Confirmed:* Lee Jin Geun was the bully during the bully scene when they were kids.* Lee Jin Geun was the bully…
Yes, that is correct. But it still doesn't answer the question, "who is she?"
As of episode 8, the plot has turned into a story about kids in the same class in the same town.
Cha Jin Hoo is out of the picture, he was just another chef who happened to have ties with Gye Hoon and is a business partner. He's like an "extra" in the story.
So, is Hwang Min Jo and Lee Eun Jung written-off similarly to Cha Jin Hoo?
I'd like to think not, hence the question, "who are they?"
Oh Yeon Seo looks very similar to another actor, even her acting, facial expressions, movements, but I can't quite place who it was.
I checked her profile here in MDL and in Wikipedia and I haven't seen any of her past shows/films, so at least that I'm sure she looks and acts similarly to another actor.
> maybe Noh Da Hyun took his sister with her in context of playing or something and she got trappedPossible. Noh…
Ooooh, good eye! Yeah, that opening sequence is indeed telling. Good point, they were probably kidnapped together and tried to escape, and that's when something happened. (Maybe Gye Young fell?)
Yep, the preview is also surprising, she started to feel Gye Hoon. Gye Young did not feel his brother's emotion … but Da Hyun can.
Looks like they are finally going to reveal another clue as to how the Link works.
I should definitely stop making theories because none of them are right apparently 😂Litterally, how did I not…
> I should definitely stop making theories because none of them are right apparently 😂
Same haha.
But still, that's what makes this TV series fun. The writer is doing well in leading us to analyze the show but in reality we are too far off.
The only danger there is … the longer they do this, the higher the expectation will be. If they can't meet that, audiences will be dissatisfied.
But I think there are some things that are starting to make sense because there are less possibilities we can consider.
For example, someone mentioned that maybe Da Hyun and Gye Young were playing somewhere and that's what Lee Jin Geun saw.
If that's the case, and Jin Geun also revealed that Gye Young was injured, it would mean that she got into an accident.
Maybe: * Da Hyun and Gye Young were playing, or * Da Hyun was the cause of the accident. Or, * Jin Geun was harassing Da Hyun again and Gye Young saw them and came to her rescue … and she got into an accident.
Da Hyun's parents tried to save Gye Young. But since they were new in the town, they kept it quiet. A few days later, Gye Young died. (It was also probably the same year her parents got divorced.)
This caused Da Hyun to enter trauma mode and her brain sealed those memories. (But she still is self-blaming.)
The shaman said, "2 people were involved". Da Hyun's mother and grandma? Instead of bringing her to the hospital, they tried to save her themselves. And when she died, they buried her.
Not coming to the police actually will lead to much more severe problems and sentences irl, especially if you…
It depends on which country you are.
In most Asian countries, there are no cases for not reporting something especially if it was justified and/or self-defense and/or no one died and/or the "victim" doesn't file a case.
Also, if we're going to talk about IRL, if we analyze the character of Da Hyun: - as a kid: she had very low self esteem -- which led to being alone, too shy, and getting bullied - her having a very low self-esteem could mean that she had a bad experience prior to them moving to the town (and her moving to a new school); we're in episode 8 and not once was her father mentioned; all we know was her mother divorced her father. - she may have overcame her low self-esteem but she did not overcome the things that came with it: one such is self-blaming. This probably was not only because of her self-esteem but because of whatever she experienced with her father -- which shaped the way she thinks.
So, on Da Hyun's side, we can't really blame her for keeping mum about it. She grew up with a mindset of "if something bad happens to other people, it's her fault".
Which led me to suspect (thanks to another comment who hinted at it), after episode 8, that maybe Da Hyun witnessed an accident involving Gye Young, and days later when Gye Young died, it drove her to extreme trauma which led to her not remembering anything.
If that assumption is correct and she later remembers … and her and Gye Hoon is finally getting somewhere … it will devastate her and might drive her mad. This time, as an adult, she'll be fighting her own brain from sealing the memory again.
