First off, if you're going to comment here about how you're not going to watch his work anymore, how you're boycotting him, blah blah blah, that's your choice. But if you're going to speak so strongly about the situation, at least know what actually happened. Otherwise, it feels like you care enough to condemn someone but not enough to understand what you're condemning them for. I'm not really a fan of the age gap and I don't think there's anything wrong with criticizing it. But I do have a problem with people taking claims that haven't been properly established and turning them into facts especially the claims that she "died on his birthday," that he was responsible for her death, or that he didn't help her financially. I'm not really into Kpop, Kdramas or Korean entertainment as a whole. I can count the Kdramas I've watched on one hand. When this whole thing first came out, I actually thought Kim Soo hyun was guilty. My first thought was, "Why would her family lie?" I assumed there had to be something serious behind their accusations. But then I started looking into everything that was being presented and the way the story unfolded made me increasingly uncomfortable. It stopped feeling like people were trying to establish what actually happened and started feeling like an emotional witch hunt. Claims were made, people reacted emotionally and when questions were raised about those claims, something else would be introduced to redirect everyone's attention. The accuser, a YouTuber who has been known as a cyberbully for years, was reportedly asking for donations before posting a picture of Kim Sae ron with Kim Soo hyun. That's already something that should make people pause. Then there were claims that he was blackmailing Kim Soo hyun, saying that if he didn't call off KnockOff, more pictures would be released. One picture of Kim Soohyun washing dishes while wearing shorts was also presented in a way that made it look like he wasn't wearing anything. Her own letter was said to have a different age gap from the one being claimed publicly, with 14 years being referenced instead of 12. There were so many inconsistencies that I don't understand how people could look at all of this and immediately decide that every accusation had been proven. I read the letter Kim Soo hyun wrote too. There was nothing particularly romantic about the wording. It came across more like a response, with him talking about his military day and other things. I'm not saying that letter proves anything by itself. I'm saying that if we're going to use the letter as evidence, then we should actually read them instead of repeating whatever interpretation is trending. I was still skeptical but then her mother posted a handwritten letter about missing Kim Sae ron, and I remember thinking, "Why is this being presented this way?" Like why post it online? I understand grief. I understand why a mother would be emotional after losing her child. But I'm sorry, it felt performative to me like when someone wants to cry so they start recording themselves. It just rubbed me the wrong way. One of my biggest issues with the entire situation was every time one question was raised, it seemed like another emotional claim or controversy appeared before the first question was properly answered. Eventually, people weren't even discussing evidence anymore. They were discussing which brands dropped him, which celebrities unfollowed him and whether those things somehow proved that he was guilty. Brands dropping someone isn't a court verdict. Celebrities unfollowing someone isn't evidence. And when those same celebrities are being attacked or threatened in their comment sections, an unfollow doesn't tell you what they actually know or think. There were so many other bizarre claims. Her family's lawyer playing her audio in a club. The alleged informant Kim Soohyun supposedly hired to kill someone. Claims about the FBI being involved. Cut up sausages being presented as though they represented injuries the informant had. Her naming a cat after one of his movies being treated as proof of their relationship. Pictures of a man being presented as Kim Soo hyun, only for the actual man in the photograph to come forward with proof that he wasn't him and yet people still refused to believe him. At some point, you have to ask yourself.. Are we looking at evidence or are we being emotionally manipulated by a constant stream of shocking claims? And this is where I want to make something very clear just because Kim Soo hyun is a Korean man in Korea does not mean he cannot be a victim. I live in a country where men are generally treated better than women and because of that, if a woman comes forward with a story, I will naturally listen to her first and care about what she's saying before I start thinking about the man's side. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Women deserve to be heard. But listening to a woman isn't the same thing as automatically believing every accusation made against a man. I wouldn't be writing all of this if I hadn't actually sat down and tried to understand what happened. I read through the claims, looked at the evidence being presented, considered both sides, and questioned things that didn't make sense to me. If I were simply defending him because he's a man, I wouldn't have bothered doing any of that. I can believe women deserve to be heard while also believing men deserve due process. Those aren't contradictory positions. I'm not a fan of age gaps but we weren't there. We don't know exactly what happened between these two people. And 19 or 20 isn't 13 or 15. The repeated comparisons between those ages have been extremely misleading. Even early on, I found it difficult to believe some of the claims being made about a supposedly secret relationship with a minor, given how famous Kim Soo hyun was and how many people were allegedly aware of the relationship. That doesn't prove the relationship didn't happen, but it is a reasonable question to ask. Her family claimed they didn't know about the relationship, but then there were claims that her aunt knew. At the press conference involving the YouTuber and her family's lawyer, it was also claimed that eight close friends knew and were supposedly planning to write a statement. Eight people allegedly knew, yet her family didn't? Again, I'm not saying that automatically proves anyone is lying. I'm saying these are inconsistencies that deserve to be questioned instead of dismissed. Then Sulli's brother came forward with claims that were subsequently challenged and according to what was presented afterward, disproved. If someone has important information about a case this serious, why wait until much later to say it? And if the claim falls apart when evidence is presented, why should people continue treating it as fact? There were also claims that Kim Soo hyun forced sulli to do a nude scene. He's an actor, not the sole person responsible for production decisions. If she wasn't comfortable with something, her agency and the production team were also involved in those decisions. If someone is going to accuse him of personally forcing her to do something, there should be actual evidence connecting him to that alleged coercion. And then people started watching the movie again, and it reportedly reached the top four on Netflix during the controversy. But how is that supposed to prove anything? If anything, it shows how quickly controversy can turn someone's private life into entertainment. That's also why I have a problem with how much of Kim Sae ron's private life was leaked. I understand wanting justice for someone you love. I understand wanting answers. But why does the public need to know every private message, photograph, relationship detail and piece of personal information about a deceased person? We know far more about her private life than we ever should have. The YouTuber also repeatedly claimed to have four laptops and three phones' worth of evidence. That was teased multiple times. But when it came time to actually submit the evidence for legal action, suddenly the supposedly overwhelming amount of evidence wasn't being presented in the way people had been promised. If you have that much evidence, why keep teasing it instead of simply presenting it through the proper legal process? Then there were the videos from a past relationship that her parents apparently found. They admitted they didn't know about the relationship at the time but said she had told them he said he was going to marry her, so they stayed quiet. It makes no sense at all. Like why? How? đ”âđ« They didn't have evidence again for the claim and never met him too but oh well đ€· And this is where I have a huge problem with the words "groomer" and "pedophile" being thrown around so casually. You can criticize the age gap without making a criminal allegation. You can say, "I think this relationship was inappropriate," without saying, "He's a pedophile." You can say, "I think he handled the situation badly," without saying, "He killed her." Those are completely different claims, and the more serious the accusation, the more evidence it requires. The same applies to the claim that he caused her death. Kim Sae ron's death was tragic. There is no argument there. But saying "she died" is not the same thing as saying "Kim Soohyun caused her death." The second claim requires evidence. People keep bringing up the fact that she died on his birthday, but she was found on that day. Turning the date into some kind of sinister connection doesn't prove anything. People also bring up the fact that he didn't attend her funeral. Why is an ex partner's attendance at a funeral being treated as evidence of guilt? Someone not attending a funeral doesn't prove they caused someone's death. It is an emotional detail, not evidence of causation. And if there was no established autopsy finding proving the cause of death being discussed, then people shouldn't fill in the blanks themselves and present their assumptions as fact. Even the alleged audio claiming to be Kim Sae ron and saying that they slept together when she was 13 raises questions when it contradicts the letter claiming they began dating when she was 15. Then there were text messages using a photograph that was already publicly available, presented in a way that made it look as though she had sent it to him. If evidence needs to be edited, reframed or presented in a misleading way to make the accusation work, then people should be questioning the evidence not blindly defending the narrative. The YouTuber also deleted posts after being challenged. Again, deleting something doesn't automatically mean you're lying but