This may be an unpopular opinion, but, I don't care at all about goudan. Everyone else seems gaga for him to exist.…
Saying is a symbol...doesn't mean it is needed
What I'm saying is .....i like the symbol of it....therefore ....it is cute and nice
But the show does symbolize it....they show the name and the hut ....when they have their flashbacks....i just finsih watching it and they zoom out and aim at the name of the hut
As i stated....why can't they do all....
Travel ...marriage ...baby.....this is based on the characters desire and wants.....ML dreaming of it
If that is what is wanted......doesn't make it less....many ppl want a family and baby....
Idc....do what makes you happy.....i don't judge ppl if they do or don't (family with kids)
Except for turtle boy....all the love story shown on this drama has been tragic and everyone dead....sadistic script writer.
Remind me when i yelled at my sister in law....whom is chinese. I make her translate for me....i asked her why chinese drama is Allergic to HEA ....hahahaha....
I rarely watch long dramas.....took me forever to watch Good Bye my princess....that one hurt soo good as well....also 2 great actors
I think nirvana in fire is the only 1 i watch at 90% (less skipping)
Bts
Someone mentioned CY is shy?! He has me dying laughing....even chaotic YZ is bending over in laughter....with her competition....she met her match
They need a HEA with their baby in the mortal realm.
Baby girl died like 3x for her love.....
Baby boy sacrifice soo much for the greater good....
Both had to let go for the greater good......sooo they Need their HEA living carefree in the mortal realm
YD as a famous playwriter ....with YY as the doting hubby with their lil baby!!
Side note.
I really enjoyed the mortal arch. It didn't feel draggy to me. I however felt the 2nd Heavenly felt draggy. That girl was more annoying than Lamp girl. They could've consolidated certain plot/scenes. I felt there was a repetitiveness with the annoying girl.
Overall i enjoyed it. YZ and CY are such great actors . I need them to reunite again. We all know they emote well.....i would love a comedy anti-hero type....they are hilarious in the bts.
Manifesting a series reunion ...as the main lead pairing....duet...
I don't think YZ reunited with any of her pairing as leads
I can "understand " how the ending can be "justified "
But
I'm not ok with the ending....because of the fact of the sacrifices other had to show their love....ending in naught.....they did so for them to have their true happiness......
I hope the last 2 ep...have a reincarnation....or something..... I'm not ok with it
I.e. ok my princess....when i saw the ending....it couldn't have ending in any other way that it ended....it was the only fitting ending
Here this is NOT the only fitting ending....it doesn't have to be like this...another reason... I'm not ok with the wedding
Ok so I paused watching the drama until now. Full disclosure, I am a fan of Yang Zi. I didn't have high hopes for this drama.
It is everything I'm not fond of. Xianxan and long. I hate long drama. Chinese dramas are also notorious for fillers. Also, Xianxan has the cliche formula and tropes.
The images look gorgeous, and the Trailer looked funny. So, I figured I'll give it a try.
Believe me or not. I could care less. I have no problem criticizing a drama of actors I'm a fan of and complimenting an actor I'm not a fan of.
I dropped her drama, Mogwli Boy. The script sucked. I did not like her character. I didn't care for her character in ode joy either. Too whiney.
Although I had it on paused, I continue to come read and sometime comment on the drama. I have issues with angst and needed to be completed before I continued.
So here are some pointers I wanted to comment on from what I read. Regardless of how carefully I word this and KNow it is some and not all. ......well if you are offended....then you're probably an offender.
1. People complained about the Angst/troupe/cliche
I find this funny. Do they realize they are watching a Xianxan drama??!!! Even if there is some deviation, it is still a Xianxan. Which mean it will have the typical trope. Each drama and story will execute it differently, but in general same formula.
Don't give me that BS of, even if it is a Xianxan. It should still be more like this and that. Your bias and prejudice are showing. Sit down. I know for a fact that if these people were watching it with their Favorite, they'll be singing a different tone. I feel many who state this is not with "in Good faith." Constructive.
Point is you go into a Genre but expect it NOT to have similarities to its usual Tropes?> What? i.e. I got into a romance movie, regardless of how it is executed. They all have the same formula but presented differently. Some are more creative in how they make it and others not so much.
I.e. > Hallmark Movies. They pretty much all the same formula. But that is what people love about it. A feel good easy love story (romantic movie.).
2. Not Romantic (mortal realm)
I know people's romantic vibe is different, but again I find that many of the comments are "Not in good faith."
As state I know people 's Definition of "Romances" is different. For many people it is the buildup to skinship like Horny teenagers. For others it is romantic mature love. There is different type of love languages that clicks with people. It also depends on our experiences as well.
As I stated, Many and Not all.
