This series is really good and shows what MeenPing has to offer. The chemistry between them is great and they don't have to try too hard to get butterflies in the audience's stomach. They are my favorite BL couple; no intrusive fanservice, no forced actions for fans, just honest interactions.... The shower scene was hot but I thought they could go further after two series but it's not over yet so who knows... Atom is annoying and I hope he finally gives up and stops trying to force himself between ZR, he knows he has no chance anyway.
......this show is soooo boring... actually the only reason to watch it is this beautiful actor Iwase Yoji, but other than that? This is another failed show, similar to "Living with Him". No chemistry between the actors, no specific plot and a complete lack of romance. oh yes, very beautiful crystal balls....
„unable to continue playing the role of a gay man“ ????? bffr. So gay men can‘t kiss like that but straight…
People who watched older kdramas have always laughed at how bad the kisses were. Like with Park Seojoon at the end of Itaewon Class, everyone laughed at how grotesquely bad the kiss was. People did complain about that, made memes and whatnot. Because that's what viewers do, they react. It's normal. My point is, if you cannot commit fully to a role, especially when playing queer characters, just don't do it. If Phuwin would be a bad kisser if he played a straight character, I don't know, but if he can't commit to properly acting all types of emotions as queer character with another male actor, perhaps he should think about things a bit more. Queer people deserve seeing themselves represented on screen with dignity and passion just as much as straight people do.
„unable to continue playing the role of a gay man“ ????? bffr. So gay men can‘t kiss like that but straight…
I think you've missed my point entirely. I said that if a straight actor kissed the way Ph did in We Are, he would get backlash just like Ph is getting backlash for kissing like that in a gay role. It doesn't matter what gender the actors are, a kiss like that isn't convincing. And he isn't a bad actor just because of the kiss, he is a bad actor in general. Instead of improving, he's stagnated or gotten worse. As viewer it felt like he acted in a way that was meant to show he didn't enjoy any of it and felt too good for the role and Pond. And, you know, just like me complaining here supposedly isn't helpful, you think you attacking me for voicing my opinion will help? What makes your opinion more valid than mine? If you liked his performance in this show, good for you, but I did not and I am allowed to say as much, just like you can go and write your own review and opinion, no one's stopping you. If you enjoyed the show, great for you. I'm sure Ph will not get sad because of my comment, because he will never read it, and neither will he come to appreciate you getting defensive in his name either.
I have to write this comment because there are things that don't give me peace. I mean Phuwin and his way of kissing Phum in We Are .... I'm a BL fan who was absolutely not impressed by this series and I have a lot of criticisms both of the director and the actors, especially Phuwin. (I already wrote this in other comments) I'm very surprised by the fans who defend him or are happy with "everything", most likely because they like Ph and don't care if his acting, including the way he kisses, is good or not. So maybe I'll turn things around and ask all these fans what they would say about the fact that in a romantic HETERO movie, their favorite couple, during a romantic situation in the moonlight filled with declarations of love, they'd kiss their lover with pursed lips and with disgust on his face? Would you be happy about it? Would you like it? In your opinion, would this reflect the mood and atmosphere of the situation? Do you imagine people in love like this in an intimate situation? I don't think so, and the actor would receive a lot of criticism or hatred in the media from fans. There would be suspicions that he had quarreled with his co-star, that they hated each other and that he was behaving unprofessionally and transferring his personal resentment to his work. It's the same with me; as a queer person, I feel insulted that my love, this love for my partner of the same sex as me, is seen as something bad and the kiss on screen with pursed tight lips is enough and can just be brushed off by the explanation "that's how Phuwin kisses". Guys, if Ph kisses like that, then he should learn how to kiss normally and convincingly, because if he decides to play gay roles, he should do it realistically and not in a resentful way. I would also like to say here in passing that queer love is no different from heterosexual love, that such people, myself included, feel exactly the same in passionate and intimate situations and kiss in the same way, putting our tongue in the partner's mouth or licking him etc., just like any other hetero couple.. If it's BL, let it be BL, and in real life, because many queer people have found their home here and want to feel comfortable and have their favorite couples who encourage them and reassure them with their movie roles that our love is as wonderful as yours. I loved PP Ship, and not because I think they are real or some nonsense, but because they made me feel good with their previous roles. They showed very realistic behavior of boys in love who, apart from being in love with each other, are still boys and act like them. I don't know what happened, but in my opinion, the director and Ph himself play a major role in making such a situation happen. If Ph is unable to continue playing the role of a gay man, he should just give up and play the role of a straight man and the director should find another cast and not just use PP's popularity.
