Letβs not forget that this is a show premised on time travel. Episode 7 is a prime example of the butterfly…
This! We are yet to see what problem Kawi and Pisaeng will run into when they do accept their feelings because it's not going to be easy. We still have to resolve Pisaeng's mom issues. But this is how time travel show works. Doing things by the list in the past won't guarantee a good future. And this show is showing exactly that π€·ββοΈ
Since more time passes, I start to think differently about this series. Well, something was off with my anyway…
There are actually multiple reasons given here by fans in twitter and here on why things turned out the way it did. But it seems like you are seeing things from a completely different perspective. I thought EP7 did a great job of showcasing how bigger changes made in the past had bigger effects. Kawi even if a star now is an alcoholic (they were already showing Kawi drinking frequently in past), Pear and Kawi dating made Pear unhappy (because of Kawi's chase for fame and his unresolved feelings for Pi), after breaking up with Kawi, Pear made a mistake with Knot but now she is marrying that asshole and has no job (her rich family doesn't guarantee her a job plus she is pregnant, preganant women working works differently in Thailand), it has also been explained that Pisaeng loving Kawi for so long is not romantic or a fairytale thing, Pisaeng has low self worth issues too, he is depressed and lonely, the only person who makes him feel a bit alive is Kawi so he holds on to him for dear life for his own sanity too.
Things between Kawi Pisaeng turned out like because Pisaeng didn't let Kawi speak his mind on the rooftop. Kawi already said then "it won't turn out good for you and for me" and that's exactly what happened. People change. No stays the same for 10/12 years. Pisaeng's mental health got worse to the point where he had to isolate himself. I just think failing to see that he is struggling too and dismissing that chilling in a van is wrong.
If you are not entertained watching flawed characters make mistakes and face the consequences of it then I don't see how that is an issue of the show but rather your personal opinion. But as you said, you can always drop it if you don't like it!
I think Kawi keeps giving him hope and he keeps coming back. They both can't let go of each other but also are…
The phone number thing happened before Pisaeng left so that was a year before Pear's wedding though (that is when Pisaeng decided to move on). I believe Kawi got worse when he signed with the big company . In the short scene after the episode, Pisaeng gave him the pick on the 8th anniversary of his confession and that was also before the big career move. So up until that point they couldn't just let go of each other but slowly things changed. Also, Kawi is an alcoholic in that timeline which probably also messed with his memory. Max told Kawi not to seek out Pisaeng, he has hurt him enough already. Before leaving, Pear gave Pisaeng that look as if she already knew something was up. One of the theory is Kawi probably drunk kissed him multiple times but they just brushed it later as Kawi being drunk. Which would explain the fallout scene in EP8 they will have after the last kiss.
I believe the last ep was a proof of how all the characters are well written as they have the realistic futures…
I think Kawi keeps giving him hope and he keeps coming back. They both can't let go of each other but also are not together. They got too comfortable with just being friends but they don't realise that they are hurting themselves and others around them.
For me pear really can't win, kawi literally took away her happy ending and then continue to not even use it for…
I do think Pear will get her happy ending. There is another scene shown in BMF stories where she is in another wedding dress. Also Kawi will be definitely go back in time and not date Pear knowing how it ruins everything. That would be the best for all 3. Even though Pear might be a bit hurt at first. At least she will have a chance to find herself and someone else. Hopefully not Knot but who knows!
Well, Pear and Kawi broke up a year before the wedding so the child cannot be his...
Loool because I saw someone else on twitter say that and for a moment I was like π― but then realised the timing wouldn't be right then. Yea if that was the case then oofff, Kawii....π
Honestly, no wonder he left everyone behind and went MIA for 1 year. Boy is actually trying to move on but I guess…
Yea he did but also Kawi has a role to play here for him waiting! As Max said, he has hurt Pisaeng enough and should just let him go. Feels like Kawi also can't let go of Pisaeng.
Imagine waiting for 8 years for someone. 8 years is long long time...
Honestly, no wonder he left everyone behind and went MIA for 1 year. Boy is actually trying to move on but I guess he kept coming back because as the other user said, Kawi kept giving him false hope. So when Pear and Kawi broke up, he finally decided to isolate. And I think this will be beginning of EP8. All the work he has done in 1 year went to waste the moment Kawi and him kissed again in that moment of weakness and Pisaeng is mad at himself and Kawi too.
This is kind of off topic but I'm so mad after reading some comments on Youtube.Pear made a mistake with Not,…
No I agree with you. Pear is not a saint but she is not evil. I do think how she abandaoned Kwan even after knowing what Knot did to them was not nice. But I also understand her. Seems like she was under pressure to settle too and while it would've been ideal to take an alternative route, we still need to understand Thailand is not open to pre-marital pregnancies and Pear being from a prominent reputable family made things worse for her. I don't think she is evil at all. This is exactly what Aye said in the interview, Pear is not some goody two shoes people think. But obviously she is not evil.
True! The drama is exactly how it's supposed to be as a whole. This is why I love this show because everyone falls…
Yea. Feels like he wants attention. He is them typical HS school bullies who think it makes them look cool, bullying people, looking down on women and giving a hard time to people who are different than they are. But probably have a whole can of worms hidden somewhere π€£π€£
Appreciation post for people who are actually interested in masterful storytelling, in understanding characters…
True! The drama is exactly how it's supposed to be as a whole. This is why I love this show because everyone falls in a grey area, except Knot. Everyone has their reasons for doing things and even if we might not agree with it we still try to understand as audience. This is one series where I am actually rooting for everyone too!
