Gil Chae is married and Ryang Eum is beyond redemption. I love the princess. She is a nutcase and deluded but…
The princess has a sad story that made her stronger but also she as an extreme logic. She recognize the ML is an intelligent, self assured and capable man but she does not understand why such a man is infatuated with that woman. I hated that she pushed the ML into hunting her. It is something quite cruel to do. Maybe she wanted to test the depth of his feelings?
The drama has already plenty of cruel characters. It would be disappointing that a woman like her just ends up an agent to torture the ML and the FL. I hope there is complexity in her characterization.
As for Ryang Eum, let's see if this week end's eps make things clearer...
Gil Chae is married and Ryang Eum is beyond redemption. I love the princess. She is a nutcase and deluded but…
I liked the princess at first. I hope they do not turn her into some bitch because of some love triangle and she can be a good friend if not an ally for the ML. Ryang Eum, I really liked him in part 1. But in part 2, he is the other wtf evolution that I am still processing. I hope things develop in a good way for him because I am not sure where he stands now.
Gil Chae is married and Ryang Eum is beyond redemption. I love the princess. She is a nutcase and deluded but…
Sorry you wrote " your own definition doesn't stand up, and you are just incorrect. You need to go back and watch that movie, I guess - I just did. Then you can admit you're a hypocrite "...
that's making things personal.
I do not care that you call me an hypocrite. But I have no interest in this kind of discussion when you call others names.
The finale credit scene was not needed at all. It's just an indication of an open ending to keep the door open…
You mean the scene in the school in Singapore? I am not sure I understood it. I felt llike Dr Mo went to see her daughter Byeol that she sent to a special school in Singapore and the kid became a genius with the same face as Ro Hee. I found it funny but not sure if I got it right.
Gil Chae is married and Ryang Eum is beyond redemption. I love the princess. She is a nutcase and deluded but…
Lets stick with our own opinion since you are starting to make it personal. I am not interested in this kind of discussion. Thanks for the exchange anyway.
Gil Chae is married and Ryang Eum is beyond redemption. I love the princess. She is a nutcase and deluded but…
She chose to marry the officer and was happily married for years with no problems. They lived as husband and wife, and she never had issues with his personality. But now her husband is so bad and jealous because she was abducted. So she wants to stay with her ex suitor. How convenient. She resisted but her little adventures brought her back to the ML. That must be fate.
No need to hold hand or kiss or bed together to cheat. All it takes it to voluntarily lie or keep your partner or spouse ignorant of where you heart and intentions lay to take an advantage or enjoy a situation. She is cheating in her heart and in her head already. He is no better than her because he should see her as the married woman she is but instead his silly infatuation is encouraging her.
Scarlett was in love with Ashley but she respected her husbands and never took immoral stance like "My husband is bad, I am going to find a suitor who is so good to me". She was an immature person but also a responsible one. The characterization is important and the one of the FL here with her action away from her husband is not good for me. Of course, threatening the princess regarding the life of her ex-suitor was acting on her feelings.
I do not expect her to go to her husband and clear her situation. I think they will keep using the husband as a roadblock and a cuck until he does something crazy and dies the jealous man he is.
The truth is that we the viewers know what the husband did and does and we can judge him on that calling him jealous or pushy or irritable or scheming or planning to have her killed. But the FL does not know. It is like showing the husband stealing the couple's money and the wife says, "I prefer to go back to my ex-suitor” and we say it is because her husband stole their money. But she did not even see him stealing the money. Why justify her actions based on things that we know but she does not know? That's poor writing.
Gil Chae is married and Ryang Eum is beyond redemption. I love the princess. She is a nutcase and deluded but…
Putting a suddenly jealous, ridiculous useless husband in the middle belongs to cuckolding stories. Not romance.
What a joke. She decides to marry the officer. They marry, bed willingly on that night, live, eat and sleep together in a perfect marriage. Then suddenly she is abducted and the husband become like a bad man and this frees her from her wedding vows?
