Finally completed this drama, honestly it took me a couple of tries to get into it, always stopped at ep2 but…
If you have watched a lot of PMW dramas, maybe you’ll agree with me that this is her most uniquely played role. I also loved her in WWWSK but I think she outdid herself as Chae Yeong Sin.
12 years later i still love rewatching this show, i havent found any that hits the same way (could be the nostalgia)…
I can relate. I’ve only been watching KDramas for about 18-19 months but I’ve already watched Healer 3 times. I came to MDL today to look up Healer to see where it’s streaming, because I’m thinking of watching it again soon, and saw your post. It’s such an enjoyable watch. I wouldn’t change anything about the drama itself. The only thing I’ll say is I would have liked more screen time with mother and daughter (trying not to give anything away). It’s my favorite drama for both leads - and for PMY, I LOVED What’s wrong with Secretary Kim. Excellent chemistry between JCW and PMY. And I think Yoo Ji Tae was perfectly cast as Kim Mun Ho. When I suggest people watch it I say it’s a love story between three people but it’s not a love-triangle.
It will definitely be interesting to see how this story is executed in a totally non-Korean setting. Read where the actresses were excited to wear the clothes/costumes.
This is the first 16 episode drama I watched in one sitting. I enjoyed it that much. But was it a romance or friendship, though? Maybe a Fromance. How’s that? I’ve seen a total of 5 Fromances recently. Black (not billed as a romance but had all the leanings, plus he did sort of brush his lips against hers in a fall); My Troublesome Star; When a man Falls in Love; and The Great Show. Same ML in all 4 of these. With the exception of Black, the there was not one kiss yet they are listed as Romances along with other genres. I pretty much left American TV for the gratituitous (sp) skin and sex. But a kiss (just one, and it doesn’t even have to be super long and sloppy) at some point is normal for a romance’s development. Without that it seems like a platonic relationship.
Recall the real Codename 66’s younger brother? He popped up in ep 9. I’m certain he’ll be back in ep 10. Plus Gold teeth should be making his stage left entrance in ep 10. I feel we’re being set up for season 2. And if there’s a season 2 then Agent Kim CANNOT DIE!!!
I like it when a drama recognises that it just looks ridiculous trying to make product placements appear natural,…
Totally agree. I’ve seen them before in countless dramas but this is the first drama that instigated an Amazon purchase of KOPIKO just to see what they taste like.
Dropping after 4th episode is fine but a 1 rating is not fair to the full drama itself. My objection isn’t to your POV. But your POV after 4 episodes should be placed in the Comments section.
ep 8 beginning is stupid. So evil S Korea sold him to evil N Korea and then we get to see some literally insane…
I admit it has disturbed me a bit, especially beg of Ep 8. But I think that was some of the director’s intention. Some KDramas use over the top stories to communicate deeper truths. Agent Kim is one of them. I can’t take the drama itself too seriously but I can glean the underlying truths. Respectfully posted.
@Lee Jun Ho Amazing! Respect to you for all your hard work putting this information together. Thank you for sharing it here in MDL. Your post should help answer questions for anybody who is or has honestly remained in doubt about KSH.
I was new to KDramas last year when I learned about KSH and this scandal (about 2 months into it by then). I have followed this case very closely ever since.
I have mentioned in other posts on other platforms where my doubts of KSH’s guilt stemmed from several issues, but primarily around the ability for such a relationship between two well known celebrities to exist, secretly, based on public information about their many respective projects, etc. It made no sense to me, given how celebrities lives are managed, for them to have had a relationship when she was 15-17, unnoticed by others in the profession. Surely someone with a conscience about KSR’s age would have confronted KSH and/or notified the authorities - especially her parents!
Another reason for my doubts of his guilt came from a clinical professional friend who confirmed my understanding that the serious labels ‘pedophile’ and ‘groomer’ cannot be determined without criminal and or psychological examination. To accuse someone of either of these without proof is a-kin to defamation - even for public figures. Those labels are so serious that, when ‘haters’ use them so callously in these posts about KSH, it is understandable (and I believe appropriate) that his supporters -who have kept themselves knowledgeable about this case- get inflamed and shoot posts back at them.
You have articulated what I had thought, and so much more, far better than I ever could have. Along with all the other supporters, I am pleased the allegations against KSH have been legally proven false and that the main accuser is behind bars awaiting his day in court.
