Alyss107

I think that satan would probably call a kid a leech too, I don't see him having any ability to regret anything he said, he's just a 100% shithole to me, I want all the three angels (Wayu, Singto and Krit) far away from him, but I'm afraid it's impossible all things considered

that would be very cute and I'd cry, but I wouldn't want Singto anywhere near Krit's dad, that's our sad reality

I agree with the fact that in my opinion they overdid it in the aspect of this getting too emotionally heavy and that balance of good vs evil leans more into too much bad things piling up one after another and it's just getting too exhausting, the social aspect of the series is incredibly tough to watch because it feels like blowing against the wind, which sadly is our reality in general. Krit's help with Wayu's life problems might have fixed his life on the surface but he doesn't need this fix without him and it's also very sad, all that help just tragically led to more pain and its frustrating to see, because they have so little happiness in their lives. But I disagree fully with you saying Wayu doesn't get a vote on decisions that blow up in his face. What I love about him is that he never backs down from his decisions and doesn't regret his choices even when at first look they seem not quite rational, at least they're his. It's also very sad that would Krit not almost die, the situation wouldn't change either and it's only the combination of Krit's sacrifice and Wayu's stubborness what made the impossible possible. And I hope they will restore the balance in episode 12, because I again completely agree with this being very depressing for now.

I remember people were saying after the first episode that the series is leaning into being unrealistic and unserious, but it quickly took a turn of unexpectedly being way too realistic when it comes to society and yes it's depressing, but its good to see that when everything seemed to be against them, they still managed. Let's hope the last episode will finally kill this feeling of hopelessness and make it seem like all the pain was worth it.

Wayu standing up for Krit to his dad was such an iconic and satisfying moment in the novel that everyone was waiting for. I’m really curious why the writers flopped it and is the reason for it what I think it is.

Am I understanding correctly that yelling at elderly in the hospital that they’re a horrible parent and don’t deserve such an amazing son considered disrespectful and too scandalous for Thai media and they cannot show it on screen??? I’m just very interested if it is purely writers choice or is it just really so frowned upon? Like is there an unwritten rule for it? And if so, then why it’s okay in books but not in the series? And would Thai audience consider Wayu unlikable if he behaved as he did in the novel, because it’s a no for their culture?

And thats the difference between you and Wayu. You would choose Mind who can’t give you anything, besides being on the same level as you said. Even though Wayu is nowhere near him. He’s gone through so much difficulties in life that he’s definitely not near where close to Mind mentally. Maybe would choose “easier” way and what you’d get a return a relationship with person you don’t love who can’t give you anything with whom you’d part ways fast when you understand what kind of person he really is aka who only thinks about his own wants. Wayu chose harder route and for that he will get the most incredible person to be with. That’s how you usually get good things in life. You gotta fight for it. Especially if you love somebody. Especially if they got you out of a tough spot when you’ve already lost hope. The whole point is that both Krit and Wayu were in a situations in life that couldn’t be resolved without help and both became each other’s ways out. That’s is also what makes Wayu so different from Pete who only took and left when he was satisfied in life. Wayu doesn’t need the happy life without a person who gave it to him.

And like you said just now “that wouldn’t bring ME happiness”, which is at least completely missing the point where Wayu’s character has zero romantic feelings for the guy. And has a complete another view in life.

It is not because he doesn’t want to disappoint his father. He already disappointed him by living his life and saying that he’s gay and will stay gay. You need to rewatch episode 9 to understand maybe.

I love surprises but not like this 😰

You will never be in a safe haven with somebody who doesn’t listen to your wishes and doesn’t understand a word no. Mind is not about loyalty, he’s about a creating something non-existent in his head and then pitying himself for not getting it, like usually do people who don’t understand the meaning of “just a friend”. Safe haven is not when Wayu said that he’s uncomfortable with being alone with him, but Mind did it anyways. Wayu fell in love with Krit because he was in his opinion the epitome of security and protection since the moment he saved him the first time. Even during the “fake” break up he was so sure of him, because Krit slipped and told him to think of himself first. That’s why he never moved on.

The whole point is that Krit puts Wayu’s interests first always to make his life better in every aspect. Mind on the other hand only thinks about what he wants even though Wayu told him many times that it’s not happening. Which is immature yes. Like Wayu himself said “Krit’s reasoning for breaking up is more mature, and grounded in reality. His family would never let us be happy, so he went and chose a very practical route to suffer alone. I could never let a love like this go. He loved me so much that I didn’t know it was possible to feel so loved and secure. Even if all I could do was love him from afar, I would still choose to love him.”

