It's already clear they are altering the last episodes from the novel and I have a bad feeling we will get the…
Okay the novels handling of this is exactly in line with the FL's very independent and self-protective characterisation and in line with logic and sense- even if a child has a misunderstanding causing resentment it was her moms responsibility as the adult to dedicate herself to mending that and staying in touch with her daughter. If the drama goes in a diffeerent direction I will erase it in my brain and assume this is the end.
What on earth is whoever is translating the subtitles doing? It's one thing when a company relies on AI which creates awkward grammar etc but this feels like a human translator adding in words like "queen" "princess" and "babe" for their own amusement? Whoever that is should genuinely be fired- completely goes against the aim of translated subtitles in capturing the tone and sentiment of the original words.
Okay so far delightfully trashy and over-the-top, almost like a vertical drama. There's a charm to this sort of thing so I hope it sticks the landing (wish I'd waited until there were more eps, this is definitely the sort of thing you can binge in one night)
Watching this almost 40 year old man bumble around with his assistant while analysing the FL's texts like a teenager with a crush instead of *communicating like a man* with his established girlfriend when he's having a public dating rumours with another woman... is not as cute as the background music is trying to portay. Maybe such tropes work in school dramas but these are grown professional adults so it ends up being yet another note on the MLs record of things that make him unattractive. Anywho I'm interested in how her relationship with her mom is going to play out-- from what novel readers have said, the FL seemed to have a misunderstanding as a child about her parents divorce. Considering she seemed so young in the flashbacks (like 10 or under) I do think it would be the parents responsibility to literally go to the ends of the earth to mend a childs misunderstanding rather than just... accepting the estrangement and essentially abandoning your pre-teen daughter? But I'm interested to see how it plays out. The FL's actress is doing a great job- I really feel for her.
Him feeding her strawberry with his own hands in episode 14 practically jumpscared me - I immediately paused and went back to episode 13 to see if I accidentally missed something and then rushed here for anyones indication of what had happened here. I get that they probably cut stuff down but whatever communication she must have had to give him to indicate she was softening towards him (i.e the moment she was the first to "reach out" for once, to show him she wanted to reciprocate his feelings a bit) feels like literally a CRUCIAL point in their relationship development and they're not showing it? Even if they'd simply shown her knock on his door and say something like "I guess I missed you a bit" and shown his reaction to understand she was lowering her walls. But their interactions jumped from her rejecting him to them getting cozy in his kitchen??
I'm really suprised at the pace of the show. I definitely would have thought they would already reached their 6th year and big break up by now. I assumed we would see their seperate lives for at least one ep with a reunion at the end, and then at least 3 /4 episodes of their slow reconcilliation and getting together in their new solid relationship before the final episode where thought we'd see them in their new life.
Your comment is kind of weird. How can you prefer a potential murderer over someone who was just rude and biased?…
I'm thinking of enemies-to-lovers ancient chinese dramas and the like- where the characters are acknowledgd as morally grey or even black, usually there's some sort of bigger fantastical plot motivations for why the characters hate eachother (revenge for families, plotting for the throne etc).
In this drama I feel like the writers want me to think this guy is just a misunderstood "good guy" CEO who judged her by mistake but now wants to take it back (now that she has a "respectable" job, suddenly she's worth giving the benefit of the doubt- forget that the initial misunderstanding was deeply routed in misogyny in the first place and had the potential to completely devestate her professional reputation in ways she might have really struggled to come back from) . Now that he's realised his mistake, he spent the first 10ish episodes not recognising the FL's personal boundaries, flirting despite being her boss and being told no many times, stepping over the line at work, while being her boss. It's too much like the insidious real life misogyny so many women face in the workplace in very real situations (unlike the overblown exaggerated conflict in a fantasy show where the morally grey characters are recognised as such).
I do think chemistry also plays a part for sure though, because I'm not yet really seeing it from these two. I think they're both great actors though so I still think that comes down to the writing and the fact most of their early interactions feel like something out of a "inappropriate workplace interactions" training video rather than a romcom. Maybe also if I was younger and less experienced in professional settings dominated by men I could stand him a little more.
