OMG—WAIT GIIIRL WHOOO??Drop the NAME....lol... Spoil it...Let me see if my brain is connecting the right dots…
Oh, sorry, I've thought my post with spoiler tag passed through, lol. There's one guy I've never suspected bc I've confused the "day of the wedding night" (pls. excuse this contradictio in adiecto) with the day on the plantation (when RSB avoided to get into the coach together with the Monk and butler Cheng and returned with "injured" LJL, sending butler Cheng to LJL's chamber/courtyard in order to help him with his leg). On the day of her wedding night, she was out with LJL, officially "checking on a ditch", ie. having her sweet time on a boat with ML after he helped her escape watching the scene of her husband-to-be moving into her chamber with his things and servants. That's why I've thought there were only her own and Yang family's servants in her courtyard. I've excluded the chief maid Mrs Yan as a killer, bc. the old lady Rong wouldn't order her to kill him in RBS's premises. She was in RBS's courtyard asking for RBS to have dinner with the old lady. Butler Cheng was with her in that moment. He is head over heels for RBS, he could stand someone "noble" like the Monk with hair marries his "queen" but not that brute Yang who was evidently blackmailing her. So, he had the motivation and the opportunity (for him, it's a piece of cake to invent a pretext - eg. to take an account book - to enter the chamber and put some poision into the wine). The only problem with this: he didn't know about the bracelet. When RSB chose Yang, he was standing too far away to see what Yang was holding.
As He psycho didn't take it, either, this missing bracelet is probably in the hands of the person who poisoned him. Before, I've thought it was Yang the Sneaky Twin, who had the motivation (to get rid of the more successful bro), the opportunity to enter and get out of the mansion and courtyard with that identic face or even to order the family servants around his bro from remote to put either a poison or smth else the bro was intollerant of in his drink. But now it seems he neither wanted to marry RSB nor he knew about the bracelet, only the old Yang knew it.
So, whoever of the two (Cheng or Yang the twin/servant at his orders) poisoned the bull, it's highly probable there was another person who took the beads before He entered into the room
Anyone else thinks that it was really the twin of Yang Ding Chen who is the true murderer? Because that snake…
Nope, He didn't know she wasn't in the room. He probably wouldn't kill her, maybe he wouldn't kill the bull either, he entered to spoil their wedding night. He gave him a coup de grace with a candlestick, maybe he wasn't even armed
Guys do you think grandma was the person that poisoned Mr. Yang? Like Lady Tyrell and the purple wedding in Game…
Whoever poisoned him must have had some connections with Yang family servants, bc RSB's servants were all withdrawn from that courtyard. Grandma didn't know RSB would spend the night with Lu, she would never risk poisoning her own granddaughter together with that bull. Only Yangs' and RSB's servants knew he was allone in the bedchamber, but only the first could have served him. Who can give orders to servants from the Yang family? Either his uncle or his twin, right?
this is why she's not fit to be head of the rong family. she's too shortsighted. this is what happens when you…
we know she isn't fit from the start, when she hired bandits to steel the tea from FL not knowing they were abducting women from plantation and the FL ended up abducted as well. She isn't fit bc she is envious, viscious and hypocrite and lacks an outstanding knowledge of tea. But we never percieved her as dumb, she was a rival whose path was smooth because grandma never seriously punished her misdoings and boosts her jealousy in order to have a leverage over the FL. But she was still a rival and a top schemer we've feared. The explanation we've got today for her collusion with family's enemy re-dimensioned her, dumbed her down.
Today's eps were anticlimatic with details of dubious logic here and there: for the first time since the drama started I had to suspend disbelief. It looks like the writer expects from us to condone Yunxi as she was unaware He was planning to kill her cousin. If this is the case, we all overestimated Yunxi's intelligence. Not being aware of how dangerous this psycho was and colluding with such a person, a family enemy, "just to frighten" (as she said) a vulnerable girl makes Yunxi plain dumb. As a dumb person is no match for a smart FL, their rivalry (which raised the tension and our interest in the story) will feel... downgraded, watered, from now on. I suppose our interest will shift towards ML's background story, friends and enemies, which actually isn't a bad idea, we need to go out and breath a different air from the one in the stuffy Rong mansion.