She should go back to her husband clear her situation. This is what someone with decent morality should do no matter what her husband does. But I guess she is a "modern" woman.
Yes lets see what will happen but this part is poor writing.
how is she unfaithful when she did the same thing he did?
Maybe not only her past feelings for Ki Chul.
To me the relationship between ML and FL was strained before the undercover operation. We don't see their love story. We barely see them in a warm comfortable situation, like a loving couple. Talking and communicating like a couple. Their bond was not so strong.
On the contrary, we see FL and SML play, ride bike, talk about dreams and future, kiss. Their bond as teens was stronger and the way it ended gave some sense of unfinished story.
The three of them did not expect that situation to happen but it happened like by fate. And it broke them by taking them far into actions that created doubt.
The operation lead them on a dangerous path where they had to pretend but it created misunderstandings and it led to catastrophy. Eui Jeong cared so much about Ki Chul and after he died, Joon Mo could not stay with his wife and be remembered everyday all what they went through.
Gil Chae is married and Ryang Eum is beyond redemption. I love the princess. She is a nutcase and deluded but…
I am just saying that for me, a kdrama in Joseon era who has a FL who is married but is meddling with her ex-suitor that does not match with the law, habits and customs. Rarely saw that from leading characters in other historical kdramas I watched. Even if this kind of thing probably happened, it does not sit well for me as it puts a bad light on the lead characters ‘morality.
Plenty of elements in the drama look more or less realistic but I can accept them because it is not prejudicial to the way I see the main leads. I enjoyed part One despite all the unlikely things compared to Joseon Era. That Era probably never had a man like ML or a young woman like the FL. But it was a coherent, acceptable, fun, and entertaining.
The fact that they made her marry a nobody out of gratefulness and duty when she was so strong headed to only marry a man she loves, it was a joke. It brings nothing to the story but just serves as a cheap roadblock between the leads.
I do not expect much from the romance part. They look like silly cheaters who are backtracking on the first choice they made. Maybe there is a reason for that? Maybe it is preparing viewers to see them in even more "unconventional" ways and methods? This romance part is a failed version of "Gone with the wind". In that story, Scarlett married twice and was twice a widow. There was no morality issue compared to the awful "runaway wife/bad husband/infatuated ex-suitor" setting in this drama.
Eui Jeong fell in Love for the first time, but she lost that love tragically. Then she tried to move on and a…
That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. But for me she did not fall in love again with her first love. She did not sleep with him. She did not expect a new chance and a new life with him. She just did what was required to be next to him for the investigation.
The fact that her good feelings and memories were revived and Ki Chul became important for her again and she was desparate to see him dying does not mean she is trash. She is human and humans are not robots to control all their emotions and feelings.
Gil Chae is married and Ryang Eum is beyond redemption. I love the princess. She is a nutcase and deluded but…
You are seeing things with your 2023 eyes. In that era, husbands had all powers on their wife. If they knew their wife loved another man, voluntarily slept with another man, it did not matter they were good or bad husband, they could just have her punished. They could even kill her and just get away with a fine.
This characterization of the FL as a married woman meddling with he ex suitor is just wrong.
I agree with you. From the get go, there is little romance, cute moments and moments of understanding, caring…
Regarding the investigation, if we talk about realistic situation, the police officer leading the investigation looked very incompetent always trailing behind. They should not have used the wife in the same undercover mission. She should have been removed with a pretext.
Eui Jeong is not a cheater for me. She is a decent person but fate played a huge joke on her. I kind of feel sorry for her. I do not know if she deverses the ML or SML but she sure lost both of them.
The drama has already plenty of cruel characters. It would be disappointing that a woman like her just ends up an agent to torture the ML and the FL. I hope there is complexity in her characterization.
As for Ryang Eum, let's see if this week end's eps make things clearer...
Saying to someone "You need to go back and watch that movie [...]
