nby:
YCC:
There is also a possibility that she bit herself, out of fear or out of desperation? I know this is kind of far-fetched.
This is it. If you go back and watch the very first scene of the series, a lot of the things can be explained. While she is running from what supposedly are monkeys, the way they are portrayed is like it is an illusion that she created in her head. Then she walks in a courtyard that is completely abandoned, so it is almost certain all of the other people there are dead, then she locks herself in a room and is shown biting her hand and imagining monkeys trying to break in.
You were right! Thanks for pointing it out! It didn't occur to me to rewatch. Since it was the first scene, I guess most of us was too busy trying to figure out what was going on, what was going to happen. Because it was featured as a dream, we tend to pay more attention to what happened when she woke up.
I think that she has been all alone for the last three years and there were tutors who taught her and she remembered them. Otherwise how did she learn to stich, sword fight, cook etc. Complete diverangce from the novels. So like a train wreck I cant look away. I keep watching every episode to see what happens.
ReallyScary:
I think that she has been all alone for the last three years and there were tutors who taught her and she remembered them. Otherwise how did she learn to stich, sword fight, cook etc. Complete diverangce from the novels. So like a train wreck I cant look away. I keep watching every episode to see what happens.
I think she was not alone, although the drama may end up supporting such an implausible tale which would tax my strong suspension of disbelief just a bit too much.
She may have IMAGINED being alone and turned to imaginary helpers like her maid or master Zhu based on real people who may have died or left the mountain.
But actually living alone as a Robinson Crusoe up on a mountain through four seasons x3 (or 8?!!!) is not believable from a lone adolescent. Especially if she had no animal friend like Baloo or Bagheera to help and defend her against the villain monkeys, for her pulling a Mowgli ! (The idea that she feared monkeys because they symbolized deadly attackers is possible) . But being truly alone, she would have become totally socially unfit and raving crazy even after two seasons, or dead.
The guy who tried living alone "Into the Wild"(check that 2007 movie, based on true event) in Alaska ended up dead before winter started from mistaking a deadly plant although he had very much prepared his expedition over a few years. Only a few very lucky individuals survived alone in jungles after plane wrecks, but not for years. Here we are talking about a little girl of perhaps 13-15 who had only been living with maids and servants in a group with teachers and students before?
Yes, the story has now zilch to do with the novel, except retaining a few names. But up till now, despite the unkillable casualties, who pop up seemingly unscathed after dire knifings, the story is still watchable even if suspension of disbelief is needed. All thanks to Bai Lu and Cheng Lei's great chemistry in playing the married and loving pair of main characters.
@Frost_edelweissI agree suspension of disbelief is requirement for watching the drama at this stage. Perhaps Ye Li survived on the mountain through sheer madness! I agee with you that it is hard to survive on your own in the mountains but there is livable structure there on Lishan mountain which provides shelter from the elements. Think of Tarzan! Ye Li is the female Tarzan of Lishan mountain but with help :)
"All thanks to Bai Lu and Cheng Lei's great chemistry in playing the married and loving pair of main characters." Yup only still watching based on thier acting especially Bai Lu.
@mparthur "What exactly happened in the mountain?"Well the remaining scholars are dead and Ye Li was the only survivor. Everyone is waiting to see what exactly happened on the mountain. For certain it involved moneys at one point! I think there were two events that wiped out the people on Lishan mountain. The first one was the moneys probably transmitted some diseases or something and there was no help to be had from down the mountain. Looks like Ye Li was trying to get help. I feel that there is a second event that wiped everyone out one by one until only Ye Li was left. Episode 32 will revel more.
ReallyScary:
For certain it involved moneys at one point!
Personally, I doubt any monkeys are involved, beyond the ones in Ye Li's dissociative hallucinations. Prince Li was very clear about there being no monkeys on Li mountain, and I doubt they would've been introduced after he left. I'm pretty sure the bite marks on her arms were self-inflicted traumas, nothing to do with actual monkeys (even if macaques are not to be taken lightly).
