If only BL dramas aren’t banned in China. A girl can dream. 😄
They def did...everyone did lol...I saw during promotion there's always minor readings where they get kinda pushed together while the cast makes cheering noises and stuff lol.
The scene of Su Muyu and Changhe waking up together and then buckling on their belts is so unnecessarily suggestive...like stahhhp😂😂😂wtf director...that's crazy
But realistically....this is a male centric drama....not romance....its centered around one person....she was…
Yes...of can be very jarring when you don't know...but if you look at the poster...promotions...even youku's pages...it all has Gong Jun's name there...there was never any doubt that he would be the sole lead.😅😅
Its the same in female centric drama...that's why there's a lot of fighting over such things in Chinese social media. Male actors actually reach a point of fane and fanbase that they will only ever starr in such dramas where they are the sole focus ....like Luo Yunxi's current drama, Cheng Yi's drama, Xiao Zhan, Yang Yang.....that's how it usually goes.
Watched till episode 12, I am so disappointed with peng xiao ran screen time so far. It's even less screen time…
But realistically....this is a male centric drama....not romance....its centered around one person....she was never going to be a prominent figure here.
Like in Go to the mountains and seas.....Gu LiNazha is the fl...but she has very few scenes....it was mostly about the male lead.
That's usually the case in male centered dramas especially wuxia.....there can be a female lead....but she won't really appear much. That's why fans usually fight about these things
I usually despise the whole 'seductive foxy sexy' act......its usually so cringe to me...but Mu Yumo is actually not annoying when she does it....It actually suits her
This is insane. So Gong Jun works hard, gets his spot at the top.. now he has to ensure that all the people who…
Precisely.
The only thing more pathetic than your critique is your retreat into condescension. You offer "advice on wording" because you cannot engage with the argument.
You dismiss a point as "philosophical" because you lack the depth to comprehend it.😂😂😂(makes sense cause that moronic comment that caused all this was a blaring signal)
You are a small critic with a smaller mind, reducing every challenge to "madness" because you are incapable of a real defense. This was never about the actor. It was about exposing the petty, envious core of your "impartial" judgment.
And you have done that beautifully( for you) . Now, by all means, run along. Your work here is done.
And thanks...my day has BEEN carrying on.....this has just been some minor toilet convo...no biggie.
This is insane. So Gong Jun works hard, gets his spot at the top.. now he has to ensure that all the people who…
The staggering lack of selfawareness it takes to call anyone else "frustrated" while you're the one having a full-blown meltdown because someone had the audacity to dissect your precious "critique." 🤣🤣🤣🤣You're not "clocking" shit.....you're being cornered by logic, and your only escape is to pretend this is about fandom.
You keep bleating "mad fan!" like a broken mantra, because it's the only card you have left. It's a pathetic attempt to dismiss any challenge to your poorly constructed arguments.
Let's be perfectly clear: I'm not mad you criticized him. I am contemptuous of the lazy, moralizing, and intellectually dishonest framework you used to do it. There's a difference, but I wouldn't expect someone of your caliber to grasp it.
You "gave up" because you realized you had no ground to stand on. Your "clarification" was a waste of time because you had nothing of substance to clarify.....you were just trying to backpedal from the nasty implications of your own words.
And the grand, hilarious finale of your little performance is this: "You know it like I know it." 😫😫😫😫😫 No, I don't know that. Because I'm not you, projecting my own bitterness onto a stranger.
I'm not the one seething because an actor I've never met succeeded through a risk I didn't take. This isn't about a "free world" or a "show I like." This is about calling out toxic, envious nonsense when I see it, and you, my dear, are a fountain of it.
But understand that every word just proves you're not a critic......you're just another bitter voice in the chorus, furious that the world doesn't have to perform gratitude for your approval.
This is insane. So Gong Jun works hard, gets his spot at the top.. now he has to ensure that all the people who…
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You've officially run out of argument and have resorted to the last refuge of the intellectually bankrupt: pretending that being called out is a personal emotional crisis for the person calling you out.
"Will you cry?" "Will you not sleep?" What are you, twelve? This isn't the playground. My sleep is perfectly sound, because unlike you, I don't derive my sense of purpose from crafting backhanded, morally-loaded "critiques" of strangers on the internet.
You talk about policing, but the only one desperate for control here is you. You want the power to frame an actor's entire career as a debt he owes to the less fortunate, and you want to be shielded from the consequences of that nasty little narrative. You want to dish out the "self-righteous hate"—and yes, you absolutely chose it—but you can't take it when it's reflected back at you.
You are not a critic. A critic engages with the work. You are a moralizer, using the language of critique to dress up a petty grievance about an artist not living up to your personal charter of gratitude. You're not mad I'm "policing" you. You're mad because I ripped away the flimsy veil of "impartiality" you were hiding behind and exposed your comment for what it is: lame, envious, and utterly devoid of any substantive point.
