I'm Thai and all I can say is we 'Thai' don't really know the differences between Mandarins and Oranges. We call…
Not really. In Thailand, a mandarin is generally considered just another type of orange. We call it som mandarin, but in everyday conversation most people would simply call it som (orange).
P.S. I even asked a friend whether she could tell the difference between a mandarin and an orange, and she just said, “Nope” loll.
Something feels off about the criticism toward Episode 4.
Sure, Episode 4 might be the first episode that people aren't universally praising as one of the best episodes of the series, but that doesn't make it mediocre or bad by any means. After the emotional peak of Episode 3 and that absolutely cinematic confession scene, did people really expect the series to keep escalating at the same pace without slowing down even a little?
It makes perfect sense for the story to take a step back, let us process our emotions, and spend some time building the backgrounds of its characters. In Barth's case, the episode gives us a much clearer understanding of why he no longer believes in God. That storyline is heartbreaking, emotionally convincing, and honestly far more compelling than simply reducing it to "because he's gay."
Just look at how difficult it is for him to even consider believing in God again. His father, a devout Christian, hit him with the Bible—a sacred book that was supposed to represent love and faith—simply because Barth wasn't the son he expected him to be. Then there's his mother, who struggled every single day because she was afraid that standing up for herself would somehow anger God. Those details matter. Without them, Barth's line, "I'm not God's favorite son," would risk feeling like a dramatic slogan rather than a deeply earned emotional truth.
Even the use of the song "Before (ก่อน)" in this episode carries tremendous meaning. It serves as a way to express Tanrak's longing for his parents. When he adds "You'd left..." before each lyric, the scene becomes devastatingly emotional. It hit me hard the first time, and it still hurts on a rewatch.
For those who may not know, "Before (ก่อน)" was written after the songwriter experienced the loss of someone who meant a great deal to him. The original concept reportedly included "You'd left..." before each line of the lyrics, but it was later removed because it felt overwhelmingly heartbreaking. That context makes its use here even more fitting, reflecting exactly how Tanrak feels toward his late parents.
This episode also serves as an important bridge in Tanrak's character arc. We see him beginning to question both himself and his faith. He even says, "I wonder if my parents were still here, would I still be living this life?" He removes his prayer beads as well—a symbolic moment that suggests he is starting to let go of the attachment he has carried since his parents' passing. Considering that the beads were originally offered to the sacred statue by his mother (as mentioned in Episode 2), the scene carries even greater emotional weight.
Personally, I think Episode 4 is incredibly important because it lays the foundation for everything that follows. The storytelling is simply presented in a quieter and lighter form, giving viewers a chance to breathe after the emotional intensity of Episodes 2 and 3. I don't see it as a pacing problem at all. If anything, I see it as a necessary and carefully constructed setup for the final two episodes
This lines up beautifully with the character arcs;
Tanrak (Fourth)
At first he seems like the one most attached to the idea of heaven, salvation, destiny, or “the right path.”
But after loving Bart, that certainty weakens. The wording becomes conditional — “if heaven exists…” — because emotionally, heaven loses meaning if Bart isn’t there.
It’s less theological doubt and more:
“What’s the value of paradise if I have to lose you?”
Bart (Gemini)
Meanwhile Bart starts from the opposite direction — someone more skeptical, detached, or unconvinced. Yet after meeting Tanrak, he arrives at:
“Heaven exists.”
Not necessarily because of religion, but because he experienced something transcendent through love and connection.
But then comes the tragic twist: Even after believing in heaven, he still rejects it if Tanrak cannot be with him there.
So both characters end up converging emotionally from opposite directions:
* Tanrak: belief → doubt * Bart: doubt → belief
…and both ultimately choose each other over the abstract idea of heaven.
That’s genuinely strong songwriting, especially because the distinction is tiny enough that many listeners would miss it on first listens. The lyricists trusted the audience to notice the nuance instead of spelling it out directly.
According to the director, it’s a real orange tree. The host of the show also teased him about how fake the…
The series was filmed in Chonburi, one of the provinces in central Thailand. This province has long been known as the homeland of tangerine oranges. However, the tangerine oranges there do not look at all like the oranges we saw in the series, so I think the tree shown in the series may have been newly planted just for the filming scenery.
do you think the orange tree is real, or just a prop?
According to the director, it’s a real orange tree. The host of the show also teased him about how fake the orange tree looked, but he confirmed that it was real.
The thing I scared most is how beautiful the lyric is.. I mean, I can strongly feel tragic! I'm packing up the tissue!!! Here is the translation from all those parts from the trailer we get to hear. I tried to preserve the beautifulness of the lyrics but I don't really think I can lolll.
