Unfortunately nothing has changed even after years and now it's worse with the ongoing genocide in Gaza
It is honestly disrespectful for you to accuse Uyghur Muslims in China of being "forced" to act a certain way just because their lives don’t match the narrative you've been fed. That kind of thinking doesn’t show care, it shows how little you actually value their voices. You clearly don’t give a crap about Uyghurs muslims , Hui Muslims, or any of the other Muslim ethnic groups in China who live their lives with dignity, culture, and faith intact. There are thriving Muslim communities, mosques in nearly every city, and yes, even halal cafeterias in Chinese universities for Muslim students. I personally know Muslims living there who pray, fast, attend mosque, and live normal lives. But instead of listening to them, you dismiss it all because it doesn’t fit the image you’ve been taught to believe. That’s not activism , that’s arrogance pretending to care.
Unfortunately nothing has changed even after years and now it's worse with the ongoing genocide in Gaza
You keep accusing me of bias while doing the exact thing you claim to stand against , repeating one side of the story, ignoring the rest, and calling anything that doesn’t fit your narrative fake or staged. Let’s start with your claim that Muslims in China are banned from practicing Islam. That’s just not true. There are over 20 million Muslims in China, more than in many Western countries and even some Middle Eastern nations. There are over 35,000 mosques across the country. If Islam were truly being erased, how do you explain that number? How do you explain Hui Muslims, who live freely across China, pray openly, wear hijab, run halal restaurants, run mosques, go on livestreams in full niqab, and post openly about their faith every day on platforms like Douyin and Xiaohongshu? You say people are forced to look happy for the cameras, how convenient. Every positive video is propaganda, every negative one is the truth. That’s not cautious analysis, that’s selective confirmation bias. You haven’t talked to people in Xinjiang. You haven’t visited China. You haven’t even taken the time to explore Chinese platforms where real people are actually sharing their lives. Instead, you treat emotional, unverified clips from Instagram as hard evidence, and then call me arrogant for not accepting them as gospel. That’s not how real research works. Now let’s talk about what you never bring up: the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, or ETIM. This wasn’t some peaceful independence group, it was a radical terrorist organization with ties to al-Qaeda. They were behind bombings, stabbings, and attacks that killed not just Han Chinese but Uyghur civilians too. They openly called for jihad to create an Islamic caliphate in Xinjiang and had members trained in Afghanistan and Syria. The US even listed ETIM as a terrorist group for nearly two decades before quietly removing them in 2020, not because they stopped being dangerous, but because it suddenly became politically useful to weaponize Uyghur rights against China. So no, China didn’t just create security measures for fun — they were responding to real violence, radicalization, and separatist threats that groups like ETIM fueled for years. And don’t lecture me about East Turkestan natives. That term was invented in the 20th century by separatists pushing foreign agendas, the vast majority of Uyghurs in Xinjiang do not identify with that movement. And just so we’re clear, that same movement has literally posted AI-generated propaganda showing East Turkestan holding hands with Israel — while Palestinian children are being bombed. You think that’s solidarity? That’s who you’re standing with? You said you're cautious. So prove it. Apply that caution to all sources, not just the ones that tell you what you want to believe. Stop accusing others of being disrespectful just because they challenge you. Respect doesn’t mean agreeing with you. It means holding the same standard of truth across the board. And if you actually care about Uyghurs, then talk to them directly. Go on Xiaohongshu, Douyin, Weibo , hear it from them. Otherwise, stop pretending your carousel posts and recycled talking points are anything more than well dressed western/US pushed propaganda.
Unfortunately nothing has changed even after years and now it's worse with the ongoing genocide in Gaza
let’s break this down because you’re clearly trying to sound reasonable while slipping in the same tired propaganda. First of all, you admit your sources aren’t reliable but then still try to use them to support something as serious as genocide? That alone tells me you’re not serious about the truth, you’re serious about pushing a narrative. Saving a few Instagram reels and reposting them doesn’t count as research. If you actually cared about credible information, you wouldn’t be pointing to random TikToks and captions as your proof. Now you ask, “Have you been to Xinjiang?” Have you? Because that knife cuts both ways. If you’re going to make emotional appeals about talking to people from there, maybe try going on platforms actually used in China like Xiaohongshu, Douyin, or Weibo, where hundreds of Uyghur creators and citizens are sharing their lives right now. Go watch their videos. Go read what they say. You’ll find them living their culture, speaking their language, showing their food, weddings, everyday life, none of the dystopian horror show you’re trying to paint. You mentioned “official articles from Xinjiang residents.” Great. Then let’s hear from them directly, not through cherry-picked exiles tied to US-funded groups like the World Uyghur Congress and the NED (National Endowment for Democracy), which exists specifically to push regime-change agendas under the guise of democracy promotion. Most of the popular testimonies being cited have been widely debunked or exposed as politically motivated, and many of those people haven’t even lived in China for years. You say “just because it isn’t filmed doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.” Sure. But when it comes to genocide, a term with serious weight, you better bring more than vibes and speculation. If millions of people were really being sterilized, tortured, or disappeared, there would be overwhelming, undeniable proof. There isn’t. You don’t get to treat a few translated tweets and edited montages like they’re on the same level as verifiable documentation. I already advised you to stop blindly believing the Western media and actually look beyond the propaganda that’s been weaponized for decades to justify war, destabilization, and regime change. Now, as for your point about Muslim-majority countries, yes, many of their governments are failing Gaza. That doesn’t make their evaluations of Xinjiang suddenly invalid. Countries like Egypt, Indonesia, Pakistan, Iran, and Turkey have had delegations visit Xinjiang. They didn’t find genocide. That’s not some pro-CCP bias, it’s that the reality on the ground didn’t match the Western headlines. Uyghurs aren’t being erased. They’re going to school, running businesses, celebrating holidays, and living their lives. You think all of that could be faked on a national scale? You want sources? Start here: UN independent delegation in 2019 could not confirm genocide. Multiple Muslim delegations have visited Xinjiang and rejected the genocide claim. China’s own census and public records show the Uyghur population has grown significantly over the past two decades. Thousands of hours of footage and posts exist from inside Xinjiang that directly contradict the horror stories you’ve been fed. So don’t say “I don’t blindly believe” while repeating every narrative that confirms your bias. And don’t try to emotionally manipulate the conversation with “you haven’t been there” when you haven’t either. If you’re serious about truth, look at both sides. And if you're still relying on Instagram videos as proof of genocide, you're not doing research,you’re just reposting propaganda.