I have to admit that this series is a complete fiasco for me as a PondPhuwin fan. I think I expected too much, I think I wanted too much and I think I saw too much in this couple and got nothing that would make me feel good. PP lost chemistry, they can't kiss (this mainly concerns Phuwin) and they definitely shouldn't play the role of a romantic couple but at best friends who don't have to kiss. In general, the series was too loud for me, the characters were too loud and played theatrically, I think the director wanted to bring too much comedy into the series and it just turned out stupid. In my opinion, the couple Q and T didn't fit together at all and I don't understand why S had to play a childish guy. Only the couple F and T gave me a bit of a nice feeling but they were too scripted. I don't know if it's the director's fault or the script or both, but in my opinion the series is a failure and this disaster is only saved by beautiful views, monuments and a bit of Thai tradition and culture.
My Stand-in the series itself and its ending were very satisfying to my imagination as a BL fan. The series contained everything I want to see and feel when watching a BL series: an interesting script, tense action, romantic plot, hot love scenes, a bit of violence and pain, sadness and despair, and to crown it all like a cherry on top of the cake, a great and tear-jerking HAPPY END. So far, this is definitely my favorite series, both in terms of the script and the artistic setting in the form of beautiful music and wonderful shots and photos.
PS. Ming, although it might seem impossible, has completely redeemed himself in my eyes. Sol turned out to be a very devoted friend who recognized his mistake and failure without turning away from Joe. Even Ming's stern father endeared me in a sympathetic way because I somehow understand him. I remember my father telling my boyfriend that he would stab him in the back if he hurt his daughter/me. This didn't happen because I was out of my mind. LOL. To Sum it up: I am very satisfied and now that I know the ending, I can watch this series again, at ease.
I don't know, I'm not convinced by this series even though we had Peem/Phum "moments". I was waiting for their relationship to develop, I was waiting for a romance, I was waiting... I don't know exactly for what, but it didn't happen. Even though Pond and Phuwin tried to play their roles in some way, I don't feel their closeness and affection at all, which only disappoints me. I don't think it's their fault, I think their roles are poorly written and the director ruined this series. In addition, it seems that Q and T suddenly became the main couple of the series from about the 10th episode, and I don't know why. Q and T are generally nice actors, but they don't fit together at all, and in this series, they seemed disgusted by the roles they were assigned. The bed scene was just uncomfortable to watch and I quickly skipped it. The only couple that convinces me is F and T. I think in my eyes they save this series. Their characters are the closest to reality and are pleasant to watch. Also, I keep wondering what happened to Pond and Phuwin. They have been working together for so many years, they have two series together where they are romantic couples, they have kissed at least a million times, but in this series they look like beginner actors whose closeness and kisses are very uncomfortable, even very very uncomfortable judging by the way they kiss, especially Ph... I also have some reservations about the birthday party. Peem gives his boyfriend some flowers. Hello???? it's completely unrealistic. I would expect a sexy bunny or bear costume, but not tulips in a pot. I was also surprised by the morning after the night together, when Peem simply made breakfast himself and ate it alone. Wouldn't it be more natural if he served his boyfriend breakfast in bed? In that respect, I just don't care about the final episode.
I don't know why I came across this series now and how I came to watch it, but what has already happened cannot be undone, right? It is a fairly realistically told story about two men who, for various reasons, do not believe in love (or apparently do not need or want it at all) until they meet someone special. Youth and student life is characterized by experimentation, getting to know many people and drinking alcohol at parties, which provides opportunities and creates favorable situations for casual and random sex and constant partner changes, especially when there is a lot of alcohol involved. This is what happens to our heroes! Random sex in a club toilet without protection (at no point was there any sign that anyone was using a condom) filled me with amazement and fear. I think that when producing such series, directors could and should somehow signal that people should care about protection from diseases, especially when it comes to a story about gay love. This is a big minus point of this series for me.
The second minus is the supporting couple number 1, PING and TAB! Totally unacceptable. At no point did I feel interested in these two characters, there was no romantic chemistry, nothing, and I don't know how these two guys suddenly got romantically close? Especially since they lived vicariously through the lives of the main characters and the only thing they really cared about was those two guys like they were writing a gossip column in an online newspaper about them!