if you're presenting yourself as the person exposing the truth, why delete or change anything. And honestly, the journalism surrounding all of this was disturbing too. It felt like there was a financial incentive to keep the story alive because outrage generates clicks, views, engagement and money. I've seen people say that anyone who supports Kim Soo hyun lacks empathy. But I don't think that's fair. Sometimes it feels like people are standing outside a house, looking through the windows, seeing one part of what's happening, and deciding they understand the entire situation without ever stepping inside to see the whole picture. You don't have to support Kim Soo hyun to question the accusations against him. You don't have to dislike Kim Saeron's family to question the information they've provided. And you don't have to stop caring about victims simply because you're asking whether a particular accusation has actually been proven. I also don't like how the AI issue is being framed. The problem isn't simply whether AI was used. The bigger issue is the emotional manipulation surrounding the presentation of information. If someone understands how people respond to grief, outrage, fear, and scandal, they can construct a narrative that feels undeniable even when individual pieces of it don't actually prove what they're claiming. And this isn't the first time. Sulli, Kim Saeron and even the actress from It's Okay to Not Be Okay have experienced the cruelty that can come from online harassment. We know what people on the internet are capable of. We know how quickly strangers can turn a person into a target. That's why the whole thing makes me uncomfortable. Kim Sae ron had already been subjected to horrible online treatment before this. I knew who she was before this controversy, and it wasn't because I was following her acting career. I knew her because of people online wishing death on her over her DUI. Think about how disturbing that is. People can contribute to someone's suffering online, move on with their lives, and then when something tragic happens, immediately look for another person to blame. That's exactly why I refuse to casually accept the narrative that "she died because of him" without evidence. People also said Kim Soo hyun should have paid for her DUI, while there were reports that the financial issue had already been handled while she was still alive. And Gold Medalist is a company. Even if Kim Soo hyun is a major figure there, that doesn't mean he personally makes every decision or any at all. Companies have different people, departments and roles for a reason. The same applies to the photograph that people claimed Kim Sae ron posted during his Queen of Tears era to get his attention. Some people then used his denial of their relationship as evidence that he must have been lying. But if he had admitted to a relationship during the height of a major drama, the conversation would obviously have shifted from the drama to his private life. We all know why celebrities choose to hide relationships and honestly, they have the right to keep parts of their lives private. They're human beings not public property. At the end of the day, I'm not asking anyone to become a Kim Soo hyun fan. I'm not asking anyone to watch his dramas or ignore anything that makes them uncomfortable. I'm saying that if we're going to accuse someone of grooming, pedophilia, coercion, blackmail or even causing someone's death, we need more than emotion. We need evidence. And if the evidence eventually proves that he did something wrong, then hold him accountable. But if the evidence doesn't support the accusations like currently, then we shouldn't manufacture a villain simply because the story is emotionally satisfying.bKim Sae ron deserved better than the bullying she experienced while she was alive. She also deserves better than having her death turned into an online weapon of some sort. And Kim Soo hyun, regardless of whether you like him or dislike him, deserves to be judged on what can actually be proven not on assumptions, edited narratives, emotional manipulation or the fact that people online have already decided what they want to believe. I could go on and on, because there are still more things that don't sit right with me but I'll stop here. People are going to believe whatever they want. That's inevitable. But I genuinely believe that most people didn't care about the truth in the first place. They cared about having someone to hate. And that's the part I can't get behind.
i suppose you are the one who is PEDOPHILE .... blaming someones sucide to the innocent ...actuall villens are…
I use Grammarly because English isnât my first language and being fluent in English isnât what determines someoneâs intelligence anyway. Also, AI learned from humans in the first place. Iâm not even trying to be rude Iâm just being honest. Before spreading information youâre not completely sure about, maybe think critically first. Saying things like âwe shouldnât trust the policeâ while blindly trusting people who have already proven to be unreliable makes no sense. It just comes across like you want to hate mindlessly rather than look at things objectively. At this point, you clearly donât have an actual argument, which is why youâre focusing on irrelevant things like whether I use AI or not
i suppose you are the one who is PEDOPHILE .... blaming someones sucide to the innocent ...actuall villens are…
Refusing to trust the police while blindly accepting every inconsistency from Kim Sae-ron's family's side just screams, "I'm a hater and I love hating." Be honest there are too many undeniable contradictions for this to hold up. The FBI was allegedly involved, claiming four laptops and three phones, yet nothing was ever produced. You can only cry "police hid the evidence" or "failed to recover it" if there was actual evidence to begin with. And the photos? Not a single one they released showed her as a minor. Think about that why post an adult photo if your entire case hinges on proving underage dating? They even spread pictures of some man they tried to pass off as Kim Soo-hyun, face conveniently hidden, until the actual guy came forward and said, "That's me." Meanwhile, the accusations keep piling up with zero proof: he cheated, he called her "seaweed," he evaded taxes, he tried to kill an informant, he solicited sex from a 16-year-old, then an AI-generated recording claimed he'd already slept with her at 13. If you don't know the full story, just say that because you're clearly the biased one here. They're even arguing that her naming her cat after his drama proves a relationship. If you're out of the loop, get informed before you spread misinformation just to claim some fake moral superiority
i suppose you are the one who is PEDOPHILE .... blaming someones sucide to the innocent ...actuall villens are…
Iâm not even a fan of Kim Soo Hyun, but a lot of the information people keep spreading doesnât fully add up. She didnât die on his birthday she was found on his birthday. Even her father reportedly said this wasnât her first suicide attempt and that she had struggled deeply for years, so clearly there were already serious issues long before all of this. And the photos they used as âproofâ were never confirmed to be from when she was a minor. One of the pictures that later surfaced even showed Kim Sae Ron holding an iPhone 11, which already changes the timeline people were pushing. I know Asians can look younger, but they kept changing her supposed age depending on the narrative first 13, then 15, then 16 It never stayed consistent. Even the claims themselves started contradicting each other. In one piece of âevidence,â she was supposedly 16, while an AI recording claimed she was 13. The math didnât even line up properly either because people were calculating a 14 year age gap when Kim Soo Hyun and Kim Sae Ron actually had around a 12-year gap. Iâm not trying to force anyone to support him. Iâm just saying that from the beginning, this looked more like an online witch hunt than people genuinely caring about the truth. When Kim Soo Hyun asked for proper evidence to be submitted to the police instead of endlessly spreading things online, people didnât focus on legal action they focused on making more viral posts because social media loves outrage. And people act like heâs some untouchable mafia billionaire who can erase evidence and silence everyone. If he truly had that kind of power, none of this wouldâve even reached the public in the first place. Instead, he came forward publicly, explained himself, got emotional, and cried yet people instantly dismissed it as âacting,â as if actors stop being human beings the moment cameras are involved.
I know we donât know the full story yet, and maybe thereâs more going on behind the scenes than we realize⊠but it still hurts. đđđ First it was The Only One, and now this? Why does it feel like the shows we love most are the ones that slip through our fingers?
Iâm genuinely devastated. Top Form was more than just another BL â it was something special. It had heart, chemistry, and meaning. And now Season 2 feels like a dream slipping away.
Why now, when Smart is at the height of his career? I know he hasnât said anything directly, so I want to give him grace â but from what weâve seen so far, itâs hard not to feel abandoned. I get that he wants to focus on his solo path, and thatâs his right. But walking away from a project that brought so much joy to so many people? It just feels like a punch to the gut.
I hope this is all part of the storyline, or some clever promo twist â especially since the real-life situation reflects the showâs plot in such an eerie way. But if itâs real, if this is truly the end⊠itâs heartbreaking.
I know itâs his decision. I respect his freedom to choose his path. But I also wish he considered everyone who supported him, everyone who believed in this story and wanted to see it continue. Weâre not just fans â weâre people who connected with something real.
Iâm still holding out hope. For a miracle, for an announcement, for anything that gives us a second chance at this story. Because right now, all I feel is sadness and confusion.
You mean what heâs been accused of? Because so far, everything has been baseless allegations, supported by what appears to be fabricated evidence. Iâm not proud of how closely Iâve followed this case, but I know the details inside and outâand based on everything Iâve seen, I genuinely believe KSH is innocent. That might not be a popular opinion, and I completely understand if others disagree. Iâm not saying this as a fan, just as someone who has kept up with the situation closely.