Anyone else thinks that it was really the twin of Yang Ding Chen who is the true murderer? Because that snake…
Twin bro was my n°1 sus, He was 2nd. So, yes. But their targets were different. Twin bro knew RSB wasn't in the chamber, so his target was Yang bull, while He wanted them both dead.
I honestly feel a bit bad that after 10 episodes I still feel nothing 😕 I’m really trying to continue, but…
The FL is a hard working woman, a breadwinner of her family. She is stressed by her working burdens and family responsibilities, exausted by her siblings playing a game of thrones and her granny's constant pressure. Yes, that's exausting so no wonder even a beautiful actress will look exausted and worn out when playing such a role, it isn't a fault of the make up department, this is how we all look like (even worse) after being so stressed and pressured. If you look better in such conditions, send us a photo That's why we root for her. If you watched 10 eps and still feel nothing, then it's better you drop it, this drama isn't for you
Ep 12 - it seriously feels like FL planned the murder1. Her going out and everything that followed did not seem…
Your comment was so funny, I laughed a lot. Now I'll play a serious investigator, just to recap Yang bull's murder and how the FL really felt following your track
1. She went out to forget the bull in the ancient hall where he even kissed her and she felt so sullied 2. Fireworks were the precise moment in which she was feeling weak staying close to ML but feeling it would be wrong to involve him further in her problems, she felt that man (ML) did so much to cheer her up that afternoon (he even got her rid of the monk with hair her granny chose as her mate/husband) and evening, involving him further just didn't seem right 3. Not spending the night with a person who blackmailed her and offended her family and her personal dignity was the only thing she could have thought in the moment she saw his shadow on the door. She felt enraged. If she stepped into that room she could even commit a murder. Better no, she thought, lets spend this night in someone else's room humiliating him and showing him a Rong woman does whatever she wants. 4. Nanny is a person FL's mom decided to shelter. By threatening to expose this fact, FL agreed to marry the bull despite the fact such a thing would damage more the bull's family than the Rongs. The bull wasn't a person to be reasoned with. He wanted the FL (I don't blame him for that) very badly and was joicing at the very thought he'll possess her with this pressure. If I were the FL, I'd certainly kill him, bc I don't stand any kind of pressure or threat, but the FL is constantly under pressure and threat and somehow more used to it. Wanwan would have been the last of my thoughts but somehow FL retained her cool and managed to arrange persons looking after her. The person in charge the night WW went out slept on duty and successively was even blackmailed and bought with a pearl pin by the evil cousin and lured WW to her killer. 5. When FL decided to use the plates with butterfly motives, she never expected evil sisters would involve and expose a mentally impaired sis publicly. It was an unfortunate coincidence they've brought WW to show to the outsiders the one who possesses "tea bone" is WW, while they all know it's just the legend and the FL simply knows more things about tea than they do. The sisters and bro who is dumb enough to serve other people's interests indeed worked hard to ruin the family's reputation. That's why the grandma harshly reproached evil sisters and severely punished the stupid bro who takes their punishment as well for habit bc he is out of the game of thrones for the simple fact he's a male. 6. Being not mentally stable, WW is a perfect scapegoat to kill a big man like dead guy. So, WanWan becomes the only suspect but an impossible suspect (I finally found the phrase I can repeat!) We are so in sync, lol! 7. And this point too, I'll repeat it: "If we know what that bead bracelate means and what scandal is it hiding then we will know if this murder was so worth for FL or not.. ELSE FL did not do it and it just might be as she guessed... a plan to kill her on her wedding night " I also think like you do: where are the fu***ng beads? They are not with the FL, who was the real target that night
Blind girl - you "don't understand her angle" but I agree with "She definitely fell in love with the scholar guy and is crafting her way to get to be with him" and I also feel she "would want the tea estate to herself..." that's why He-Yunxi plan to make the scholar guy the scapegoat of their (unsuccessful) murder won't work and why WW is still alive. 😀
I've found it, thank you very much. To me, it doesn't look like the same candlestick. The one left by that Song boytoy had side handles and couldn't be grasped in that way, while the one used to kill was shown in a firm killer's grip. Besides, the one stolen by boytoy remained in Mrs Yan's room, while the killer had a man's hand
Yunxi is a He's ally. She discovered (actually unruly sis discovered and then told Yunxi) the shoe print belonged…
Yes, there's no doubt he is. An unpredictable and dangerous. When he says "I concede a defeat", we can safely bet all our money he will strike back tenfolds. He is unable to accept a defeat, a psycho.