Not sure what to make of the scene in Ep 6 where a masked Ye Li is fleeing through the smoke toward the troops surrounding Li mountain and is restrained by (also masked) disciples -- one of whom says
"Li! You can't leave. Never compromise with them."
Sounds more like Ye Li wants to negotatiate with troops who are trying to burn the Lishan academy out of the (inaccesible) mountain, rather than escape a plague of rabid monkeys.
Anyway, I don't know what happened (only on Ep 25), but my bet is that humans are responsible, not imaginary monkeys.
Thecla:
Not sure what to make of the scene in Ep 6 where a masked Ye Li is fleeing through the smoke toward the troops surrounding Li mountain and is restrained by (also masked) disciples -- one of whom says
"Li! You can't leave. Never compromise with them."
Sounds more like Ye Li wants to negotatiate with troops who are trying to burn the Lishan academy out of the (inaccesible) mountain, rather than escape a plague of rabid monkeys.
I agree with your statement think Queen mother had something to do with it. I feel the monkeys are part of the back story as Ye Li is scared of them, may juus be an association of monkeys in combination of a terrifying experience enough to cause trauma. It does not have to be rabid moneys! I remember the scene where she is bitting her arm and those are the scars she shows Yao. I am waiting for episode 32 only 42 mins until release! Be warned episode 30 and 31 keep the tissues handy!
I just finished the Lishan Academy arc (ep. 34) and it's kinda nice to have some our speculations get confirmed!
YCC:
There is also a possibility that she bit herself, out of fear or out of desperation? I know this is kind of far-fetched.
i'm just amazed at this! it never occurred to me the bite was actually hers!
i haven't finished everything yet. but it seemed like our notion on the monkey being the virus spreader is false :( and they are just statues! (i'm annoyed lol) but somehow it makes sense she developed hallucinations on monkeys so she would not go to the graves, where her trauma is the heaviest.
@ymynym right! Feel so cheated that all our theories were wrong! It was fun while it lasted!
ymynym:
I just finished the Lishan Academy arc (ep. 34) and it's kinda nice to have some our speculations get confirmed!
YCC:
There is also a possibility that she bit herself, out of fear or out of desperation? I know this is kind of far-fetched.
i'm just amazed at this! it never occurred to me the bite was actually hers!
i haven't finished everything yet. but it seemed like our notion on the monkey being the virus spreader is false :( and they are just statues! (i'm annoyed lol) but somehow it makes sense she developed hallucinations on monkeys so she would not go to the graves, where her trauma is the heaviest.
Thank you for starting this thread. It was fun while it lasted.
I really like that the monkeys turned out to be the three wise apes. Ye Li couldn't bear be reminded of the horrible way the disciples met their end. Yet, the Lishan Academy was also so preoccupied with not associating with evil, that they met their doom and pulled disciples with another opinion like Ye Li into death and isolation too. I wonder if they saw the epidemic as a convenient excuse to die out of guilt because everything went so wrong with the edict.
I don't think Ye Li surviving and picking up skills is particularly unbelievable. She had at least three years of training with the masters and then she was also on the mountain as a child. It was her second home long before all those disasters.
What I think is more eyebrow raising is the soldiers not noticing anything or no check-ups being required at all by the court.
Details
- Title: The First Jasmine
- Type: Drama
- Format: Standard Series
- Country: China
- Episodes: 40
- Aired: Jun 9, 2026 - Jun 28, 2026
- Aired On: Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday
- Original Network: Tencent Video
- Duration: 45 min.
- Genres: Historical, Romance, Drama
- Tags: Revenge, Trauma, Disability, Cunning Female Lead, Independent Female Lead, Smart Female Lead, Depression, Disabled Male Lead, Isolation, Treason
- Content Rating: 13+ - Teens 13 or older
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