He admitted to dating her when she was 19, and while I wonât defend that decisionâit was questionableâthereâs a huge difference between dating someone at 13 and dating someone at 19. If what he said is true, then KSR was legally an adult and capable of making her own choices. Some women choose to date older men, and their relationship lasted about a year before ending like many relationships do.
Iâll try to keep this short, especially since Iâve already shared my thoughts in this comment section before. So yes, Iâm aware of the allegations. But at the end of the day, these things should be handled in courtânot by strangers on the internet playing judge and jury.
KSR is no longer here to share her side, and KSH has already been cast as the villain in the public eye. So naturally, many people wonât give him the benefit of the doubt. But if he is telling the truth, then heâs been a victim tooâhis life torn apart, dissected, and judged for public consumption.
Iâm not here to change anyoneâs mind. People are entitled to their own perspectives, and itâs okay if we donât all agree. But itâs important to remember that public narratives are often shaped by emotion, not factsâand not everyone is willing to question that.
He said she was 19, and if thatâs true, then KSR was old enough to know what she wanted. Sheâs not some weak,…
You're right. I honestly don't want to be involved in the whole drama, but I can't help myself. I just feel kind of bad for KSH. I used to believe what people were saying about him too, but then I did my own researchâand I'm telling you, if KSH haters just opened their eyes a little, they'd see the truth. Everything was manipulatedâeven the dinner video. They twisted it to make it look like she cooked for him and that they were alone at home, but that wasnât the case at all.
I wish I could send pictures here to show you. The only reason I even remembered I had commented here was because of that "get a life" reply.
And honestly, sometimes I feel like people who spread lies, hate, and accuse someone of being a pedo without proper evidence or justice deserve to be called out. They can't just say anything and not be held accountable.
Well, I know you can never stop haters, but that doesn't mean you can't try. I'm going to avoid commenting for now, but If KSH wins, best believe everyoneâs gonna hear about it. Iâll be spreading it like the gospel, lol
He said she was 19, and if thatâs true, then KSR was old enough to know what she wanted. Sheâs not some weak,…
Iâm someone who writes long essays â thatâs just how I process and express myself. You questioned why anyone would defend someone accused of something so serious. But that same energy should apply both ways â why rush to condemn someone without undeniable proof? I understand having doubts, but outright calling him a pedophile when he hasnât been proven guilty is not only reckless, itâs harmful. Accusations arenât verdicts. Blind outrage doesnât equal justice, and choosing to stay objective doesnât mean supporting the crime â it means respecting the process.
I talked about the age gap, and I still stand by what I said â people have preferences. I know women who exclusively date older men, and theyâre genuinely happy in those relationships. If youâre going to judge a case, fairness should be the bare minimum.
For the record, I wasnât even a fan of KSH. I only watched him in Itâs Okay to Not Be Okay â that was it. At first, I also found it suspicious that she passed on his birthday, until it was clarified that she was found that day, not that she died then. And letâs not forget: there was no autopsy. We still donât know her official cause of death.
How many times did KSRâs family and the YouTuber say they would stop posting photos â either out of concern for KSHâs mental health or because everything had already been submitted to the police? Yet they kept posting. Iâm not defending him â Iâm pointing out inconsistencies. And those inconsistencies are too significant to ignore. What some are calling âproofâ is mostly built on assumptions and emotional manipulation.
KSRâs family weaponized public emotion, and the media amplified it â planting seeds of doubt. This isnât a case of âhe must have done it,â itâs âhe could have done it.â And that uncertainty has become the foundation for so many peopleâs conclusions. Iâm not here to judge anyone â we all come from different places, and naturally, our perspectives vary. But I believe in âinnocent until proven guilty.â And I refuse to condemn someone without clear, solid evidence.
So why are people still obsessing over supposed âliesâ when the case is in court? If you really care about the truth, wait for the legal process. I could go into detail about how Garo Sero manipulated the narrative online, but to you, it would probably just sound like another âlong essay.â So Iâll keep it simple: if KSH is lying, then so is KSRâs side â their stories have been inconsistent from the start.
They havenât even shown up for a single press conference, yet KSH gets mocked for crying in his. Be real. Before being an actor, heâs a human being.
Why follow a narrative from people who keep shifting their story? KSH has stayed consistent. He said they werenât dating at the time â and they werenât. He said he never went to her family home â and thereâs been no proof that he did. The only footage shows him at her place when she was 20 â which they use to push their version of the story. He said he didnât date her as a minor, and thatâs what heâs working to prove in court.
Iâll admit, Iâve followed this case closely â maybe too closely. But itâs everywhere: Facebook, TikTok, X. And what I see is a rush to judgment thatâs destroying someoneâs entire life and career without a fair trial.
If heâs guilty, then justice should be served. But if heâs not, he doesnât deserve to be publicly ruined based on emotion and speculation alone.
KSR supporters are just KSH hatersâno one can change my mind. Why else would you be praying for his downfall this much? Like I keep saying, they're fighting this in court, so whatâs stopping you from waiting for the real truth? The inconsistencies in her familyâs statements and the YouTuberâs story are so obvious. If you genuinely wanted to know the truth, you would.
Youâre out here hoping his movie never gets releasedâjust say youâre a hater. You havenât done anything to help KSRâs family: no donations, no flowers at her grave, no real support. I think you should pray that KSRâs family actually wins the case with their fabricated evidence firstâthen maybe you can talk about his movie.
How will you feel if he wins the case? Remorseful? Or will you just find a new way to invalidate it? Iâm not even a KSH fan, but itâs wild how blinded people are by sympathy and hate. They canât accept anything that doesnât keep KSH as the villain.
Garo and her family never gave us even one forensic report, despite promising multiple times. And letâs be clearâthe age gap between KSH and KSR is not a crime. People who keep bringing it up need to get off their high horses. KSR was old enough. I hate how people treat her like she was some helpless, incompetent fool who couldnât think for herself.
And anyone who believes that Knock Off wonât be a hit if it gets released, or that their 'boycott' will affect the movieâs success, is lying to themselves. Hate sells too. So instead of praying for his downfall, how about doing something that actually mattersâlike donating or showing real support?
He said she was 19, and if thatâs true, then KSR was old enough to know what she wanted. Sheâs not some weak,…
So I said 'innocent until proven guilty'âand thatâs your cue to spread hate? I donât know who you are, but that energy will get you nowhere. Try using your brain; it wonât kill you. Jumping on a hate train just because itâs popular doesnât make you rightâit makes you a follower. If you disagreed, you couldâve made a point instead of proving mine. Think what you want, but Iâm not a troll, and I donât find joy in hate. Wishing you better days.
He said she was 19, and if thatâs true, then KSR was old enough to know what she wanted. Sheâs not some weak,…
Iâm so confused â this isnât about religion. If you donât believe in God, thatâs fine, but Iâm not going to debate whether Heâs real or not. I believe in Him, and thatâs enough.
This is about KSH, and I believe in âinnocent until proven guilty.â The age gap isnât the crime â the issue is whether he dated her as a minor. The case is currently in court, so focus on that.
And even if she was 18 "the legal age" he is her senior by 13 years and she was a naive teenage girl when u are…
He said she was 19, and if thatâs true, then KSR was old enough to know what she wanted. Sheâs not some weak, dumb child like you guys are making her out to be. The age gap might be morally wrong to you, but people have preferences â we shouldnât judge because we arenât them. His "lies" are:1. They werenât dating currently.2. He didnât date her as a minor.3. He never went to her parents' house. Even if he lied, thatâs still not proof that he dated her as a minor â which is the actual crime here. Iâm not even a fan of his, but if you're going to make accusations as heavy as the ones KSRâs family made, then you should back it up with clear evidence, not fabricated lies and emotional manipulation.
Girl, you're not better than anyone. Heâs literally fighting a defamation case in court. If KSRâs family is telling the truth, theyâll win. Itâs that simple. The inconsistency in their story is so obvious, but you're too blinded by your morally righteous self to see it.
