enigmatic_zephy

that crazy guy has been following Baek Ah Jin since she became a brand ambassador of hsi brand

remember the whole - dating IK phase, traveling.. and one with hadere brand tote bag?... crazy guy owns that brand

1. To me it didn't sound jealous at all. More like "Who the hell are you to question me". And, she was pissed off because the way Junseo approached her with that accusatory tone.. she felt she is being watched like a hawk and how after all these years.. Junseo still thinks of her as an evil person incapable of emotions.. despite her being happy and trying so hard to be normal with her family is still being taunted by Junseo... I FELT ANGRY too.. so i felt director did want to drive that tone


2. well, junseo has ways of keeping track of things and he does claim to read AJ's expressions. IMO weak point in Junseo's defense

3. but that's the thing. He has decided she is bad and views her from that lens. He thinks only when he orchestrates what he thinks is a normal life with a person of his choice can BAJ be normal. She was already normal here... overall, the point of ep 7 and 8 was to show that BAJ sees Junseo as a person who is with her because of his guilt, some attraction.. but mostly, in his heart, he thinks of BAJ as a bad person - capable of murder and basically not human at all.. he is compelled by his guilt .. not by genuine love and care motivating him to give second chances to BAJ


4. From junseo's perspective there is nothing wrong.. but from BAJ it comes across as equating her entire suffering to a mere "sorry".. it is just clash of perspectives.. Junseo is desperate to lessen his guilt and he does what he thinks is right for BAJ (but a 3rd party observer and a victim will not have the same definition of what is right with respect to the abuser)

yea.. we have quite a lot of lose canons out there..

we have that police officer too right? the reporter, bully girl, lena, agency director now (i doubt she will be targeted but never know), crazy new guy, and i want BAJ to target Junseo and Junseo's mom too

precisely. This drama direction,e diting wise is quite solid

So when that entire sequence of events makes you feel differently , you know director is doing that on purpose... enough hints laid out.. he would have left a note for his brother and apologizing to grandmom if it were really a suicide

Ep 7-8 actually showed more of Junseo's character.

1. Him pressing her for breakup with INK.. and for one reason. He immediately assumed that BAJ is going to hurt INK and was getting jittery with every second she spent with INK (because he did not know what she is planning and could not control scenarios)... blatant case of assuming worst of her..


2. She was actually living a normal life with IK's family but Junseo could not see it.. and this she called out later when she asked him what does it mean to be normal human (because when she was normal human living happily, Junseo still saw a demon hanging out with a normal family)


3. Assuming the worst when he went interrogating her in the car.. and then again with INK

4. Oh.. sending him mom.. as if someone apologizing will undo her years of abuse and pain.. more so from a woman who is doing this just to get her monthly allowance

Three things:
1. Truth about BAJ is pretty blatant in ep 7, without even going to ep 8
2. Junseo never was and never will be THE PERSON for BAJ
3. INK DID NOT commit suicide but was murdered