She's smiling today, as an adult, because she can't remember her childhood, especially the traumatic memories. But she hasn't completely overcame some things, like self-blaming.
OMG, what is this drama 😂😂😂🤣🤣, I was literally laughing when both of them were fighting and policeman…
> maybe Noh Da Hyun took his sister with her in context of playing or something and she got trapped
Possible. Noh Da Hyun not remembering anything is suspicious. Something traumatic happened for her brain to seal those memories. Usually, for a young kid, it's witnessing a gruesome scene and/or death.
Da Hyun's parents also prefer she doesn't remember anything. It means it was a very devastating and gruesome memory.
Also, in episode 1 or 2, during the flashbacks, Da Hyun's parents were already being suspicious during the "search". In fact, I've been suspecting them as the kidnappers / killers since then. But maybe, there was an accident.
The Eun Gye Hoon's Link was not severed until after Eun Gye Young's death (at least the assumption that she died). It would mean that, if Da Hyun and her parents were involved, they tried to save Gye Young but days (or weeks) later she still died.
While Da Hyun probably even got more traumatized after Gye Young's death.
Hmm… considering how adult Da Hyun kept blaming herself for "killing" someone even though it was [1] self-defense; and [2] she did not know what exactly happened after she lost consciousness; she probably thought the same thing, blamed herself for the death of Gye Young.
One more thing. Da Hyun had a very low esteem when she was kid. She kept to herself. - Usually, people with low esteem are like that because their parents were … to make it short, gave them a very bad experience. - Or, they were bullied. Which Da Hyun was bullied (again??) after transferring to a new school.
Few people get over their low esteem, and if they do, more often than not they go overboard, getting too much high esteem. In Da Hyun's case, she seemed to have overcame that. But her tendency to self blame is still there, possibly a by product of her low-esteem and whatever she experienced when she was a kid (for example: they never talked about her father … something is suspicious there).
Confirmed: * Lee Jin Geun was the bully during the bully scene when they were kids. * Lee Jin Geun was the bully Eun Gye Young punched. * Lee Jin Geun was the bully Eun Gye Hoon fought after he saw Gye Young and Jin Geun embroiled. * Ji Won Tak's original name was Han Se Jin, the son of the Piano teacher Han Ui Chan.
Still a big question: * Who was Hwang Min Jo? * Who was Lee Eun Jung and is it her real name or just an assumed name to pretend Lee Jin Geun is her brother? * Are these two like Cha Jin Hoo? They have no connection to the town?
Here's another possibility.Remember the bully fight scene?Confirmed:* Noh Da Hyun was the girl who was cornered…
* Lee Jin Geun was the bully? Probably the bully Eun Gye Young punched?
* If it was him, then it explains why he cornered Da Hyun, he was already obsessed with her. Which would also explain what he meant in Episode 7 that they first met in their neighbourhood.
* Later, Lee Jin Geun and his father, probably kidnapped Eun Gye Young, as some sort of revenge.
* As a kid, Gye Young was too afraid. At this point, she relied on her brother for protection. She was brave because she knew her brother will find her because he can feel her.
* But the Link was severed between Gye Hoon and Gye Young. Probably she got into an accident or there is a distance limit (if they go way too far from each other, the Link will be broken permanently).
* Gye Young was eventually re-registered as adopted by her kidnappers as Lee Eun Jung.
* She learned to defend herself.
* She probably killed Lee Jin Geun's father.
* Jin Geun knew about it so he's blackmailing her to silence. But also fled because he's probably afraid of her too (I mean, if she killed your father and you know the reason why … you'll know she's also after you).
* They stayed in contact because of some agreement (because they're holding each other's secret), or because they just hate each other soo much that they are teasing and pissing each other of.
* So when Jin Geun suddenly stopped contacting her, she started to find him.
* She was crying so hard probably not because Jin Geun is her "brother" but because she's pissed she was not the one who killed him.
