Hi! I can answer your questions but this is gonna be a huge spoiler if they ever give us a S2. So it's up to you…
I ranted about it during airing so I may have missed those people who actually the same idea as us. (Thanks for telling me, I was blank staring on the "@deleted". I was confused haha!)
I cannot answer in behalf of all SEA countries but way back then, those courses may not be available in their country and fyi, education is only for the rich during that era. (So yeah, think about it, it's totally impossible to bring Jom especially when he is in the lowest class.) And Khun Yai didn't want to let his family down as the first son.
I understand where you are coming from. I love your realistic take about the situation rather than the argument of others before (I'm sorry you had to experience that), I'm actually more convinced.
It's because the series only covered half of the novel that it was unable to completely express what it is intended. We are in reverse. What I mean is we start with Commander Yai before Khun Yai but since we (and Jom) met Khun Yai first, it felt like his love for Jom can possibly be spur of a moment or an ordinary promise in his youth that can change. But it wasn't. Even Khun Yai at some point don't understand how much he loves Jom, he just love him the way he does. And he did everything he can just so he can keep Jom close to him, not only with his romantic intention but with his way to protect Jom.
Khun Yai was completely head over heels Jom. That when Jom just disappeared after their first date, he remained loyal. In the special chapter, after he got back from France, he saw Jom and disappeared (at this time Jom already met Commander Yai, crying when he saw Khun Yai for a moment). In the hidden chapter, the dance scene appeared and Khun Yai didn't danced with anyone. Anyone who tries to steal Yai's heart always feels like they have invisible enemy. Even his sister could tell that he is waiting for someone but Khun Yai never told anyone who it is. No one knew about their relationship at all. He only kept waiting until his last breath.
More thing that I can tell you is that among the "Yai", I have to admit that Commander Yai is my favorite as he is the beginning of all these curse/fate. Khun Yai was the most pitiful among the Yai because he was the only oblivious Yai who waited for Jom until the end of his life. While Kanthorn could be the one that also had a hard time waiting for someone he can't remember until those memories that wasn't from his era came to him (This was the time when Jom already completed his fate thus, Kanthorn remembering all of his reincarnation).
I hope you get to read the novel, if you cried watching the series (even if you did not), you will bawl for the novel. Commander Yai's love for Jom was the best and the saddest thing I have read.
Hi! I can answer your questions but this is gonna be a huge spoiler if they ever give us a S2. So it's up to you…
This is such a good question. I kinda had a rant about the France part too while airing. But in the novel, before they even met, Khun Yai was already set to go to France to continue his studies so they didn’t really have much time together, by that time he asked Jom to wait for him in which Jom agreed and understood (but before Khun Yai could leave, Jom already disappeared from his era) therefore, it was acceptable. However, in the drama, France was his dream in which his dad was against with. So I get that when the opportunity was given, he’d take it but I also felt like it wasn’t solid enough because like you said, they fought so hard for this relationship and he suddenly wanted to leave. He also said in an episode that “Jom is my new dream” so it felt so wrong (to me). He could’ve at least asked Jom if he can take him with him although, it might be possible (Just my thoughts really). But no, he was just a happy child that he can finally go to France. I feel your frustration.
I swear before I finished reading your whole paragraph I was already thinking about the lying on the lap part (I am getting the chills because you get it). You are the only person I’ve heard rant about this. I tried talking to people about this one but their explanation is just not enough for me because the ‘lying on the lap’ scene existed and that hurt me so bad. However, you’ve also emphasized that it is because Khun Yai was young, which was also the explanation of everyone else (I can’t accept it, Khun Yai novel was mature).
Conclusion: Yes, in the novel he was set for France to finish Law School but it was intended even before he met Jom.
I actually watched the uncut version. So i'll just paste my comment from that page here. The last BL that made…
You are right that there was something missing in the finale and it can only be revealed if we ever get a S2 so it's not exactly rushed.. its just missing.
Triage & The Miracle of Teddy Bear has so much depth. You might wanna try them if you haven't seen them yet.
Yeo Woon should be 18. Although Myung Ha's mind is 29 (which is also his own concern), his body is in 19. They…
Can you tell me which chapter? I don't recall seeing one. Yeowoon is 2nd year & Myung Ha is 3rd year so its natural they have one year gap only (2-4 & 3-5).
