just to add, it's not only the author who has no problem with this drama, it's the primary audience made up of…
"... would be people stating away from even writing bl in the first place"
What gay-erasing, bonkers-juice are you drinking? Boycotting a censored adaptation isn't a threat to future BL/gay works. People will write MORE BL/gay stories, to spite you
We want our BL/gay stories like we want our coffee, strong, hot, and unapologetically bold. Keep it real or keep it to yourselves. The demand for authenticity isn't gonna stop people from writing BL/gay stories. It’s gonna stop them from censoring those stories. No more censored kisses, no more "they're just friends"
The original work is "dude in me", the novel author got inspiration from that. Nothing is insulting the author's…
Who are we to care so much? We are concerned citizens, of course! We have a right to care. What kind of world do you live in? I refuse to live in a world where we can only care about things that the majority agrees on or cares about
I'm a free-thinking person, and I don't need the Korean general public's approval. They want to turn a blind eye to the censorship of gay content, and that's their problem. I'm not going to sit back and watch it happen
The author might have been pressured to agree with promises of fame and fortune. Or they might have been tired of arguing with the big bad company. Either way, we are here to stand up for the little censored guy. The author's approval doesn't make censorship any less disrespectful to the gay source material
You don't know what every single gay Korean thinks of the censored adaptation. Some are okay with it, some aren't. What if a poor gay Korean wanted to see a good BL and can't because it's censored? We're standing up for that person's right to enjoy BL, he might be too shy to speak up
"... did you even know this existed before the adaptation?"
Woah, what a reach. From the series' bad rating, to global catastrophe. Let me tell you, while I wholeheartedly…
"Hypersexuality is not the word you should be using, btw"
The term "hypersexuality" can apply to society as well as individuals. "Societal-sex-obsession-mania" doesn't roll off the tongue. "Hypersexuality" it is
"AIDS crisis in the West"
AIDS was a major issue. If it hadn’t been for people having "sex," we wouldn’t have had to deal with it in the first place
"Blaming the youth"
Tell kids to get off our lawns and put down their smartphones. The world would be a better place
" ... not like your orgasm count going up"
Something being part of the human condition doesn't make it good or desirable. Remember, the human condition includes things like blisters and ingrown toenails
A rise in orgasm count might not always correlate with a rise in carbon footprint, but it does increase the likelihood of sock stains and awkward post-sex pillow talk
"Welcome to humankind, the worst species on the planet as voted by the planet and almost every species dwelling on it ..."
I’m aware humanity’s crowning achievement is being the best at being the worst. I was pointing out the generational specializations of suckage
I don't have the stamina to read or respond to the rest of the comment
Woah, what a reach. From the series' bad rating, to global catastrophe. Let me tell you, while I wholeheartedly…
Our youngest generations are shaping society with their social media-powered hedge trimmers. They've used the internet to create a gnarly labyrinth of new-age patriarchy and pseudo-scientific beliefs
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Each successive generation carries on the harmful beliefs and behaviors of their forebears
I'm not optimistic about the situation. You're more than welcome to wait and see what actions they might take
I'm discovering an appreciation for stories set in the 20th century. "Uncle Samsik" is my latest find after watching "Chief Detective 1958"
It's strange that someone would pass up this drama because "there aren't any hot oppas in it." The cast is good-looking, and Ki Joo is a particularly lovely unnie
Woah, what a reach. From the series' bad rating, to global catastrophe. Let me tell you, while I wholeheartedly…
Every human, young or old, participates in the system that produces waste through daily activities and consumption patterns. The younger generations are the consumers with purchasing power, meaning their decisions influence the market, corporations, governments and, consequently, the environment
The current state of the world isn't only a product of the past; it's the result of ongoing bad decisions by humans of all ages
Woah, what a reach. From the series' bad rating, to global catastrophe. Let me tell you, while I wholeheartedly…
Today’s youth ditched valuable traditions for an ageist "out with the old, in with the new" mentality and a never-ending hunt for the latest trends. They left behind mountains of waste, misguided individualism, hypersexuality and moral decay
Wars and humanity are inseparable. Thanks to the younger generation's obsession with the superficial, you can bet your bottom dollar that there will be no shortage of new conflicts and divisions
exactly. that's what stinks about actors doing even 1 BL. everyone expects or demands that they keep doing them…
Wait, we're not owed anything? I've spent countless hours daydreaming about these actors. Sticking to BL is the least they could do to pay rent in my headspace!