Here's why

1. On BAJ and main theme of ep 7 and 8

a. BAJ's modus operandi:
i. She does not get her hand dirty and prefers manipulation
ii. It takes her a LOT, LOT of abuse to actually think of killing someone. Even then she is methodical and plans for days.
iii. It took her utter hopelessness and see her 18 yrs of effort (academics, model student while facing severe abuse and stress as a child) shatter to actually take a step against her dad
b. Theme of Ep 7 with respect to BAJ
i. When granny cared for her while she was unwell, she was TOUCHED. Motherly love that she never felt (same as café owner from whom she took permission in her own way by checking if he will regret doing something for the right cause) made her not break up with INK and she continued beyond year 1
ii. BAJ's tears at hospital. No one was watching her. Acting is beautifully subtle to , personally that scene confirmed what BAJ felt about granny without going into ep 8
iii. CONSISTENT PATTERN - When she met Junseo's mom and junseo for the 1st time, she really tried to put her best foot forward. She was really looking forward to having a mom!
iv. She craves motherly love and true care. She wants to be loved
c. Theme of EP8 - Characterizations.. Who is Junseo to BAJ
i. BAJ craves true care and she has KNOWN all along that Junseo doesn't see that in her. He is convinced that she is bad, so she truly uses him while marveling how his guilt allows him to be loyal to her
ii. Vs. Jaeho - he also doesn't see good in her (he knows she is bad news) but DOES NOT JUDGE her for that
iii. INK had also clocked her for a manipulative person
iv. EXCEPT Grandma!.. 1st person to show her the confidence that she is a good person underneath. So, did the café owner by telling her that he wants to be that right adult in her life… and despite her words, you can see she is touched
v. Some phenomenal acting from YJ ( Ep 7 and 8 define it… Ep 1-6 was normal actually.. Any decent actress would be able to pull the emotional complexity of ep 1-6.. But 7-8 r masterpieces)
d. Some other things
i. I think meeting director on road was not planned but Junseo never thinks better of BAJ
ii. She actually wanted to give clean breakup to INK by being stoic and with her harsh words. If he could hate her, pain of breakup will be less and he may be able to move on (on back of hatred or revenge)
iii. She genuinely was hurt and pretending to be unaffected is her defense mechanism




2. Junseo never was, never will be the IT person for her
a. In her time of mourning, Junseo blamed her, assumed the worst of her in both deaths
b. Sending his mother to apologize and trivialize her pain (from BAJ's perspective) was such a slap on her face - reinforcing that I never thought good of you
c. Agency director is after BAJ now; Mom is shameless as ever and BAJ's true descent indeed happened on hands of Junseo's mom and BAJ's dad
d. More hynaes after her - she is feeling weak (police guy, reporter, lena, old school bully girl)
e. The moment when Junseo went to her place and she was doing yoga.. Then she cried hugging him and asked him to run away = SUCH LAYERED PERFORMANCE because in this moment BAJ is feeling 3 different emotions at the same time - a) she is angry that he is accusing her and validating her fears about him that he never sees her as a human but just his guilt personified in her. No true love/care b) She is taunting him to run away and do what he can c) She is vulnerable and scared and really want him to run away and save himself from her because anyone she likes ends up getting hurt/dead





3. IK is murdered
a. We saw him throwing liquor, meds etc and he was not sad. we saw BAJ curing him of his main depression point regarding his bandmate. don't think he bought that BAJ killed grandma. His brother and agency director were constantly checking up on him.. So he was not ALONE
b. Method of death… you would actually intoxicate yourself to be able to get through with the process.. Unlike other ways of doing this in a non-intoxicated manner
c. It is weird that he would not and could not wait to pursue BAJ again- ask to rethink etc.. As it normally happens
d. Only, explanation is that he thought grandma died because of BAJ and he brought BAJ into the home… but it just doesn't fit from even IK's perspective
Drama is different from webtoon on many points. The setup to suicide in webtoon is believable but HERE sequence of events is not logical or remotely rational.

Totally guessed it right by end of ep 7...


Here's why

1. Drama has already shown us that despite such abuse, it took her a LOT - a complete hopelessness, 18 yrs of her effort put into academics, being model student and what not under that immense stress shatter... that's when she decided to take the step against her father... THEREIN too she didn't want to get her hand dirty


2. We saw, when grandmom cared for her while she was unwell... that's literally the reason why she never broke up .. continuing beyond yr1

3. Multiple times we have seen that she identifies the most logical and least risky way of solving things.. usually get sthg to threaten with and backoff or her forte- some kind of emotional manipulation

4. her tears at hospital

5. When she met Junseo's mom and junseo for the 1st time.. she really tried to put her best foot forward


It is obvious that mother's love or genuine care is what she yearns. Junseo is pseudo but Jaeho gives her the full comfort... and we see how she treats both differently. She KNOWS junseo has never seen a "good" person in her, neither has Jaeho.. but he doesn't judge her for that..

