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I think the one to gain the most from this drama will be the male lead actors. their charm and acting was magnified to major levels. the tortured soul and the healed one. honestly Chineses dramas this years are upping their game more than kdramas

Is tmr the express package? cz the angst would be better we watched the rest in one go

this is a mess. clearly their romantic entanglements with others are getting out of hand where at some point after they officially agree to get together they won't be able to make it public. she's already a widowed concubine which is pretty much an impossible status to have as a prince's wife let alone a grand prince. the way the 2fl seems to not mind her "husband's" affair and the fl is publicly entangling with this girl using the ml's body foreshadows an end with her as the wife and the fl as his concubine. clearly the king will die at this point making this ending the only way for them to be together and it pisses me off cz there were other dramas that chose similar endings so it's not a far off possibility.

ppl there is no propaganda with this webtoon/drama. it's basic relationship problems in a romcom, it can't all be flutters with no substance so the serious talks of having a child or not or marrying or not are gonna be addressed but it's just the opinions of these characters so let's not label it as propaganda when one choice was made and not the other. there are other dramas/webtoons with the opposite choice so let's just enjoy the leads falling in love.

yes, marriage with kids too

exactly, it get the feeling she'll believe the ml pursued the fl to provoke the 2ml and not the other way around. unfortunately just cz a person wishes to believe something and act blind to signs doesn't mean they won't have it all explode on them later on. the mother will get her shock when the truth comes out and she was already not close to the ml so that's a lost relationship but the one I fear for them is the fl's father. he'll probably find out his reaction to the so called culprit before the truth is out so it'll be cause for breakup. hope it all works out in one ep it's already the last few ones left so a time skip or breakup is to be expected.

she did try to listen in on the convo between him and his son while outside his office so I had that theory too but she's so submissive and actively ignoring her ex's presence too much. she rarely visits the grave not talk about him and seems to truly believe he abandoned them by offing himself and running away so she's harbouring resentment, added with the Grief and the ex's partner (current husband) being supportive/ also believing he caused the tragedy might've all be why she married the guy and not him coercing her. she seems to genuinely buy his nice act

yikes the one thing I hate the most is when a person is completely blind to the truth or does not know something and the ml's mother is in the worst position ever. tho I get grief can make u close to someone else but was the 2ml's father that good at hiding his colours? he's so red flag coded at the moment but maybe cz she's already married to him and his stepson isn't blind so he has nothing to hide but the fact that even the 2ml is only discovering how dark his dad can be now makes one wonder how the ml's the only one to doubt him. I feel sorry for him cz in his path to finding out what happened to his dad, he had to lose his mother but how can he let her on in his investigation when she blissfully married the guy. can't imagine how she'll feel when she realises who she's with.

does anyone have spoilers on the 2ml's role? it's honestly not that bad to call him a villain and he seems to have morals enough to turn against his father in the end so I hope he ends up being an ally where his misguided hate turns into brotherly banter with the ml. he already reacted to his father going too far once (tor's ep) so I hope it's foreshadowing

so do we think the second prince guy is the end villain or is it the beginning of an alliance with the leads against his brother?

wow I knew their marriage wasn't gonna last from the spoilers but I couldn't see how they would spin it cz they were so sweet and perfect so far but the way they managed to make us turn 180 degrees on the guy in a few mins was chef's kiss. he's a walking red flag. it shows that cheating does not have to be physical for it to be damaging. plus she has a point, she keeps finding out stuff and not him telling her so even if he didn't lie, he chose to not say anything till he had to which is already a red flag in a relationship, let alone the mess he got himself into with the junior.

pei zhen is the son of uncle pei and ml is the son of the mother. the hatred is probably cz ml always suspected the pei family for framing his father since he's the partner to the company they both founded and like many plots, one will be greedy for power. the mother probably Is the naive type and cz of grief, she remarried the guy who he was "there for her" thus being step families. might've not started with hate but what the ml was "stealing" from the safe was him looking for evidence and the son probably is in the dark so he's just misunderstanding him (I'm still hoping for a future mending cz he doesn't seem too far gone but he might end up siding with his father eventually). the murder mystery game is probably based on the ml's story and a source of closure for him