* Then in Episode 7, Da Hyun sent a text message how Jin Geun is back and is threatening to kill all of them, especially Gye Hoon.
* If Eun Jung is Gye Young, and she knows her real identity, it would explain why she rushed back to the restaurant … it was to protect Gye Hoon.
* Then when Jin Geun showed up, her automatic reaction was to kill him.
Confirmed: * Noh Da Hyun was the girl who was cornered by the bullies. * Eun Gye Young saw them and defended her. * Eun Gye Young was brave enough to strike first. * Eun Gye Hoon saw them and joined the fight.
I think they should close the chapter of stalker now, its episode 7 now and we are still stuck there, the past…
They can't. After they revealed that Jin Geun also grew up in the same neighborhood, it is now clear that the disappearance of Eun Gye Young has something to do with everyone in that neighborhood.
I wouldn't be surprised if the answers to the many questions about Gye Young's disappearance is tied closely to Jin Geun.
If Eun Jung is Gye Hoon, Jin Geun and his father probably kidnapped her and threatened her they will kill his brother and parents if she so showed herself, contact them, or run away. So all her life, she kept quiet about it.
Her crying over her "brother" was is starting to appear it was not because he is her brother but because there is animosity between them.
That text she received from Noh Da Hyun was probably about how her brother is threatening all of them, including Gye Hoon. This prompted her to run to the restaurant because she probably knew her real identity.
Then the moment Jin Geun showed up, her only reaction was to finish what they stared by killing him. I wouldn't be surprised if this "Lee Eun Jung" killed Jin Geun's father and Jin Geun is using that to blackmail her to submission.
But when she learned Jin Geun is targeting Gye Hoon, all bets are off, she must kill him no matter what.
Also noticed how Jin Geun reacted when he figured out who Gye Hoon is? It was not an ordinary "oh, he was that Gye Hoon from we were kids", it was a reaction of an even intense hatred. He was probably one of the bullies Gye Young, Gye Hoon, and Da Hyun, had beaten.
Remember that bully fight scene? That scene came out a lot in the early episodes. Jin Geun probably was one of those bullies and was already obsessed with Da Hyun (the one being bullied) which was rescued by Gye Young, and later Gye Hoon.
Episode 7: OOooh, that is an interesting twist: Lee Eun Jung and Lee Jin Geun.
I think someone got it right, there is animosity between them.
Two questions now: 1. Are they blood siblings, step-siblings, or adopted siblings? Or, 2. Were they married or had a past relationship or relatives?
While it is true that in South Korea women doesn't change their legal family name when they get married, "Lee" is one of the most common family name in SoKor and so it is not impossible for two distantly (and probably not even related at all) to get married. Hence, they share the same surname. So there is a possibility they are married or were married.
But there is another question: * Now that Lee Jin Geun's history was revealed, that he himself grew up in the same neighborhood, is Lee Eun Jung the same?
On Lee Eun Jung's identity: I still suspect she's Eun Gye Young however, I'm now suspecting she was not crying because their Link was severed. She was probably crying because she wants to kill him herself, a revenge about something.
Or, what if … Lee Eun Jung knows her real identity as Eun Gye Young? What if, that hatred towards Lee Jin Geun was because of whatever happened when they were kids?
And she can not do anything about it back then because she was threatened, maybe Lee Jin Geun or his father, told her they'll kill his previous twin brother and parents if she contacts them and tell them she's alive?
The only way to get revenge for her silence is to … well … kill Lee Jin Geun herself. She probably kills his father too, and Jin Geun probably knew about it so he's using it keep her under control.
But because Jin Geun is now threatening to kill Eun Gye Hoon, she took action and finally got the courage to kill Jin Geun.
Haha, I love how this show is keeping things under lid. We can speculate in different directions.
But I still don't like how they are not dropping clues about the mechanics behind the Link. I guess if they do, it will make it easy to figure out the plot.