She is a concubine's daughter and acts like a servant of Yunxi. In the game of thrones in this story, her chances…
she isn't clever enough to invent her own schemes but actively participate in Yunxi's schemes. She helped her to blackmail SB's maid so the latter can lure Wanwan to her killer. Far from innocent...
Okay, I first thought FL went to ML's room to create an alibi for herself but it's starting to look more and more…
imo, she wanted to show that bull who blackmailed her and tried to dominate her in the ancestral hall that a Rong woman does whatever pleases her. She had an urgent need to pass the night elsewhere to humiliate him. She likes Lu, ofc, and probably even wanted to have sex with him, but that was not the right moment (she was enraged with another man) for them to make love and Lu did well to refuse it while keeping her in bed in order to prevent her to do smth stupid.
Yunxi is a He's ally. She discovered (actually unruly sis discovered and then told Yunxi) the shoe print belonged…
Not choosing sides makes her "cautious" in my vocabulary, not "calculating rival"; being able to correctly assess the situation and sense the danger makes her "intelligent" not "formidable". But it's ok, these are just words, lets not discuss them further, call her formidable and calculating if you prefer so.
My point was she indeed sensed the danger coming from these two combined. When her maid reported her of He secretly entering Yunxi's coach, she even said smth like "The wind is rising, the disaster is following". And we both agree she's a very smart lass.
The point of our disagreement are the consequences of the crime for Yunxi. You've said: "if Shanbao is dragged into the mess as a co-conspirator in Yang’s murder, the family’s reputation will take a devastating hit". I can agree the family reputation may be damaged, but Yunxi can care less about the family reputation. She is only interested to bring Shanbao down and that's the reason why she planned and helped He to commit the crime. With Shanbao down, she has the best prospects to "restore the family reputation". Period. The blind girl, daughter of a maid the granny hated is out of the game of thrones in this story, as well as the unruly brat and the one who acts like Yunxi's servant, born by a concubine... not to mention the one surnamed Shen.
If her plot with He is exposed, obviously, there will be certain bad consequences for her too. I can agree with you even on this point to a certain degree. But they will not be that serious, she will not be handed to the authorities or kicked out from the family. She wasn't the material executor of the crime and will deny or distort the reasons why she helped He. Bc. that's how things work in that family and that's how the granny's mind (and blind eye) functions.
Yunxi is unredeemable. Plotting a murder of her mentally vulnerable cousin together with the n°1 enemy of her…
Indeed. Besides, I remember when RSB told Yang bull in the ancestral hall that the husbands of Rong women should be compatible with them for the family to flourish. As Lu is compatible with RSB, I also think Bai is compatible with her. Actually, even He is compatible with Yunxi, but their compatibility is deadly dangerous. A compatibility of criminal minds, lol😂
Yunxi is a He's ally. She discovered (actually unruly sis discovered and then told Yunxi) the shoe print belonged…
I wouldn't call the blind cousin "calculating and formidable rival" but "the most cautious and intelligent" among them. I think she is the one who saved Wanwan: aware of the dangers He-Yunxi pact will inevitably create and hearing from her maid RSB's maid Yang'er was in Yunxi's courtyard receiving gifts with maids from other courtyards, she immediately understood that maid will be used for some deadly plan. While she headed to Huanlin courtyard to check on "spring tea", she probably heard Bai was invited by the psycho for dinner and connected the dots, he's gonna be used as well, probably as a scapegoat.
