Kim Yoonmi 김윤미 金潤美

After all, she said, "I'm sorry, I won't bring it up again." And if they had done it, then the clothes would have been across the floor, instead of neatly hung up, and she'd have said something like, "I enjoyed last night, Do you want to do it again sometime?"

BTW, I stan a man that can hold off for better reasons.

I agree on that count. And she tried to make it up to him. They also showed she had feelings for him by was slow on the uptake. Though she really should have sat down and talked to him, and made it absolutely clear why, and how she felt about things, instead of trying to poison him.

But yes, I do think the whole deserves to get her family killed while ignoring the rest of the plot is an odd choice given what was established about her family and the general plot.

Because they didn't do anything, but she tried to convince him into doing it when he didn't want to. He valiantly held off and won.

Applying critical thinking skills here...

So, she was immature on *how* she rejected Rong Yu. I've seen comments that her rejecting Rong Yu when he's so hot, or whatever is so wrong, but that's shallow. She stated her reasons why she didn't want to marry *anyone* she wanted to stay with her family and become a general like her father, loyal to the crown.

That's a fair want. Not everyone wants to have "a man" (nor is straight, BTW.... She's allowed to say no.

But how she rejected Rong Yu and her back and forth was unfair to him. She should have been straight with him, sat him down, communicated clearly she had no romantic interest in anyone. But I have to admit when I was 16, I also was not that great at rejecting people. I didn't know how to do it. I had no model. Think about someone who had a crush on you, but you didn't have a crush on them? Did you have the same ability to gently reject them without help of other people?

So this line is shaky.

However, poisoning him, is over the line. 100% wrong. And she should have been appropriately punished for that. The story got back at her by disabling her hand. The death of her family shouldn't be tied to it.

Her beating the Song Boys up in the alley, 100% justified. They were picking on her and her friends who could not defend themselves. They have more power, and in basic Confucius, they should have some sort of check on them. She's allowed to check people above her who are doing wrong, and by the basic old Chinese laws, they were doing wrong. Some people were here, saying she deserved for her family to DIE because she beat up the Song Boys, but she didn't know who they were at the time. And objectively, the Song Boys were wrong.

I don't get the whole, she should have done nothing in that case and she deserved her family being killed because she's a woman that beat up boys. So what? So if a woman beats up boys picking on weaker people than her, her family deserves to be killed? What? That makes no sense to me. What kind of pro-women statements are that?

Yes, this might have led to their father being angry at her, specifically, but I don't think it's enough to want to kill her family--rather the He family already had a lot of political power, which was demonstrated in the Snow man scene. This is why he wanted to take them down. He wanted more power.

As for the Uncle. I hated him when I saw him. He's a control freak from the first. I don't know if it's intentional on the writing, but he didn't come off that protective of Rong Yu. Instead, he's controlling. So his justification for the whole, "But, but she poisoned my nephew" feels hollow in the story. I'm not sure if something was cut... but his whole writing feels like a power grab away from Rong Yu.

The evidence are these events around the uncle:
- When Rong Yu wanted to marry her, he was against it from the beginning.
- When Rong Yu was humiliated, he insisted on stepping in.
- When Rong Yu said he'd settle it, the Uncle wanted revenge *already* on this.
- When Rong Yu wouldn't eat the pancake the Uncle wanted him to eat, he got upset at him and yelled at him, rather than asking calmly what it looked like.
- When Rong Yu was intellectually disabled, the Uncle saw how close Rong Yu felt towards Jiuling, and instead of simply asking her which pancake he ate, even if he *hated* her, he immaturely forced Rong Yu to eat things he didn't want to eat and locked her out.
- When Rong Yu *got better* when he had contact with Jiuling, and there was evidence of this fact, and Rong Yu's attendants said as much, the Uncle *ignored* them, instead of trying to figure out what he was doing wrong, almost as if he didn't want Rong Yu to recover.
- There weren't that many doctors that visited Rong Yu via the Uncle, nor did he try that hard to find a cure.

To me, story-wise this points to the fact that the Uncle didn't care about Rong Yu at all, has a short temper, and likes being the head of the Astrology department again. I totally disbelieve he wanted to have revenge on Jiuling, because there were a ton of better ways to do that prior. What he wanted was a power grab above all else. The Uncle knows her foolish actions soon after led her hand to being disabled in order to protect Rong Yu. So I don't buy his excuse. She also guided Rong Yu home, and generally has been helping him out. He's way too cold toward Rong Yu prior to justify that reasoning.

Also, I really hate the reasoning, but the actor is so hot, so she's a terrible person for not accepting him. C'mon, look at the characters and their actions.

I'm going to go into some plot details about the female main character below and what I feel is fair and not fair to judge her on... also maybe weaknesses of the writing.

I also think the Uncle character is weak in the drama and needs fleshing out in a few directions.

BTW, I'm not the type that goes with "Everyone agrees." I make judgements based on the contents of the story.

You can edit the comment and put a spoiler tag in, I believe.

I agree and I don't really have primary sexual attraction (ace spec). He's an AH, tbh, not going into too many details, but I skipped out after episode 4 and he became a major AH in that episode. It's not about his looks, it's about his actions and the promise they'll end up together and fall in love after that. If the pacing was slightly better on the drama so one felt it was say, Ruyi's palace, I might forgive the drama, but the events are stacked too fast and close together for the female lead to get anywhere--like prove her innocence (in that incident).