On episode 9... not even Miles Wei can make this ML charming. I've enjoyed dramas where ML's literally try to murder the FL and I ship it more than I ship these two. This guy sucks. At this point I'm still watching out of pure fascination over whether they'll be able to turn it around and make him likable at any point. (Also I enjoy the FL and am interested in her progression as a pilot, I feel like it's such a unique storyline. Maybe I've just got to pretend like the romance part of the show doesn't exist).
Somehow everytime I see a trailer for a next episode to see their silent treatment didn't even last an episode and they're already lovey dovey I'm always suprised! Girl pleease make him work for it even a little more! Never once have I been anticipating "the big break up" in a drama but I'm desperate for it. I need ML to experience some angst, for her to grow without him, and for him to grow through losing her- ASAP.
(I will say, I'm not saying it's bad writing or that it's offbrand for our FL- I get it, I do. I'm just looking forward to the big shift. This is why I wish they'd give us more episodes each day).
The ML has a daughter with the FL's dead sister? I don't mind him being a father (one of my fav romance dramas the ML is a single father) but am completely icked out that the drama intends to get the leads together considering he has a kid with her biological sister.... Probably somewhat more acceptable in the ancient times but personally I think I'll stop watching.
Feels like I haven't had a drama to really sink my teeth into for a while and now there finally is one! I like our leads- neither of them are outrageously perfect in any aspect (whether skill or smarts) so there isn't a huge inbalance in either direction, and it makes it more interesting to see how they're going to get themselves out of trouble. Also our ML calmly slipping out of his ropes and trying to sneak away because the Crown Prince's involvement made the game feel too big gave me *such* Aladdin vibes- I love a mischevious scheming street rat 😅
Just reading this description kind of gives me the creeps... the idea that a man would pretend to be your partner when you wake up with amnesia when he's actually not is more like a horror movie set-up than a rom-com set up. Is it just me? I might give it a chance though because I'm desperate for an easy watch and usually like Jung Hae-In....
Side eyeing the ML's characterisation for the way he never stood up for the FL when his bitchy teammate would bring her up in meetings. I mean, it's one thing to team up with a girl who hates your best friend because you also want to beat your best friend (I mean, I guess?) but for someone who's so obsessed with proving yourself in a fair competition you could at least be like "don't talk about her let's just focus on our own practice" rather than "you're right she's not my friend she's just a rival " I mean tf?? The comforting at the end of episode 6 felt unearned narratively for me. Maybe the ML actor just isn't pulling off the layers of emotion I'm supposed to be feeling from the adult Yu Bai character (sorry) but it appeared so easy for him to simply put his friendship with her down for his own gain (when she was willing to engage in a friendly rivalry) so the whole thing at the end of episode 6 felt hypocritical. Or at least too quick.
I think they should have had him more slowly learn her trust back again over at least one or two episodes.
I couldn't even tell you why exactly, but so far at least this has been one of my top historical cdramas of the year for sure. Couldn't even say one specific aspect is spectacular, I suppose I'm enjoying it cause it feels generally well-written and well-acted all round- plus a great balance of plot / slow subtle romance / light-hearted moments and ansgst.
I just wanna say I am so glad the tree conversation was "I want to hold on to you so much, but I won't because I want you to be happy" and not the "you should go I don't need you anway " fake-out that is a common trope in kdramas! Loved that there wasn't a silly manufactured misunderstanding between them but instead just them trying their best to overcome some very complex obstacles like adults.
Had to double check and the genre tags on this really are: Comedy, Romance, Life, Medical -- I feel like melodrama should be there and in first position because our ML is just going through tragedy and injustice over and over again.