I feel like you guys are only seeing KSH as a rich man and KSRâs family isn't wealthy. I donât even understand your thought process. Thereâs nothing wrong with age-gap couples â itâs their life and they should decide how to live it.
What her parents are doing isnât justice; itâs public humiliation. This isnât honoring her in any way. And whoâs to say KSR wanted this to happen? Itâs her story to tell, not her familyâs. She didnât leave a final note or anything. This case is a whole circus
In this life, always make sure you know what youâre saying. Karma is very real, girl. Itâs innocent until proven guilty â not the other way around. You're not the law or God to decide who is guilty.
Let them go to court and get proper justice. Now that theyâve claimed he slept with her when she was 13 â which is a crime in Korea â if heâs guilty, heâll be punished. Donât worry. Seeing things for what they are, not just what you want to see, wonât kill you.
His PR move is a lawsuit. If he wins the case, heâll be cleared of all allegations. People who truly want the truth will care. But people like you â whoâve already made up their minds â will still find a way to invalidate his win. But no matter how much you hide the truth, it will always come out eventually.
Whoever wins the case was the real victim all along. And God wonât let anything bad happen to them. He always fights for His people.
KSH is not only a p3do, but also responsible for Sullis death and Seo Yea Jis blacklisting in South Korea. yall…
Honestly, you've said it all. I don't understand why people bring up Sulli and Seo Yea-ji as proof that he's this or that. They obviously just want to make him look like a bad person without any evidence.
Sulli was bullied to the point where I remember watching an Instagram live where she saw a hate comment and looked so hurt. She said things like, âWhy do people hate me so much?â and âWhy do people care what I do so much?â The movie Real happened in 2017, and she sadly passed in 2019. She was already a controversial figureâshe dated openly, she was a feminist, she was outspoken in a country where just reading a feminist book gets you hate. She talked about her mental health too. She basically wanted to be free, but netizens didn't let her. She broke all the rules that an idol or Korean celebrity isn't supposed to break.
Blaming her fellow actor for her death is inhumane. He wasn't the director or the scriptwriterâhe was just an actor. The movie wasnât even that popular, and I'm sure he didnât receive much praise from it either. If she was truly uncomfortable, she should have gone to her agency at the time and shared her discomfort. Plus, she was already getting hate before that movieâthe hate just piled on. You canât blame someone for haters. Haters hate for no reason. I donât understand why people link him to Sulli at all.
Someone said itâs because he didnât helpâbut this is an industry where you're left to fend for yourself when things get tough. Korean celebrities are known to distance themselves from someone if that person becomes controversial. KSH is an example of thatâhis friends are literally unfollowing him now, maybe not because they want to, but because jobless trolls are spamming their comment sections urging them to unfollow.
This whole case is ridiculous. Even Seo Yea-ji said she doesn't want to be linked to everything and that people shouldn't mention her name again. Like, why do people want them to be victims so badly? KSH shouldn't be blamed. He's not the netizens who send hate or wish people death. Heâs not her agency. If she truly felt uncomfortable, she shouldâve reported it. He's not Koreaâor the parts of the world that obsess more over women's nudity than men's.
Some people are blaming him because he didnât helpâbut what could he have done? Risk his image for someone he wasnât even close to? People are asking for too much, knowing full well they wouldn't do it themselves.
Why didnât he pay her debt? Why didnât he come to her funeral? Why didnât he defend Sulli when she was getting hate? Why didnât he confirm his relationship just because his ex leaked past photos? Why did he cry? Why did he wear black to show sadness? Why did he read from a paper and not speak from memory?
To me, it just sounds like people looking for reasons to hate him. Him crying doesnât change the fact that heâs suing for defamationâsomething that could prove him innocent. Thatâs what we should all be looking forward to: the court case. Again, you are extremely sad and pathetic if youâre condemning someone before trial. Itâs innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. Youâre not better than anyone else and youâll never be anything more than a sheep and a haterâsomeone brainless who canât think for themselves and always wants to join the hate train.
I would never say something I'm not 100% sure of. Like, how are you so sure he's a pedo or a groomer when everything said is so inconsistent? You believe everything her parents sayâparents who didnât even know she was married, didnât know her whereabouts when she was under 18, but when her relationships came out suddenly, they knew everything? Her mom was basically her managerâshe was living in an Asian household; how sneaky could she have been?
Then there's the unknown aunt/family friend, her cousin, a shady YouTuber with fabricated evidence and many pending lawsuits, and an unprofessional lawyer who played sensitive audio in a club like it was entertainment. Even â12345678 friendsâ supposedly wanted to make a statementâyouâre telling me that many people knew about KSHâs underage dating and KSRâs relationship enough to make a statement? And how did they hide their relationship that long? The walls have ears, especially for celebrities.
Everything about this is just ridiculous. Jumping to conclusions makes you unwise and someone who just loves to hate. Everything was manipulated, and they didnât even show one forensic report or autopsy to prove how she died. She didnât even die on his birthdayâshe was found on his birthday.
They donât want to go to the police, but keep exposing their daughterâs personal lifeâhow is that justice? Why fabricate evidence and lie about the time frame? They manipulated the internet with sympathy to the point it's scary.
The truth is never this complicated or confusingâitâs straightforward and clear.
People just want to paint him as the villain they don't care about the facts they've already made up their mind…
I think the most disgusting thing is people who act morally righteous or like they can do no wrong. Itâs extremely disturbing to see someone call him a pedophile or groomer. Likeâwhy are you so sure he is, especially when all their "evidence" is so inconsistent?
Why do people want him to be guilty so badly? None of her pictures were underage. Even the one with the moleâif you go to his military discharge video, youâll see that the mole was still there around 2019 and 2020. His clothes arenât proof eitherâclothes can be bought or gifted.
People can have a platonic relationship and then enter a romantic one later. I feel like people are more pressed about the age gap. But if KSH is telling the truth, then she was old enough to know what she wanted. People have dating preferencesâsome girls choose to date older men.
It's also strange that her family hasnât filed a lawsuit but still has so many supporters. What justice are they even seeking? Sharing your daughter's private life with the world so it can be judged isnât justice. KSRâs supporters just seem like haters looking for a reason to hate. Some of them used to wish her deadâand now that she's gone, theyâre suddenly crying for justice? Hypocrites.
Staying neutral in a case like this is always the best stance. Him denying the relationship doesn't prove he dated her when she was underageâwhere's the logic in that? She posted that picture knowing how toxic the internet is. Itâs obvious it was a smear campaign. They accused him of everythingâdating her at 16, 14, even 13. Cheating. Sending inappropriate selfies. Being part of the CCP. Doing worse than the Burning Sun scandal. Tax evasion. Stock manipulation. Not paying her debts. Even murder (the informant).
They literally said all that with zero evidence. It's ridiculous. Honestly, it's sad how many people still believe her family and Garo Sero.
This isnât honoring KSRâs memory. This is public humiliation. She didnât even leave a note asking for this to happen. They want an apology for themselves, not for her. Their demands kept changingâfrom an apology, to accepting her as a founding member. But did she even invest or create anything to be a founder?
People hate taking accountability. Thatâs why they think theyâre above the law. They want to believe someone is guilty even when the police havenât found them guilty of anything.
I truly believe karma is real. If KSH truly is innocent, I hope every person who spread lies, unconfirmed info, and hate gets punished by the universe. The hate you put into the world will come back to you. If you help destroy someoneâs life and reputation, you donât get to live happily ever after.
If KSH clears his name, I really hope Knock Off gets releasedâand Iâm sure itâll be a hit. Haters only know how to hate. They canât stop success.
Honestly, anyone calling him a pedo and mass-reporting a show that hasnât even come out yet is just sad and pathetic. He hasnât even been proven guilty and is literally fighting this case in court. Jumping to conclusions and choosing the narrative you want to believe doesnât make you a good person.
To me, his letter and video arenât proof that there was an inappropriate relationship. That letter was from 2018. Like, did you even care about KSR when she was alive? Letâs stop the hypocrisyâitâs actually disgusting. Her family keeps changing their story. Isnât it unfair to blindly follow them and believe everything they say?
