The scene where Hira is laying down on the desk in the school... Is that supposed to be a My Beautiful Man role…
I realised you might be right about this. What you said make me remember what Hira has said at the end of ep 5, that "he can`t go back to the way it was anymore".
The scene in their old school might be only about Hira, like him going to the school to remember for the last time how they were before, to go there before he will take the next step, when he can still control his feelings. This scene might happen at the beginning of the episode or after Kiyoi gets angry at him at him ( after he ask him that he never tought he might like him). And the following scene at the school, with Kiyoi being there and what happens after might be Hira imagination. But i wonder why did they have to complicate things so much. It may be important for Hira to reflect on his relationship with Kiyoi tough.
Do you guys think Koyama will stay as persuasive as he was in Drama CD? He didn't crash Hira's house with the…
I think he will only appear in that scene with Kiyoi and that`s it. They have to also know they are limited by time, i don`t think he will appear more than this.
Long version of final teaser video is here 😂 have fun torturing yourself with theories guys https://twitter.com/utsukare_mbs/status/1471767359329554437?s=21
OH GOD, you are amazing. This is what i`ve been waiting to see today. I am so nervious, i`ll go see it know.
An amazing analysis of this part of Kiyoi personality. Like, you understood him as well as someone who has read…
Here you can read the spanish translation of the CD. Is 18+ too, just like how the novel is, it has some explicit sex scenes. I can send you the link where the CD can be accessed if you get curious how the audio drama actually is. Just write me about it. https://suzumiya-bren.blogspot.com/2021/07/utsukushii-kare-espanol18bl.html?m=1
I'm thinking about this series way too much lol but I guess it goes to show you that they've really caught and…
An amazing analysis of this part of Kiyoi personality. Like, you understood him as well as someone who has read the novel. Thanks for sharing your toughs on this.
I was bothered a bit too by the additional hug between Koyama and Hira, that has brought even more misunderstanding…
If they don`t show more of why Hira is being like this when it comes to Kiyoi and how his kind of love it actually is, i am sure a lot of people will be disappointed, i will be devastated. But i don`t think they will change this, because until know they haven`t avoided going deep on how flawed the characters are.
In case someone missed it , Kiyoi has huge abandonment issues after his mother remarried . He has been quite lonely…
Yes. This part is in the CD/novel too, and i was impressed they added it, since it make viewers really understand more deeply Kiyoi personality. This is also why he is so upset with Hira when they see each other again, he was shocked that even him has choose to leave him.
Drama followed the CD until half of ep 5. The part with Koyama story is completely rewritten in drama. In CD Koyama…
Nope. Even through Koyama actions were changed a bit in the drama, his personality was portrayed to be really similar with the one he has in the CD/novel, he is as manipulative and selfish as in the source material. And he also won`t give up on Hira easily, until he will see Hira really trying to put distance between them, and at that point he is able to see that he don`t have other option but to give up on Hira.
This is just fiction but since everyone and their mother like calling Kiyoi as abuser and red flag this much,…
I had a friend like Koyama and is a bit exhausting being in their presence, because i felt that she has that image and impression of me that i have to be, like i had to force myself to be who she wanted me to be. Like, because she was always behaving so proper, so correct according to moral rules, i couldn`t have deep and honest discussions with her, because i was afraid that she will judge me. Like is not her fault, but when you encounter people that makes you feel like this, is not healthy to be in their pressence, because you end up forcing to be a different person than you actually are.
Am I the only one who didn't like the additional Koyama and Hira interaction in this episodes instead of paying…
I was bothered a bit too by the additional hug between Koyama and Hira, that has brought even more misunderstanding to Hira and Kiyoi relationship and i wished they cut off more of the discussion between Hira and Koyama since it was a bit too long, but it think it was needed. Things didn`t happened ideally, but they have the next episode too. As long as the development of the relationship and the acting is good, i am okay with all that they will show us. They have to have some creative freedom tough, it keeps things more realistic, and not everything that is in the novel/CD will flow smoothly and look good in an adaptation.' I still have high hopes about the next ep. Did you checked the two new photos added in the PHOTOS section, because they are stunning.
The acting in this last episode was superb, truly outstanding. The subtleties left me riveted. I am both mystified…
There is another translator beside Straylations ( who looks like she actually dropped the translation), that is currenty working on translating the novel, and she plans to finish the first novel next month, and will most likely make it public then. I will add her translation in the dicussion thread of the novel i made in this page, when she decides to make it public. There is also available a CD to listen too, but is in japanese, and the only thing that can help understanding more what it happens in the CD is an spanish trascript of the CD (basically a translation in spanish).
The acting in this last episode was superb, truly outstanding. The subtleties left me riveted. I am both mystified…
I loved reading your comment, i love reading comments like this. About Koyama and Hira dating, i was just writing to someone else about this. There were definitely not dating. I have the impression from the CD and what someone has mentioned from the novel, that Koyama brother has misunderstood the part where Koyama and Hira were dating, because Koyama has told him he likes Hira, so Koyama brother tought they are already dating. But, Koyama didn`t bother to solve this misunderstanding, he was content letting his brother misunderstand since he knew it will help him in his pursuit of Hira. And this is really manipulative and selfish considering Hira personality ( he goes with the flow a lot of times too), since if Kiyoi hasn`t come into Hira life again, is highly likely he would have gone out with Koyama, even through it would have been more likely because he liked how different and kind Koyama seemed to be with him compared with Kiyoi. I am so proud of Hira for being so clear and harsh with Koyama this episode, at least he is aware of the fact that Koyama liking him is hurting him too, and making him hard to let go, and he is also able to see that him not making things clear with Koyama is hurting Kiyoi. Hira is at least not that hopeless.