It was a huge gamble for Netflix to have chosen a remake/reboot instead of a spin-off/revival (see my original comment: https://mydramalist.com/62541-money-heist#comment-10329405 ). It did not work for South Koreans, and for most of those who've watched the original.
As I also mentioned in my original comment, I haven't watched the original and yet I'm not impressed with the Korean adaptation. The only reason I'll watch Season 1 Part 2 is because I'm waiting for the plot twist through the introduction of "Seoul". If I've seen the original, more likely than not I won't continue this like the others.
If I were them, I'll edit Season 1 Part 2 and add scenes to connect MH Korea with the original MH. Maybe, just maybe, it will salvage half of those who dropped the show and rated it low.
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As of episode 8, the plot has turned into a story about kids in the same class in the same town.
Cha Jin Hoo is out of the picture, he was just another chef who happened to have ties with Gye Hoon and is a business partner. He's like an "extra" in the story.
So, is Hwang Min Jo and Lee Eun Jung written-off similarly to Cha Jin Hoo?
I'd like to think not, hence the question, "who are they?"
^_^
I checked her profile here in MDL and in Wikipedia and I haven't seen any of her past shows/films, so at least that I'm sure she looks and acts similarly to another actor.
Anyone have an idea?
Yep, the preview is also surprising, she started to feel Gye Hoon. Gye Young did not feel his brother's emotion … but Da Hyun can.
Looks like they are finally going to reveal another clue as to how the Link works.
Same haha.
But still, that's what makes this TV series fun. The writer is doing well in leading us to analyze the show but in reality we are too far off.
The only danger there is … the longer they do this, the higher the expectation will be. If they can't meet that, audiences will be dissatisfied.
But I think there are some things that are starting to make sense because there are less possibilities we can consider.
For example, someone mentioned that maybe Da Hyun and Gye Young were playing somewhere and that's what Lee Jin Geun saw.
If that's the case, and Jin Geun also revealed that Gye Young was injured, it would mean that she got into an accident.
Maybe:
* Da Hyun and Gye Young were playing, or
* Da Hyun was the cause of the accident. Or,
* Jin Geun was harassing Da Hyun again and Gye Young saw them and came to her rescue … and she got into an accident.
Da Hyun's parents tried to save Gye Young. But since they were new in the town, they kept it quiet. A few days later, Gye Young died. (It was also probably the same year her parents got divorced.)
This caused Da Hyun to enter trauma mode and her brain sealed those memories. (But she still is self-blaming.)
The shaman said, "2 people were involved". Da Hyun's mother and grandma? Instead of bringing her to the hospital, they tried to save her themselves. And when she died, they buried her.
- Cha Jin Hoo, the asst Chef of Eun Gye Hoon, who has no connections to the town other than Gye Hoon.
In most Asian countries, there are no cases for not reporting something especially if it was justified and/or self-defense and/or no one died and/or the "victim" doesn't file a case.
Also, if we're going to talk about IRL, if we analyze the character of Da Hyun:
- as a kid: she had very low self esteem -- which led to being alone, too shy, and getting bullied
- her having a very low self-esteem could mean that she had a bad experience prior to them moving to the town (and her moving to a new school); we're in episode 8 and not once was her father mentioned; all we know was her mother divorced her father.
- she may have overcame her low self-esteem but she did not overcome the things that came with it: one such is self-blaming. This probably was not only because of her self-esteem but because of whatever she experienced with her father -- which shaped the way she thinks.
So, on Da Hyun's side, we can't really blame her for keeping mum about it. She grew up with a mindset of "if something bad happens to other people, it's her fault".
Which led me to suspect (thanks to another comment who hinted at it), after episode 8, that maybe Da Hyun witnessed an accident involving Gye Young, and days later when Gye Young died, it drove her to extreme trauma which led to her not remembering anything.
If that assumption is correct and she later remembers … and her and Gye Hoon is finally getting somewhere … it will devastate her and might drive her mad. This time, as an adult, she'll be fighting her own brain from sealing the memory again.