+1 same q, I’m stupid too, I also don’t know what he’s planning to do next

I still think it’s a miracle how this is such a high quality show and no one even drinks lactosoy and oishi or being extra about making an instant ramen or rubbing some facial cream on themselves for 5 minutes while explaining how good it is. Like even fighting scenes are incredible. And no ads?

I agree with all that you said, but I sadly never can feel actually sad for these people, because they never want to help themselves in any way and they always want everyone to pity them and play in that feeling same as him when he constantly made Wayu feel bad. In my opinion it’s the worst kind of manipulation especially when he knew that Wayu was lonely and his behavior when he found out that he and Krit fought was awful too. If he was just that innocent as some people here say I might pity him, but he’s not. In the tennis date episode it was already obvious how he’s not quite alright in the head he is and even though for now nothing super bad happened, the tendencies are there. If not getting help it can easily turn into Pitbabe’s Way situation. This “i know you said no, but I stayed by your side all this time, so now you must give me a chance” is diabolical thinking. I just can’t express enough how unsafe it is to stay with such people. Yes, it’s very sad in cases where you really only see them as a friend and they suddenly reveal it and you don’t know what to do with it. But in this particular case with Wayu it’s not that hard since he wasn’t his childhood friend or anyone close, so those who say “it’s okay if you don’t feel the same (“for now” they add in their heads) just let me stay by your side as a friend”, immediately say “no” and run in the opposite direction. It’s actually more humane thing to do because again they never want to help themselves, so at least by doing so and cutting them off, you’re helping. The more you pity them, the worse the situation will get. They can pity themselves on their own.

I really even do not understand Tai who said it as if Wayu is an assholes for “rejecting him twice”. That also pissed me off. I can’t see this tendency of many thinking about such characters like “omg poor thing, he’s so so good, such a good guy, he’s so selfless, doesn’t have any self-worth, only thinks about the other” romanticising this and feeling sad for them, but I’m gonna be hella harsh and just say it from observing life situations like this. Such behavior is selfish. These people only think about “poor” themselves, wanting to look like a nice victim of love while only listening to themselves. They never listen to what their object of “affection” says because they don’t care. All they care about is “but me tho… don’t I deserve this…”

I think they just love this idea of suffering and in this case people shouldn’t feed them with reacting to this and adding fuel. I can feel bad for people who are victims of circumstances, but can never feel bad for someone who on purpose puts his hand in a working blander for a 10th time. If you like it, you do you, just don’t include me into this.

Just a personal opinion: I really don’t think it’s very wise to keep someone who has feelings for you as a friend. In my experience it’s just never genuine friendship, it’s more about them thinking that by agreeing to this, you give them a potential chance in the future and it will eventually “pay off”. It’s also emotionally exhausting because when with regular friends you know that they do something for you just because, here you constantly have to overthink if there’s a second thought behind it. Like you can see that Wayu also feels that, because he constantly looks uncomfortable before accepting anything like even small things when Mind opens a bottle for him. I really think you just gotta let these people go, I cannot see it ever working. They don’t understand “as a friend” no matter how many times you tell them, they always hear it as “I have a chance”. It’s very clear that he’s not even a love triangle corner, Wayu just not even on 0,00000000001% sees him as such. He says he just feels lonely, but lonely or not, I hope he cuts ties with him for good. I’m sure a sweetheart like you can find other friends at university. People like these are bad for your nervous system.

Krit is like a genie, fulfills everyone's wishes that they mention, but himself is bottled up and people are oblivious to pain. So sad. The ex is horrbile for saying "Maybe your life goal is to make other people's dream come true." Such a contrast to what Wayu kept asking him. Hope he has heard him about his only dream was being with him forever.

👁️ 👄 👁️ forget the dad, you guys continue this convo

Question for dad: so for example
- okay you will eliminate his loved one
- okay you’ll make your after-that-half-dead-somnambulant son marry some chick that he doesn’t know (??!??!🤯)

but he also said he needs a grandkid very soon and how is he planning on making them do that? he won’t be able to get it up. give him viagra and make this chick rape him?

this cannot be for real what he said on the stairs. what in the sick ass shit is this?!? and the mom just stands there in silence agreeing with this??????? you really go to bed with this man??? I’m floored.

Thx I was just about to say do not offend Krit like that! Red flag?! The man is a gorgeous palette!