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I think when Grandma and HJP chose NDS's name and background for the letters, they determined the outcome already.

As long as the story is consistent and entertaining... So far there is no reason for Dal Mi to end up with HJP. After 12 eps there is not a hint to an interest of Dal Mi for HJP as a man. Will he show her the letters and she will fall for him? or she will suddenly be struck by a revelation that her destined lover is HJP?

There are 4 episodes left but I don't see any romantic development between SDM and HJP. After three years he did not win her heart. Why would he now? In the preview, HJP got very close to SDM's family playing Go stop with them. We even see Dal Mi put a blanket on him just like Do San did with his father. Probably she sees him like family now. But he better hurry if he wants to make her fall for him.

I don't believe HJP is the one for her but let's see and enjoy no matter what happens.

Maybe I"ll give a try at Fiery priest but my watchlist is already so long. lol.

I liked JCW's pairing with HJW a little less because of the story. Seung Nyuang was infatuated with King Wang Yoo first and if I did not really adhere to that romance, I recongize they had a good chemistry. Better than between her and Ta Hwan (JCW). She also looked older than him as an Empress. But Ok , that's my personal opinion.

Same my fav pairing for JCW is NJH. They were sparkling in Suspicious Partner.

No you wrong. In front of the bird house Dal Mi asked him Why Do San tag along and showed up at the Networking party. HJP said Becasue at that time SST needed investment. Dal Mi then said "he did it for the money". HJP that liar added "No, that's not true. It It may be at first , but his feelings about you became real" . HJP basically made her believe Do San took the money at first then his feelings became real. He brought money into the discussion to make Dal Mi make herself the assumption DoSan and STT took it and he gave her a candy about Do San's feelings so that she would swallow the lie with it. That's the truth. He lied. Do San went to the party on his own and was never paid for his decision.

You saying that he could not throw Grandma under the bus and had to lie just means you acknowledge the lie. A lie is a lie. Independently from the excuse.

HJP lied he wrote the letters on his own as a simple favor for grandma who was not more involved. He lied. He did all this to make himself the "2nd person".

I am saying this, I know you like most HJP worshippers, you cannot admit the facts. Have nice day too.

In the end, if Do San gets Dal Mi I will rate it 10.5. If he doesn't, I will rate it 6. If HJP gets Dal Mi I will rate it -100.

lol. I'll prepare myself for all eventualities!

Unfortunately I have not watched the Fiery Priest. I did not have issue with the way it was shot or the characters. Most of them were ok, the mother or the rasta friend and SB'friend. Maybe I was just not satisfied with how the romance was undeveloped and how they concluded it.

I remember this debate about the chemistry between JCW and KYJ and I have not changed my opinion. They are both established actors and have a natural chemistry. They did their best but I share the opinion that the writer and producers had to curb the romance by creating some distance between their character and it did make them look like brother and sister.

For me his best pairings were PMY and NJH. I liked Kim Ji Won as a lead actress in Fight for my way or as a support actress in Descendants of the sun. I hope the writing will be good to create a great chemistry.

Well it is acceptable assumptions but I surely hope they have both evolved to resolve their differences in an more adult (and fun if possible) way.

We don't really know in what state Do San will come back from the USA. From the preview he and HJP are still playing little mind games in relation with Dal Mi. That kind of worries me. I thought we were beyond this stage already.

Yes I was expecting better from JCW after dropping MMS. I laud him for taking on new challenges, things different from Healer or K2 but his two last drama were disappointing not because of him but because of the chemistry of the main leads and the writing. I hope his new drama will be better.

Chinese historical dramas care to be realistic. So they do not hesitate to portay some emperors, kings, princes.. with plenty of wifes and concubines or whatever... with a harem. I understand the need to be accurate but still, I find it lousy. lol.

I like Sun Yi and Jin Han is OK but I won't try this for the same reason. Especially in Cdrama, love triangles are rather two timing and sometimes she ends with the kid of one and love the other one. I hate that. I'll wait for the final reviews to see if it is worth going through the journey of watching

Yeah I agree the producers and actors knew they just escaped catastrophy and they could not take any risk anymore. That had an impact on the drama and forced them be very measured regarding the romance of Dae Hyun and Saet Byul.

I understand your point of view regarding Dae Hyun. He was happy enough with his family, his friend, his shop and a nice girl. But still I was expecting more from him and overall. It was not bad but it was still frustrating for me.