Grandmom was the 1st person who literally showed her confidence in BAJ. The death broke her. Meeting director was not planned but junseo took it for that...

She tried a clean break with INK by being stoic (that always works vs being sweet etc etc) and his death broke her...


And in her time of mourning.. Junseo blamed her, his mom made it worse, agency director is after her, all hynaes coming at her!

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Also, i am going to BET that IK did not commit suicide.. he was killed! .. We saw him throwing liquor, meds etc.. we saw BAJ curing him of his main depression point regarding his bandmate... don't think he bought that BAJ killed grandma..

Drama is different from webtoon on many points. The setup to suicide in webtoon is believable... but HERE .. nah!.. literally no reason for him to commit self harm

Asset through and through.. throwing poision on everyone..

plus if that blue jewelled lady turns out to be the villain then you need someone to go against her on medical knowledge

Poision X Cure rounds

she is!!!

and how in love is the puppy..

she is so simple minded

1. ML- you didn't save me so i will hate you and kill you any chance i get and will shout and tell about it

2. Guard - oh, burnt arm, you save me.. i will follow you like a cute little puppy


i think she saw her mother do her deeds during that fire too... Mom is going to pay.. while peacock brother is going to get love from her because he truly cares

lol.. i thought master kept Cangcang as a threat to grand tutor because the medicine lady, who was almost burnt by ministers is master's real daughter


She said, her mom had her with a man.. and ministers rallied to kill her... man was clearly referred as an outsider.. so ghost king is a good enough for that

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Maybe master was forced to be ghost king and use the forbidden/tribe specific art of turning kids into zombies because grand tutor has master's daughter under his threat

yup

1. how is this drama
2. is it toxic , intense, passionate love?
3. or is it somewhat love in starting and then gets into usual politics, ML-FL working together to fight?

I would prefer a full on primary romance -dark, toxic, intense over the usual politics and sweet stuff

go princess kinds....FL's debut/early drama

overused trope.. lets see what really happens.. i think will link back to peach's fear of gunshot sound

peach's profile says he has a scar on his left shoulder..

exact same thing that Thee has

3 guesses that there is a childhood connection and probably peach saved thee or thee saved peach.. but it is weird that 2 people have same scar at the same spot.. friendship mark i guess..lol


Finally, Pond Phuwin seem to have a good director and a good drama. FUTS , We Are and NLMG were such dissappointments.

Jaeho is probably the only person Ahjin has any amount of real feelings for..

Junseo doesn't even know that Ahjin was demented even before they met and she is constantly looking at him as his ASSET

Big question is - given she literally doesn't feel anything for anyone... will she ever feel something for her child? or would a genetically sculpted sociopath not feel for her child too?

so much fun

In case you are wondering why Ahjin wanted jaeoh to delay Ink... that's because.. see below





She has clocked Inkang as someone vulnerable to motherly love as he lost his parents. He badly seeks and depends on a woman who can show that (like his grandma.. a girlfriend who is like a mom)


Hence, her goal was 1) to be there waiting for him when he is late (as moms do) 2) wrap that muffler around him (as moms do) 3) take him to a normal warm place to have hot food instead of fancy food at fancy restaurant which is all show and not cozy (as moms do)

Imagine, you returning home super late from office on a cold night but your mom is awake, who quickly gives you hot meal, had the hot water ready for you to refresh, had the room heated up, blanket on the bed = Remember Dok Sun with Taeki, Reply 1988

okk.. i thought you meant before starting the show that THAT SPECIFIC actor will be killed

Thing is,

based on the plot

Dear X should be called Manipulated

and

Manipulated should be called Dear X


This is another level of Made for Each Other Universe for the two dramas!

nope.. he said that because his friend gave him vitamin bottles when he visited last time and ML shared his plan..

those vitamin bottles had potassium which is what prison doctor said saved ML's life from rat poison because K delayed and bought him more time

but by that logic JCW will become not good looking and your logic will make it a FACT

which is weird