I like and enjoyed the Eternal love (24 ep 1). Part two was ok, BUT too much kissing. Part 1 had lots of kissing to but a slightly better storyline. By part 2, I was tired of the senseless kissing.
I found the mortal realm romantic. It was a different type of romantic vibe. It's that yearning, the glaze of the eyes, the light touch, the observations and so on. That simple interactions......made my heart fluttered with anticipation. They got to really know each other and care for each other. I found their love very touching because of the friendship. Just passionate love can get you so far. Oh the flirting got me giggling and heart fluttering. Yes, many of those scenes are "Dreams", but it is still the characters desire.
But again, I understand different people have different style.....but many commenter were in bad faith.
3. Angst and Misunderstanding
I Loathe IT and usually avoid them. I even stopped the drama to avoid it. The angst honestly wasn't bad at all. AGAIN coming to a Xianxan drama it should be expected. Like coughing blood, dying before you finish your sentences, and long episodes. I felt that this angst propel the story for better character development.
I felt the Main Leads didn't have a lot of misunderstandings. There was miscommunication. That can't be avoided. There was some miscommunication ....more misunderstanding from lack of mindset to understand (experiences)
The misunderstandings are of the Intent the other person had for the other. FL being "Green". She isn't experienced enough to see things in gray. ML was not a big difference. Even with his experiences, he was very rigid. Black and white with a hint of gray. Both from different type of upbringing.
Which, in turn.....is a great opportunity for character growth in which the drama did.
They communicated but it was not Functional communications. They couldn't have that understanding, until they went through the mortal trial experiences.
YD would have NEVER fully understood and be able to have that understanding communication with him until her mortal realm experiences. During her experiences in the mortal realm, she witnessed his anguish and struggled with his duties. She also was able to build more bond with him.
YY also would never fully understand nor communicate with YD well until he fully lived as TZ. As TZ he was able to lived in a less restrictive environment. He still had his duties but with more freedom of expression. During here time here, he learned how to truly express his love and even fight for it.,
Without these experiences they would never be able to fully communicate and understand each other. They were on a different wave length in the past and now it has merged better.
Many people say for them to just talk to each other. It is NEVER that simple. You can talk to someone all you want, but if they don't have that mindset and understand. Then it is pointless and result in nothing. This is also in real Life. We ourselves deal with. IF it is just as simple as to "just talk to each other", then we never would have conflict. But that isn't.
Again I find many of the comment in bad faith and lack there of worldly experiences and knowledge.
4. YD and YY - Some people mad at their reactions and decisions (blaming)
YY got grief in how he handled it in the Heavens and YD for mortal world.
YY inadvertently caused her suffering but it is not totally his fault. He has never presented himself as anything other than who he is. He is The LIL Emperor who is to follow the rules and fill his duties. That is what he was groomed for his whole life. She did she some of his sorrow and suffering during the roof scene. She was too "green" to fully understand/comprehend his responsibilities/BURden and restraint. Until the Mortal realm.
YD- Being pissed at him after she gain her memories
Many people were pissed at her reaction.
But her reaction makes total sense . She just gained her memory. Which mean it felt like it just happened to her. So it is expected for her to just easily digest it and go, let by gones be by gones. Yes, because it is soo easy to just get over things (SARCASM). Her reaction is appropriate. She was pissed, hurt, and full of anguish. She did not hurt him. She still saved his life. She was not revengeful and try to make him pay. She chose to save herself more grief because she knows who he is. She knows he will have to go back to the restraint of the heavens. On earth he has the restraint of the bracelet. So why does she need to accept his love. She doesn't owe it to him. She chose to love herself. She wasn't wrong, he is restraint as the Chief in waiting. His position and duties caused her harm again. She again is put on trial for death. This time TZ restraint broke with is will to break free.
We see a lot of parallel experiences of the Main leads here. The cliff scene and the scene at the alley. YD and TZ words/actions parallel each other.
I felt the writing here was good. There is of course some filler and little drag. It was actually not bad. I ffw more in AOL. The angst there was much worse and oh the damn love triangle. The characters here are all smart, comradery and great character growth.
I LOVE YD, so smart, naughty and witty. One of the best FL characters out there. I love the 3 main characters and their comradery. ML is smart and mischievous. Yumo is sweet and caring.
They praise her for her professionalism
https://youtu.be/MKMyuj7Ly9s
More BTs Antics.....still hilarious
https://youtu.be/lzXWro4uzQ4
More bts no sub
Him shouting...don't touch me
@3:00 him dancing...cute and funny...hip shaking.. I'm dead
https://youtu.be/n0Q5Ki3raJI
But my other point is....
