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I feel like I’m watching Bible or Poom and Jess. A younger Bible, but I can’t help but unsee it.

That is indeed what happened. If you look at the pilot episode so many big names, it’s no suprise really. But there were also some complaints about one of the main lead actors. The character he was supposed to play, was in the novel a older guy. It was still legal and all, but the age difference was a big part of the story. From what I remember the character was supposed to be around 50 (I think) and the team selected Dollar Patchara Pinta to play that character, Dollar is around 20 years old. I mean I didn’t see necessary the problems with it, but the age difference was still a huge part of the novel. So I do get the complains.

The Thai BL titles I mentioned are as far as I know all Thai companies. I didn’t think you only meant Chinese BL series that were cancelled or shelved. So I mentioned the once I knew of that were temporary shelved like KP or Lover Merman and the once that were officially cancelled. I’m sorry that I was unclear about.

As for Desire, I think it wasn’t necessary because the sisters are wealthy and have connections (though it probably did help in some ways) because otherwise Kill For Love and Revenged Love wouldn’t have been able to air, seeing as they had tiny budgets.

I think these last few Chinese BL series have used loopholes in the censorship laws, such as co-productions between other countries, not having it air in China and only international or having the series registered under another country.

Now I do think the sisters did have some influence in having the desire4 stay together and be able to do another (if not multiple) series after this one. I also think she might have had some influence into getting the 4 into those music concerts/festivals. Though about that one I’m not sure, because Zi Yu (Revengef Love main lead) is currently also doing a lot of music festivals on his own, and his agency/studio was fairly small during the airing of RL, that might have changed since then.

I personally also hope that it will give other Chinese companies the incentive and courage to start making BL series, but there are also rumors going around that the censorship laws might get tightened again due to these previous companies using loopholes to air BL series. The next meeting to discuss the censorship laws I s supposed to be somewhere in October, hopefully it’s just rumors and nothing gets changed.

As for people hating on Desire, sadly there will always be people who can’t stand seeing other series doing good or better than their favorite. Thats sadly how things go, also MDL can be notoriously negative.

I honestly haven't heard anything of it, but seeing the rumors that this series was supposed to have about 20 to 24 episodes instead of 16, i wouldn't be surprised if NJ decides to air those skipped scenes in some form of episodes / BTS scenes. IF that rumor is true though.

Pff good question, i don't think a lot. Especially from China, in the list below there are multiple BL's from author Priest which have been shelved. For some straight chinese series, some get shelved temporarily when they go through the censorship approval. For example Story Of Kunning Palace.

I know of one BL series that had been shelved/cancelled, which was KinnPorsche, the original company ran out of money. Be On Cloud picked it up after. I think Lover Merman was cancelled (or delayed) and that one started airing last week. Some BL series i know that have been shelved (probably) indefinitely are Red Peafowl, My Engineer 2, Lovely Addict, Wheel of Love, My Miracle Love, Love Chase, Midnight Fortune (mpreg/omegaverse).

https://mydramalist.com/list/47aRZgJL

Sadly, ever year those rumors start up again, same for Winner is King. Winner is King is another series that has been shelved indefinitely, adaptation from Stars of Chaos: Sha Po Lang by writer Priest. It’s been 5 years since that one was filmed. Honestly I have stopped hoping for both series to be released, the companies that made the series have other options to avoid the censorship. Like some other Chinese companies have done, register the company, series under another country is one such option. But both of these companies don’t want to do that because they don’t want to miss out on the Chinese revenue, they can get if it gets through the censorship. I did read about 3 months ago, that Immortality was doing some revisions to the series, but if that is actually true, I honestly don’t know.

I honestly think that Eliot and Kipuka will be doing a series before Ocean and Seeky will do another series. It’s been know for a couple weeks (if not already a month or so) that Eliot and Kipuka would be open to doing another series together. From then on Nong Jian had mentioned in their live feed that they had 2 or 3 scripts to chose from. I believe it was 2 period dramas and one modern. Ocean and Seeky only confirmed recently that they want to do another series. So time wise NJ have had more time to think over what sort of series they want to do.

