what she meant is that life is not an action movie where the underdog gains strength and stand up to his bullies! i.e. life is not rainbows and butterflies! This drama highlights the severe consequences of mental and physical abuse coupled with the lack of support at home due to poverty. Also you keep saying Non is killing people! How do you know that?! Have you considered the possibility that Non is dead!
Yes Non is a victim but if he kills people he is going to jail. isn't he? Being a victim doesn't mean that you…
Sorry love I didn't understand what you meant by the first part of your comment 🤔 Why should Por die?! No one said Por should die anyway but you're missing the whole point of the story. Por is the leader of the gang due to his parents' wealth and connections. That gang stole Non screenplay, gave him 0 credit for it, framed him for breaking the expensive camera, blackmailed him to pay for it, got him entangled with organised crime to pay the money and to add insult to injury they drugged and kidnapped him to hand him over to the Mafia to dispose of him! Non was either murdered or trafficked by the mob because, sadly, this is what happens to boys his age when they get captured by organised crime. Now you tell me how the punishment should NOT fit the crime! but again no one said Por or anyone else should die, we are halfway through the series and we still don't know enough to sit here and judge.
Yes Non is a victim but if he kills people he is going to jail. isn't he? Being a victim doesn't mean that you…
how do you know Non is the one doing the killing?! the last thing we've seen him do is charge at Top with a knife, cry hysterically and expose everyone for what they were doing to him.
is this a good watch? thinking of watching it with my best friend tmrw, we both like slasher films so we're wondering…
it is totally worth watching but I would recommend you keep a healthy distance from this discussion board because it's getting increasingly frustrating 😂
Yes Non is a victim but if he kills people he is going to jail. isn't he? Being a victim doesn't mean that you…
I think you're missing the main topic of this drama! Do you or do you not acknowledge that Non was being viciously abused?! because if you don't there's no point in me explaining the vicious cycle of psychological torture 😐
The victim blaming in theses comments is insane. People really don't get what bully does to someone mentally.…
Completely agreed with you 💯! I can't believe I'm having to explain, in specific details, the gravity of what Jin did to Non! 🤯 like seriously are they living in delulu land where cute little Jin is an angel who was betrayed by Non (who doesn't even know Jin had a crush on him, mind you) 😯 ? where am I 😒?
I did a rewatch of the first four episodes with the background information now and noticed some things I hadn't…
completely agreed. I had my suspension about about Fluke being the one who actually posted the video. Also regarding Phee and Jin I'm hoping Phee is playing Jin so he can deliver the punishment that he deserves.
He is a victim but chose the wrong path I don't care how hard it is, it was a wrong choice. Do I understand it…
That's shocking! I'm absolutely shocked and disturbed by your reasoning! You are literally blaming the victim to exonerate the perpetrator! he filmed it and wanted to publish it to ease his pain?!!! that doesn't make any sense! what logic is this?! He filmed and wanted to post the video as an act of revenge on Non for not loving him back, for having sex with the teacher for destroying the fantasy that Jin had built in his mind about them being together. that's how a teenager's mind works! Later on when they all went to shoot the rest of the movie at that house Jin sat down looking at Non with pure resentment in his eyes! Did you not see that?