I saw your last comment as Pisaeng loving one guy for 8 years despite rejection is considered romantic and that's…
This! Pisaeng is flawed. Him waiting pining for someone for so long is his inability to move on. He is hurting but he still keeps coming back. And then when he finally isolates himself for a year to heal from this and is starting to smile more, people are accusing him of what? Maybe his way of moving on is not just getting into relationship immediately with someone else but trying to heal himself first. I don't know why that is an issue. People have different way of coping. People are actually just taking these characters at face value and not trying to understand them π€·ββοΈ
I saw your last comment as Pisaeng loving one guy for 8 years despite rejection is considered romantic and that's…
But the thing is, just because you won't cope with a situation like that doesn't mean others can't. I thought it was obvious that Pisaeng bottles his emotions up so while it may seem he is smiling and chilling, he just trying to heal from the hurt. I just think it's important to see a character from diffent POVs and not just our own. And yes, in that moment he was weak and kissed back Kawi but we don't know yet the reaction after. People are being a bit too harsh on these characters because they don't understand their actions. It's the same judging people without living their life. We are not same people, so not everyone's choices makes sense to us but it's a bit too harsh for them to be called pathetic and having no self-respect for that.
Yes people said they need a Pisaeng in their life because of his personality, not because he waited 8 years for someone. I have also seen on YT, twitter and other soc. channels people saying Pisaeng must be in pain but cannot express it.
Again, seeing from one perspective. Pisaeng felt different at 15 but because of his mom he was probably denying his sexuality. He only understood his sexuality in EP5. Again, some people are bit too harsh on their choices just because they think they won't be making these choices.
I love the thought-provoking storytelling, but people praising Pisaeng is a bit worrisome. He longs for a guy…
I saw your last comment as Pisaeng loving one guy for 8 years despite rejection is considered romantic and that's worrisome for you but tbh no one thinks it's romantic. People feel bad for Pisaeng and pities him. He is stuck in that unrequited love phase which is not romantic at all. It is painful for him. But he is lonely, somewhat depressed about this and just cannot simply move on! He doesn't have good friends so cannot open up either. Believe it or not, it happens more than you think.
From Max's reaction it's obvious Kawi keeps giving Pisaeng hope and ends up hurting him. So he finally went away. There are already layers to Pisaeng's character. We initially thought he was a super popular, handsome, confident guy but turns out he has no real friends, lonely, repressing his sexuality since 15, family issues and some what of an escapist too. Pisaeng is not okay. As he said, everyone is sick in some way, some more than others.
Kawi and Pear's relationship is not just affected by Pisaeng but mostly Kawi. Kawi turned into an alcoholic, chasing fame, refused to marry Pear because he wanted to do better in his career and also subconsciously in love with Pisaeng. He keeps Pisaeng around in his life because he just can't let go. Pear finally had enough.
In whole I think people are failing to see the story here. These timelines are supposed to be a mess. So Kawi keeps going back to fix things. And at this point it is obvious Kawi has feelings for Pisaeng but in future they got into a comfortable place where they both know it but Kawi won't outright admit it. They both keep running away from it. If Kawi goes back and doesn't date Pear, at least she won't waste years of her life on Kawi and maybe can do something better with her life.
And also, this was said here before but Pisaeng and Pear married for their family too. Pisaeng was not out, Pear liked him, everyone expected them to be together so they did. Again, happens more often than you think...
Things between Kawi Pisaeng turned out like because Pisaeng didn't let Kawi speak his mind on the rooftop. Kawi already said then "it won't turn out good for you and for me" and that's exactly what happened. People change. No stays the same for 10/12 years. Pisaeng's mental health got worse to the point where he had to isolate himself. I just think failing to see that he is struggling too and dismissing that chilling in a van is wrong.
If you are not entertained watching flawed characters make mistakes and face the consequences of it then I don't see how that is an issue of the show but rather your personal opinion. But as you said, you can always drop it if you don't like it!
Max told Kawi not to seek out Pisaeng, he has hurt him enough already. Before leaving, Pear gave Pisaeng that look as if she already knew something was up. One of the theory is Kawi probably drunk kissed him multiple times but they just brushed it later as Kawi being drunk. Which would explain the fallout scene in EP8 they will have after the last kiss.
Yes people said they need a Pisaeng in their life because of his personality, not because he waited 8 years for someone. I have also seen on YT, twitter and other soc. channels people saying Pisaeng must be in pain but cannot express it.
Again, seeing from one perspective. Pisaeng felt different at 15 but because of his mom he was probably denying his sexuality. He only understood his sexuality in EP5. Again, some people are bit too harsh on their choices just because they think they won't be making these choices.
From Max's reaction it's obvious Kawi keeps giving Pisaeng hope and ends up hurting him. So he finally went away. There are already layers to Pisaeng's character. We initially thought he was a super popular, handsome, confident guy but turns out he has no real friends, lonely, repressing his sexuality since 15, family issues and some what of an escapist too. Pisaeng is not okay. As he said, everyone is sick in some way, some more than others.
Kawi and Pear's relationship is not just affected by Pisaeng but mostly Kawi. Kawi turned into an alcoholic, chasing fame, refused to marry Pear because he wanted to do better in his career and also subconsciously in love with Pisaeng. He keeps Pisaeng around in his life because he just can't let go. Pear finally had enough.
In whole I think people are failing to see the story here. These timelines are supposed to be a mess. So Kawi keeps going back to fix things. And at this point it is obvious Kawi has feelings for Pisaeng but in future they got into a comfortable place where they both know it but Kawi won't outright admit it. They both keep running away from it. If Kawi goes back and doesn't date Pear, at least she won't waste years of her life on Kawi and maybe can do something better with her life.
And also, this was said here before but Pisaeng and Pear married for their family too. Pisaeng was not out, Pear liked him, everyone expected them to be together so they did. Again, happens more often than you think...