The only real plus for me is the supporting couple number 2, Prince and Gear! They are both sweet, they are both so tender and their feelings develop so subtly that they have become my favorite characters in this series. Also, I think their kisses are one of the sweetest kisses in the BL series.
And that's it, I can't say more about this series because if I hadn't seen it, I would have lost nothing.
After watching episode 1, I know that this series is not for me. I have noticed a certain trend in manga (maybe this trend is not new at all) and I am not keen on it; the beautiful, tall and intelligent and very polar hero #1 has a little admirer. This little admirer is a recluse, is a bit stupid and has trouble getting along with people and is madly in love with our beautiful hero #1.
How many such series have there been, starting from "Life with him" to "My Personal Weather Forecaster".
I thought it would be something more original, which is a shame because hero #1 is really very pretty....
Since we saw Ming pushing the invalid chair that Joe was sitting on, I hope it all ends like it did in the novella, with a happy ending if you can call it that. I can't imagine Joe walking out that door and episode 12 being about Minaga's revenge on Tong..... No, it's about Ming and Joe LOVE and we'll see it (I hope) in the last episode. (Otherwise I will scream, sue BL industry and demand high compensation for my mental health. YEA!)
Agree, I also thought the first kiss was pretty good. But know it's kinda meuh. Feels like Phum (Pond) is trying…
Exactly! Peem agreed to go on a date with Phum, but he did it as if he didn't want to at all. However, based on his previous behavior (he accused Phum of taking advantage of him several times), it seems that this was the question he was waiting for. I don't know if maybe the way Phum asked or the place and time of the question were inappropriate, as well as the fact that Phum didn't have flowers with him? In general, I don't understand such a long storyline (12 episodes) when other couples had already gotten together... especially because Phum had a rival!
Peem, on the other hand, kissed Phum in front of the university like there was no tomorrow, but reacted to Phum's attempts to kiss him (initiated by Phum) with dryness and pursed lips. At the same time, he claims to love Phum and that he is his boo!
I don't know what's going on but Peem's behavior towards Phum is at least strange and very contradictory. Peem seems to be in love with Phum but he shows it in a very strange way or actually he doesn't show it at all and I don't know why? I understand that lovers sometimes tease each other but Peem teases Phum in a strange way and is arrogant towards him. I also don't know why there has been such a regression in kissing with PeemPhum? What happened and who came up with it? Let's remember the passionate kiss in the first few episodes before university? Phem was out of breath and Peem was bursting with love energy. That kiss looked like a love kiss which can't be said about the kisses we see now. I don't know if the actors (PondPhunwin) stopped liking each other or they have a problem kissing on camera or it's an absurd decision of the director, but these PP kisses suck...... I don't want to see Peem (Phuwin) purse his lips and press them on Phum's mouth, why? A lot of time has passed from episode 2 with the passionate kiss to episode 14, is what happened between PondPhuwin? I'd rather not see it and keep the memories of PP's passion for the NLMG series.
Can you love something and not love it at the same time? That's how it is with me and this series. I love the character of T, I love his sincere eyes and his innocence that flows straight from the transplanted heart. I love that I was able to see and recognize a bit of traditional Thailand and ancient customs that are thousands of kilometers away from Central Europe... there is a world full of fascinating views, incredible nature and wildness, and a very simple, austere life. But I don't know why I always felt a little uncomfortable when T and P were close to each other. I always felt uncomfortable when they gave each other those long looks. It seemed so shy and uncomfortable at the same time... I don't know how to explain it, but I always felt embarrassed. So I love these stories and I don't love them at the same time.
If this whole story doesn't end with a happy ending for Joe and Ming, I don't know what I'll do.....I agreed with myself that I would hate Ming for the rest of my life and what happened?
They are my favorite BL couple; no intrusive fanservice, no forced actions for fans, just honest interactions....
The shower scene was hot but I thought they could go further after two series but it's not over yet so who knows...
Atom is annoying and I hope he finally gives up and stops trying to force himself between ZR, he knows he has no chance anyway.
This is another failed show, similar to "Living with Him". No chemistry between the actors, no specific plot and a complete lack of romance.
oh yes, very beautiful crystal balls....
My point is, if you cannot commit fully to a role, especially when playing queer characters, just don't do it. If Phuwin would be a bad kisser if he played a straight character, I don't know, but if he can't commit to properly acting all types of emotions as queer character with another male actor, perhaps he should think about things a bit more. Queer people deserve seeing themselves represented on screen with dignity and passion just as much as straight people do.