I hope he will be less introverted, more assertive and confident or these three years in the USA would have been a waste of time for him. I want to see him come back and win Dal Mi's heart or maybe she will win his heart again because I always thought Dal Mi is the blunt kind regarding matters of her own heart.

She really loved him for the real him but she knew that she had to let him go for his own good. Because he made her his success and she did not want this as it is a waste of his talent. I hope three years later, after he comes back, he is different and more accomplished so it was worth the sacrifice she made.

HJP had three years to win her heart. If Do San comes back and he and Dal Mi want to rekindle their feelings, I don't see why he would stay in their way. I really don't want 4 more episodes of a lousy love triangle. I hope NDS and HJP changed in a better way to resolve the situation in a smart adult an fun way and not with childish schemes. If the writer wants a good ending for Dal Mi and both male leads, it is now time to develop the story in new fresh directions.

In my experience of dramal I have seen a few time the FL ending with the SML but all these time, the FL had her heart hesitating between the two and she had "moments of complicity" with both of them. But in this drama, it is not the case. Dal Mi never had any interest for Ji Pyeong as a teen or as the man he is now. She will most likely end up with Do San but who knows? in dramaland...

It already happened in some other drama like Baker King. When the second male lead and FL had too much of a good chemistry, the writer changed the course of the story to put them together in the end.

In the case of Start-up, SML has a huge popular support so they could totally change the writing or ask for a reshoot to change the ending and please the trend. At this stage of the drama ep12, it is not the direction they are heading to as there is no romance at all between FL and SML but who knows. We are in dramaland and even the most unexpected can happen.

You should not pity. He is the one who is going to win the cup and kiss the princess. HJP at this stage has no chance to win Dal Mi. If during the 3 years Do San was away he did not win her heart when being everyday with Grandma and Dal Mi, I don't see why he would now that Do San is back. Do San and Dal Mi both fell in love for the first time. They will end up together unless there is a terrible twist.

NDS is not a straightforward person. He is a liar and he is selfish. When Dal Mi asked him about the truth in front of the bird house, he induced her into 3 lies:

- That Grandma only asked him as a favor when she was the mastermind of the scheme.
- That he wrote the letters by himself making him the "2nd person" when he and Grandma made up the letters and fake NDS together
- That Do San went to the Networking Party because he was paid for that when it is not true, he went on his own with no payment of anything.

When HJP noticed that after he told her he wrote the letters, Dal Mi did not care about him at all and only asked about Do San and Do San's involment and Do San's feelings for her, she was distressed and left. He knew he was loosing ground to Do San. This is why he chased after her the next day and went for an impromptu silly confession while mixing noodles. He acknowledged later he was not expecting to do it. Psychologically, he had to do it, even if Granda told him Dal Mi was with Do San and perfectly happy. Of course he had to go tell it to Do San like he is so fair when he should have told him before confessing if he was such a righteous guy. He is a selfish weasel.

HJP never did anything for SST and never trust them to achieve anything. He only accepted to mentor because Dal Mi asked him and he did things only for her and Grandma. If Dal Mi was CEO of any other company, He would never have stepped a foot close to SST.

On Demo day, he went hiding in an office room of Sandbox because he had a guilty conscience . After the confession, telling to Do San he won't help him anymore, remembering the Yong San's brother case, he could not face them. And when they won, he knew he was wrong so he did not dare to step out and go congratulate them as mentor of SST. Instead, he went on sick leave for a day and only appeared when it was too late. They were all distressed and in desperation of finding a solution and all upset and the guy just came to tell them "Blame youself" barking with his patronizing tone. lol! He totally deserved to be punched in the face. It helped him put his brain in the right order. He was talking and behaving a lot better to people after that.

I have watched the preview of ep13 yesterday. Apparently, HJP did not change. Except for becoming Director, he is still trying to be in the way of Do San and Dal Mi. lol. I thought we were past this stage for HJP but apparently... no. The guy spent 3 years unable to win Dal Mi's heart when Do San was away but he will still keep on pissing him off about Dal Mi.

I am not trying to project the realities of life on a drama like you are doing. I am just enjoying the drama and the characters in their own situation. If you want someone to debate with you about what they should do or not do to be in line with real life, you can go find someone to help you rewrite the drama. I am not that person.

Goodbye.