Choir:
“I’ve long heard of a place somewhere far away, A land as beautiful as a dream. A place where life lasts forever, And I once wished to go there someday.
But ever since I met you… I’ve come to see a whole new world. As long as you are here, As long as we are here together… I don’t want to be anywhere else.
Fourth Verse:
Every second I spend with you Feels like I’ve found the paradise I’ve always dreamed of. My world has become so beautiful That I wish time could stop right here… forever.
If heaven truly exists, No matter how beautiful it may be… I’m no longer sure I still want it. All I need is you by my side.
If you are not in heaven, Then perhaps… I wouldn’t want to go there at all.”
Did anyone else get a kind of "Bad Buddy Lite" vibe from the first episode? It's cute so far but at this…
I read the novel already and it's one of my most favorites of all time. All I can say is it's not really a bad buddy vibes but I can't really say much in order to prevent me from spoiling anything.
Regarding Ko1 (Progress) acting, it's neither Progress nor the Director's fault on this. Ko 1 character in the novel is exactly as what Progress is portraying in EP1. He is quite annoying at first but, later on, he will absolutely grow on you. In the novel, I ended up loving and adoring Ko1 character so much I kept coming to read again from time to time.
I smiled like crazy for the whole episode last night. They are so good at what they are doing. This might actually be the first series from the director that I could really enjoy! Also, speaking from a book fan, they did 100% justice on the novel for this 1st episode.
Does anyone know what song plays at the end of the trailer?
It's the original song, not any covers. This really convinced me that When Oranges Fall is definitely coming in 2026.
Here’s a glimpse of the song from the pilot. I think Almond and Progress sang it themselves. The beginning fits Ko Two perfectly, and when the hook comes in with both Almond and Progress singing together, it feels undeniably made for Ko One and Ko Two.
⸻
The word “love” that I dare not say I keep it inside because I’m afraid of getting hurt. But now that we are far from where we began, the more I think about it — maybe if I say it, things would be better.
I will tell you I love you… I will tell you I love you so you’ll know. No more watching from afar, no more just sitting quietly. I want to tell you I love you so you’ll know — to honor the time I’ve waited for you.
I rewatched the pilot and noticed that When Oranges Fall already has its own OST featured in it. That’s pretty rare, and it convinced me that this project is definitely happening in 2026. GMM even produced an original OST for it instead of using a cover song.
Here’s a glimpse of the song from the pilot. I think Almond and Progress sang it themselves. The beginning fits Ko Two perfectly, and when the hook comes in with both Almond and Progress singing together, it feels undeniably made for Ko One and Ko Two.
⸻
The word “love” that I dare not say I keep it inside because I’m afraid of getting hurt. But now that we are far from where we began, the more I think about it — maybe if I say it, things would be better.
I will tell you I love you… I will tell you I love you so you’ll know. No more watching from afar, no more just sitting quietly. I want to tell you I love you so you’ll know — to honor the time I’ve waited for you.
Is there really no tag here "Main characters share the same name" Considering there are a few dramas with…
I don’t think “Main characters share the same name” is even a plot point here, at least not in the novel. It’s just a coincidence, and “Ko” is a very common name in Thailand. There are a few moments where Ko One complains about them having the same name, but that’s not a plot element at all.
In the novel, the focus is on the development of the friend group—Ko One, Ko Two, Auga, August, and Achi—both in terms of their physical growth and their emotional journey. We follow the gang from middle school to their university years, though the main story takes place during their high school days. Each of them tries to discover their own identity: their gender, their life goals, and their personalities. We experience all their joys and hardships throughout this coming-of-age story.
I can't express how I love these characters and it's really nice to see that all of them are like walking out from the novel. I really can't wait!
Fun Fact: "17th Spring" and "When Oranges Fall" (also in GMMTV 2026 lineup) were written by the same author.
I read "When Oranges Fall" and it's easily one of my top most favorite novels. "17th Spring" caught my eyes from the 2026 trailer as well so I'm planning to read this later.
This is my most anticipated series from GMMTV2026 after watching all the trailers. The reason is because I love the novel so much I could rant about it for days and Progress is the real picture of Ko One I imagined back then (though I didn't know him yet back then but he is like walking out from the novel) while Almond is also very much like the Ko next door (Ko two)
For those who are curious of what is this about, I translated the synopsis for you all.