I am not an anti-fan of Kim Sae Ron. She was valuable human being and a highly talented actress who left this world far too early. My support for KSH and his innocence in no way reflects on my absolute sorrow for her tragic passing. I know I am not alone in those feelings. May she rest in peace.
The first scene in Ep 8 - I was horrified. So Ji Sub is such a greate actor!! Throughout this entire drama, you can feel his emotions right along with him.
@16106004 This is an important point, but I'd add one clarification. Cross-border liability isn't unique to South…
All points noted and appreciated.
It is unfortunate that the unintelligent, willfully ignorant posts may be considered mere opinion by investigators. But collection and investigation of these posts and their sources is needed to determine if they are mere opinion or a coordinated effort to, at the very least, manipulate public opinion against KSH.
It’s also a case study, for those who are actually studying cyber crimes, in how to harass a celebrity, and manipulate public opinion while staying under the legal thresholds of stalking and defamation.
I'm sorry to say this, but posting walls of text filled with generic definitions and excerpts from legal statutes…
Your sarcasm blanked in false kindness is noted.
I am not some online justice police. I’m a responsible viewer who, along with others who are of the same mind, are boiling mad at repeated attacks on an innocent human being by the willfully ignorant.
I was not planning to engage specific haters beyond the education I already posted. It’s there now if they are willing to read so they can increase their understanding and heed that information as the kindest warning to stop and avoid potentially serious consequences that they will probably receive.
It’s my favorite drama for both leads - and for PMY, I LOVED What’s wrong with Secretary Kim.
Excellent chemistry between JCW and PMY. And I think Yoo Ji Tae was perfectly cast as Kim Mun Ho. When I suggest people watch it I say it’s a love story between three people but it’s not a love-triangle.
I feel we’re being set up for season 2. And if there’s a season 2 then Agent Kim CANNOT DIE!!!
Amazing! Respect to you for all your hard work putting this information together. Thank you for sharing it here in MDL. Your post should help answer questions for anybody who is or has honestly remained in doubt about KSH.
I was new to KDramas last year when I learned about KSH and this scandal (about 2 months into it by then). I have followed this case very closely ever since.
I have mentioned in other posts on other platforms where my doubts of KSH’s guilt stemmed from several issues, but primarily around the ability for such a relationship between two well known celebrities to exist, secretly, based on public information about their many respective projects, etc. It made no sense to me, given how celebrities lives are managed, for them to have had a relationship when she was 15-17, unnoticed by others in the profession. Surely someone with a conscience about KSR’s age would have confronted KSH and/or notified the authorities - especially her parents!
Another reason for my doubts of his guilt came from a clinical professional friend who confirmed my understanding that the serious labels ‘pedophile’ and ‘groomer’ cannot be determined without criminal and or psychological examination. To accuse someone of either of these without proof is a-kin to defamation - even for public figures. Those labels are so serious that, when ‘haters’ use them so callously in these posts about KSH, it is understandable (and I believe appropriate) that his supporters -who have kept themselves knowledgeable about this case- get inflamed and shoot posts back at them.
You have articulated what I had thought, and so much more, far better than I ever could have. Along with all the other supporters, I am pleased the allegations against KSH have been legally proven false and that the main accuser is behind bars awaiting his day in court.
I am not an anti-fan of Kim Sae Ron. She was valuable human being and a highly talented actress who left this world far too early. My support for KSH and his innocence in no way reflects on my absolute sorrow for her tragic passing. I know I am not alone in those feelings. May she rest in peace.
Jang.
It is unfortunate that the unintelligent, willfully ignorant posts may be considered mere opinion by investigators. But collection and investigation of these posts and their sources is needed to determine if they are mere opinion or a coordinated effort to, at the very least, manipulate public opinion against KSH.
It’s also a case study, for those who are actually studying cyber crimes, in how to harass a celebrity, and manipulate public opinion while staying
under the legal thresholds of
stalking and defamation.
Again, I appreciate your post.
I have, however, said my peace. Have a blessed day.
I am not some online justice police. I’m a responsible viewer who, along with others who are of the same mind, are boiling mad at repeated attacks on an innocent human being by the willfully ignorant.
I was not planning to engage specific haters beyond the education I already posted. It’s there now if they are willing to read so they can increase their understanding and heed that information as the kindest warning to stop and avoid potentially serious consequences that they will probably receive.