Again, heâs literally in court fighting a defamation case. If heâs telling the truth, heâll win. If heâs lying, her family will win. Itâs that simple. But people want to complicate it just to justify their hate and the spreading of unproven claims.
Iâm not saying this to change anyoneâs mind. Even if he wins the case, people will still say he paid for the verdict or used his money to get out of it. But most of KSRâs familyâs evidenceâabout 90% of itâwas from when she was already an adult. And even the texts contradict themselves. In 2016, she said she hadnât had sex with him. Then suddenly, sheâs 13 and claims she had? All of their evidence shouldâve focused on when she was a minor if they wanted to prove a crime.
Dating someone over 18 isnât a crime. The crime wouldâve been if he dated her under 18âso why are we even talking about what happened after?
The case is honestly so clear if you look at it without emotions. Stop thinking, âshe was just a child,â and start thinking, âheâs fighting this in court, and the truth will come out.â There are so many holes in the storyâitâs become a circus at this point.
Iâm not even a fan of KSH. I was just interested in the case and kept up with it. Regardless of their age gap, if KSH is telling the truth, then heâs been the victim all along, and this was clearly a smear campaign.
KSR is dead and didnât consent to all of this, and KSH has been made the fixed villainâso everything he says or does is automatically questioned. We should all treat this case like the third parties that we are. We donât know the nature of their relationship, and we werenât present for any of it.
At this point, people just want to be right or are simply looking for a reason to keep him as the villain in their narrative. People literally believed everythingâeven the claim that the FBI is involved. Like, the FBI is supposedly investigating a case that isnât even American-related? They canât arrest him even if it were true, so why would they care?
Itâs honestly ridiculous. Even if I were on KSRâs familyâs side, I wouldâve paused to laugh at how absurd that sounds. Like the FBI doesnât have better things to do?
Anyway, if KSH is actually innocent, then I hope Knock Off gets released. If he isnât, then I hope KSRâs family gets the justice they deserve. But either way, everything should be handled in courtânot in the court of public opinion.
How do you know that Lee sang jun would mind a kissing scene?
Sorry, I saw this late. Yh ,I do believe some bl actors go into it for the opportunities it brings,but I said that to prove a point. (Lee sang jun minding a kissing scene) so I wanted to say people can be homophobic too,we don't know if he's open minded or not then I think I also talked about regardless of your beliefs or personal vices you should put everything aside and work. To me everyone in secret relationship did an amazing job and that's how bls should be treated,with respect. They didn't treat it like the many kbls I've watched like we got real kisses not fish kisses we didn't get a horrible plot and bad acting. I don't know about if he cared about bls, because I'm not him but he for sure cares about his work and he took it seriously. I still don't like people using bls as a stepping stone but we don't know everything, it may be a coincidence. If he wants to be an idol đ€· that's not my business, people should focus on his performance not on what they think.
How do you know that Lee sang jun would mind a kissing scene?
I always get a little annoyed when people give excuses for the cast or production like he didn't kiss because or he didn't do this and that because. Like cast the right people for the job, you're so right it's actually very disrespectful to cast people who aren't fully committed. A straight drama would not get this level of disrespect. We are in 2025,fish kissing and angle kisses should be a thing of the past,even actors that are clearly disgusted when they do a kiss scene.its disrespectful to the LGBTQ community, the viewers and his fellow actor. I understand we are all coming from different places, different religions and different backgrounds but if u take on a role and I mean any role you should be đŻ committed. Regardless of your beliefs or personal vices like put everything aside and work if you aren't able to do that then give it to someone who would gladly do it. You're so right productions need to do better, honestly. Start respecting and caring for the LGBTQ community before you decide to make a movie,show,drama any form of entertainment about them. i feel like I'm going in circles I'm stopping here. Let me watch to my star for the 100th time too đ€Łđ
How do you know that Lee sang jun would mind a kissing scene?
I like lee sang jun but they should cast someone who doesn't have anything in their contract if that's the case. My point was they should stop casting people who won't mind acting and kissing in a bl. They can always cast someone else even the guy that played heesu was underage don't get me wrong I'm not a kissing maniac again I don't need the story to have a kissing scene to watch it. I didn't want to make my other post long but I'm going to explain why I felt he wouldn't do any kissing scenes. I don't know if it's because we are in a bl bubble so we tend to forget that homophobia still exists. A lot of actors don't go into acting bls because they care or want to represent gay people they go into it for money and a chance to boost their careers.I'm not saying lee sang jun is one of them but who's to say he doesn't mind kissing a guy? Not everyone is open minded. I felt he wouldn't kiss a guy from his career stand point, he's popular and already has fans that might not like him kissing a guy and all eyes would be on him after squid game 2. Homophobic people might start making fun of him. Colour rush had the same thing the actor got bullied by his "fans" so much he didn't want to be in season 2 let's not act like homophobia doesn't exist. Your favourite actors or idols might be homophobic AF. I'm not blaming lee sang jun for how heesu class 2 turned out. I'm sure the production never wanted to do a proper bl. Casting ahn ji ho was like an excuse like look guys he's underaged so it would be inappropriate if they kissed or had any form of skinship. The production are at fault. They cut out the bl parts and give it to actors who don't want to act in a proper bl. I thought they adjusted it but you can only adjust so much. Like love in the big city for example can u imagine that drama without everything it had? I can't! All I'll say it's the production people should stop taking on bls for money. Leave it for people who actually love and care about about the LGBTQ community. Sorry it's lengthy i always get carried away
How do you know that Lee sang jun would mind a kissing scene?
Lee sang jun made an appearance in squid game 2 the chances of kissing a guy in his next project is highly unlikely. If the drama had kissing scenes I doubt he would have taken it. No kissing scenes in the drama should have answered your question. I knew he wouldn't kiss and I was right.
One picture of Kim Soohyun washing dishes while wearing shorts was also presented in a way that made it look like he wasn't wearing anything. Her own letter was said to have a different age gap from the one being claimed publicly, with 14 years being referenced instead of 12. There were so many inconsistencies that I don't understand how people could look at all of this and immediately decide that every accusation had been proven. I read the letter Kim Soo hyun wrote too. There was nothing particularly romantic about the wording. It came across more like a response, with him talking about his military day and other things. I'm not saying that letter proves anything by itself. I'm saying that if we're going to use the letter as evidence, then we should actually read them instead of repeating whatever interpretation is trending. I was still skeptical but then her mother posted a handwritten letter about missing Kim Sae ron, and I remember thinking, "Why is this being presented this way?" Like why post it online? I understand grief. I understand why a mother would be emotional after losing her child. But I'm sorry, it felt performative to me like when someone wants to cry so they start recording themselves. It just rubbed me the wrong way. One of my biggest issues with the entire situation was every time one question was raised, it seemed like another emotional claim or controversy appeared before the first question was properly answered. Eventually, people weren't even discussing evidence anymore. They were discussing which brands dropped him, which celebrities unfollowed him and whether those things somehow proved that he was guilty. Brands dropping someone isn't a court verdict. Celebrities unfollowing someone isn't evidence. And when those same celebrities are being attacked or threatened in their comment sections, an unfollow doesn't tell you what they actually know or think. There were so many other bizarre claims. Her family's lawyer playing her audio in a club. The alleged informant Kim Soohyun supposedly hired to kill someone. Claims about the FBI being involved. Cut up sausages being presented as though they represented injuries the informant had. Her naming a cat after one of his movies being treated as proof of their relationship. Pictures of a man being presented as Kim Soo hyun, only for the actual man in the photograph to come forward with proof that he wasn't him and yet people still refused to believe him. At some point, you have to ask yourself.. Are we looking at evidence or are we being emotionally manipulated by a constant stream of shocking claims? And this is where I want to make something very clear just because Kim Soo hyun is a Korean man in Korea does not mean he cannot be a victim. I live in a country where men are generally treated better than women and because of that, if a woman comes forward with a story, I will naturally listen to her first and care about what she's saying before I start thinking about the man's side. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Women deserve to be heard. But listening to a woman isn't the same thing as automatically believing every accusation made against a man.