She's smiling today, as an adult, because she can't remember her childhood, especially the traumatic memories. But she hasn't completely overcame some things, like self-blaming.
Possible. Noh Da Hyun not remembering anything is suspicious. Something traumatic happened for her brain to seal those memories. Usually, for a young kid, it's witnessing a gruesome scene and/or death.
Da Hyun's parents also prefer she doesn't remember anything. It means it was a very devastating and gruesome memory.
Also, in episode 1 or 2, during the flashbacks, Da Hyun's parents were already being suspicious during the "search". In fact, I've been suspecting them as the kidnappers / killers since then. But maybe, there was an accident.
The Eun Gye Hoon's Link was not severed until after Eun Gye Young's death (at least the assumption that she died). It would mean that, if Da Hyun and her parents were involved, they tried to save Gye Young but days (or weeks) later she still died.
While Da Hyun probably even got more traumatized after Gye Young's death.
Hmm… considering how adult Da Hyun kept blaming herself for "killing" someone even though it was [1] self-defense; and [2] she did not know what exactly happened after she lost consciousness; she probably thought the same thing, blamed herself for the death of Gye Young.
One more thing. Da Hyun had a very low esteem when she was kid. She kept to herself.
- Usually, people with low esteem are like that because their parents were … to make it short, gave them a very bad experience.
- Or, they were bullied. Which Da Hyun was bullied (again??) after transferring to a new school.
Few people get over their low esteem, and if they do, more often than not they go overboard, getting too much high esteem. In Da Hyun's case, she seemed to have overcame that. But her tendency to self blame is still there, possibly a by product of her low-esteem and whatever she experienced when she was a kid (for example: they never talked about her father … something is suspicious there).
* Lee Jin Geun was the bully during the bully scene when they were kids.
* Lee Jin Geun was the bully Eun Gye Young punched.
* Lee Jin Geun was the bully Eun Gye Hoon fought after he saw Gye Young and Jin Geun embroiled.
* Ji Won Tak's original name was Han Se Jin, the son of the Piano teacher Han Ui Chan.
Still a big question:
* Who was Hwang Min Jo?
* Who was Lee Eun Jung and is it her real name or just an assumed name to pretend Lee Jin Geun is her brother?
* Are these two like Cha Jin Hoo? They have no connection to the town?
She looks very different in here. It's her hair I guess, lols.
* If it was him, then it explains why he cornered Da Hyun, he was already obsessed with her. Which would also explain what he meant in Episode 7 that they first met in their neighbourhood.
* Later, Lee Jin Geun and his father, probably kidnapped Eun Gye Young, as some sort of revenge.
* As a kid, Gye Young was too afraid. At this point, she relied on her brother for protection. She was brave because she knew her brother will find her because he can feel her.
* But the Link was severed between Gye Hoon and Gye Young. Probably she got into an accident or there is a distance limit (if they go way too far from each other, the Link will be broken permanently).
* Gye Young was eventually re-registered as adopted by her kidnappers as Lee Eun Jung.
* She learned to defend herself.
* She probably killed Lee Jin Geun's father.
* Jin Geun knew about it so he's blackmailing her to silence. But also fled because he's probably afraid of her too (I mean, if she killed your father and you know the reason why … you'll know she's also after you).
* They stayed in contact because of some agreement (because they're holding each other's secret), or because they just hate each other soo much that they are teasing and pissing each other of.
* So when Jin Geun suddenly stopped contacting her, she started to find him.
* She was crying so hard probably not because Jin Geun is her "brother" but because she's pissed she was not the one who killed him.
* Then in Episode 7, Da Hyun sent a text message how Jin Geun is back and is threatening to kill all of them, especially Gye Hoon.
* If Eun Jung is Gye Young, and she knows her real identity, it would explain why she rushed back to the restaurant … it was to protect Gye Hoon.
* Then when Jin Geun showed up, her automatic reaction was to kill him.