Do whatever makes you happy.......no should or shouldn't
There's no right or wrong way...just dont hurt ppl hahahaha
But want....this is what the character wanted with his dream
It is based on what was shown
If that is what is shown for their wants and dream...maybe end goal...there is nothing wrong with that either
It doesn't have to be one or the other....they can have ir do what their hearts desire....travel....marriage....kids...ect
What I'm saying is .....i like the symbol of it....therefore ....it is cute and nice
But the show does symbolize it....they show the name and the hut ....when they have their flashbacks....i just finsih watching it and they zoom out and aim at the name of the hut
As i stated....why can't they do all....
Travel ...marriage ...baby.....this is based on the characters desire and wants.....ML dreaming of it
If that is what is wanted......doesn't make it less....many ppl want a family and baby....
Idc....do what makes you happy.....i don't judge ppl if they do or don't (family with kids)
The edit/caption ....lol
https://youtu.be/5DTPpwmQT08
Except for turtle boy....all the love story shown on this drama has been tragic and everyone dead....sadistic script writer.
Remind me when i yelled at my sister in law....whom is chinese. I make her translate for me....i asked her why chinese drama is Allergic to HEA ....hahahaha....
I rarely watch long dramas.....took me forever to watch Good Bye my princess....that one hurt soo good as well....also 2 great actors
I think nirvana in fire is the only 1 i watch at 90% (less skipping)
Bts
Someone mentioned CY is shy?! He has me dying laughing....even chaotic YZ is bending over in laughter....with her competition....she met her match
https://youtu.be/iFGgtaS6uWM
They can travel around the world...that is how she got her materials to write....
Settle down...family with a baby
I'm not obsessed about the baby....Goudan.....
But Goudan is a big symbol of their bond and love....the hut where they fully bonded and lay root to their developing feelings....love
But those jerks for releasing on the 7th -.-.
They need a HEA with their baby in the mortal realm.
Baby girl died like 3x for her love.....
Baby boy sacrifice soo much for the greater good....
Both had to let go for the greater good......sooo they Need their HEA living carefree in the mortal realm
YD as a famous playwriter ....with YY as the doting hubby with their lil baby!!
Side note.
I really enjoyed the mortal arch. It didn't feel draggy to me. I however felt the 2nd Heavenly felt draggy. That girl was more annoying than Lamp girl. They could've consolidated certain plot/scenes. I felt there was a repetitiveness with the annoying girl.
Overall i enjoyed it. YZ and CY are such great actors . I need them to reunite again. We all know they emote well.....i would love a comedy anti-hero type....they are hilarious in the bts.
Manifesting a series reunion ...as the main lead pairing....duet...
I don't think YZ reunited with any of her pairing as leads
But
I'm not ok with the ending....because of the fact of the sacrifices other had to show their love....ending in naught.....they did so for them to have their true happiness......
I hope the last 2 ep...have a reincarnation....or something..... I'm not ok with it
I.e. ok my princess....when i saw the ending....it couldn't have ending in any other way that it ended....it was the only fitting ending
Here this is NOT the only fitting ending....it doesn't have to be like this...another reason... I'm not ok with the wedding
Sadly not available on my viki
It is everything I'm not fond of. Xianxan and long. I hate long drama. Chinese dramas are also notorious for fillers. Also, Xianxan has the cliche formula and tropes.
The images look gorgeous, and the Trailer looked funny. So, I figured I'll give it a try.
Believe me or not. I could care less. I have no problem criticizing a drama of actors I'm a fan of and complimenting an actor I'm not a fan of.
I dropped her drama, Mogwli Boy. The script sucked. I did not like her character. I didn't care for her character in ode joy either. Too whiney.
Although I had it on paused, I continue to come read and sometime comment on the drama. I have issues with angst and needed to be completed before I continued.
So here are some pointers I wanted to comment on from what I read. Regardless of how carefully I word this and KNow it is some and not all. ......well if you are offended....then you're probably an offender.
1. People complained about the Angst/troupe/cliche
I find this funny. Do they realize they are watching a Xianxan drama??!!! Even if there is some deviation, it is still a Xianxan. Which mean it will have the typical trope. Each drama and story will execute it differently, but in general same formula.
Don't give me that BS of, even if it is a Xianxan. It should still be more like this and that. Your bias and prejudice are showing. Sit down. I know for a fact that if these people were watching it with their Favorite, they'll be singing a different tone. I feel many who state this is not with "in Good faith." Constructive.
Point is you go into a Genre but expect it NOT to have similarities to its usual Tropes?> What?
i.e. I got into a romance movie, regardless of how it is executed. They all have the same formula but presented differently. Some are more creative in how they make it and others not so much.
I.e. > Hallmark Movies. They pretty much all the same formula. But that is what people love about it. A feel good easy love story (romantic movie.).
2. Not Romantic (mortal realm)
I know people's romantic vibe is different, but again I find that many of the comments are "Not in good faith."
