I can't say it enough, the whole reveal between consort Qin, her master, empress dowager and the whole hibiscus…
The "hibiscus connection", ie., the connection between Qin's revered friend and ED was unexpected, true. But as a person who questioned why Qin kept the edict for herself... I still feel "a problem", although after the latest revelations, it's "reformulated". 1. From that astronomer's words, the thing you've mentioned is clear: keep the edict for yourself, don't give it to the ED, it can be your insurance. Just those words were sufficient to make her stay on guard from the ED. Instead, she continued to believe she was good, she only started recently to inquire about what really happened. She was presented as a smart and calculative in inital eps, but later she appears naive, gullible and even a bit frightened, does she not? Her initial characterial depiction doesn't correspond to the latter, as if the initial depiction was an intentional red herring, but red herrings are not used in character depictions, only in depiction of events, which may be perceived in different ways, depending on pov and perspective the witness of the event actually had. Applying the red herring logic to the characters is called inconsistency. 2. I also agree with you that the astronomer wished to protect her with both those words and the recommendation to continue to stick to the ED "because their fates were connected". But was she an idiot, he could not tell that ED and him actually had a connection and that he was... well, let down, by ED? 3. Finally, I agree with you consort Qin's image of her master and empress dowager is completely destroyed. This thing is important for the development of the plotline we can all envisage at this point: she'll give the edict to the FL. But other points are to be clarified: how did consort Qin kept a secret she had the edict? If her friend astronomer knew the edict was held by the Yes, it means Muyang and ED knew that as well. Just simply asking, they would respond: we gave it to consort Qin, right? Then, they would just turn to her and her eventual answer would be: yes and I've destroyed it. But how could these two be sure she didn't read the content of that edict, which was incriminating for Muyang? If this was the case, the safest thing to do (for these two) was to eliminate her impeding any testimony or account on the content of the edict. Muyang is evil enough to kill his own son, while ED appears to be a ruler came out from the Sun Tzu's famous phrase: "An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes."
Finally, her silence on the edict matter makes her impossible to exonerate from the sc. "culpable omission": her inaction to present the edict made an innocent man (ML's brother) to be convicted and executed. We can believe we are "fated" to a certain person's fate as much as we want, especially if we are living in times in which people generally believed in fate, divinations etc., but the person she relied the most in such beliefs was the person who put her in guard against the person her fate was supposedly linked to. And she chose to protect ED (who also didn't save the astronomer) and not the innocent man she could have saved.
I don't care what anyone says. This drama is giving hitchcockian vibes.
Definitely and not limitedly hitchcockian, depends what sensation the scene wants to convey, what is in the camera focus, there's a constant connection between the kind of a story narrated in a particular moment and the style-technique used by the director. This director is a top master of her art, very versatile in using different tools of different classical master, good both in close shots (eg. Bai Lu's face behind the candle is almost a painting, a portrait), evoking scenes of beauty or arts (Bai Lu's dress when she was painting a murales), large shots (the landscape in which young Ye Li searched for ML, carefully chosen to correspond her narration reminded me of Pollock's My Africa or David Lean's classics), martial arts capturing, tension and distension creation... It's a feast for the eyes
That was truly a fun moment. She wants so hard to get rid of him, yet he sticks to her so hard. 😂😂😂Btw.,…
that wa my impression of lil' bro: that he just wanted to impress him and wasn't evil deep down He also never spent a lot of time with his father, he was living with his mom in another region. I wonder why... Between an unknown father and unknown brother, just for the question of age, I'd prefer to bond with the latter
Highlights of eps today. If you are not updated and do not want to be spoiled do not read what follows. 1. the wheelchair crashed bravely fighting with ML against unreasonably high number of assassins sent (by Muyang) to kill a "cripple". The assassins even formed a guarding encirclement form, totally unrealistic. But necessary for dramatic purposes. To let us (=the audience) go of that wheelchair, to make that wheelchair die as a hero, as a martyr and ofc. to make everybody knows ML is BACK ON HIS FEET (although we knew that already) and to make ML brag at every corner his wife cured his legs. 2. Duke Hua finally personally appeared saying more than 2 sentences. Now we know he wasn't only ML's former superior but was a friend of FL's grandpa and knew her when she was a little... 3. the irritating element in the plotline also successfully trown herself in front of the ML's sis-in-low's carriage. Nobody (=the audience) is happy about her but I don't think she'll get a lot of screentime or affect... 4. ... A'Yao's-A'Li's relationship. Beyond any reasonable doubt, these two love each other. 5. A personal thing which doesn't interest anybody: The cicadas bursting my eardrums and the damn hot summer landscape around me totally correspond to the account Ye Li's is giving in the drama, she even sounds like a heroine from the worlds' narrative and dramaturgical classics. I totally feel for and with her, although I am counting number of days (now it's 3) when I'll jump into the sea. She wanted a glance on her man that time, but I am not the less in my desire to throw myself into the sea, surviving the heat and the noise of cicadas reminding me: it's time to go to the sea! 6. the villain trio finally starts to make some sense. ED used Muyang as a tool to survive and get the power. Muyang used the ED to justify his wrongdoings. But she doesn't want him to be himself (ie. the criminal), she wants him to arise (her words: to grow) from that condition to smth more conciliating and noble. Good luck with that, lol 7. Muyang sent his son to eliminate his subordinate from talking and sent an assassin to kill the son. Although I think the Qin boy survived, he stupidly obeyed this villain's orders. No problem with him killing that corrupted man in prison, but he killed a prison guard along the way...