This season was too complex & heavy for me that after all these years I have finally come back to rewatch the series. For some reason I have understood their relationship better & Ji Woo's character was written really well. He pushed Seo Joon so hard not only bcs of his insecurities but bcs he don't believe that he deserves Seo Joon, he even sees himself as a huge burden that he thought when he leaves, Seo Joon would just forget about him eventually. Ji Woo looks at himself really lowly, undeserving of everything that when Seo Joon entered his life & poured him love, he could not believe that such person exists. So when he said he was lonely in the relationship, I get that it was bcs he could not voice out his thoughts bcs he was scared to be a burden to Seo Joon as he never really depended to anyone which eventually ruined him and caused him to leave. My favorite Ji Woo line has to be "We were together for a year but the truth is he will remain with me forever. And I think, for him, I will become a nobody in no time". I think this one really resonated his whole journey, he thinks he is unimportant & it had me understand why he can't see a future with Seo Joon.
The first time, I really thought Seo Joon was pathetic for chasing a man who doesn't want to be with him anymore. I felt miserable in his behalf but eventually understood why Seo Joon won't back down. It had something to do with what Ji Woo talked with his ex, that Seo Joon could see through him. And so I believe Seo Joon couldn't leave all bcs he knew he hasn't gotten the correct answer from Ji Woo yet. He knew Ji Woo loved him that it's hard for him to give up. But when Ji Woo finally said he was lonely, it was the first sign that Seo Joon finally realized that he had to stop bcs loneliness is not something you can cure being with the same person with a peculiar job. Eventually he gave up when he thought Ji Woo was still in love with his ex. But we saw him fold as soon as Ji Woo returned to him. Ji Woo did said that they are different, a polar opposite & I think that perfectly applies to how Ji Woo was trying to push Seo Joon away to how Seo Joon accepted Ji Woo as soon as he returned to him. Ji Woo finally answered all the question Seo Joon had for him and Seo Joon had seen through Ji Woo's sincerity that he didn't had to spend more time to think.
Seo Joon & Ji Woo are very interesting characters. They have traumas they handle differently. Seo Joon is vocal, an open book, if you want to read him, you can but only few are interested & it must be bcs of his status. People only care about his popularity, his looks, his career. But Ji Woo saw him as a person who doesn't ask too many questions but was willing to take care of him. While Ji Woo has walls taller than anything else, that once it is triggered by care, he panics or doubt it which will eventually drive people away however, Seo Joon never left, he found Ji Woo again & accepted him.
So I think that although Ji Woo & Seo Joon are different, I also think they are similar. They have pain they can't talk about. Ji Woo has never told Seo Joon about his parents & Seo Joon has never told Ji Woo about his trauma. It took them a break up and a make up to have that conversation and I think the scriptwriting & directing perfectly delivered what it needs to express.
I may have not been able to say everything that's on my mind but what I deeply want is a S3 tho I don't see a chance. We've been able to learn everything about Ji Woo in this season however, we only learned about Seo Joon to what was told. A setting where Seo Joon's parents would return or Seo Joon & Ji Woo going to Italy would be a good storyline to cover. I won't really ask for too much.
Hi! I can answer your questions but this is gonna be a huge spoiler if they ever give us a S2. So it's up to you…
We are all pushing for S2. We all love Commander Yai and we hope that non-readers will fall in love with him too. If you love Khun Yai, you'll go crazy for Commander Yai for sure.
Hi! I can answer your questions but this is gonna be a huge spoiler if they ever give us a S2. So it's up to you…
You are right, the special ep has nothing to do with the series. It was more like a fanservice which was closely similar to the spin off special chapter of the novel.
They did gave us a hint that confirmation could take a year but if they don't do that, we don't have to expect anything.
This is without a doubt the most beautiful and well-made Thai BL series I have ever seen. Every minute detail…
Hi! I can answer your questions but this is gonna be a huge spoiler if they ever give us a S2. So it's up to you if you read this or not.