So by all means, keep writing your "critics." And I'll keep pointing out that they're trash. It's a free internet. But don't for one second think your condescending little jabs about sleep or tears land as anything other than the pathetic flailings of someone who has well and truly lost the plot.
Not only will i sleep...but I'll especially sleep with my ass out so you can come and kiss it😂😂😂
This is insane. So Gong Jun works hard, gets his spot at the top.. now he has to ensure that all the people who…
You're right about one thing....i would survive. Just like I'm surviving watching you try to backpedal from the core implication of your original statement.
Call it "context," call it a "regular critic," but you don't get to use the "tough unfair industry" as a backdrop for your disappointment and then act shocked when someone points out that your "context" is a loaded argument. The entire purpose of bringing up "opportunities that many dream of" is to weight your criticism with a moral charge...the charge of perceived ingratitude or squandered privilege.
You say you "alluded" to the industry. Fine. But you did so specifically to contrast his position with the less fortunate. That is not a neutral observation; it's a framing device designed to make your critique about more than just performance. It makes it about his character and his perceived lack of appreciation for his "luck."
And now you're resorting to "you're mad" and "you'd survive" condescension because your framing has been challenged. You can't defend the substance of the argument, so you're dismissing the reaction to it.
I guess my main mistake was not telling you what I've been trying to explain with so much nuance and semantics....your original comment was an incredibly moronic statement.
I should have just said it...that your entire sentence was stupid.....but i had to bore both of us with explanations....thinking you...the original moronic comment maker....would understand.....but that was on me....i was dreaming too beautifully.
So i guess we'll both be fine when i simply comment that your entire argument is moronic.
This is insane. So Gong Jun works hard, gets his spot at the top.. now he has to ensure that all the people who…
You're still missing the point. Completely.
You call it a "general comment" and "impartial criticism," but the entire foundation of your critique is this assumption of unearned opportunity. You said he "gets opportunities that many in the industry dream of." My whole point is that this framing is fundamentally flawed and dismisses his actual work.
He didn't "get" Word of Honor. He took it. When no one else would. He built that opportunity out of nothing a low-budget, high-risk project with zero guarantees. That's not being handed a dream chance; that's a gamble that paid off because of his work on that specific role. The success that followed was a consequence, not a privilege he was given for which he must now perpetually prove his worth.
Your "disappointment" is rooted in the expectation that because he is now successful, he must now meet a certain standard that you deem worthy of his position. But his position wasn't a gift. It was built. The directors and producers you allude to in the "harsh industry" are the very people who are approving his work now. So who is the real judge? You, or the professionals who continue to hire him?
You can say you're not personally asking for gratitude, but you are invoking the "less fortunate" in the industry to contextualize your disappointment. That is precisely the "he owes the universe" logic. It's not impartial; it's a value judgment loaded with a specific, and frankly unfair, perception of his career trajectory.
So critique the acting. Say you don't like it. But leave the "wasted opportunities" narrative out of it. That narrative is the "extra nonsense," and it's what I'm calling crazy.
And it may seem like I'm frustrated...but this isn't frustration....I'm just baffled by the fact that people can so self righteously hate instead of straight up dissing like everyone else....that's what the paragraph is for....
GJ’s voice acting for SMY is too low for me. I ‘d love him to speak a little bit stronger and enunciate the…
yes...i felt the same first episode too....but it got better. I donno if i just got used to it or it got better as the episodes went along...it sounded less awkward
Its the same in female centric drama...that's why there's a lot of fighting over such things in Chinese social media. Male actors actually reach a point of fane and fanbase that they will only ever starr in such dramas where they are the sole focus ....like Luo Yunxi's current drama, Cheng Yi's drama, Xiao Zhan, Yang Yang.....that's how it usually goes.
Like in Go to the mountains and seas.....Gu LiNazha is the fl...but she has very few scenes....it was mostly about the male lead.
That's usually the case in male centered dramas especially wuxia.....there can be a female lead....but she won't really appear much. That's why fans usually fight about these things
😭😭😭Changhe.....No guillotine could ever take away the head i would give you if could😓😓
The only thing more pathetic than your critique is your retreat into condescension. You offer "advice on wording" because you cannot engage with the argument.
You dismiss a point as "philosophical" because you lack the depth to comprehend it.😂😂😂(makes sense cause that moronic comment that caused all this was a blaring signal)
You are a small critic with a smaller mind, reducing every challenge to "madness" because you are incapable of a real defense. This was never about the actor. It was about exposing the petty, envious core of your "impartial" judgment.
And you have done that beautifully( for you) . Now, by all means, run along. Your work here is done.
And thanks...my day has BEEN carrying on.....this has just been some minor toilet convo...no biggie.
Good night. Don't choke on your saliva or..
anything...please!😘😘😘
You keep bleating "mad fan!" like a broken mantra, because it's the only card you have left. It's a pathetic attempt to dismiss any challenge to your poorly constructed arguments.
