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I'm having this dichotomous experience right now watching this and loving it whilst at the same time cringing like mad when watching Duang With You...π€£ Duang is giving me agita whilst Toru-kun is giving me π₯°
I am on episode 38 of this incredible series, after binge watching it for the past two days. This is among the greatest Chinese drama series I ever watched in my entire life! So many incredible actors and so many interesting and engaging storylines going on at once...I was thrilled that it wasn't turned into some typical idol romance drama! The romance storyline was peripheral at best - just the way I like romance storylines. π Ni Da Hong as Lord Hu was perfect casting. He does extremely well with these complex villain or hero type characters. Even in the series it is clearly stated that the question remains as to whether his character Lord Hu was a loyal or treacherous official. In Ever Night he portrayed a character who was responsible for the slaughter of an entire household of over 100 people, but he was convinced he did it for all the right reasons. He interestingly enough repeated the same crime in this series for far less noble reasons. Bai Yu, Zhu Ya Wen and Yu Hao Ming kept me spellbound in every scene they appeared, especially when they all appeared together. They each shone brilliantly in their respective roles. Seeing Bao Jiang Feng in such a serious role after only recently having watched Love Like the Galaxy and his hilarious antics as the emperor in that series was a bit jarring for me. I just couldn't get used to it. π I'm not looking forward to finishing this, because I am loving it so much. But I just can't seem to stop watching it! β€οΈ
To be fair, it's not just the Chinese. There is a famous joke that to play Romeo, who was 14, you have to have…
I won't disagree with you in this respect. But still... wouldn't it have been more consistent if they had a younger actor play the younger role if they were willing to do it for the role of Hong Chu? That's my only real question.
I have only just started watching this and I am always amused with how Chinese dramas are always so adept at ignoring age and gender so wilfully. In some dramas they swear they can't tell that an obviously very feminine female is pretending to be a male. In this one they are pretending that a 42 year old man is actually a very young man. Why didn't they just have a younger actor portray his role until a later date, the way they did with Hong Chu? How very strange. Chinese dramas will never cease to perplex me...and yet always intrigue me at the same time. π
idk if you watch the drama by skipping some scenes or not, but clearly you missed some points. she knew how to…
Exactly! π― This was the problem I had with this series. So unrealistic! I don't mind the fact that all of these dramas are about female empowerment. Hoorah! Let's do that! π But when you make it so unrealistic and ridiculous, it seems like you are making a mockery of what you are trying to portray here. I don't know. Maybe that's just me...π€
As a financier in my former life, I have a problem with one thing about this drama series. North gave Yu a check (I'm presuming a cashier's check) for 250 million BAHT, which is roughly 8 million USD. Ignoring the fact that this is insane, it is also unrealistic in the sense that, the family was boasted to be a family of 10 billion (again, I am presuming BAHT). This means that he was allowed to just hand over 4 percent of the family's net worth without anyone saying anything. This makes no sense. No one would have given him that amount of power, let alone money. It was a cute storyline addition, but it was unrealistic and just plain silly. Just saying...π
This series was like a rollercoaster for me. At times I was really rooting for Chen Mobai, but at others when he was at his most self indulgent, self pitying and just plain selfish, upending the lives of everyone around him because of some snit he was in, I have to say that I really outright disliked him immensely. I wasn't a fan of Ms. Personality Minus either. I honestly don't get what it was that drew someone like Chen Mobai to someone like her. It didn't make sense to me. This series made me laugh, made me angry, and even made me a little bit sad once in a while. For that reason, I would say that it isn't exactly the worst thing to watch. Not a ringing endorsement, but not exactly a thumbs down either. That's pretty much the best I can say about it.
I just rated this a 10 after watching episodes 13 and 14...what an incredible series! π₯° And what Sung Mo did at the end of episode 14 was just too cool for words...this episode was phenomenal! This whole series is phenomenal! Where have I been all this time that I am only watching this now? π My heart is racing 1000 bpm at the moment, so I'm going to have to take a break and watch something else before going back to the final two episodes... even though I don't want it to end at all. π
The exchange in which you replied to a comment of mine has been blocked from my feed as I chose to no longer engage…
Thank you for understanding my opinion. I never ask anyone to agree with me, but simply to be able to understand and appreciate where I am coming from. Too many people here think that because they express an opinion it should be the only acceptable one. That was the primary reason I cut off contact with an earlier interlocutor.
I am not a fan of the fact that these brothers have no communication skills at all. I believe that it is both the cause and the effect of the fact that the younger brother is so dominant in his desire to protect and control the elder brother and the elder brother, just wanting to be left alone, allowing the younger brother to dominate him...at least until he meets Jimmy.