After reading some comments it felt like Non was the only kid in the show. & Jin and his friends are responsible…
you couldn't be more wrong. They're all about the same age. Non was the weakest link. He was victimised by a group of bullies because he never stood up for himself and enabled others to take advantage and humiliate him. Bullies feed on that kind of characters because they are less likely to say anything back or hit back if they get hit. It's strength vs weakness. I can't believe I have to explain how bullying works in this day and age 😳
Yes, Jin deserves happiness, like Non. Why not? You judge Jin harshly without understanding his feelings that…
I'm not harshly judging Jin. I'm exposing Jin's character for what it truly is. Remember this is a drama and not real life. People can't control their feelings, but they should be able to control their behaviour/decisions. let's say, for the sake of the argument, that Jin recorded the video in a moment of rage. Even though the act of pulling out your phone and recording your "friend" in the most vulnerable position can never be a rash or a haste decision. but let's just accept that for a moment. Jin later on went home and meticulously uploaded the video online with a caption and then sat there literally shaking with rage contemplating whether or not to upload it online for the whole world to see!! That's not something Jin had done in a fit of rage, that's calculated to get back at his "friend" whom he's secretly in love with. Jin was getting back at Non because he turn out to be something other than the fantasy that he'd built in his teenage mind. And yes, we've all been teenagers and we've all made bad decisions, mistakes just like you called it. However, unfortunately, some of these mistakes are extremely worse than others. Some of these mistakes are deadly and have long lasting consequences on someone else's future. Do you really think you can atone for something as heinous as that?! If Non was alive somewhere did you really think he would've been able to show his face around the school or get into a descent university or even get a job when there's a video of him online in that position getting **** by his teacher?! Some mistakes are unforgivable no matter how many times you say you're sorry 😞 I really need you to understand the gravity of what Jin had done because that may impact your judgement in the future. As for Jin's ending, it's completely up to the writer to decide. whether it's given a happy ending or a well deserved punishment, again, it's up to the writer! to me as a member of audience, the character is completely irredeemable.
Maybe writer wanted the twist & made Jin character record it & later show ppl that he didn’t posted it.but we…
I don't even know who or what you're talking about?! Are you referring to Non? Non is not to blame for any of what was happening to him! he is the VICTIM in all this!
I don't think he did manipulate him on purpose . He thinks that he's being good to Non .In the reaction video…
Jin is not entitled to Non's feelings/body by any means. He has a crush on his "friend" and that doesn't justify feeling betrayed or angry towards Non. The only person who has a right to get angry is Phi because he is Non's BOYFRIEND
Maybe writer wanted the twist & made Jin character record it & later show ppl that he didn’t posted it.but we…
Trust me, the writer knew exactly what he was doing. He'd written the sex scene between Non and Mr Keng and the precise moment when Jin catches them in the act! ok, I'm going to get extremely graphic here only because I have to Non was bent down on the sofa with his pants down and Keng was literally behind him getting busy! can you imagine a position more vulnerable than that?! because I can't! Jin being Non's "friend" who's secretly in "love" with him was supposed to either barge into the room to confront them or storm out in rage/betrayal call it what you want. Pulling out his phone to record the scene was an act of revenge! which he's not even entitled to because Non isn't his boyfriend! he's not even aware of those feelings! Now the writer is free to give Jin whatever ending he thinks is best but to me the character lost all credibility and later on became irredeemable the minute Jin sat infront of the investigators and denied Non's presence during the shooting of the movie of his whereabouts afterwards. Does that make sense?
I wouldn't call that "love" per se Sometimes we see something from a distance and we develop a fantasy but when we get close enough, 9 times outta 10 we wish we hadn't! this is what happened to Jin when he uncovered one of Non's secrets, that fantasy shattered and all that was left was resentment. but the thing that made Jin worse than the average person was that need for revenge when he recorded the video.
And the plot thickens 😐... I don't really understand why anyone would wish Jin a happy ending with Phi or with anyone else after what he'd done! Let's say he truly had a crush on Non, to which Non was completely oblivious to, and let's say he felt shocked and betrayed (which he doesn't have the right to in the first place) when he saw him with Mr.Keng! why on earth would he grab his phone, record what he saw and then contemplate whether or not to post it online to shame and scandalise Non and the teacher. If he truly was a good person deep down somewhere, even after taking the video he could've confronted Non in private and told him that what he did was wrong and that he was shocked to discover it! What he did was vengeful, bitter and filled with hate. Personally, I can't imagine anything worse than filming your "friend" having sex with anyone and then post it online regardless of the circumstances surrounding that scandalous relationship.
Also you keep saying Non is killing people! How do you know that?! Have you considered the possibility that Non is dead!