Let's be perfectly clear: I'm not mad you criticized him. I am contemptuous of the lazy, moralizing, and intellectually dishonest framework you used to do it. There's a difference, but I wouldn't expect someone of your caliber to grasp it.
You "gave up" because you realized you had no ground to stand on. Your "clarification" was a waste of time because you had nothing of substance to clarify.....you were just trying to backpedal from the nasty implications of your own words.
And the grand, hilarious finale of your little performance is this: "You know it like I know it." 😫😫😫😫😫 No, I don't know that. Because I'm not you, projecting my own bitterness onto a stranger.
I'm not the one seething because an actor I've never met succeeded through a risk I didn't take. This isn't about a "free world" or a "show I like." This is about calling out toxic, envious nonsense when I see it, and you, my dear, are a fountain of it.
But understand that every word just proves you're not a critic......you're just another bitter voice in the chorus, furious that the world doesn't have to perform gratitude for your approval.
You've officially run out of argument and have resorted to the last refuge of the intellectually bankrupt: pretending that being called out is a personal emotional crisis for the person calling you out.
"Will you cry?" "Will you not sleep?" What are you, twelve? This isn't the playground. My sleep is perfectly sound, because unlike you, I don't derive my sense of purpose from crafting backhanded, morally-loaded "critiques" of strangers on the internet.
You talk about policing, but the only one desperate for control here is you. You want the power to frame an actor's entire career as a debt he owes to the less fortunate, and you want to be shielded from the consequences of that nasty little narrative. You want to dish out the "self-righteous hate"—and yes, you absolutely chose it—but you can't take it when it's reflected back at you.
You are not a critic. A critic engages with the work. You are a moralizer, using the language of critique to dress up a petty grievance about an artist not living up to your personal charter of gratitude. You're not mad I'm "policing" you. You're mad because I ripped away the flimsy veil of "impartiality" you were hiding behind and exposed your comment for what it is: lame, envious, and utterly devoid of any substantive point.
So by all means, keep writing your "critics." And I'll keep pointing out that they're trash. It's a free internet. But don't for one second think your condescending little jabs about sleep or tears land as anything other than the pathetic flailings of someone who has well and truly lost the plot.
Not only will i sleep...but I'll especially sleep with my ass out so you can come and kiss it😂😂😂
Call it "context," call it a "regular critic," but you don't get to use the "tough unfair industry" as a backdrop for your disappointment and then act shocked when someone points out that your "context" is a loaded argument. The entire purpose of bringing up "opportunities that many dream of" is to weight your criticism with a moral charge...the charge of perceived ingratitude or squandered privilege.
You say you "alluded" to the industry. Fine. But you did so specifically to contrast his position with the less fortunate. That is not a neutral observation; it's a framing device designed to make your critique about more than just performance. It makes it about his character and his perceived lack of appreciation for his "luck."
And now you're resorting to "you're mad" and "you'd survive" condescension because your framing has been challenged. You can't defend the substance of the argument, so you're dismissing the reaction to it.
I guess my main mistake was not telling you what I've been trying to explain with so much nuance and semantics....your original comment was an incredibly moronic statement.
I should have just said it...that your entire sentence was stupid.....but i had to bore both of us with explanations....thinking you...the original moronic comment maker....would understand.....but that was on me....i was dreaming too beautifully.
So i guess we'll both be fine when i simply comment that your entire argument is moronic.
You call it a "general comment" and "impartial criticism," but the entire foundation of your critique is this assumption of unearned opportunity. You said he "gets opportunities that many in the industry dream of." My whole point is that this framing is fundamentally flawed and dismisses his actual work.
He didn't "get" Word of Honor. He took it. When no one else would. He built that opportunity out of nothing a low-budget, high-risk project with zero guarantees. That's not being handed a dream chance; that's a gamble that paid off because of his work on that specific role. The success that followed was a consequence, not a privilege he was given for which he must now perpetually prove his worth.
Your "disappointment" is rooted in the expectation that because he is now successful, he must now meet a certain standard that you deem worthy of his position. But his position wasn't a gift. It was built. The directors and producers you allude to in the "harsh industry" are the very people who are approving his work now. So who is the real judge? You, or the professionals who continue to hire him?
You can say you're not personally asking for gratitude, but you are invoking the "less fortunate" in the industry to contextualize your disappointment. That is precisely the "he owes the universe" logic. It's not impartial; it's a value judgment loaded with a specific, and frankly unfair, perception of his career trajectory.
So critique the acting. Say you don't like it. But leave the "wasted opportunities" narrative out of it. That narrative is the "extra nonsense," and it's what I'm calling crazy.
And it may seem like I'm frustrated...but this isn't frustration....I'm just baffled by the fact that people can so self righteously hate instead of straight up dissing like everyone else....that's what the paragraph is for....