I wouldn't be writing all of this if I hadn't actually sat down and tried to understand what happened. I read through the claims, looked at the evidence being presented, considered both sides, and questioned things that didn't make sense to me. If I were simply defending him because he's a man, I wouldn't have bothered doing any of that. I can believe women deserve to be heard while also believing men deserve due process. Those aren't contradictory positions. I'm not a fan of age gaps but we weren't there. We don't know exactly what happened between these two people. And 19 or 20 isn't 13 or 15. The repeated comparisons between those ages have been extremely misleading.
Even early on, I found it difficult to believe some of the claims being made about a supposedly secret relationship with a minor, given how famous Kim Soo hyun was and how many people were allegedly aware of the relationship. That doesn't prove the relationship didn't happen, but it is a reasonable question to ask. Her family claimed they didn't know about the relationship, but then there were claims that her aunt knew. At the press conference involving the YouTuber and her family's lawyer, it was also claimed that eight close friends knew and were supposedly planning to write a statement. Eight people allegedly knew, yet her family didn't?
Again, I'm not saying that automatically proves anyone is lying. I'm saying these are inconsistencies that deserve to be questioned instead of dismissed.
Then Sulli's brother came forward with claims that were subsequently challenged and according to what was presented afterward, disproved. If someone has important information about a case this serious, why wait until much later to say it? And if the claim falls apart when evidence is presented, why should people continue treating it as fact? There were also claims that Kim Soo hyun forced sulli to do a nude scene. He's an actor, not the sole person responsible for production decisions. If she wasn't comfortable with something, her agency and the production team were also involved in those decisions. If someone is going to accuse him of personally forcing her to do something, there should be actual evidence connecting him to that alleged coercion. And then people started watching the movie again, and it reportedly reached the top four on Netflix during the controversy. But how is that supposed to prove anything? If anything, it shows how quickly controversy can turn someone's private life into entertainment.
That's also why I have a problem with how much of Kim Sae ron's private life was leaked. I understand wanting justice for someone you love. I understand wanting answers. But why does the public need to know every private message, photograph, relationship detail and piece of personal information about a deceased person? We know far more about her private life than we ever should have. The YouTuber also repeatedly claimed to have four laptops and three phones' worth of evidence. That was teased multiple times. But when it came time to actually submit the evidence for legal action, suddenly the supposedly overwhelming amount of evidence wasn't being presented in the way people had been promised. If you have that much evidence, why keep teasing it instead of simply presenting it through the proper legal process?
Then there were the videos from a past relationship that her parents apparently found. They admitted they didn't know about the relationship at the time but said she had told them he said he was going to marry her, so they stayed quiet. It makes no sense at all. Like why? How? đ”âđ« They didn't have evidence again for the claim and never met him too but oh well đ€· And this is where I have a huge problem with the words "groomer" and "pedophile" being thrown around so casually.
You can criticize the age gap without making a criminal allegation.
You can say, "I think this relationship was inappropriate," without saying, "He's a pedophile." You can say, "I think he handled the situation badly," without saying, "He killed her."
Those are completely different claims, and the more serious the accusation, the more evidence it requires. The same applies to the claim that he caused her death.
Kim Sae ron's death was tragic. There is no argument there. But saying "she died" is not the same thing as saying "Kim Soohyun caused her death." The second claim requires evidence. People keep bringing up the fact that she died on his birthday, but she was found on that day. Turning the date into some kind of sinister connection doesn't prove anything. People also bring up the fact that he didn't attend her funeral. Why is an ex partner's attendance at a funeral being treated as evidence of guilt? Someone not attending a funeral doesn't prove they caused someone's death. It is an emotional detail, not evidence of causation.
And if there was no established autopsy finding proving the cause of death being discussed, then people shouldn't fill in the blanks themselves and present their assumptions as fact. Even the alleged audio claiming to be Kim Sae ron and saying that they slept together when she was 13 raises questions when it contradicts the letter claiming they began dating when she was 15. Then there were text messages using a photograph that was already publicly available, presented in a way that made it look as though she had sent it to him.
If evidence needs to be edited, reframed or presented in a misleading way to make the accusation work, then people should be questioning the evidence not blindly defending the narrative.
The YouTuber also deleted posts after being challenged. Again, deleting something doesn't automatically mean you're lying but if you're presenting yourself as the person exposing the truth, why delete or change anything.
And honestly, the journalism surrounding all of this was disturbing too. It felt like there was a financial incentive to keep the story alive because outrage generates clicks, views, engagement and money. I've seen people say that anyone who supports Kim Soo hyun lacks empathy. But I don't think that's fair. Sometimes it feels like people are standing outside a house, looking through the windows, seeing one part of what's happening, and deciding they understand the entire situation without ever stepping inside to see the whole picture.
You don't have to support Kim Soo hyun to question the accusations against him. You don't have to dislike Kim Saeron's family to question the information they've provided. And you don't have to stop caring about victims simply because you're asking whether a particular accusation has actually been proven. I also don't like how the AI issue is being framed. The problem isn't simply whether AI was used. The bigger issue is the emotional manipulation surrounding the presentation of information. If someone understands how people respond to grief, outrage, fear, and scandal, they can construct a narrative that feels undeniable even when individual pieces of it don't actually prove what they're claiming. And this isn't the first time. Sulli, Kim Saeron and even the actress from It's Okay to Not Be Okay have experienced the cruelty that can come from online harassment. We know what people on the internet are capable of. We know how quickly strangers can turn a person into a target. That's why the whole thing makes me uncomfortable.
Kim Sae ron had already been subjected to horrible online treatment before this. I knew who she was before this controversy, and it wasn't because I was following her acting career. I knew her because of people online wishing death on her over her DUI. Think about how disturbing that is. People can contribute to someone's suffering online, move on with their lives, and then when something tragic happens, immediately look for another person to blame. That's exactly why I refuse to casually accept the narrative that "she died because of him" without evidence.
People also said Kim Soo hyun should have paid for her DUI, while there were reports that the financial issue had already been handled while she was still alive. And Gold Medalist is a company. Even if Kim Soo hyun is a major figure there, that doesn't mean he personally makes every decision or any at all. Companies have different people, departments and roles for a reason.
The same applies to the photograph that people claimed Kim Sae ron posted during his Queen of Tears era to get his attention. Some people then used his denial of their relationship as evidence that he must have been lying. But if he had admitted to a relationship during the height of a major drama, the conversation would obviously have shifted from the drama to his private life. We all know why celebrities choose to hide relationships and honestly, they have the right to keep parts of their lives private. They're human beings not public property.
At the end of the day, I'm not asking anyone to become a Kim Soo hyun fan. I'm not asking anyone to watch his dramas or ignore anything that makes them uncomfortable. I'm saying that if we're going to accuse someone of grooming, pedophilia, coercion, blackmail or even causing someone's death, we need more than emotion. We need evidence.
And if the evidence eventually proves that he did something wrong, then hold him accountable.
But if the evidence doesn't support the accusations like currently, then we shouldn't manufacture a villain simply because the story is emotionally satisfying.bKim Sae ron deserved better than the bullying she experienced while she was alive. She also deserves better than having her death turned into an online weapon of some sort. And Kim Soo hyun, regardless of whether you like him or dislike him, deserves to be judged on what can actually be proven not on assumptions, edited narratives, emotional manipulation or the fact that people online have already decided what they want to believe. I could go on and on, because there are still more things that don't sit right with me but I'll stop here. People are going to believe whatever they want. That's inevitable. But I genuinely believe that most people didn't care about the truth in the first place. They cared about having someone to hate. And that's the part I can't get behind.
Iâm not trying to force anyone to support him. Iâm just saying that from the beginning, this looked more like an online witch hunt than people genuinely caring about the truth. When Kim Soo Hyun asked for proper evidence to be submitted to the police instead of endlessly spreading things online, people didnât focus on legal action they focused on making more viral posts because social media loves outrage.