Then you can admit you're a hypocrite"
That means you need me to do something so I can admit that I am what you consider I am "an hypocrite". That's derogatory. That's name.
Keep digging adding emoticons all you want.
that's making things personal.
I do not care that you call me an hypocrite. But I have no interest in this kind of discussion when you call others names.
Byebye.
No need to hold hand or kiss or bed together to cheat. All it takes it to voluntarily lie or keep your partner or spouse ignorant of where you heart and intentions lay to take an advantage or enjoy a situation. She is cheating in her heart and in her head already. He is no better than her because he should see her as the married woman she is but instead his silly infatuation is encouraging her.
Scarlett was in love with Ashley but she respected her husbands and never took immoral stance like "My husband is bad, I am going to find a suitor who is so good to me". She was an immature person but also a responsible one. The characterization is important and the one of the FL here with her action away from her husband is not good for me. Of course, threatening the princess regarding the life of her ex-suitor was acting on her feelings.
I do not expect her to go to her husband and clear her situation. I think they will keep using the husband as a roadblock and a cuck until he does something crazy and dies the jealous man he is.
The truth is that we the viewers know what the husband did and does and we can judge him on that calling him jealous or pushy or irritable or scheming or planning to have her killed. But the FL does not know. It is like showing the husband stealing the couple's money and the wife says, "I prefer to go back to my ex-suitor” and we say it is because her husband stole their money. But she did not even see him stealing the money. Why justify her actions based on things that we know but she does not know? That's poor writing.
What a joke. She decides to marry the officer. They marry, bed willingly on that night, live, eat and sleep together in a perfect marriage. Then suddenly she is abducted and the husband become like a bad man and this frees her from her wedding vows?
She should go back to her husband clear her situation. This is what someone with decent morality should do no matter what her husband does. But I guess she is a "modern" woman.
Yes lets see what will happen but this part is poor writing.
To me the relationship between ML and FL was strained before the undercover operation. We don't see their love story. We barely see them in a warm comfortable situation, like a loving couple. Talking and communicating like a couple. Their bond was not so strong.
On the contrary, we see FL and SML play, ride bike, talk about dreams and future, kiss. Their bond as teens was stronger and the way it ended gave some sense of unfinished story.
The three of them did not expect that situation to happen but it happened like by fate. And it broke them by taking them far into actions that created doubt.
The operation lead them on a dangerous path where they had to pretend but it created misunderstandings and it led to catastrophy. Eui Jeong cared so much about Ki Chul and after he died, Joon Mo could not stay with his wife and be remembered everyday all what they went through.
Plenty of elements in the drama look more or less realistic but I can accept them because it is not prejudicial to the way I see the main leads. I enjoyed part One despite all the unlikely things compared to Joseon Era. That Era probably never had a man like ML or a young woman like the FL. But it was a coherent, acceptable, fun, and entertaining.
The fact that they made her marry a nobody out of gratefulness and duty when she was so strong headed to only marry a man she loves, it was a joke. It brings nothing to the story but just serves as a cheap roadblock between the leads.
I do not expect much from the romance part. They look like silly cheaters who are backtracking on the first choice they made. Maybe there is a reason for that? Maybe it is preparing viewers to see them in even more "unconventional" ways and methods? This romance part is a failed version of "Gone with the wind". In that story, Scarlett married twice and was twice a widow. There was no morality issue compared to the awful "runaway wife/bad husband/infatuated ex-suitor" setting in this drama.
Hope the rest will be good.
The fact that her good feelings and memories were revived and Ki Chul became important for her again and she was desparate to see him dying does not mean she is trash. She is human and humans are not robots to control all their emotions and feelings.
This characterization of the FL as a married woman meddling with he ex suitor is just wrong.
Eui Jeong is not a cheater for me. She is a decent person but fate played a huge joke on her. I kind of feel sorry for her. I do not know if she deverses the ML or SML but she sure lost both of them.