As state I know people 's Definition of "Romances" is different. For many people it is the buildup to skinship like Horny teenagers. For others it is romantic mature love. There is different type of love languages that clicks with people. It also depends on our experiences as well.
As I stated, Many and Not all.
I like and enjoyed the Eternal love (24 ep 1). Part two was ok, BUT too much kissing. Part 1 had lots of kissing to but a slightly better storyline. By part 2, I was tired of the senseless kissing.
I found the mortal realm romantic. It was a different type of romantic vibe. It's that yearning, the glaze of the eyes, the light touch, the observations and so on. That simple interactions......made my heart fluttered with anticipation. They got to really know each other and care for each other. I found their love very touching because of the friendship. Just passionate love can get you so far. Oh the flirting got me giggling and heart fluttering. Yes, many of those scenes are "Dreams", but it is still the characters desire.
But again, I understand different people have different style.....but many commenter were in bad faith.
3. Angst and Misunderstanding
I Loathe IT and usually avoid them. I even stopped the drama to avoid it. The angst honestly wasn't bad at all. AGAIN coming to a Xianxan drama it should be expected. Like coughing blood, dying before you finish your sentences, and long episodes. I felt that this angst propel the story for better character development.
I felt the Main Leads didn't have a lot of misunderstandings. There was miscommunication. That can't be avoided. There was some miscommunication ....more misunderstanding from lack of mindset to understand (experiences)
The misunderstandings are of the Intent the other person had for the other. FL being "Green". She isn't experienced enough to see things in gray. ML was not a big difference. Even with his experiences, he was very rigid. Black and white with a hint of gray. Both from different type of upbringing.
Which, in turn.....is a great opportunity for character growth in which the drama did.
They communicated but it was not Functional communications. They couldn't have that understanding, until they went through the mortal trial experiences.
YD would have NEVER fully understood and be able to have that understanding communication with him until her mortal realm experiences. During her experiences in the mortal realm, she witnessed his anguish and struggled with his duties. She also was able to build more bond with him.
YY also would never fully understand nor communicate with YD well until he fully lived as TZ. As TZ he was able to lived in a less restrictive environment. He still had his duties but with more freedom of expression. During here time here, he learned how to truly express his love and even fight for it.,
Without these experiences they would never be able to fully communicate and understand each other. They were on a different wave length in the past and now it has merged better.
Many people say for them to just talk to each other. It is NEVER that simple. You can talk to someone all you want, but if they don't have that mindset and understand. Then it is pointless and result in nothing. This is also in real Life. We ourselves deal with. IF it is just as simple as to "just talk to each other", then we never would have conflict. But that isn't.
Again I find many of the comment in bad faith and lack there of worldly experiences and knowledge.
4. YD and YY - Some people mad at their reactions and decisions (blaming)
YY got grief in how he handled it in the Heavens and YD for mortal world.
YY inadvertently caused her suffering but it is not totally his fault. He has never presented himself as anything other than who he is. He is The LIL Emperor who is to follow the rules and fill his duties. That is what he was groomed for his whole life. She did she some of his sorrow and suffering during the roof scene. She was too "green" to fully understand/comprehend his responsibilities/BURden and restraint. Until the Mortal realm.
YD- Being pissed at him after she gain her memories
Many people were pissed at her reaction.
But her reaction makes total sense . She just gained her memory. Which mean it felt like it just happened to her. So it is expected for her to just easily digest it and go, let by gones be by gones. Yes, because it is soo easy to just get over things (SARCASM). Her reaction is appropriate. She was pissed, hurt, and full of anguish. She did not hurt him. She still saved his life. She was not revengeful and try to make him pay. She chose to save herself more grief because she knows who he is. She knows he will have to go back to the restraint of the heavens. On earth he has the restraint of the bracelet. So why does she need to accept his love. She doesn't owe it to him. She chose to love herself. She wasn't wrong, he is restraint as the Chief in waiting. His position and duties caused her harm again. She again is put on trial for death. This time TZ restraint broke with is will to break free.
We see a lot of parallel experiences of the Main leads here. The cliff scene and the scene at the alley. YD and TZ words/actions parallel each other.
I felt the writing here was good. There is of course some filler and little drag. It was actually not bad. I ffw more in AOL. The angst there was much worse and oh the damn love triangle. The characters here are all smart, comradery and great character growth.
I LOVE YD, so smart, naughty and witty. One of the best FL characters out there. I love the 3 main characters and their comradery. ML is smart and mischievous. Yumo is sweet and caring.
These ppl here have soo much prejudice and bias
I can not be a fan of a actor but can still recognize if they are a good actor...even if I'm not a fan
It should not be allow in any series/dramas reviews
They would do so well....emoting those characters