And people act like heâs some untouchable mafia billionaire who can erase evidence and silence everyone. If he truly had that kind of power, none of this wouldâve even reached the public in the first place. Instead, he came forward publicly, explained himself, got emotional, and cried yet people instantly dismissed it as âacting,â as if actors stop being human beings the moment cameras are involved.
Iâm genuinely devastated. Top Form was more than just another BL â it was something special. It had heart, chemistry, and meaning. And now Season 2 feels like a dream slipping away.
Why now, when Smart is at the height of his career? I know he hasnât said anything directly, so I want to give him grace â but from what weâve seen so far, itâs hard not to feel abandoned. I get that he wants to focus on his solo path, and thatâs his right. But walking away from a project that brought so much joy to so many people? It just feels like a punch to the gut.
I hope this is all part of the storyline, or some clever promo twist â especially since the real-life situation reflects the showâs plot in such an eerie way. But if itâs real, if this is truly the end⊠itâs heartbreaking.
I know itâs his decision. I respect his freedom to choose his path. But I also wish he considered everyone who supported him, everyone who believed in this story and wanted to see it continue. Weâre not just fans â weâre people who connected with something real.
Iâm still holding out hope. For a miracle, for an announcement, for anything that gives us a second chance at this story. Because right now, all I feel is sadness and confusion.
Please let this not be the end. đ
He admitted to dating her when she was 19, and while I wonât defend that decisionâit was questionableâthereâs a huge difference between dating someone at 13 and dating someone at 19. If what he said is true, then KSR was legally an adult and capable of making her own choices. Some women choose to date older men, and their relationship lasted about a year before ending like many relationships do.
Iâll try to keep this short, especially since Iâve already shared my thoughts in this comment section before. So yes, Iâm aware of the allegations. But at the end of the day, these things should be handled in courtânot by strangers on the internet playing judge and jury.
KSR is no longer here to share her side, and KSH has already been cast as the villain in the public eye. So naturally, many people wonât give him the benefit of the doubt. But if he is telling the truth, then heâs been a victim tooâhis life torn apart, dissected, and judged for public consumption.
Iâm not here to change anyoneâs mind. People are entitled to their own perspectives, and itâs okay if we donât all agree. But itâs important to remember that public narratives are often shaped by emotion, not factsâand not everyone is willing to question that.
I wish I could send pictures here to show you. The only reason I even remembered I had commented here was because of that "get a life" reply.
And honestly, sometimes I feel like people who spread lies, hate, and accuse someone of being a pedo without proper evidence or justice deserve to be called out. They can't just say anything and not be held accountable.
Well, I know you can never stop haters, but that doesn't mean you can't try. I'm going to avoid commenting for now, but If KSH wins, best believe everyoneâs gonna hear about it. Iâll be spreading it like the gospel, lol
I talked about the age gap, and I still stand by what I said â people have preferences. I know women who exclusively date older men, and theyâre genuinely happy in those relationships. If youâre going to judge a case, fairness should be the bare minimum.
For the record, I wasnât even a fan of KSH. I only watched him in Itâs Okay to Not Be Okay â that was it. At first, I also found it suspicious that she passed on his birthday, until it was clarified that she was found that day, not that she died then. And letâs not forget: there was no autopsy. We still donât know her official cause of death.
How many times did KSRâs family and the YouTuber say they would stop posting photos â either out of concern for KSHâs mental health or because everything had already been submitted to the police? Yet they kept posting. Iâm not defending him â Iâm pointing out inconsistencies. And those inconsistencies are too significant to ignore. What some are calling âproofâ is mostly built on assumptions and emotional manipulation.
KSRâs family weaponized public emotion, and the media amplified it â planting seeds of doubt. This isnât a case of âhe must have done it,â itâs âhe could have done it.â And that uncertainty has become the foundation for so many peopleâs conclusions. Iâm not here to judge anyone â we all come from different places, and naturally, our perspectives vary. But I believe in âinnocent until proven guilty.â And I refuse to condemn someone without clear, solid evidence.
So why are people still obsessing over supposed âliesâ when the case is in court? If you really care about the truth, wait for the legal process. I could go into detail about how Garo Sero manipulated the narrative online, but to you, it would probably just sound like another âlong essay.â So Iâll keep it simple: if KSH is lying, then so is KSRâs side â their stories have been inconsistent from the start.
They havenât even shown up for a single press conference, yet KSH gets mocked for crying in his. Be real. Before being an actor, heâs a human being.
Why follow a narrative from people who keep shifting their story? KSH has stayed consistent. He said they werenât dating at the time â and they werenât. He said he never went to her family home â and thereâs been no proof that he did. The only footage shows him at her place when she was 20 â which they use to push their version of the story. He said he didnât date her as a minor, and thatâs what heâs working to prove in court.
Iâll admit, Iâve followed this case closely â maybe too closely. But itâs everywhere: Facebook, TikTok, X. And what I see is a rush to judgment thatâs destroying someoneâs entire life and career without a fair trial.
If heâs guilty, then justice should be served. But if heâs not, he doesnât deserve to be publicly ruined based on emotion and speculation alone.
Youâre out here hoping his movie never gets releasedâjust say youâre a hater. You havenât done anything to help KSRâs family: no donations, no flowers at her grave, no real support. I think you should pray that KSRâs family actually wins the case with their fabricated evidence firstâthen maybe you can talk about his movie.
How will you feel if he wins the case? Remorseful? Or will you just find a new way to invalidate it? Iâm not even a KSH fan, but itâs wild how blinded people are by sympathy and hate. They canât accept anything that doesnât keep KSH as the villain.
Garo and her family never gave us even one forensic report, despite promising multiple times. And letâs be clearâthe age gap between KSH and KSR is not a crime. People who keep bringing it up need to get off their high horses. KSR was old enough. I hate how people treat her like she was some helpless, incompetent fool who couldnât think for herself.
And anyone who believes that Knock Off wonât be a hit if it gets released, or that their 'boycott' will affect the movieâs success, is lying to themselves. Hate sells too. So instead of praying for his downfall, how about doing something that actually mattersâlike donating or showing real support?
This is about KSH, and I believe in âinnocent until proven guilty.â The age gap isnât the crime â the issue is whether he dated her as a minor. The case is currently in court, so focus on that.
His "lies" are:1. They werenât dating currently.2. He didnât date her as a minor.3. He never went to her parents' house.
Even if he lied, thatâs still not proof that he dated her as a minor â which is the actual crime here. Iâm not even a fan of his, but if you're going to make accusations as heavy as the ones KSRâs family made, then you should back it up with clear evidence, not fabricated lies and emotional manipulation.
Girl, you're not better than anyone. Heâs literally fighting a defamation case in court. If KSRâs family is telling the truth, theyâll win. Itâs that simple. The inconsistency in their story is so obvious, but you're too blinded by your morally righteous self to see it.
I feel like you guys are only seeing KSH as a rich man and KSRâs family isn't wealthy. I donât even understand your thought process. Thereâs nothing wrong with age-gap couples â itâs their life and they should decide how to live it.
What her parents are doing isnât justice; itâs public humiliation. This isnât honoring her in any way. And whoâs to say KSR wanted this to happen? Itâs her story to tell, not her familyâs. She didnât leave a final note or anything. This case is a whole circus
In this life, always make sure you know what youâre saying. Karma is very real, girl. Itâs innocent until proven guilty â not the other way around. You're not the law or God to decide who is guilty.
Let them go to court and get proper justice. Now that theyâve claimed he slept with her when she was 13 â which is a crime in Korea â if heâs guilty, heâll be punished. Donât worry. Seeing things for what they are, not just what you want to see, wonât kill you.
His PR move is a lawsuit. If he wins the case, heâll be cleared of all allegations. People who truly want the truth will care. But people like you â whoâve already made up their minds â will still find a way to invalidate his win. But no matter how much you hide the truth, it will always come out eventually.
Whoever wins the case was the real victim all along. And God wonât let anything bad happen to them. He always fights for His people.