•Yai is not a traveler. He is Yai Kanthorn, the reincarnation of Khun Yai & Commander Yai. He holds the memories of them which was why he knew Jom the moment they met. •Khun Yai was the first person Jom met, Commander Yai was the second. Commander Yai has a whole plot of his own which is why he was only seen in the post credit, introducing a possibility of S2. However, if there's no budget & they are unable to do it, they gave us an ending which is the part when he met Kanthorn. It is vague but he will be explained only if we get S2. •Why Jom traveled to Commander Yai? That is because he is actually the secret to Khun Yai's questions. I hope you noticed Khun Yai himself has plenty of plot holes, Commander Yai is the answer. Commander Yai showing up in the first underwater scene is sort of an explanation.
If you want more answers, I can help but for now I hope it answered your questions.
Had a chance to rewatch for the first time and have loved it more than I used to back then. Ji Woo is such a complex character that either people would love & hate if you actually try to understand the depth of his emotions. And I am re-learning that, I also understand him better than the first time I've watched.
Seo Joon was the perfect lover who did not simply let go of Ji Woo and tried to understand & as much as it hurts to see his efforts being pushed aside for almost the whole season, it also became a way for Ji Woo to learn that he is not just a passerby in Seo Joon's life who will soon be forgotten once years pass but he is also someone who will remain in Seo Joon for the rest of his life just like how he felt towards Seo Joon.
Ji Woo was just scared to be forgotten.. he was scared to realize that he has built a world where Seo Joon has become his universe while Seo Joon has a world outside him. He thought Seo Joon will be just fine without him so he had put his guards up. I think Ji Woo is a relatable character for those who are loving deeply but are afraid to be left behind so they left first before they get hurt. And I think this is a genius & realistic approach. Its not easy to find this kind of masterpiece & I crave for more of them. I wish we get a chance to see their lives after they rekindled their relationship. How much Ji Woo has changed & how he became secure of his relationship with Seo Joon. Also what life would they have together as a queer partner.
I cannot answer in behalf of all SEA countries but way back then, those courses may not be available in their country and fyi, education is only for the rich during that era. (So yeah, think about it, it's totally impossible to bring Jom especially when he is in the lowest class.) And Khun Yai didn't want to let his family down as the first son.
I understand where you are coming from. I love your realistic take about the situation rather than the argument of others before (I'm sorry you had to experience that), I'm actually more convinced.
It's because the series only covered half of the novel that it was unable to completely express what it is intended. We are in reverse. What I mean is we start with Commander Yai before Khun Yai but since we (and Jom) met Khun Yai first, it felt like his love for Jom can possibly be spur of a moment or an ordinary promise in his youth that can change. But it wasn't. Even Khun Yai at some point don't understand how much he loves Jom, he just love him the way he does. And he did everything he can just so he can keep Jom close to him, not only with his romantic intention but with his way to protect Jom.
Khun Yai was completely head over heels Jom. That when Jom just disappeared after their first date, he remained loyal. In the special chapter, after he got back from France, he saw Jom and disappeared (at this time Jom already met Commander Yai, crying when he saw Khun Yai for a moment). In the hidden chapter, the dance scene appeared and Khun Yai didn't danced with anyone. Anyone who tries to steal Yai's heart always feels like they have invisible enemy. Even his sister could tell that he is waiting for someone but Khun Yai never told anyone who it is. No one knew about their relationship at all. He only kept waiting until his last breath.
More thing that I can tell you is that among the "Yai", I have to admit that Commander Yai is my favorite as he is the beginning of all these curse/fate. Khun Yai was the most pitiful among the Yai because he was the only oblivious Yai who waited for Jom until the end of his life. While Kanthorn could be the one that also had a hard time waiting for someone he can't remember until those memories that wasn't from his era came to him (This was the time when Jom already completed his fate thus, Kanthorn remembering all of his reincarnation).
I hope you get to read the novel, if you cried watching the series (even if you did not), you will bawl for the novel. Commander Yai's love for Jom was the best and the saddest thing I have read.
I swear before I finished reading your whole paragraph I was already thinking about the lying on the lap part (I am getting the chills because you get it). You are the only person I’ve heard rant about this. I tried talking to people about this one but their explanation is just not enough for me because the ‘lying on the lap’ scene existed and that hurt me so bad. However, you’ve also emphasized that it is because Khun Yai was young, which was also the explanation of everyone else (I can’t accept it, Khun Yai novel was mature).
Conclusion: Yes, in the novel he was set for France to finish Law School but it was intended even before he met Jom.
Triage & The Miracle of Teddy Bear has so much depth. You might wanna try them if you haven't seen them yet.
