira has/is falling for Koh. It was even said that bad boys are Jira's type
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Replying to FoufouNouch Dec 23, 2025
That ep 4 was🔥okay let's talk because we need to. First im starting to hate Pheem. I thought he's a green flag…
I didn't notice that! But after seeing your comment, it makes sense! I get Mawin being pissed off, but he could've at least thrown water or soda or something! And that didn't help him at all. It was live streaming, so any job opportunities is probably ruined for him now. And you're right. Koh does seem to care a lot about Pheem, and that he said he wasn't going to attend the event. But Pheem practically was like forcing him. And after seeing the preview, it did seem like Pheem was upset that Mawin threw it at Jira. If it was Koh I think he would've been upset, but not too upset.
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Replying to GothGirl22 Dec 23, 2025
Lol I just realized that too! All he talks about with Ing is Koh and how much of a jerk he is, but never once…
That's true. I think right now, Pheem thinks that Jira hates Koh. What he doesn't know is that Jira has slowly developed feelings for Koh
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Replying to GothGirl22 Dec 22, 2025
Lol I just realized that too! All he talks about with Ing is Koh and how much of a jerk he is, but never once…
I'm curious as to whether Pheem genuinely likes Jira, or just wants to get him in bed
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Replying to GothGirl22 Dec 21, 2025
Lol I just realized that too! All he talks about with Ing is Koh and how much of a jerk he is, but never once…
Yeah exactly. But, I guess we'll see what happens
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Replying to GothGirl22 Dec 20, 2025
Lol I just realized that too! All he talks about with Ing is Koh and how much of a jerk he is, but never once…
Lol. Honestly I feel the same sometimes. I feel like he only wants to sleep with Jira, but now he might actually start liking him
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