Spoiler :You can watch the preview for the next episode, it's shown there, but basically Rong Yunwen, the sis…
yup, hearing from her maid, RSB's maid Yang'er was in Yunxi's courtyard receiving gifts with maids from other courtyards, she became sus. She is intelligent, aware of the dangers He-Yunxi pact will inevitably create, she immediately understood that maid will be used for some deadly plan. While she headed to Huanlin courtyard to check on "spring tea", she probably heard Bai was invited by the psycho for dinner and connected the dots, he's gonna be used as well, probably as a scapegoat.
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There's one guy I've never suspected bc I've confused the "day of the wedding night" (pls. excuse this contradictio in adiecto) with the day on the plantation (when RSB avoided to get into the coach together with the Monk and butler Cheng and returned with "injured" LJL, sending butler Cheng to LJL's chamber/courtyard in order to help him with his leg).
On the day of her wedding night, she was out with LJL, officially "checking on a ditch", ie. having her sweet time on a boat with ML after he helped her escape watching the scene of her husband-to-be moving into her chamber with his things and servants. That's why I've thought there were only her own and Yang family's servants in her courtyard. I've excluded the chief maid Mrs Yan as a killer, bc. the old lady Rong wouldn't order her to kill him in RBS's premises. She was in RBS's courtyard asking for RBS to have dinner with the old lady. Butler Cheng was with her in that moment. He is head over heels for RBS, he could stand someone "noble" like the Monk with hair marries his "queen" but not that brute Yang who was evidently blackmailing her. So, he had the motivation and the opportunity (for him, it's a piece of cake to invent a pretext - eg. to take an account book - to enter the chamber and put some poision into the wine).
The only problem with this: he didn't know about the bracelet. When RSB chose Yang, he was standing too far away to see what Yang was holding.
As He psycho didn't take it, either, this missing bracelet is probably in the hands of the person who poisoned him. Before, I've thought it was Yang the Sneaky Twin, who had the motivation (to get rid of the more successful bro), the opportunity to enter and get out of the mansion and courtyard with that identic face or even to order the family servants around his bro from remote to put either a poison or smth else the bro was intollerant of in his drink. But now it seems he neither wanted to marry RSB nor he knew about the bracelet, only the old Yang knew it.
So, whoever of the two (Cheng or Yang the twin/servant at his orders) poisoned the bull, it's highly probable there was another person who took the beads before He entered into the room
Grandma didn't know RSB would spend the night with Lu, she would never risk poisoning her own granddaughter together with that bull.
Only Yangs' and RSB's servants knew he was allone in the bedchamber, but only the first could have served him. Who can give orders to servants from the Yang family? Either his uncle or his twin, right?
And yes, I hope they will, we were shipping those two, lol
The explanation we've got today for her collusion with family's enemy re-dimensioned her, dumbed her down.
I suppose our interest will shift towards ML's background story, friends and enemies, which actually isn't a bad idea, we need to go out and breath a different air from the one in the stuffy Rong mansion.
But their targets were different. Twin bro knew RSB wasn't in the chamber, so his target was Yang bull, while He wanted them both dead.
She is stressed by her working burdens and family responsibilities, exausted by her siblings playing a game of thrones and her granny's constant pressure.
Yes, that's exausting so no wonder even a beautiful actress will look exausted and worn out when playing such a role, it isn't a fault of the make up department, this is how we all look like (even worse) after being so stressed and pressured. If you look better in such conditions, send us a photo
That's why we root for her. If you watched 10 eps and still feel nothing, then it's better you drop it, this drama isn't for you
Now I'll play a serious investigator, just to recap Yang bull's murder and how the FL really felt following your track
1. She went out to forget the bull in the ancient hall where he even kissed her and she felt so sullied
2. Fireworks were the precise moment in which she was feeling weak staying close to ML but feeling it would be wrong to involve him further in her problems, she felt that man (ML) did so much to cheer her up that afternoon (he even got her rid of the monk with hair her granny chose as her mate/husband) and evening, involving him further just didn't seem right
3. Not spending the night with a person who blackmailed her and offended her family and her personal dignity was the only thing she could have thought in the moment she saw his shadow on the door. She felt enraged. If she stepped into that room she could even commit a murder. Better no, she thought, lets spend this night in someone else's room humiliating him and showing him a Rong woman does whatever she wants.