"I was here now. My worst 19.
To change Cha Yeowoon's 18."
- Chapter 2, Love Supremacy Zone
I can't screenshot here so I only have the lines.
One year has passed. I think that was mentioned in EP1 too.
The first time, I really thought Seo Joon was pathetic for chasing a man who doesn't want to be with him anymore. I felt miserable in his behalf but eventually understood why Seo Joon won't back down. It had something to do with what Ji Woo talked with his ex, that Seo Joon could see through him. And so I believe Seo Joon couldn't leave all bcs he knew he hasn't gotten the correct answer from Ji Woo yet. He knew Ji Woo loved him that it's hard for him to give up. But when Ji Woo finally said he was lonely, it was the first sign that Seo Joon finally realized that he had to stop bcs loneliness is not something you can cure being with the same person with a peculiar job. Eventually he gave up when he thought Ji Woo was still in love with his ex. But we saw him fold as soon as Ji Woo returned to him. Ji Woo did said that they are different, a polar opposite & I think that perfectly applies to how Ji Woo was trying to push Seo Joon away to how Seo Joon accepted Ji Woo as soon as he returned to him. Ji Woo finally answered all the question Seo Joon had for him and Seo Joon had seen through Ji Woo's sincerity that he didn't had to spend more time to think.
Seo Joon & Ji Woo are very interesting characters. They have traumas they handle differently. Seo Joon is vocal, an open book, if you want to read him, you can but only few are interested & it must be bcs of his status. People only care about his popularity, his looks, his career. But Ji Woo saw him as a person who doesn't ask too many questions but was willing to take care of him. While Ji Woo has walls taller than anything else, that once it is triggered by care, he panics or doubt it which will eventually drive people away however, Seo Joon never left, he found Ji Woo again & accepted him.
So I think that although Ji Woo & Seo Joon are different, I also think they are similar. They have pain they can't talk about. Ji Woo has never told Seo Joon about his parents & Seo Joon has never told Ji Woo about his trauma. It took them a break up and a make up to have that conversation and I think the scriptwriting & directing perfectly delivered what it needs to express.
I may have not been able to say everything that's on my mind but what I deeply want is a S3 tho I don't see a chance. We've been able to learn everything about Ji Woo in this season however, we only learned about Seo Joon to what was told. A setting where Seo Joon's parents would return or Seo Joon & Ji Woo going to Italy would be a good storyline to cover. I won't really ask for too much.
They did gave us a hint that confirmation could take a year but if they don't do that, we don't have to expect anything.
•Yai is not a traveler. He is Yai Kanthorn, the reincarnation of Khun Yai & Commander Yai. He holds the memories of them which was why he knew Jom the moment they met.
•Khun Yai was the first person Jom met, Commander Yai was the second. Commander Yai has a whole plot of his own which is why he was only seen in the post credit, introducing a possibility of S2. However, if there's no budget & they are unable to do it, they gave us an ending which is the part when he met Kanthorn. It is vague but he will be explained only if we get S2.
•Why Jom traveled to Commander Yai? That is because he is actually the secret to Khun Yai's questions. I hope you noticed Khun Yai himself has plenty of plot holes, Commander Yai is the answer. Commander Yai showing up in the first underwater scene is sort of an explanation.
If you want more answers, I can help but for now I hope it answered your questions.
Seo Joon was the perfect lover who did not simply let go of Ji Woo and tried to understand & as much as it hurts to see his efforts being pushed aside for almost the whole season, it also became a way for Ji Woo to learn that he is not just a passerby in Seo Joon's life who will soon be forgotten once years pass but he is also someone who will remain in Seo Joon for the rest of his life just like how he felt towards Seo Joon.
Ji Woo was just scared to be forgotten.. he was scared to realize that he has built a world where Seo Joon has become his universe while Seo Joon has a world outside him. He thought Seo Joon will be just fine without him so he had put his guards up. I think Ji Woo is a relatable character for those who are loving deeply but are afraid to be left behind so they left first before they get hurt. And I think this is a genius & realistic approach. Its not easy to find this kind of masterpiece & I crave for more of them. I wish we get a chance to see their lives after they rekindled their relationship. How much Ji Woo has changed & how he became secure of his relationship with Seo Joon. Also what life would they have together as a queer partner.