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‘Ko’ was a boy who adored oranges more than anything in the world — but not just any oranges. They had to be from the tree next door. No other oranges tasted as good or made him as happy as those. Fragrant, sweet, delicious — everything about those homegrown oranges, Ko loved completely.
Except for one thing: the true owner of the orange tree. Another boy, whose name was just as cool as Ko’s. Everyone called him “Ko Two,” as was customary when two people shared the same name. And so the first boy naturally became “Ko One.”
But the similarity ended with their names. Their personalities were complete opposites — as if heaven had sent a celestial being to punish a mischievous little orange demon.
As the story of the two Kos unfolded, they grew — both in body and in the feelings quietly forming in their hearts. They didn’t fall in love at first sight, but after spending some time truly getting to know each other, love began to blossom.
Oh my gosh! The final episode was AMAZING! The whole series was SUPERB!!! I literally couldn't imagine how the series would end without being cursed by some of the audiences but they just managed to make what seems to be impossible.
If boss is so hellbent on being kan's "follower" and protecting him, why did he try to frame him via that pen…
He didnt't frame Karn. I think Karn just dropped the pen there when he took it with him the first time they talked about Living Will. You can see that Boss is really confusing on why Karn is working with the police to outing him. I believe the pen is just a mere plot catch bait and it made sense to me.
P.S. I even asked a friend whether she could tell the difference between a mandarin and an orange, and she just said, “Nope” loll.
Sure, Episode 4 might be the first episode that people aren't universally praising as one of the best episodes of the series, but that doesn't make it mediocre or bad by any means. After the emotional peak of Episode 3 and that absolutely cinematic confession scene, did people really expect the series to keep escalating at the same pace without slowing down even a little?
It makes perfect sense for the story to take a step back, let us process our emotions, and spend some time building the backgrounds of its characters. In Barth's case, the episode gives us a much clearer understanding of why he no longer believes in God. That storyline is heartbreaking, emotionally convincing, and honestly far more compelling than simply reducing it to "because he's gay."
Just look at how difficult it is for him to even consider believing in God again. His father, a devout Christian, hit him with the Bible—a sacred book that was supposed to represent love and faith—simply because Barth wasn't the son he expected him to be. Then there's his mother, who struggled every single day because she was afraid that standing up for herself would somehow anger God. Those details matter. Without them, Barth's line, "I'm not God's favorite son," would risk feeling like a dramatic slogan rather than a deeply earned emotional truth.
Even the use of the song "Before (ก่อน)" in this episode carries tremendous meaning. It serves as a way to express Tanrak's longing for his parents. When he adds "You'd left..." before each lyric, the scene becomes devastatingly emotional. It hit me hard the first time, and it still hurts on a rewatch.
For those who may not know, "Before (ก่อน)" was written after the songwriter experienced the loss of someone who meant a great deal to him. The original concept reportedly included "You'd left..." before each line of the lyrics, but it was later removed because it felt overwhelmingly heartbreaking. That context makes its use here even more fitting, reflecting exactly how Tanrak feels toward his late parents.
This episode also serves as an important bridge in Tanrak's character arc. We see him beginning to question both himself and his faith. He even says, "I wonder if my parents were still here, would I still be living this life?" He removes his prayer beads as well—a symbolic moment that suggests he is starting to let go of the attachment he has carried since his parents' passing. Considering that the beads were originally offered to the sacred statue by his mother (as mentioned in Episode 2), the scene carries even greater emotional weight.
Personally, I think Episode 4 is incredibly important because it lays the foundation for everything that follows. The storytelling is simply presented in a quieter and lighter form, giving viewers a chance to breathe after the emotional intensity of Episodes 2 and 3. I don't see it as a pacing problem at all. If anything, I see it as a necessary and carefully constructed setup for the final two episodes
Fourth (Tanrak): Sawan "Thar" Mee Jing, which is literally "If heaven does exist"
Gemini (Bart): Sawan "Nun" Mee Jing, which is "Heaven truly exists"
The contrast between “ถ้า” (thar / if) and “นั้น” (nun / that) is subtle in Thai, but emotionally huge.
* “สวรรค์ถ้ามีจริง” = “If heaven really exists…”
→ hypothetical, uncertain, almost questioning.
* “สวรรค์นั้นมีจริง” = “Heaven truly exists”
→ affirmative, accepting that it’s real.
This lines up beautifully with the character arcs;
Tanrak (Fourth)
At first he seems like the one most attached to the idea of heaven, salvation, destiny, or “the right path.”
But after loving Bart, that certainty weakens. The wording becomes conditional — “if heaven exists…” — because emotionally, heaven loses meaning if Bart isn’t there.