LOL, "you're an assassin, where's your ambition??" That's precisely the kind of pep-talk she'd give hahaha~100…
That was truly a fun moment. She wants so hard to get rid of him, yet he sticks to her so hard. 😂😂😂 Btw., I also think QC isn't dead. The problem is that now he has done smth truly bad (I don't refer to the corrupted minister), he killed a prison guard.
I just hate these white lotus bitches that bother the main couple, I'm still ot over the one in Prisoner of Beauty,…
To calm your irritation, I can only say this one can hardly compare to the bi*** in POB, bc that one was so intense in her manipulations, that I've actually found her more interesting to watch than the FL when that storyline started to show certain flows. They are both certainly (unreasonably) convinced they are able to turn the tides in the loving relationship between the leads and determined to do so, having their own personal agendas, but this Su girl seems not to possess hard and soft power the noseless lady had. Besides, the noseless lady had wider range of utility in that plotline than this one can possibly have in TFJ plotline. Nevertheless, the Su girl can still irritate to a certain degree. If we can pardon her for being a trigger the Ye Li's jealousy, she will complicate the story (trying to kill the foreign princess framing our dear Ye Li) in a way we don't desire, bc the pending issues are many and heavy and what we (=the audience) want to see are not some new troubles, but those old issues cleared and resolved.
Is Mo Jing Li hiding in Lishan Mountain, since it is abandoned, and no one enters there? What happened to Whatshisname…
No, MJL is in some hideout of the Red Fox. As for the ruins, it was an intentional cut and camera shift deception. The moment cpt. Li stepped into the academy, what we saw wasn't the interior of the academy but the (burnt) courtyard and then the messy study at MJL's mansion in the capital where FL's stepsister was sorting books...
Does the story focus mostly on the FL? Does the Ml have a lot less scenes? Cus I’m reading all posts , nearly…
FL suffers from a particular psychological condition, that's why we all talk a lot about her. She is very cool and strong, but at the same time, extremely vulnerable, and the latter trait make us fear for her more than we fear for the ML, also bc she has already healed his condition (invalidity due to past injuries). But in terms of screentime, they are equal and the ML is just great. People in this section call him "our husband" and FL "our wife" as they (we) are participants in their husband-wife relationship and loving them both, that's how great are the script, direction, performance, visuals, bgm... I would recommend this drama to every person craving for a veeery original story in a fictional period drama genre. It has all the elements of a classic to be remembered for a long time
Let me tell you. Screaming!! Episode 22 yes! He beat that ass! Picked up that lance and said...BAM! I was hollering.…
It's a spear, not a lance. Don't worry, neither did I knew the difference a short while ago 😂 A to your Q: she can't face the reality at her will. She developed a severe PTSD on Li mountain and her brain suppressed and rescripted the events connected with the trauma in her memory, bc just remembering would cause an unbearable pain. The deep brain (amygdala), prioritising the survival, erases the part of the memory connected with the painful event without "informing" the pre-frontex, thus the person isn't even conscious of it.
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But as a person who questioned why Qin kept the edict for herself... I still feel "a problem", although after the latest revelations, it's "reformulated".
1. From that astronomer's words, the thing you've mentioned is clear: keep the edict for yourself, don't give it to the ED, it can be your insurance. Just those words were sufficient to make her stay on guard from the ED. Instead, she continued to believe she was good, she only started recently to inquire about what really happened. She was presented as a smart and calculative in inital eps, but later she appears naive, gullible and even a bit frightened, does she not? Her initial characterial depiction doesn't correspond to the latter, as if the initial depiction was an intentional red herring, but red herrings are not used in character depictions, only in depiction of events, which may be perceived in different ways, depending on pov and perspective the witness of the event actually had. Applying the red herring logic to the characters is called inconsistency.
2. I also agree with you that the astronomer wished to protect her with both those words and the recommendation to continue to stick to the ED "because their fates were connected". But was she an idiot, he could not tell that ED and him actually had a connection and that he was... well, let down, by ED?