The SML and the female lead feel like the better romantic pair, but the drama doesn't promise that. There was a stronger promise in dramas like Ooku (the old Taiga drama, not the newer ones with the gender switch) and in that the promise was fulfilled elegantly.

I can survive bad subs, well enough, but abusive Male lead characters aren't my thing unless there is a take down promised, such as in New Life Begins. But there is no strong promise here and the writing is making the female character seem less capable than she's meant to be.

I feel like if she had gone through the whole trial thing, and lost, we'd be more invested than her having an empty rescue.

Low budget production, much like Wulin Heroes, but the plot is silly satire type. Since I don't care that much about production values, it's a good watch for now. The humor is decent. If you didn't mind Wulin Heroes, you won't mind this production either.

Ah, so many jokes do better in Korean, and it's sad people are going to miss them because the jokes simply don't translate well.

She's playing someone half her age, but the actress herself is older, so visually it's an easy way to reflect her mental age. At the start of the drama she's supposed to be daddy's little girl and very spoiled because of it, getting her way no matter what, so you don't think about how she's in her 30's, the easiest way is to style her much younger. It reflects the character's maturity level very well. She's supposed to come out of it. Usually I don't care about "does it look good" 'cause really it's about communicating the character and who they are. People give actresses enough crap for "not looking pretty enough" and "playing roles that are too feminine" and roles that are "too masculine." "Not smart enough." "Too smart, thus boring." "Not really smart, why do they keep saying she is." that we really should give them a break and think instead, "Does it communicate the brief about who the character is?" And in this case, I think it does. The character's age mental age is super immature.

She's slowly taking responsibility and defending him.

I don't think he's that type, plus the audience would turn against him.

Actress is 30--so it's a way to visually age her down.

I know that, but the writer should delve into it somewhat, and two cheats don't make a right, especially since Sin Yu seems to be unaware of the situation on his side.

But then I'm not a fan of the whole the ML is a terrible guy... so let's make the SML a worse guy--who hits women instead of emotionally abuses them.

So I dislike the double cheater situation too. I think the writer can do better.

The spoiler free version, but Sin Yu (Male lead) doesn't clean up before declaring he has feelings for Hong Jo (FL). And the writer doesn't address him very well in the script on why, though she has enough of the seeds on why she doesn't really go into it like she should. This makes me less than thrilled especially when he puts the decision to cheat on Hong Jo...

Honestly, kinda yes, because Jang Shin Yu isn't cleaning up his mess before he makes it, which people will know what that means when they watch the show. He honestly should have cleaned it up before he made it.

The thing is on this page earlier they had it with the proper romanization of Yuuki, but changed it after the subs came out. I also dislike the o v. ou because there is also the oo in Japanese and the three do make a difference. And for typing out the name, it does matter. I dislike the diacritical marks because it's hard to type out, it wasn't really part of the original system, and it's not consistent across languages what it means. But everyone knows what say Kyouko v. Kyoko means. I dislike the imprecision, so always favor the most precise method.

If they want to use the diacritical mark then there are ways to sub that in.

The best part of the drama--hands down the directing choices are some of the most creative. I'd follow that by the actors they chose, and then production values last. But this makes the drama better than one expects as the unique directing choices lets the characters come to life and makes it feels like a Josei manga.

BTW, Yuuki in the subs is misspelled. The correct spelling according to the official website is Yuuki. 結城真臣--his kanji are these. On the official website that's ゆうき まさおみ. And as someone who knows Japanese, that does matter And for the subbers, shame on you for not spelling his name in romaji correct. It was correct up in this website, but someone changed it to the wrong spelling, because they don't read Japanese? (Or the subbers are playing dirty and covering up for their blatant mistake).

The official website is here:

https://www.mbs.jp/kekkon_yoteibi/cast_staff.shtml
Oh look, I didn't lie. And yes, the subbers should have fixed it in the first place.

And yes, I've done subs before, and yes, I was this meticulous because I do know it absolutely does matter in Japanese, because the difference is between Obaasan and obasan. So spelling out the vowels correctly does matter, so this website should reflect the correct romaji and screw over the subbers who are purposefully getting it wrong because they didn't bother looking up his name on the official website. Fix it~~~

If you like that sort of thing, I heard the book pulls the same sort of thing which someone read through, and ironically the screenwriter was trying to fix, but got lost along the way. And it's sad when I'm sitting here and going, I could have fixed both of it. Screenwriters tend to use connecting index cards to outline... and both the book (from what I gather) and the drama could have used them as long as the strings had character motivations. Flat out fans of the book series hated this particular book the most.

I mean there is this point where she is determined to go down the mountain and there is this speech the ML gives the female lead that's not that convincing and at that point even more people dropped like flies. They were like, WTF this sucks and makes absolutely no sense. Because before that point, she was really, really determined to leave and said everyone sucks, why did the dress thing go down the way it did, and I hate everyone, I'm only here to support my friend. And then he gives this speech with, I think you should stay without a really good reason and she says, "OK." And at that point everyone hard blinked, WHAT?

But don't worry, the event I referenced is later in the series where Zhi Yuan makes a mind-numbing choice and everyone on the front page was crying out and you'll understand why I'm objecting so strongly. We spent THREE episodes prior (as in just prior to the episode where this happens) establishing a freaking spell FL could have used and SHE FORGOT TO USE IT and then she's all shocked at the result. C'mon. That's 100% a writing decision.