It’s less theological doubt and more:
“What’s the value of paradise if I have to lose you?”
Bart (Gemini)
Meanwhile Bart starts from the opposite direction — someone more skeptical, detached, or unconvinced.
Yet after meeting Tanrak, he arrives at:
“Heaven exists.”
Not necessarily because of religion, but because he experienced something transcendent through love and connection.
But then comes the tragic twist:
Even after believing in heaven, he still rejects it if Tanrak cannot be with him there.
So both characters end up converging emotionally from opposite directions:
* Tanrak: belief → doubt
* Bart: doubt → belief
…and both ultimately choose each other over the abstract idea of heaven.
That’s genuinely strong songwriting, especially because the distinction is tiny enough that many listeners would miss it on first listens. The lyricists trusted the audience to notice the nuance instead of spelling it out directly.
Choir:
“I’ve long heard of a place somewhere far away,
A land as beautiful as a dream.
A place where life lasts forever,
And I once wished to go there someday.
But ever since I met you…
I’ve come to see a whole new world.
As long as you are here,
As long as we are here together…
I don’t want to be anywhere else.
Fourth Verse:
Every second I spend with you
Feels like I’ve found the paradise I’ve always dreamed of.
My world has become so beautiful
That I wish time could stop right here… forever.
If heaven truly exists,
No matter how beautiful it may be…
I’m no longer sure I still want it.
All I need is you by my side.
If you are not in heaven,
Then perhaps… I wouldn’t want to go there at all.”
Regarding Ko1 (Progress) acting, it's neither Progress nor the Director's fault on this. Ko 1 character in the novel is exactly as what Progress is portraying in EP1. He is quite annoying at first but, later on, he will absolutely grow on you. In the novel, I ended up loving and adoring Ko1 character so much I kept coming to read again from time to time.
This will forever be remembered lollllll
Here’s a glimpse of the song from the pilot. I think Almond and Progress sang it themselves. The beginning fits Ko Two perfectly, and when the hook comes in with both Almond and Progress singing together, it feels undeniably made for Ko One and Ko Two.
⸻
The word “love” that I dare not say
I keep it inside because I’m afraid of getting hurt.
But now that we are far from where we began,
the more I think about it — maybe
if I say it, things would be better.
I will tell you I love you…
I will tell you I love you so you’ll know.
No more watching from afar,
no more just sitting quietly.
I want to tell you I love you so you’ll know —
to honor the time I’ve waited for you.
Here’s a glimpse of the song from the pilot. I think Almond and Progress sang it themselves. The beginning fits Ko Two perfectly, and when the hook comes in with both Almond and Progress singing together, it feels undeniably made for Ko One and Ko Two.
⸻
The word “love” that I dare not say
I keep it inside because I’m afraid of getting hurt.
But now that we are far from where we began,
the more I think about it — maybe
if I say it, things would be better.
I will tell you I love you…
I will tell you I love you so you’ll know.
No more watching from afar,
no more just sitting quietly.
I want to tell you I love you so you’ll know —
to honor the time I’ve waited for you.
In the novel, the focus is on the development of the friend group—Ko One, Ko Two, Auga, August, and Achi—both in terms of their physical growth and their emotional journey. We follow the gang from middle school to their university years, though the main story takes place during their high school days. Each of them tries to discover their own identity: their gender, their life goals, and their personalities. We experience all their joys and hardships throughout this coming-of-age story.
I can't express how I love these characters and it's really nice to see that all of them are like walking out from the novel. I really can't wait!
I read "When Oranges Fall" and it's easily one of my top most favorite novels. "17th Spring" caught my eyes from the 2026 trailer as well so I'm planning to read this later.
For those who are curious of what is this about, I translated the synopsis for you all.
______________________
‘Ko’ was a boy who adored oranges more than anything in the world — but not just any oranges.
They had to be from the tree next door. No other oranges tasted as good or made him as happy as those.
Fragrant, sweet, delicious — everything about those homegrown oranges, Ko loved completely.
Except for one thing: the true owner of the orange tree.
Another boy, whose name was just as cool as Ko’s.
Everyone called him “Ko Two,” as was customary when two people shared the same name.
And so the first boy naturally became “Ko One.”
But the similarity ended with their names.
Their personalities were complete opposites —
as if heaven had sent a celestial being to punish a mischievous little orange demon.
As the story of the two Kos unfolded, they grew — both in body and in the feelings quietly forming in their hearts.
They didn’t fall in love at first sight, but after spending some time truly getting to know each other,
love began to blossom.
This is just PURE AMAZING!!!