And, you know, just like me complaining here supposedly isn't helpful, you think you attacking me for voicing my opinion will help? What makes your opinion more valid than mine? If you liked his performance in this show, good for you, but I did not and I am allowed to say as much, just like you can go and write your own review and opinion, no one's stopping you. If you enjoyed the show, great for you. I'm sure Ph will not get sad because of my comment, because he will never read it, and neither will he come to appreciate you getting defensive in his name either.
I'm a BL fan who was absolutely not impressed by this series and I have a lot of criticisms both of the director and the actors, especially Phuwin. (I already wrote this in other comments)
I'm very surprised by the fans who defend him or are happy with "everything", most likely because they like Ph and don't care if his acting, including the way he kisses, is good or not.
So maybe I'll turn things around and ask all these fans what they would say about the fact that in a romantic HETERO movie, their favorite couple, during a romantic situation in the moonlight filled with declarations of love, they'd kiss their lover with pursed lips and with disgust on his face? Would you be happy about it? Would you like it? In your opinion, would this reflect the mood and atmosphere of the situation? Do you imagine people in love like this in an intimate situation?
I don't think so, and the actor would receive a lot of criticism or hatred in the media from fans. There would be suspicions that he had quarreled with his co-star, that they hated each other and that he was behaving unprofessionally and transferring his personal resentment to his work.
It's the same with me; as a queer person, I feel insulted that my love, this love for my partner of the same sex as me, is seen as something bad and the kiss on screen with pursed tight lips is enough and can just be brushed off by the explanation "that's how Phuwin kisses". Guys, if Ph kisses like that, then he should learn how to kiss normally and convincingly, because if he decides to play gay roles, he should do it realistically and not in a resentful way. I would also like to say here in passing that queer love is no different from heterosexual love, that such people, myself included, feel exactly the same in passionate and intimate situations and kiss in the same way, putting our tongue in the partner's mouth or licking him etc., just like any other hetero couple.. If it's BL, let it be BL, and in real life, because many queer people have found their home here and want to feel comfortable and have their favorite couples who encourage them and reassure them with their movie roles that our love is as wonderful as yours.
I loved PP Ship, and not because I think they are real or some nonsense, but because they made me feel good with their previous roles. They showed very realistic behavior of boys in love who, apart from being in love with each other, are still boys and act like them.
I don't know what happened, but in my opinion, the director and Ph himself play a major role in making such a situation happen. If Ph is unable to continue playing the role of a gay man, he should just give up and play the role of a straight man and the director should find another cast and not just use PP's popularity.
PP lost chemistry, they can't kiss (this mainly concerns Phuwin) and they definitely shouldn't play the role of a romantic couple but at best friends who don't have to kiss.
In general, the series was too loud for me, the characters were too loud and played theatrically, I think the director wanted to bring too much comedy into the series and it just turned out stupid.
In my opinion, the couple Q and T didn't fit together at all and I don't understand why S had to play a childish guy.
Only the couple F and T gave me a bit of a nice feeling but they were too scripted.
I don't know if it's the director's fault or the script or both, but in my opinion the series is a failure and this disaster is only saved by beautiful views, monuments and a bit of Thai tradition and culture.
The series contained everything I want to see and feel when watching a BL series: an interesting script, tense action, romantic plot, hot love scenes, a bit of violence and pain, sadness and despair, and to crown it all like a cherry on top of the cake, a great and tear-jerking HAPPY END.
So far, this is definitely my favorite series, both in terms of the script and the artistic setting in the form of beautiful music and wonderful shots and photos.
PS. Ming, although it might seem impossible, has completely redeemed himself in my eyes. Sol turned out to be a very devoted friend who recognized his mistake and failure without turning away from Joe. Even Ming's stern father endeared me in a sympathetic way because I somehow understand him. I remember my father telling my boyfriend that he would stab him in the back if he hurt his daughter/me. This didn't happen because I was out of my mind. LOL.
To Sum it up: I am very satisfied and now that I know the ending, I can watch this series again, at ease.
Regards.
I was waiting for their relationship to develop, I was waiting for a romance, I was waiting... I don't know exactly for what, but it didn't happen.
Even though Pond and Phuwin tried to play their roles in some way, I don't feel their closeness and affection at all, which only disappoints me. I don't think it's their fault, I think their roles are poorly written and the director ruined this series.