Sulli was bullied to the point where I remember watching an Instagram live where she saw a hate comment and looked so hurt. She said things like, âWhy do people hate me so much?â and âWhy do people care what I do so much?â The movie Real happened in 2017, and she sadly passed in 2019. She was already a controversial figureâshe dated openly, she was a feminist, she was outspoken in a country where just reading a feminist book gets you hate. She talked about her mental health too. She basically wanted to be free, but netizens didn't let her. She broke all the rules that an idol or Korean celebrity isn't supposed to break.
Blaming her fellow actor for her death is inhumane. He wasn't the director or the scriptwriterâhe was just an actor. The movie wasnât even that popular, and I'm sure he didnât receive much praise from it either. If she was truly uncomfortable, she should have gone to her agency at the time and shared her discomfort. Plus, she was already getting hate before that movieâthe hate just piled on. You canât blame someone for haters. Haters hate for no reason. I donât understand why people link him to Sulli at all.
Someone said itâs because he didnât helpâbut this is an industry where you're left to fend for yourself when things get tough. Korean celebrities are known to distance themselves from someone if that person becomes controversial. KSH is an example of thatâhis friends are literally unfollowing him now, maybe not because they want to, but because jobless trolls are spamming their comment sections urging them to unfollow.
This whole case is ridiculous. Even Seo Yea-ji said she doesn't want to be linked to everything and that people shouldn't mention her name again. Like, why do people want them to be victims so badly? KSH shouldn't be blamed. He's not the netizens who send hate or wish people death. Heâs not her agency. If she truly felt uncomfortable, she shouldâve reported it. He's not Koreaâor the parts of the world that obsess more over women's nudity than men's.
Some people are blaming him because he didnât helpâbut what could he have done? Risk his image for someone he wasnât even close to? People are asking for too much, knowing full well they wouldn't do it themselves.
Why didnât he pay her debt? Why didnât he come to her funeral? Why didnât he defend Sulli when she was getting hate? Why didnât he confirm his relationship just because his ex leaked past photos? Why did he cry? Why did he wear black to show sadness? Why did he read from a paper and not speak from memory?
To me, it just sounds like people looking for reasons to hate him. Him crying doesnât change the fact that heâs suing for defamationâsomething that could prove him innocent. Thatâs what we should all be looking forward to: the court case. Again, you are extremely sad and pathetic if youâre condemning someone before trial. Itâs innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around. Youâre not better than anyone else and youâll never be anything more than a sheep and a haterâsomeone brainless who canât think for themselves and always wants to join the hate train.
I would never say something I'm not 100% sure of. Like, how are you so sure he's a pedo or a groomer when everything said is so inconsistent? You believe everything her parents sayâparents who didnât even know she was married, didnât know her whereabouts when she was under 18, but when her relationships came out suddenly, they knew everything? Her mom was basically her managerâshe was living in an Asian household; how sneaky could she have been?
Then there's the unknown aunt/family friend, her cousin, a shady YouTuber with fabricated evidence and many pending lawsuits, and an unprofessional lawyer who played sensitive audio in a club like it was entertainment. Even â12345678 friendsâ supposedly wanted to make a statementâyouâre telling me that many people knew about KSHâs underage dating and KSRâs relationship enough to make a statement? And how did they hide their relationship that long? The walls have ears, especially for celebrities.
Everything about this is just ridiculous. Jumping to conclusions makes you unwise and someone who just loves to hate. Everything was manipulated, and they didnât even show one forensic report or autopsy to prove how she died. She didnât even die on his birthdayâshe was found on his birthday.
They donât want to go to the police, but keep exposing their daughterâs personal lifeâhow is that justice? Why fabricate evidence and lie about the time frame? They manipulated the internet with sympathy to the point it's scary.
The truth is never this complicated or confusingâitâs straightforward and clear.
Why do people want him to be guilty so badly? None of her pictures were underage. Even the one with the moleâif you go to his military discharge video, youâll see that the mole was still there around 2019 and 2020. His clothes arenât proof eitherâclothes can be bought or gifted.
People can have a platonic relationship and then enter a romantic one later. I feel like people are more pressed about the age gap. But if KSH is telling the truth, then she was old enough to know what she wanted. People have dating preferencesâsome girls choose to date older men.
It's also strange that her family hasnât filed a lawsuit but still has so many supporters. What justice are they even seeking? Sharing your daughter's private life with the world so it can be judged isnât justice. KSRâs supporters just seem like haters looking for a reason to hate. Some of them used to wish her deadâand now that she's gone, theyâre suddenly crying for justice? Hypocrites.
Staying neutral in a case like this is always the best stance. Him denying the relationship doesn't prove he dated her when she was underageâwhere's the logic in that? She posted that picture knowing how toxic the internet is. Itâs obvious it was a smear campaign. They accused him of everythingâdating her at 16, 14, even 13. Cheating. Sending inappropriate selfies. Being part of the CCP. Doing worse than the Burning Sun scandal. Tax evasion. Stock manipulation. Not paying her debts. Even murder (the informant).
They literally said all that with zero evidence. It's ridiculous. Honestly, it's sad how many people still believe her family and Garo Sero.
This isnât honoring KSRâs memory. This is public humiliation. She didnât even leave a note asking for this to happen. They want an apology for themselves, not for her. Their demands kept changingâfrom an apology, to accepting her as a founding member. But did she even invest or create anything to be a founder?
People hate taking accountability. Thatâs why they think theyâre above the law. They want to believe someone is guilty even when the police havenât found them guilty of anything.
I truly believe karma is real. If KSH truly is innocent, I hope every person who spread lies, unconfirmed info, and hate gets punished by the universe. The hate you put into the world will come back to you. If you help destroy someoneâs life and reputation, you donât get to live happily ever after.
If KSH clears his name, I really hope Knock Off gets releasedâand Iâm sure itâll be a hit. Haters only know how to hate. They canât stop success.
To me, his letter and video arenât proof that there was an inappropriate relationship. That letter was from 2018. Like, did you even care about KSR when she was alive? Letâs stop the hypocrisyâitâs actually disgusting. Her family keeps changing their story. Isnât it unfair to blindly follow them and believe everything they say?
Again, heâs literally in court fighting a defamation case. If heâs telling the truth, heâll win. If heâs lying, her family will win. Itâs that simple. But people want to complicate it just to justify their hate and the spreading of unproven claims.
Iâm not saying this to change anyoneâs mind. Even if he wins the case, people will still say he paid for the verdict or used his money to get out of it. But most of KSRâs familyâs evidenceâabout 90% of itâwas from when she was already an adult. And even the texts contradict themselves. In 2016, she said she hadnât had sex with him. Then suddenly, sheâs 13 and claims she had? All of their evidence shouldâve focused on when she was a minor if they wanted to prove a crime.
Dating someone over 18 isnât a crime. The crime wouldâve been if he dated her under 18âso why are we even talking about what happened after?
The case is honestly so clear if you look at it without emotions. Stop thinking, âshe was just a child,â and start thinking, âheâs fighting this in court, and the truth will come out.â There are so many holes in the storyâitâs become a circus at this point.
Iâm not even a fan of KSH. I was just interested in the case and kept up with it. Regardless of their age gap, if KSH is telling the truth, then heâs been the victim all along, and this was clearly a smear campaign.
KSR is dead and didnât consent to all of this, and KSH has been made the fixed villainâso everything he says or does is automatically questioned. We should all treat this case like the third parties that we are. We donât know the nature of their relationship, and we werenât present for any of it.
At this point, people just want to be right or are simply looking for a reason to keep him as the villain in their narrative. People literally believed everythingâeven the claim that the FBI is involved. Like, the FBI is supposedly investigating a case that isnât even American-related? They canât arrest him even if it were true, so why would they care?
Itâs honestly ridiculous. Even if I were on KSRâs familyâs side, I wouldâve paused to laugh at how absurd that sounds. Like the FBI doesnât have better things to do?
Anyway, if KSH is actually innocent, then I hope Knock Off gets released. If he isnât, then I hope KSRâs family gets the justice they deserve. But either way, everything should be handled in courtânot in the court of public opinion.