BL fans aren't toxic! They are passionate and invested in the stories that they love
You believe that the more NSFW the content, the more "upgraded" it is. This liberal, modern obsession with on-screen…
What are you talking about? Do you have a PhD in jumping to conclusions and accusing people of being "someone else?" Too bad you've got the wrong person. You didn't put that detective work into checking your facts first
the manhwa featured two gay couples. swapping a gay couple for a "straight" one sidelines and reduces gay representation.…
They erased the second gay couple to make room for a straight storyline we didn't ask for
Chapters 50 to 89 cover the development of the second gay couple's relationship. That's a lot of content. They could have bidden farewell to the unnecessary straight storyline or extended the drama to accommodate both gay couples. The second gay couple deserves more than a cameo in the final moments
"Values change over time" is an excuse to avoid making changes. We can't wait for society to catch up. Starting conversations on the importance of gay representation, demanding better representation, this is how we will change society
"... which we all already thought would end up together"
We didn't. A significant portion of the audience didn't expect a straight relationship in a story centered on gay relationships. Chan Young and Ji Yu were in the friend zone, they didn't end up together, and that's not what the story should be about. It's healthy to be angry that the spotlight isn't being kept on the gay romance
You believe that the more NSFW the content, the more "upgraded" it is. This liberal, modern obsession with on-screen…
I'm in good company with the "narrow-minded" people who prefer to keep their brains safely nestled inside their skulls and not see creepy "sexual content." Liberals are so open-minded that their brains fell out
Let's hope we see less stories like these in the future. That way, you all genophobe-phobes will cry the shit out of yourselves
"We gays?" I'm gay, and I don't need a story to perfectly mirror my experiences in order to enjoy it. I find comfort…
Happy BLs are a form of activism. They push back against the common belief that gay relationships are negative, unhappy, or doomed
The issue with "Jazz for Two" wasn't the depiction of internalized homophobia. It was the lack of nuanced and sensitive handling of the subject matter. The resolution was hasty and unfulfilling. The characters experienced an abrupt change of heart. They didn't undergo a journey of personal growth and understanding
It makes sense that "straight" identifying women are drawn to BL. The genre doubles the presence of male characters
Issues arise when insensitive comments are made. "He's hot, I can change him," "I can wear a strap-on for him," "why are all the good ones gay." Expressions of possessiveness over male characters diminish the significance of gay content. Women should respect the male characters' romantic involvement with each other
I agree with valuing GL and BL equally. Valuing both allows for a more comprehensive understanding of the lesbian/gay experience
The masculine top/feminine bottom dynamic is a valid expression of gay relationships, but introducing masculine top/masculine bottom or versatile dynamics would be a refreshing change
Struggles and discriminations against lgbt community are must to be shown in present times in each and every lgbt…
Not all homophobes are open to being educated, and it's not always safe or practical for us to engage with homophobes. I was lucky my family was open to education
Homophobia is fear, ignorance, and prejudice. It's not a raging libido or a fetish gone wild. Most homophobes avoid BL altogether
How about we compromise? I could agree that a healthy mix of positive and challenging stories is necessary for a well-rounded representation of the gay experience. The happy stories will uplift and empower us. The tragic stories will hopefully knock sense into the homophobes
"We gays?" I'm gay, and I don't need a story to perfectly mirror my experiences in order to enjoy it. I find comfort…
I'm familiar with that user. Their perspective on BLs was misguided. Happy gay stories are as powerful as "gay people = bullied, suicidal" stories in representing the community
You don't need a rainbow flag in your hand to enjoy feel-good gay stories with happy endings
Struggles and discriminations against lgbt community are must to be shown in present times in each and every lgbt…
Fiction can help us detach from the biases of this world and lose ourselves in a welcoming alternate world that doesn't discriminate against gay people. I'm glad we share the same sentiment
Struggles and discriminations against lgbt community are must to be shown in present times in each and every lgbt…
I'm not annoyed by the idealized, escapist BL content
"Gay people are in pain" isn't a magic bullet for eradicating homophobia. Homophobes take pleasure in our pain. Why play into their hands and show them what they want to see?
It's not our job to educate homophobes. It's their job to learn human decency
Struggles and discriminations against lgbt community are must to be shown in present times in each and every lgbt…
Dramas are, at their core, forms of entertainment. Not every gay story should be a story of discrimination. A gut-wrenching, tissue-soaking story that sends our beloved gay couples six feet under doesn't entertain me
We are not in a never-ending melodramatic soap opera of doom and gloom to be defined by our struggles. We laugh, we love. Positive gay stories can go a long way in raising awareness. Showing that we fret over mundane matters, bad hair days or if our partners will eat the last slice of pizza, will remind the world that gay people are human. This is a slice of insight worth sharing
man i hate comments like these, why can't you just praise the show you just watched without trying to bring down…
No industry is "concerned about representation." Industries are like politicians during election season. Whether they are churning out "straight" stories to appease the homophobic masses or sprinkling in gay stories to keep up with demand, they are after your hard-earned cash
Their intentions aren't noble. The end result is noble and still representation for the gay community
What gay-erasing, bonkers-juice are you drinking? Boycotting a censored adaptation isn't a threat to future BL/gay works. People will write MORE BL/gay stories, to spite you
We want our BL/gay stories like we want our coffee, strong, hot, and unapologetically bold. Keep it real or keep it to yourselves. The demand for authenticity isn't gonna stop people from writing BL/gay stories. It’s gonna stop them from censoring those stories. No more censored kisses, no more "they're just friends"
I'm a free-thinking person, and I don't need the Korean general public's approval. They want to turn a blind eye to the censorship of gay content, and that's their problem. I'm not going to sit back and watch it happen
The author might have been pressured to agree with promises of fame and fortune. Or they might have been tired of arguing with the big bad company. Either way, we are here to stand up for the little censored guy. The author's approval doesn't make censorship any less disrespectful to the gay source material
You don't know what every single gay Korean thinks of the censored adaptation. Some are okay with it, some aren't. What if a poor gay Korean wanted to see a good BL and can't because it's censored? We're standing up for that person's right to enjoy BL, he might be too shy to speak up
"... did you even know this existed before the adaptation?"