Remember the bully fight scene?
Confirmed:
* Noh Da Hyun was the girl who was cornered by the bullies.
* Eun Gye Young saw them and defended her.
* Eun Gye Young was brave enough to strike first.
* Eun Gye Hoon saw them and joined the fight.
We never saw the aftermath of that.
What if: (see hidden reply)
I wouldn't be surprised if the answers to the many questions about Gye Young's disappearance is tied closely to Jin Geun.
If Eun Jung is Gye Hoon, Jin Geun and his father probably kidnapped her and threatened her they will kill his brother and parents if she so showed herself, contact them, or run away. So all her life, she kept quiet about it.
Her crying over her "brother" was is starting to appear it was not because he is her brother but because there is animosity between them.
That text she received from Noh Da Hyun was probably about how her brother is threatening all of them, including Gye Hoon. This prompted her to run to the restaurant because she probably knew her real identity.
Then the moment Jin Geun showed up, her only reaction was to finish what they stared by killing him. I wouldn't be surprised if this "Lee Eun Jung" killed Jin Geun's father and Jin Geun is using that to blackmail her to submission.
But when she learned Jin Geun is targeting Gye Hoon, all bets are off, she must kill him no matter what.
Also noticed how Jin Geun reacted when he figured out who Gye Hoon is? It was not an ordinary "oh, he was that Gye Hoon from we were kids", it was a reaction of an even intense hatred. He was probably one of the bullies Gye Young, Gye Hoon, and Da Hyun, had beaten.
Remember that bully fight scene? That scene came out a lot in the early episodes. Jin Geun probably was one of those bullies and was already obsessed with Da Hyun (the one being bullied) which was rescued by Gye Young, and later Gye Hoon.
Two questions now:
1. Are they blood siblings, step-siblings, or adopted siblings? Or,
2. Were they married or had a past relationship or relatives?
While it is true that in South Korea women doesn't change their legal family name when they get married, "Lee" is one of the most common family name in SoKor and so it is not impossible for two distantly (and probably not even related at all) to get married. Hence, they share the same surname. So there is a possibility they are married or were married.
But there is another question:
* Now that Lee Jin Geun's history was revealed, that he himself grew up in the same neighborhood, is Lee Eun Jung the same?
On Lee Eun Jung's identity: I still suspect she's Eun Gye Young however, I'm now suspecting she was not crying because their Link was severed. She was probably crying because she wants to kill him herself, a revenge about something.
Or, what if … Lee Eun Jung knows her real identity as Eun Gye Young? What if, that hatred towards Lee Jin Geun was because of whatever happened when they were kids?
And she can not do anything about it back then because she was threatened, maybe Lee Jin Geun or his father, told her they'll kill his previous twin brother and parents if she contacts them and tell them she's alive?
The only way to get revenge for her silence is to … well … kill Lee Jin Geun herself. She probably kills his father too, and Jin Geun probably knew about it so he's using it keep her under control.
But because Jin Geun is now threatening to kill Eun Gye Hoon, she took action and finally got the courage to kill Jin Geun.
Haha, I love how this show is keeping things under lid. We can speculate in different directions.
But I still don't like how they are not dropping clues about the mechanics behind the Link. I guess if they do, it will make it easy to figure out the plot.
It was a huge gamble for Netflix to have chosen a remake/reboot instead of a spin-off/revival (see my original comment: https://mydramalist.com/62541-money-heist#comment-10329405 ). It did not work for South Koreans, and for most of those who've watched the original.
As I also mentioned in my original comment, I haven't watched the original and yet I'm not impressed with the Korean adaptation. The only reason I'll watch Season 1 Part 2 is because I'm waiting for the plot twist through the introduction of "Seoul". If I've seen the original, more likely than not I won't continue this like the others.
If I were them, I'll edit Season 1 Part 2 and add scenes to connect MH Korea with the original MH. Maybe, just maybe, it will salvage half of those who dropped the show and rated it low.