In addition, it seems that Q and T suddenly became the main couple of the series from about the 10th episode, and I don't know why. Q and T are generally nice actors, but they don't fit together at all, and in this series, they seemed disgusted by the roles they were assigned. The bed scene was just uncomfortable to watch and I quickly skipped it.
The only couple that convinces me is F and T. I think in my eyes they save this series. Their characters are the closest to reality and are pleasant to watch.
Also, I keep wondering what happened to Pond and Phuwin. They have been working together for so many years, they have two series together where they are romantic couples, they have kissed at least a million times, but in this series they look like beginner actors whose closeness and kisses are very uncomfortable, even very very uncomfortable judging by the way they kiss, especially Ph...
I also have some reservations about the birthday party. Peem gives his boyfriend some flowers. Hello???? it's completely unrealistic. I would expect a sexy bunny or bear costume, but not tulips in a pot. I was also surprised by the morning after the night together, when Peem simply made breakfast himself and ate it alone. Wouldn't it be more natural if he served his boyfriend breakfast in bed?
In that respect, I just don't care about the final episode.
It is a fairly realistically told story about two men who, for various reasons, do not believe in love (or apparently do not need or want it at all) until they meet someone special.
Youth and student life is characterized by experimentation, getting to know many people and drinking alcohol at parties, which provides opportunities and creates favorable situations for casual and random sex and constant partner changes, especially when there is a lot of alcohol involved.
This is what happens to our heroes! Random sex in a club toilet without protection (at no point was there any sign that anyone was using a condom) filled me with amazement and fear. I think that when producing such series, directors could and should somehow signal that people should care about protection from diseases, especially when it comes to a story about gay love.
This is a big minus point of this series for me.
The second minus is the supporting couple number 1, PING and TAB! Totally unacceptable. At no point did I feel interested in these two characters, there was no romantic chemistry, nothing, and I don't know how these two guys suddenly got romantically close? Especially since they lived vicariously through the lives of the main characters and the only thing they really cared about was those two guys like they were writing a gossip column in an online newspaper about them!
The only real plus for me is the supporting couple number 2, Prince and Gear! They are both sweet, they are both so tender and their feelings develop so subtly that they have become my favorite characters in this series. Also, I think their kisses are one of the sweetest kisses in the BL series.
And that's it, I can't say more about this series because if I hadn't seen it, I would have lost nothing.
How many such series have there been, starting from "Life with him" to "My Personal Weather Forecaster".
I thought it would be something more original, which is a shame because hero #1 is really very pretty....
(Otherwise I will scream, sue BL industry and demand high compensation for my mental health. YEA!)
Peem, on the other hand, kissed Phum in front of the university like there was no tomorrow, but reacted to Phum's attempts to kiss him (initiated by Phum) with dryness and pursed lips. At the same time, he claims to love Phum and that he is his boo!
As a viewer, try to understand any of it.
Peem seems to be in love with Phum but he shows it in a very strange way or actually he doesn't show it at all and I don't know why? I understand that lovers sometimes tease each other but Peem teases Phum in a strange way and is arrogant towards him. I also don't know why there has been such a regression in kissing with PeemPhum? What happened and who came up with it? Let's remember the passionate kiss in the first few episodes before university? Phem was out of breath and Peem was bursting with love energy. That kiss looked like a love kiss which can't be said about the kisses we see now. I don't know if the actors (PondPhunwin) stopped liking each other or they have a problem kissing on camera or it's an absurd decision of the director, but these PP kisses suck...... I don't want to see Peem (Phuwin) purse his lips and press them on Phum's mouth, why? A lot of time has passed from episode 2 with the passionate kiss to episode 14, is what happened between PondPhuwin?
I'd rather not see it and keep the memories of PP's passion for the NLMG series.
That's how it is with me and this series. I love the character of T, I love his sincere eyes and his innocence that flows straight from the transplanted heart. I love that I was able to see and recognize a bit of traditional Thailand and ancient customs that are thousands of kilometers away from Central Europe... there is a world full of fascinating views, incredible nature and wildness, and a very simple, austere life.
But I don't know why I always felt a little uncomfortable when T and P were close to each other. I always felt uncomfortable when they gave each other those long looks. It seemed so shy and uncomfortable at the same time... I don't know how to explain it, but I always felt embarrassed.
So I love these stories and I don't love them at the same time.