It’s the adaptation of a BL novel called The Husky and His White Cat Shizun. It’s been years since it got filmed, filming started in 24 of April 2020 and stopt filming after 153 days on September 23, 2020. It was supposed to be released somewhere in 2021, yet it’s been shelved indefinitely due to the content violates the censorship laws.

https://mydramalist.com/54501-hao-yi-xing

Agreed. Not only that he was an Enigma, but also has been hinting at Sheng having children. Even said it practically in the previous episode, it’s Sheng who didn’t take it seriously 😂

Of course there will be. If the directing team
follows the novel (which so far they have been doing), there won’t be a lot of scenes for the second couple, but hey who knows.

I said that around week 3, that when Oktober is starting, we will probably all be sad about the fact that the series is ending, and want the series to have like 8 more episodes.

Isn't this Oceans first series?

In the novel it was described as HY talking to Sheng Fang (SSY father) for about half an hour. I think they tried to edit it like that with the music. Its not specified in the novel what they talked about, just that SF asked a bunch of questions and that HY answered those questions with ease.

Quote out of the chapter ''SF questions were always laced with subtext, but HY replied in a soft voice, calm and composed, never deferential yet never disrespectful''. It apparently impressed SF.

In the translation from the novel of chrysanthemumgarden, it's chapter 61, if you want to read it.

Yeah I know, he’s still second place though😉. Btw from which series (or movies) is your profile picture?

For me Bible with “But this wasn’t the fucking plan” has been replaced by Eliot saying 2 simple words; “Any volunteers?” That just came out of nowhere, yet it has become one of my favorite moments from episode 14.

Seriously what is your problem? Week after week, it’s becoming ridiculous. It’s like you want to cause drama.

Honestly I have some very harsh harsh opinions of the second couple, but I won’t say them out loud. Because what’s the point, it’s not like the comment section becomes fun to read if we all do that! I won’t skip the second couple, even though their storyline doesnt interest me, cause I know the actors still put their heart and soul in these roles. There was seriously somebody in the comment section saying that nobody was throwing shade at the main couple, are they just willfully ignoring those posts.

Because practically every week we got a variation of “main actors are stiff”, “main actors can’t act”, “second couple should be main”, “main leads are boring”, “series got popularity because of second couple”, “I watch only the scenes with the second couple”, etc! And then I’m not even mentioning what people have said about the characters and the double standards.

And every time somebody defends the main lead, the reaction back is “it’s only a opinion”.

Agreed and for weeks most of us have let it go, but at some point our patience also runs out. Every week it’s the same negativity, and 90% of the time the second couple gets praised, while in the same sentence the main couple gets criticized, bullied. And thats doesnt contain to only the characters, it’s the actors themselves too.

Why is that you people constantly pull in the argument but they were promoted as leads, they went with the other two actors on events etc. Yes they did, so? Do you not want them to have equal opportunities as the main couple? Do you not want them on events to have them promoted and get more exposure? Your arguments were valid when the series just started, but we are 11 weeks in. Eleven weeks of seeing them have very few small scenes, why expect more, even now 11 weeks later. Why keep up those expectations when you all have been told multiple times that the novel isnt about them.

The sister have promoted them as leads because they wanted them to get the same opportunity’s as the main lead couple. If you feel so frustrated about the fact that the second couple was promoted as leads, tell that to the sisters. I can tell you they won’t appreciate it, seeing as others already have done that half way through the show. The sisters have done literally everything to give Ocean and Pei En Li the same respect and opportunity’s.

Yes I indeed read the novel, I did around episode 8 or 9. The second couple are not even secondary characters in the novel, they have maybe 3 or so moments together. The main couple has about 73 chapters, with here and there a few parts where SWL storyline is told. After the main couple storyline finishes in chapter 77, the extra chapters begin. About 27 extras, which contains 5 chapters which consist of Hua his written fairy tales, 3 chapters written about peanut. 18 of those extra chapters are only for the second couple, 2 chapters, are shared with the main couple. In the main storyline GT and SWL have 4 chapters that are only for themselves and they start just before the main storyline is finished. The second couple are basically told as a side storyline.

Just because actors get promoted as leads doesn’t necessarily main they get the equivalent of lead screentime, for example WeAre AouBoom were also co-main leads yet they weren’t giving the same screentime. Did you see people complaining week after week, no they just accepted what was given to them. I get that expectations were set based on that, but honestly maybe it’s time to lower those expectations. Otherwise I’m afraid that you’ll be disappointed.

I’m sorry if I sound harsh, I just don’t know how else to explain it.

More like your delusion should be studied!