There is always a fatale in these relationships, whether it be femme or homme. The fatale element isn't always in their relationship with the person whom they target, but can also refer to the effect they have upon the relationship with the loved ones of their targets. As is the case here. Jimmy is a definite homme fatale here with regard to the relationship between Toh and Teh (you're right... not particularly ideal names...). He fed off of the fact that these boys do not communicate well with each other. Predators instinctively feed off of the weaknesses of their prey, and he read these boys perfectly well.
In my own list of perpetrators, I still would switch the places of Teh and Toh. But I also understand where you are coming from. Unlike you, however, I do feel that there is an opportunity for redemption somewhere. Humans are all flawed, so I enjoy the realism of this drama. No one is perfect. No one is innocent. My only objective in continuing to watch this is to see if redemption can be found, in what way, and by whom. It actually is very realistic that everyone sucks. We all, as humans, have our flaws and say and do things against our character in order to win people over. Women put on makeup in order to appear prettier than they really are to men. Men throw money around at bars and strip clubs that they don't really have, whilst their family is still waiting for dinner at home. The motivation is often just wanting to be accepted by someone...loved by someone. This is not childish. It is human nature. And all too realistic. I'm curious as to why you cannot sympathise with it. But I hope you can at least empathise with it.
There's no English translation of the novel yet, so maybe someone will write how it develops. I know Jimmy will…
I personally believe that this entire mess would be cleared up completely if Toh simply told Teh that Jimmy has broken their agreement. Then Teh can get back with Fah and Jimmy and Toh can continue to engage in whatever mess they are creating for each other in peace and harmony.
None of 4 main character is likeable. Jimmy is treacherous, deceitful and cruel. Toh is stupid, insincere and…
The exchange in which you replied to a comment of mine has been blocked from my feed as I chose to no longer engage any further with that particular interlocutor. However, I can reply to you based upon what you have written here. I agree with you that what Teh and Fah did was not only cruel and hurtful to Jimmy, as both of them knew that Jimmy had designs on Fah. (I won't claim he had actual feelings, because I don't believe he is capable of such a thing). However this has nothing at all to do with my position on the way Toh is hurting his brother by lying to him and continuing to hook up with Jimmy. Everyone keeps telling me that 'Teh should just tell Toh about Jimmy.' He DID! ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS! In episode 3, Toh even asked him 'Why do you keep bringing this up?' He warned him on so many occasions but Toh chose to ignore him and go his own way. And now he is ignoring his brother's pain and suffering and continuing to go his own way. I don't pretend that all four of them aren't pieces of cow pie in their own right. I'm just taking my stand as on the side of Teh and Fah as they are both, in my opinion, less culpable for the crime of hurting others than Jimmy and Toh. That is my opinion. Nothing 'patronising' about it.
Ain't nobody ask Teh to sacrifice for his brother. He just had to expose Jimmy's scheme and everything would have…
You are vulgar and crude and your language skills are abominable. It shows a certain level of ignorance when you have to rely on the use of such foul language in order to express an opinion. And yours is heavy on filth and very light on any logic. I'm finished with this exchange. Agree to disagree.
I am not a fan of the fact that these brothers have no communication skills at all. I believe that it is both the cause and the effect of the fact that the younger brother is so dominant in his desire to protect and control the elder brother and the elder brother, just wanting to be left alone, allowing the younger brother to dominate him...at least until he meets Jimmy.
There is always a fatale in these relationships, whether it be femme or homme. The fatale element isn't always in their relationship with the person whom they target, but can also refer to the effect they have upon the relationship with the loved ones of their targets. As is the case here. Jimmy is a definite homme fatale here with regard to the relationship between Toh and Teh (you're right... not particularly ideal names...). He fed off of the fact that these boys do not communicate well with each other. Predators instinctively feed off of the weaknesses of their prey, and he read these boys perfectly well.
In my own list of perpetrators, I still would switch the places of Teh and Toh. But I also understand where you are coming from. Unlike you, however, I do feel that there is an opportunity for redemption somewhere. Humans are all flawed, so I enjoy the realism of this drama. No one is perfect. No one is innocent. My only objective in continuing to watch this is to see if redemption can be found, in what way, and by whom. It actually is very realistic that everyone sucks. We all, as humans, have our flaws and say and do things against our character in order to win people over. Women put on makeup in order to appear prettier than they really are to men. Men throw money around at bars and strip clubs that they don't really have, whilst their family is still waiting for dinner at home. The motivation is often just wanting to be accepted by someone...loved by someone. This is not childish. It is human nature. And all too realistic. I'm curious as to why you cannot sympathise with it. But I hope you can at least empathise with it.