3. Finally, I agree with you consort Qin's image of her master and empress dowager is completely destroyed. This thing is important for the development of the plotline we can all envisage at this point: she'll give the edict to the FL. But other points are to be clarified: how did consort Qin kept a secret she had the edict? If her friend astronomer knew the edict was held by the Yes, it means Muyang and ED knew that as well. Just simply asking, they would respond: we gave it to consort Qin, right? Then, they would just turn to her and her eventual answer would be: yes and I've destroyed it. But how could these two be sure she didn't read the content of that edict, which was incriminating for Muyang? If this was the case, the safest thing to do (for these two) was to eliminate her impeding any testimony or account on the content of the edict. Muyang is evil enough to kill his own son, while ED appears to be a ruler came out from the Sun Tzu's famous phrase: "An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes."
Finally, her silence on the edict matter makes her impossible to exonerate from the sc. "culpable omission": her inaction to present the edict made an innocent man (ML's brother) to be convicted and executed. We can believe we are "fated" to a certain person's fate as much as we want, especially if we are living in times in which people generally believed in fate, divinations etc., but the person she relied the most in such beliefs was the person who put her in guard against the person her fate was supposedly linked to. And she chose to protect ED (who also didn't save the astronomer) and not the innocent man she could have saved.
Lv astronomer with fake identity wasn't among the dolls, she killed him because he was mistreating ML
He also never spent a lot of time with his father, he was living with his mom in another region. I wonder why...
Between an unknown father and unknown brother, just for the question of age, I'd prefer to bond with the latter
1. the wheelchair crashed bravely fighting with ML against unreasonably high number of assassins sent (by Muyang) to kill a "cripple". The assassins even formed a guarding encirclement form, totally unrealistic. But necessary for dramatic purposes. To let us (=the audience) go of that wheelchair, to make that wheelchair die as a hero, as a martyr and ofc. to make everybody knows ML is BACK ON HIS FEET (although we knew that already) and to make ML brag at every corner his wife cured his legs.
2. Duke Hua finally personally appeared saying more than 2 sentences. Now we know he wasn't only ML's former superior but was a friend of FL's grandpa and knew her when she was a little...
3. the irritating element in the plotline also successfully trown herself in front of the ML's sis-in-low's carriage. Nobody (=the audience) is happy about her but I don't think she'll get a lot of screentime or affect...
4. ... A'Yao's-A'Li's relationship. Beyond any reasonable doubt, these two love each other.
5. A personal thing which doesn't interest anybody: The cicadas bursting my eardrums and the damn hot summer landscape around me totally correspond to the account Ye Li's is giving in the drama, she even sounds like a heroine from the worlds' narrative and dramaturgical classics. I totally feel for and with her, although I am counting number of days (now it's 3) when I'll jump into the sea. She wanted a glance on her man that time, but I am not the less in my desire to throw myself into the sea, surviving the heat and the noise of cicadas reminding me: it's time to go to the sea!
6. the villain trio finally starts to make some sense. ED used Muyang as a tool to survive and get the power. Muyang used the ED to justify his wrongdoings. But she doesn't want him to be himself (ie. the criminal), she wants him to arise (her words: to grow) from that condition to smth more conciliating and noble. Good luck with that, lol
7. Muyang sent his son to eliminate his subordinate from talking and sent an assassin to kill the son. Although I think the Qin boy survived, he stupidly obeyed this villain's orders. No problem with him killing that corrupted man in prison, but he killed a prison guard along the way...
Btw., I also think QC isn't dead. The problem is that now he has done smth truly bad (I don't refer to the corrupted minister), he killed a prison guard.
Besides, the noseless lady had wider range of utility in that plotline than this one can possibly have in TFJ plotline.
Nevertheless, the Su girl can still irritate to a certain degree. If we can pardon her for being a trigger the Ye Li's jealousy, she will complicate the story (trying to kill the foreign princess framing our dear Ye Li) in a way we don't desire, bc the pending issues are many and heavy and what we (=the audience) want to see are not some new troubles, but those old issues cleared and resolved.
As for the ruins, it was an intentional cut and camera shift deception. The moment cpt. Li stepped into the academy, what we saw wasn't the interior of the academy but the (burnt) courtyard and then the messy study at MJL's mansion in the capital where FL's stepsister was sorting books...
A to your Q: she can't face the reality at her will. She developed a severe PTSD on Li mountain and her brain suppressed and rescripted the events connected with the trauma in her memory, bc just remembering would cause an unbearable pain. The deep brain (amygdala), prioritising the survival, erases the part of the memory connected with the painful event without "informing" the pre-frontex, thus the person isn't even conscious of it.