For a woman who loves control, I can’t beleieve RSB kept that steward around (he obviously has a mind of his own and dares to decide what to do with “court official documents” as he pleases without informing the head. Also, I hope the ml being mistreated in the duke’s mansion isn’t the real problem that’s causing him such dejection cz honestly that would make him weak and that’s not his personality. The fl treated him worse and he managed fine so it has to be a big thing cz it’ll ruin the show otherwise.

ok the vibes are giving 2ml's father aka the uncle partner of the ml's dad as the main villain that the ml is looking for but it seems the mother remarried him so this'll get messy. it's sad when the mother is in the dark to schemes so she ends up with the enemy. it'd be cool if she's actually sacrificed herself by marrying into the family to find out the truth but that's too far fetched and she doesn't seem the type so obviously the ml's the one doing the investigation alone and suspecting the family (hard not to when the heir isn't hiding his true colours so why not suspect the dad).

oh no i was really hoping for a normal second lead couple where the friend's husband isn't a cheater but i guess they're using this trope here. they seemed healthy so far so the change in their story was not necessary but i guess he'll cheat with the junior and her broken heart will be healed by the kind friend of the ml. why? not every ml's friend and fl's friend need to end up together. spoilers also confirm the end couples but i was hoping for a change at least since the other cliche of the dad being framed by his partner might also be used here. classic tropes are nice but not when they're overused.

it's most probably the uncle/partner to the company aka the 2ml's father who basically adopted him out of guilt or cover up. he even told him he can't do anything right now but can grow and gain power to uncover the truth (playing innocent) and that's why he's hesitant to talk to his mother cz he's already suspecting him and the mother seems to still be close to the uncle. I hope the rivalry he has with the 2ml isn't vicious tho and might become brotherly cz he seems like not a bad guy (just trying to take down a rival but not to the point of death or something) so if his dad turns out to be the bad guy and feels remorse after finding out then that'd be nice. I hope he doesn't become the obsessive type towards the fl and stays as reasonable as he was so far

it's a sad waste of actor's talents again. what's with the bad melodramas this year? last summer, dynamite kiss, this one... have the writers lost touch with realistic writing just to bring back classic tropes? those tropes were only loved when utilised properly but otherwise it's a shitty experience like this. make it make sense. childhood friends to lovers, cinderella story, 2nd chance romance aren't to be mistreated this way

I hope the ex isn't his romantic interest nor someone he'll help cz she's annoying both as a person and a professional. the prosecutor is more on par with him tho it's not the kind of vibe they have but who else is better in this drama?

it seems so, I was kinda hopeful after her reaction to his "affair" for something more but I guess they'll play the annoying pests to the leads' relationship under the guise of "love". the tsundere 2ml and the naive 2fl. But I'm more interested with the king's true side. he's not so far gone that the ml would need to cause a coup and take his place but he's not good enough to stay king at the moment so if this to be a fresh drama it'd need the ml to act as an advisor in place of the corrupt minister to wisen up the king (his woman is the one mudding his mind to the influence of the minister) and considering he still cares for the ml a bit it might not be too late to save their relationship. Also the fl's status will not allow a queen position so the ml needs to stay as a prince so she can at least be his wife and not concubine.

anyone else think the uncle is the obvious one behind the mistake and not the father? might even be why he's hesitant to talk to his mom on the phone cz he found out the betrayal and he doesn't want his mother to be hurt. it would honestly be fresh if the father did in fact make a mistake and the ml's struggle is coming to terms with the knowledge of his dad being flawed (his suicide shows it might've just been a mistake not an intentional decrease in the quality of the building to cut costs or something) rather than a malicious relative cz that's an overused trope (although his career was originally to follow in his dad's footsteps and uncover the truth, he's become successful based on his talents so it's ok to be happy and continue) .