I actually wish this drama was much longer and we got a longer, slower Jui depression arc after the crash (I know, I know) because Lee Jae Wook acted so well in the resturant scene with the ex saying he didn't deserve to be happy. It was *so good* and makes me think if this drama took a different tone he could have pulled off a really good exploration about how episodes of depression can be pervasive and really pull you under and then the pay-off of that scene where it hits his ex that her saying that to him when he was at his lowest was life-alteringly damaging would have been even bigger. I also wish at this point we got to see him slowly be pulled out of the depressive episode and do some healing rather than another big disaster for the last two episodes. Maybe that's just cause I love a healing melodrama where characters finally get some well-earned healing after grief- Just Between Lovers, anyone?
Also second couple are so cute- I think the SML is going to be stoked when he finds out the news!
I'm really curious too, but reading the novel & watching the drama so far, LXX has abandonment issues. His…
Aah thank you, this actually makes a lot of sense now- I was wondering how she could possibly "betray" him worse than the things he's accepted and I was so worried it would feel like a plot hole but you're right - nothing she's done is as bad as abandoning him / leaving him behind like his mother. In that case I can understand his trauma response... still hope that their tumultuous period isn't too angsty , they've both been through so much heart break!
I'm really curious after *all* of these ups-and-downs where Xi xiao's love for her and trust in her has prevailed despite it being clear to him that she was "using" him -- and now knowing what she's been through in her life and how alone she is -- what possible misunderstanding could force them apart? To the extent that he would be mean to her when they meet in the future? Even as a teen (at his most immature and short sighted) he can't hold a grudge with her long enough to keep the silent treatment going and then when he's 30 with all the forsight and maturity to look back on their dire childhoods he's going to hold a grudge with her? I hope it's not what it seems... I hope we get Sang Yan level "bullying" at *most*....
Really enjoying it so far! Some people are sceptical of the pacing for the romance but honestly sometimes dramaland tries to drag out two grown adults getting feelings for eachother like they're clueless children -- I find it refreshing that they're two attractive people who are hot for eachother, it seems perfectly natural they'd be hitting on eachother at this stage? It really can be that simple. Plus the early relationship ups and downs can be so fun-- nothing worse than a drama where the characters get together in the last 2 episodes when there's no plot left!
In this drama I feel like the writers want me to think this guy is just a misunderstood "good guy" CEO who judged her by mistake but now wants to take it back (now that she has a "respectable" job, suddenly she's worth giving the benefit of the doubt- forget that the initial misunderstanding was deeply routed in misogyny in the first place and had the potential to completely devestate her professional reputation in ways she might have really struggled to come back from) . Now that he's realised his mistake, he spent the first 10ish episodes not recognising the FL's personal boundaries, flirting despite being her boss and being told no many times, stepping over the line at work, while being her boss. It's too much like the insidious real life misogyny so many women face in the workplace in very real situations (unlike the overblown exaggerated conflict in a fantasy show where the morally grey characters are recognised as such).
I do think chemistry also plays a part for sure though, because I'm not yet really seeing it from these two. I think they're both great actors though so I still think that comes down to the writing and the fact most of their early interactions feel like something out of a "inappropriate workplace interactions" training video rather than a romcom. Maybe also if I was younger and less experienced in professional settings dominated by men I could stand him a little more.
(I will say, I'm not saying it's bad writing or that it's offbrand for our FL- I get it, I do. I'm just looking forward to the big shift. This is why I wish they'd give us more episodes each day).
I think they should have had him more slowly learn her trust back again over at least one or two episodes.
I actually wish this drama was much longer and we got a longer, slower Jui depression arc after the crash (I know, I know) because Lee Jae Wook acted so well in the resturant scene with the ex saying he didn't deserve to be happy. It was *so good* and makes me think if this drama took a different tone he could have pulled off a really good exploration about how episodes of depression can be pervasive and really pull you under and then the pay-off of that scene where it hits his ex that her saying that to him when he was at his lowest was life-alteringly damaging would have been even bigger. I also wish at this point we got to see him slowly be pulled out of the depressive episode and do some healing rather than another big disaster for the last two episodes. Maybe that's just cause I love a healing melodrama where characters finally get some well-earned healing after grief- Just Between Lovers, anyone?
Also second couple are so cute- I think the SML is going to be stoked when he finds out the news!