Why should Por die?! No one said Por should die anyway but you're missing the whole point of the story. Por is the leader of the gang due to his parents' wealth and connections. That gang stole Non screenplay, gave him 0 credit for it, framed him for breaking the expensive camera, blackmailed him to pay for it, got him entangled with organised crime to pay the money and to add insult to injury they drugged and kidnapped him to hand him over to the Mafia to dispose of him! Non was either murdered or trafficked by the mob because, sadly, this is what happens to boys his age when they get captured by organised crime.
Now you tell me how the punishment should NOT fit the crime! but again no one said Por or anyone else should die, we are halfway through the series and we still don't know enough to sit here and judge.
because if you don't there's no point in me explaining the vicious cycle of psychological torture 😐
where am I 😒?
he filmed it and wanted to publish it to ease his pain?!!!
that doesn't make any sense! what logic is this?! He filmed and wanted to post the video as an act of revenge on Non for not loving him back, for having sex with the teacher for destroying the fantasy that Jin had built in his mind about them being together. that's how a teenager's mind works!
Later on when they all went to shoot the rest of the movie at that house Jin sat down looking at Non with pure resentment in his eyes! Did you not see that?
People can't control their feelings, but they should be able to control their behaviour/decisions. let's say, for the sake of the argument, that Jin recorded the video in a moment of rage. Even though the act of pulling out your phone and recording your "friend" in the most vulnerable position can never be a rash or a haste decision. but let's just accept that for a moment. Jin later on went home and meticulously uploaded the video online with a caption and then sat there literally shaking with rage contemplating whether or not to upload it online for the whole world to see!! That's not something Jin had done in a fit of rage, that's calculated to get back at his "friend" whom he's secretly in love with. Jin was getting back at Non because he turn out to be something other than the fantasy that he'd built in his teenage mind.
And yes, we've all been teenagers and we've all made bad decisions, mistakes just like you called it. However, unfortunately, some of these mistakes are extremely worse than others. Some of these mistakes are deadly and have long lasting consequences on someone else's future. Do you really think you can atone for something as heinous as that?! If Non was alive somewhere did you really think he would've been able to show his face around the school or get into a descent university or even get a job when there's a video of him online in that position getting **** by his teacher?! Some mistakes are unforgivable no matter how many times you say you're sorry 😞
I really need you to understand the gravity of what Jin had done because that may impact your judgement in the future.
As for Jin's ending, it's completely up to the writer to decide. whether it's given a happy ending or a well deserved punishment, again, it's up to the writer! to me as a member of audience, the character is completely irredeemable.
ok, I'm going to get extremely graphic here only because I have to
Non was bent down on the sofa with his pants down and Keng was literally behind him getting busy!
can you imagine a position more vulnerable than that?! because I can't!
Jin being Non's "friend" who's secretly in "love" with him was supposed to either barge into the room to confront them or storm out in rage/betrayal call it what you want. Pulling out his phone to record the scene was an act of revenge! which he's not even entitled to because Non isn't his boyfriend! he's not even aware of those feelings!
Now the writer is free to give Jin whatever ending he thinks is best but to me the character lost all credibility and later on became irredeemable the minute Jin sat infront of the investigators and denied Non's presence during the shooting of the movie of his whereabouts afterwards.
Does that make sense?
Sometimes we see something from a distance and we develop a fantasy but when we get close enough, 9 times outta 10 we wish we hadn't! this is what happened to Jin when he uncovered one of Non's secrets, that fantasy shattered and all that was left was resentment. but the thing that made Jin worse than the average person was that need for revenge when he recorded the video.
I don't really understand why anyone would wish Jin a happy ending with Phi or with anyone else after what he'd done!
Let's say he truly had a crush on Non, to which Non was completely oblivious to, and let's say he felt shocked and betrayed (which he doesn't have the right to in the first place) when he saw him with Mr.Keng! why on earth would he grab his phone, record what he saw and then contemplate whether or not to post it online to shame and scandalise Non and the teacher. If he truly was a good person deep down somewhere, even after taking the video he could've confronted Non in private and told him that what he did was wrong and that he was shocked to discover it! What he did was vengeful, bitter and filled with hate.
Personally, I can't imagine anything worse than filming your "friend" having sex with anyone and then post it online regardless of the circumstances surrounding that scandalous relationship.