WoaH, this photo and the other one it gives me goosebumps, they are really touching and impressive taken. I don`t know how to express myself better when it comes to those two photos, they are stunning.
WoaH. Guys, check the new two photos added, it almost gives me goosebumps, they are really touching and impressive taken. I think the next episode will surpass our expectation after all, even through i have not clue what is with that scene with them in that classroom.
Yes. They adapted this part very well, since even through things were changed a bit, this episode really grasped…
Yes. This was really low of him. I have the impression from the CD and what someone has mentioned from the novel, that Koyama brother has misunderstood the part where Koyama and Hira were dating, because Koyama has told him he likes Hira, so Koyama brother tought they are already dating. But, Koyama didn`t bother to solve this misunderstanding, he was content letting his brother misunderstand since he knew it will help him in his pursuit of Hira. And this is really manipulative and selfish considering Hira personality ( he goes with the flow a lot of times too), since if Kiyoi hasn`t come into Hira life again, is highly likely he would have gone out with Koyama, even through it would have been more likely because he liked how different and kind Koyama seemed to be with him compared with Kiyoi. I am so proud of Hira for being so clear and harsh with Koyama this episode, at least he is aware of the fact that Koyama liking him is hurting him too, and making him hard to let go, and he is also able to see that him not making things clear with Koyama is hurting Kiyoi. Hira is at least not that hopeless.
What you said make me remember what Hira has said at the end of ep 5, that "he can`t go back to the way it was anymore".
The scene in their old school might be only about Hira, like him going to the school to remember for the last time how they were before, to go there before he will take the next step, when he can still control his feelings.
This scene might happen at the beginning of the episode or after Kiyoi gets angry at him at him ( after he ask him that he never tought he might like him). And the following scene at the school, with Kiyoi being there and what happens after might be Hira imagination. But i wonder why did they have to complicate things so much. It may be important for Hira to reflect on his relationship with Kiyoi tough.
They have to also know they are limited by time, i don`t think he will appear more than this.
This is what i`ve been waiting to see today.
I am so nervious, i`ll go see it know.
I can send you the link where the CD can be accessed if you get curious how the audio drama actually is. Just write me about it.
https://suzumiya-bren.blogspot.com/2021/07/utsukushii-kare-espanol18bl.html?m=1
Like, you understood him as well as someone who has read the novel.
Thanks for sharing your toughs on this.
But i don`t think they will change this, because until know they haven`t avoided going deep on how flawed the characters are.
Like, because she was always behaving so proper, so correct according to moral rules, i couldn`t have deep and honest discussions with her, because i was afraid that she will judge me.
Like is not her fault, but when you encounter people that makes you feel like this, is not healthy to be in their pressence, because you end up forcing to be a different person than you actually are.
Things didn`t happened ideally, but they have the next episode too. As long as the development of the relationship and the acting is good, i am okay with all that they will show us.
They have to have some creative freedom tough, it keeps things more realistic, and not everything that is in the novel/CD will flow smoothly and look good in an adaptation.'
I still have high hopes about the next ep.
Did you checked the two new photos added in the PHOTOS section, because they are stunning.
There is also available a CD to listen too, but is in japanese, and the only thing that can help understanding more what it happens in the CD is an spanish trascript of the CD (basically a translation in spanish).
About Koyama and Hira dating, i was just writing to someone else about this.
There were definitely not dating.
I have the impression from the CD and what someone has mentioned from the novel, that Koyama brother has misunderstood the part where Koyama and Hira were dating, because Koyama has told him he likes Hira, so Koyama brother tought they are already dating.
But, Koyama didn`t bother to solve this misunderstanding, he was content letting his brother misunderstand since he knew it will help him in his pursuit of Hira.
And this is really manipulative and selfish considering Hira personality ( he goes with the flow a lot of times too), since if Kiyoi hasn`t come into Hira life again, is highly likely he would have gone out with Koyama, even through it would have been more likely because he liked how different and kind Koyama seemed to be with him compared with Kiyoi.
I am so proud of Hira for being so clear and harsh with Koyama this episode, at least he is aware of the fact that Koyama liking him is hurting him too, and making him hard to let go, and he is also able to see that him not making things clear with Koyama is hurting Kiyoi. Hira is at least not that hopeless.
I can`t wait to watch next episode.
I think the next episode will surpass our expectation after all, even through i have not clue what is with that scene with them in that classroom.
I have the impression from the CD and what someone has mentioned from the novel, that Koyama brother has misunderstood the part where Koyama and Hira were dating, because Koyama has told him he likes Hira, so Koyama brother tought they are already dating.
But, Koyama didn`t bother to solve this misunderstanding, he was content letting his brother misunderstand since he knew it will help him in his pursuit of Hira.
And this is really manipulative and selfish considering Hira personality ( he goes with the flow a lot of times too), since if Kiyoi hasn`t come into Hira life again, is highly likely he would have gone out with Koyama, even through it would have been more likely because he liked how different and kind Koyama seemed to be with him compared with Kiyoi.
I am so proud of Hira for being so clear and harsh with Koyama this episode, at least he is aware of the fact that Koyama liking him is hurting him too, and making him hard to let go, and he is also able to see that him not making things clear with Koyama is hurting Kiyoi. Hira is at least not that hopeless.