I knew about the novel
The term "hypersexuality" can apply to society as well as individuals. "Societal-sex-obsession-mania" doesn't roll off the tongue. "Hypersexuality" it is
"AIDS crisis in the West"
AIDS was a major issue. If it hadn’t been for people having "sex," we wouldn’t have had to deal with it in the first place
"Blaming the youth"
Tell kids to get off our lawns and put down their smartphones. The world would be a better place
" ... not like your orgasm count going up"
Something being part of the human condition doesn't make it good or desirable. Remember, the human condition includes things like blisters and ingrown toenails
A rise in orgasm count might not always correlate with a rise in carbon footprint, but it does increase the likelihood of sock stains and awkward post-sex pillow talk
"Welcome to humankind, the worst species on the planet as voted by the planet and almost every species dwelling on it ..."
I’m aware humanity’s crowning achievement is being the best at being the worst. I was pointing out the generational specializations of suckage
I don't have the stamina to read or respond to the rest of the comment
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Each successive generation carries on the harmful beliefs and behaviors of their forebears
I'm not optimistic about the situation. You're more than welcome to wait and see what actions they might take
It's strange that someone would pass up this drama because "there aren't any hot oppas in it." The cast is good-looking, and Ki Joo is a particularly lovely unnie
The current state of the world isn't only a product of the past; it's the result of ongoing bad decisions by humans of all ages
Wars and humanity are inseparable. Thanks to the younger generation's obsession with the superficial, you can bet your bottom dollar that there will be no shortage of new conflicts and divisions
BL fans aren't toxic! They are passionate and invested in the stories that they love
Chapters 50 to 89 cover the development of the second gay couple's relationship. That's a lot of content. They could have bidden farewell to the unnecessary straight storyline or extended the drama to accommodate both gay couples. The second gay couple deserves more than a cameo in the final moments
"Values change over time" is an excuse to avoid making changes. We can't wait for society to catch up. Starting conversations on the importance of gay representation, demanding better representation, this is how we will change society
"... which we all already thought would end up together"
We didn't. A significant portion of the audience didn't expect a straight relationship in a story centered on gay relationships. Chan Young and Ji Yu were in the friend zone, they didn't end up together, and that's not what the story should be about. It's healthy to be angry that the spotlight isn't being kept on the gay romance
Let's hope we see less stories like these in the future. That way, you all genophobe-phobes will cry the shit out of yourselves
The issue with "Jazz for Two" wasn't the depiction of internalized homophobia. It was the lack of nuanced and sensitive handling of the subject matter. The resolution was hasty and unfulfilling. The characters experienced an abrupt change of heart. They didn't undergo a journey of personal growth and understanding
It makes sense that "straight" identifying women are drawn to BL. The genre doubles the presence of male characters
Issues arise when insensitive comments are made. "He's hot, I can change him," "I can wear a strap-on for him," "why are all the good ones gay." Expressions of possessiveness over male characters diminish the significance of gay content. Women should respect the male characters' romantic involvement with each other
I agree with valuing GL and BL equally. Valuing both allows for a more comprehensive understanding of the lesbian/gay experience
The masculine top/feminine bottom dynamic is a valid expression of gay relationships, but introducing masculine top/masculine bottom or versatile dynamics would be a refreshing change
Tragic BLs are like a stormy day. Cute, happy BLs are the sunshine and rainbows we need to chase the clouds away
Homophobia is fear, ignorance, and prejudice. It's not a raging libido or a fetish gone wild. Most homophobes avoid BL altogether
How about we compromise? I could agree that a healthy mix of positive and challenging stories is necessary for a well-rounded representation of the gay experience. The happy stories will uplift and empower us. The tragic stories will hopefully knock sense into the homophobes
You don't need a rainbow flag in your hand to enjoy feel-good gay stories with happy endings
"Gay people are in pain" isn't a magic bullet for eradicating homophobia. Homophobes take pleasure in our pain. Why play into their hands and show them what they want to see?
It's not our job to educate homophobes. It's their job to learn human decency
We are not in a never-ending melodramatic soap opera of doom and gloom to be defined by our struggles. We laugh, we love. Positive gay stories can go a long way in raising awareness. Showing that we fret over mundane matters, bad hair days or if our partners will eat the last slice of pizza, will remind the world that gay people are human. This is a slice of insight worth sharing
Their intentions aren't noble. The end result is noble and still representation for the gay community