Consider joining in the *boycott* of all mainland Chinese dramas until they stop the abduction, brain washing,…
Boycotting Chinese dramas based on claims that come from politicized, Western-funded sources with no solid proof or firsthand evidence isn’t activism, it’s performative. Repeating terms like “ethnic cleansing” without real investigation or critical thought just shows how easily people fall for propaganda. If you actually care about justice, start by questioning the sources you’re getting your information from.
Unfortunately nothing has changed even after years and now it's worse with the ongoing genocide in Gaza
What’s happening in Gaza is a real, brutal genocide, visible to the world. But comparing that to the so-called “Uyghur genocide,” which has no solid proof beyond Western-funded reports and Instagram posts, just shows how deep the propaganda runs. It’s frustrating to see people guilt-trip Muslims for not pushing a narrative built by the same powers responsible for decades of war and destruction in the Muslim world. Supporting Palestine is about truth, not copying whatever the West decides to weaponize next.
Unfortunately nothing has changed even after years and now it's worse with the ongoing genocide in Gaza
Sorry, but Instagram links aren’t “facts.” If your main source for something as serious as a genocide is a few social media posts and recycled articles, that’s not proof, that’s narrative repetition. Just because there are many articles doesn’t mean they’re telling the truth, especially when most of them trace back to the same Western-funded sources with political agendas. Have you actually listened to people from Xinjiang? Have you read anything outside of Western media bubbles? Or looked into why so many Muslim-majority countries have rejected these genocide claims after visiting the region themselves? I used to believe all of this too, until I started researching for myself and realized how much of what we’re told is driven by politics, not facts. If you're serious about human rights, at least question where your information is coming from before repeating it like it's undeniable truth.
ming sheng's friend. ming sheng stops them in the later episodes. hopefully, he'll cut them off
Oh sorry again to bother you. So like can you tell me what episode these girls apologise to the fl? Cause they are part of the reason that im cared to continue? So if its fine with you can you tell me what episode it is they apologise to her? Sorry for bothering you. I know i have asked too much but bullying triggers me soo bad
ming sheng's friend. ming sheng stops them in the later episodes. hopefully, he'll cut them off
Oh so like doe sthe bullying lessen?? Also this one girl i heard keeps bullying the fl and also heard and saw that one girl with the bangg and her friend bullying the female lead?? Im only on ep 1 and i feel disgusted at seeing her bully the fl from skme of the spoilers. Can you tell me how long does she bully the fl?? Like does she get put in her place cause ugh just warching her through clips on tik tok makes me mad
I have a question to the people who have watched all 11 epsiodes that are out? Did the scene where the fl is pulled by the hair and forced to kneel down happened in ep 11 or yet?
Loll exactly like ugh i know how bad misogyny is and patricahal our society especially since im also from the middle east, the the culture is soooo freaking toxic like hella toxic when it comes to women and ive went through it. So honestly the reason why i am very scared to start this and watch is littlerally because it will trigger me alot like alot and i was honestly worried the fl is a pushover type of female lead who does not know how to defend herself?
Oh okay and im verr Y sorry to bother you again. I promise this is going to be the last time but arent the male leads friends bullyin the fl?? And do they like stop like at least wikk the male lead tell them to basically leave her alone cause ugh...
Oh yeah im worried about that to be honest cause i also herd her grandma hates wlmen and one thing i hate is annoying grandmothers who think they can do whatever they want soo pretty nervous about that
Oh okay thats good that the bullying is minor. Im very sorry to bother you again but i saw like a spoiler of the whoe family like having i dont know like dinner? But i heard they hate women and so were they like shaming the fl or blaming her for something or what?? Csus ei heard the grandma has soo much hate for women or something
Y sorry to bother you again. I promise this is going to be the last time but arent the male leads friends bullyin the fl?? And do they like stop like at least wikk the male lead tell them to basically leave her alone cause ugh...