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I appreciate the long explanation, but I think you’re addressing a conversation I’m not actually having.
“There are always unhinged comments, just ignore them.”
Sure except the point isn’t that they exist. It’s that people are actively defending and sexualising abusive behaviour and then attacking anyone who says, “Hey, this is messed up.”
That’s not simply “unhinged comments.” That’s a pattern.

“As long as your morals are fine in real life, fiction can turn to ashes.”
Absolutely, but again, no one here is policing fiction. I’m pointing out how people talk about the fiction. Saying abuse is “hot” and shaming people who are uncomfortable with it isn’t the harmless escapism you’re painting it as.

Trigger warnings don’t excuse fandom behaviour.
A trigger warning is there so viewers can prepare themselves.
It doesn’t magically turn violent scenes into something acceptable to romanticise, nor does it protect the community from criticism when they do so.

“We were warned we won’t like the ML.”
Right and I don’t. That’s fine.
What isn’t fine is people treating his behaviour like a kink and then acting superior to anyone who isn’t into it.

“This is just fiction; real-life DV is tragic.”
Exactly, which is why it’s bizarre to watch people defend the exact behaviour they admit is abuse. The contradiction is the issue.

The condescending mental health PSA.
I promise I don’t need a wellness check because I pointed out a disturbing trend in the comment section. I’m perfectly capable of consuming dark fiction without losing my moral compass — which is precisely why I can call out the weird romanticisation happening here.

I’m not confused about the plot. I’m not confusing fiction with reality.
I’m simply calling out the fandom discourse and that part does matter.
If people are allowed to express bizarre takes openly, I’m equally allowed to call those takes out. Ignoring things is an option for all of us, not only the people who romanticise the behaviour.
My issue is very specific: not the show, not fiction, but the reaction people are having to it.
And if that reaction is fair game to defend, then it’s also fair game to criticise.
That’s all I was doing.
i hope this helps!☺️

If your logic is that “any fictional non-con is morally neutral because some people enjoy that kink,” then you’re essentially saying no fictional act can ever be questioned, no matter how harmful or exploitative it is. But that collapses immediately, because society clearly recognizes that some depictions, especially involving people who cannot consent carry moral weight even in fiction. R in any universe is not hot, not in fantasy, not in storytelling, and certainly not when it’s framed as romance. And bringing up non-con or dub-con kink enjoyers is completely irrelevant here, because those kinks rely on consensual fantasy spaces with boundaries, not on applauding an untagged assault scene in a mainstream show. The issue isn’t that people have dark fantasies; the issue is pretending that all fantasies are automatically beyond moral scrutiny. That argument doesn’t protect kink culture, it erases the ethical boundaries that exist for a reason.

*Trigger warning* sensitive topics mentioned below;
If someone enjoys and is excited over murder scenes, women being violated scenes, dv scenes, animals being killed scenes, cp scenes, it doesn’t reflect their morality at all? The og comment was implying people finding literal assault, hot. Does fiction blur these lines to consider this doesn’t reflect morality?

Nobody is attacking people who explore non-con or dub-con as private kinks. A non-con or dub-con kink is something explored in a controlled, consensual environment, either through tagged fiction, roleplay, or explicit fantasy spaces. Everyone involved is aware, consenting, and choosing it. Calling a random depiction of assault “hot” in a general audience show is none of those things. A non-con kink means you like the fantasy, not actual harm. It does not mean seeing an unconscious person being violated and saying “this is romantic and cute.” That’s not kink, that’s normalization.

People aren’t saying viewers “need help” for having dark tastes. They’re reacting to others praising molestation like it’s sexy. That’s a very different thing. Fiction doesn’t make you immoral, but defending the romanticization of assault while mocking those who are uncomfortable does raise ethical questions.

BL already has a long history of smoothing over coercion and calling it love. So when a scene of assault plays and the comments romanticize it, that’s not harmless fantasy, it’s part of a much larger trend where violence against queer men gets rewritten as passion. Pointing out that pattern isn’t being “morally uptight.” It’s being socially aware. Private kink ≠ moral issue. Publicly romanticizing assault in a mainstream story = moral issue. If someone says “molestation is hot,” that’s not just a kink,
it’s a sign that they’re unbothered by violence being inserted into romance narratives.
That lack of discomfort is morally relevant. Survivors, queer men, and viewers sensitive to assault see those comments and feel dismissed, unsafe, or retraumatized. Morality includes how your reactions affect real people.

It’s not about demonizing kink. It’s about recognizing the difference between consensual fantasy and media that normalizes harm. And calling that out isn’t a personal attack.

You have not read the comments then. People are not only romanticsing it byt are also attacking others for not finding it hot or criticising this behaviour. I was totally baffled by it.

This is what is happening in bl manhwa community. It has been so normalised that people are now defending atrocious prison time behaviour saying this is how “omegaverse”/“bl” works and that is so sad. “Healthy” relationships are now deemed boring and many people are being desensitised to r scenes in bl.

Fan xiao should be in JAIL. Are we seriously romanticising his actions 😭

its being sadly normalised in bl genre because the victim is a man

zhen zhen is getting on my nerves

Phopthorn is better than me. Dancing with your ex infront of your fiancé and getting praised for it….. is diabolical lmao. All the hell would break lose if it were me or apo in that situation.

Taking a queer story and straight-washing it to appeal to the homophobes - completely understandable and not at all unhinged. That’s the norm.
People “complaining” that their favourite manhwa adaptation has been completely ruined. Expecting a queer story where main characters who are queer to get more screen time than the straight characters - unhinged behaviour ew.

I was talking about the wig he tries to hide long hair with

The acting in ep 6 threw me off. I cannot see frustration or sadness in ice’s face. The acting is non existent.

Tong was pissing me off the whole ep. If that is his true self and he is not possessed, I don’t wanna see any redemption arc or happy ending for that character.

I support you

I am hoping for a miracle. If the ban is lifted they will surely set a new standard for bls

chinese bls are something else. If the ban is lifted, they can make shit ton of money off of this industry

😭cheating trope pisses me tf offfffffff ugh. The chemistry between the main leads is insane so i will have to keep watching with a closed fist and broken screen

Employed rich man on a random Tuesday: Lets steal someone’s lover hehe 😜

I would have sent aran on his way and went right back that washroom to volunteer as a tribute. For 10 million? Hell yeah.

Mr. Singha will be removed from the case if he keeps acting on his personal interest in public 😂