4. Nanny is a person FL's mom decided to shelter. By threatening to expose this fact, FL agreed to marry the bull despite the fact such a thing would damage more the bull's family than the Rongs. The bull wasn't a person to be reasoned with. He wanted the FL (I don't blame him for that) very badly and was joicing at the very thought he'll possess her with this pressure. If I were the FL, I'd certainly kill him, bc I don't stand any kind of pressure or threat, but the FL is constantly under pressure and threat and somehow more used to it. Wanwan would have been the last of my thoughts but somehow FL retained her cool and managed to arrange persons looking after her. The person in charge the night WW went out slept on duty and successively was even blackmailed and bought with a pearl pin by the evil cousin and lured WW to her killer.
5. When FL decided to use the plates with butterfly motives, she never expected evil sisters would involve and expose a mentally impaired sis publicly. It was an unfortunate coincidence they've brought WW to show to the outsiders the one who possesses "tea bone" is WW, while they all know it's just the legend and the FL simply knows more things about tea than they do. The sisters and bro who is dumb enough to serve other people's interests indeed worked hard to ruin the family's reputation. That's why the grandma harshly reproached evil sisters and severely punished the stupid bro who takes their punishment as well for habit bc he is out of the game of thrones for the simple fact he's a male.
6. Being not mentally stable, WW is a perfect scapegoat to kill a big man like dead guy. So, WanWan becomes the only suspect but an impossible suspect (I finally found the phrase I can repeat!) We are so in sync, lol!
7. And this point too, I'll repeat it: "If we know what that bead bracelate means and what scandal is it hiding then we will know if this murder was so worth for FL or not.. ELSE FL did not do it and it just might be as she guessed... a plan to kill her on her wedding night " I also think like you do: where are the fu***ng beads? They are not with the FL, who was the real target that night
Blind girl - you "don't understand her angle" but I agree with "She definitely fell in love with the scholar guy and is crafting her way to get to be with him" and I also feel she "would want the tea estate to herself..." that's why He-Yunxi plan to make the scholar guy the scapegoat of their (unsuccessful) murder won't work and why WW is still alive. 😀
To me, it doesn't look like the same candlestick. The one left by that Song boytoy had side handles and couldn't be grasped in that way, while the one used to kill was shown in a firm killer's grip. Besides, the one stolen by boytoy remained in Mrs Yan's room, while the killer had a man's hand
My point was she indeed sensed the danger coming from these two combined. When her maid reported her of He secretly entering Yunxi's coach, she even said smth like "The wind is rising, the disaster is following". And we both agree she's a very smart lass.
The point of our disagreement are the consequences of the crime for Yunxi. You've said: "if Shanbao is dragged into the mess as a co-conspirator in Yang’s murder, the family’s reputation will take a devastating hit". I can agree the family reputation may be damaged, but Yunxi can care less about the family reputation. She is only interested to bring Shanbao down and that's the reason why she planned and helped He to commit the crime. With Shanbao down, she has the best prospects to "restore the family reputation". Period. The blind girl, daughter of a maid the granny hated is out of the game of thrones in this story, as well as the unruly brat and the one who acts like Yunxi's servant, born by a concubine... not to mention the one surnamed Shen.
If her plot with He is exposed, obviously, there will be certain bad consequences for her too. I can agree with you even on this point to a certain degree. But they will not be that serious, she will not be handed to the authorities or kicked out from the family. She wasn't the material executor of the crime and will deny or distort the reasons why she helped He. Bc. that's how things work in that family and that's how the granny's mind (and blind eye) functions.
Actually, even He is compatible with Yunxi, but their compatibility is deadly dangerous. A compatibility of criminal minds, lol😂
I think she is the one who saved Wanwan: aware of the dangers He-Yunxi pact will inevitably create and hearing from her maid RSB's maid Yang'er was in Yunxi's courtyard receiving gifts with maids from other courtyards, she immediately understood that maid will be used for some deadly plan. While she headed to Huanlin courtyard to check on "spring tea", she probably heard Bai was invited by the psycho for dinner and connected the dots, he's gonna be used as well, probably as a scapegoat.