Let me guess... another K-Drama with a heavy Love Triangle..? Is it?
No, it seems like the 2ML is a first class jerk (he's an ex who disappeared for 3 yrs with no explanation and then suddenly returns, all smiley, like nothing ever happened, claiming they never broke up. 🤨). Don't think there will be much competition here between the MLs...
There are 15+ kdrama romances this year alone where the ML is a pure virgin & FL having past relationships.Not…
Hi, @mooc. I see you're back, beating your favorite drum! I did block you, but I use the app, and I discovered it does not keep me from seeing your comments, so, alas, I continue to come across your comments. 😂 I find the repetition of your message tedious (which is the only reason I tried to block you, haha), but once in a blue moon you say something intriguing amongst the expletives and generalizations.
I wanted to get more clarification on what you mean by "porn" (you seem to use porn as an insult, so I assume you are assuming porn is unhealthy for flourishing relationships) and why Kdrama romances are "soft porn," since depending on what you mean, I might somewhat agree with you.
I have not watched entertainment content besides "soft porn," in your estimation, but by "porn" I will assume you mean sexually explicit content watched for the sake of gratifying some sort of sexual urge/need/desire. Now, if you mean that some Kdrama romances fall into some category of porn for the following reason, I can see what you mean: people (traditionally men) who watch porn can/will begin to have unrealistic standards of what sex and sex partners are like (as they seek to gratify a sexual urge) through the fantasy-sex depicted, and people (mostly women) who watch Kdrama romances while seeking to satisfy some sort of sexual urge can/will also gain unrealistic depictions of men and relationships with them through fantastically unrealistic scenarios.
What I imagine you're implying is that both soft porn and porn can have negative efffects on viewers, and are just used by people to get their sexual urges assuaged (but for Kdramas, it is done in a milder form, due to it being less graphic--or would you disagree?). I think that this can be true for some who watch Kdramas. They CAN be used as a way to satisfy a sexual desire in a very easy way that does not require someone to work at a real relationship but will still make them "feel good." I agree that in this comparison it can have some negative consequences (for those who allow themselves to think that this is how real relationships work, especially), and carry those misconceptions into their relationships. I agree that they can be damaging and inhibit flourishing relationships (from being maintained properly and/or from being begun properly) if expectations from fantasies are infringing on healthy expectations between real people in a real relationship.
I imagine you don't call these dramas porn because they are not explicit enough, fair enough, I would agree. It seems your issues are more in the way these dramas might affect a person's subconscious beliefs and views about relationships and men, as porn might do about sex. Again, I would agree this CAN be true.
That said, I think there are some important differences.
For instance, I think romance Kdramas (and perhaps some, more than others) can be engaged with much more healthily than with porn. For instance, there are a lot of other redeeming qualities to dramas that can contribute to someone's enjoyment and just genuine (not sexual) pleasure of the story (i.e. seeing people wrestling with family interactions, sweet friendships, character arcs that show people growing and changing in relationship to other people, high production quality, lovely OSTs and BGMs, predictable, comfortable plots for those who enjoy predictable entertainment, interesting scripts and clever writing that can crop up, etc.), which I don't believe is an argument that could be made in favor of porn. People CAN watch romance dramas without needing it to satisfy sexual urges (and who don't get those experiences from it at all) because they have robust relationships and healthy sex lives. Can the same be said of porn? I think more distinctions can be made, but I will stop here for now.
I think I could appreciate your efforts to "change" the opinions of users on this site (or seek to effect change in the industry, somehow), and find your contrarian harping less tedious, if I knew you were going to forums that talk about porn and harping on how damaging that entertainment is, too. It seems only fair. If you're already doing so, then I am satisfied. In fact, I'd venture to applaud you for your consistency!
ig u do not have sisters because that is a very accurate portrayal of sisters lol. i watched this with my little…
I think it also accurately showed that you can love your sister to death (maybe not realize it) and still fight like cats and dogs. My sister and I are super close and don't fight like this anymore, but as kids and teenagers, oh yeah, you bet we fought. 😂
Are Reply Series related to each other? Do we need to watch all three of them or they can be watched individually?
The only thing they share is that they leave you in suspense about which ML ends up with the FL. :) They mix up the Kdrama formula consistently for each Reply installment.
this show was so good that i had to stop watching it on episode 17 because i was scared of it ending and now i…
But the ending of 20 is *chef's kiss*. It's akin to leaving Neverland behind. It's heartbreaking, but also necessary (as well as unavoidable) and beautiful to grow up. (Do have tissues, though. 😉)
does it have an happy ending and is there something happening in it? I want to watch it but I'm scared it will…
And keep an open mind about which boy ends up with Deok Sun. Unless you think you might inadvertently get attached to one over the others, 😂 then I'd suggest you look it up. It depends on the person, but I ended up spoiling myself because I couldn't handle the suspense (this is a common Reply series tactic: to keep you guessing about which ML ends up with the FL. It's a very unique set of dramas in that sense, haha).
Notice, this drama has a 9.1 rating on MDL (already pretty rare), 100,000+ viewers (also rare), and was released in 2016. There are VERY few dramas on this site that can boast these impressive stats with so much time and distance from airing.
And there's a reason.
It's not for everyone, and it took me a while to get into, but once I did, I was hooked.
P.S. Don't forget to have some tissues handy for the end! Because you WILL weep.
does it have an happy ending and is there something happening in it? I want to watch it but I'm scared it will…
I found the first 5 episodes boring and very difficult to get through, and I was less invested in the parents stories' throughout, but it does pick up, and the ending packs a PUNCH, and hits you right in the feels (and by watching the earlier bits, the ending comes together; it might just take some time to get there). I don't know if you can watch the ending and not cry? Has anyone managed it? 😂 Especially if you have any sweet memories of friendship, youth or childhood, the end will do you in. 😂 If you don't have good memories from your youth, it will make you long to have had them, and you'll still mourn with the characters, at the very least. The first review that quotes some of the drama's voice over is probably some of the most gut-wrenching stuff once you've seen the drama.
I'd suggest let yourself watch over a span of weeks or months and just slowly make your way through it. It's not the kind of show to speed through, and honestly, it's too long to binge. 😂
It has vibes of a weekend or family drama, especially in that it is so much longer than a normal 16 Episode drama, and focuses on so many characters equally, and their arcs of growth. It just feels like a higher production value than a family or weekend drama; less soapy, and more poignant, nostalgic and thoughtful. It's not super plot driven, and feels like someone followed four families in the same neighborhood with a camcorder as their kids grew up; these sorts of vibes. All the best! 😉
A lot of people asking if there's a romance in it and when they know that it's not big part of the plot they're…
And the romance is SO cute. Not a main theme, but when it is incorporated our crown prince and princess are just the cutest. 🥰
And the political scheming in this is actually interesting. It's one of the few dramas that spend more time on the royal family than the ministers and their power struggles. That was a huge win in my opinion for a sageuk, and a good move.
why is this tagged as horror? Is is really scary? I'm easily scared but it seems great
It has some creepy parts, yes. For those used to horror, this would be nothing, but for someone like me who avoids horror (or pseudo-religious darkness), it was a bit chilling.
One of the earlier episodes has the FL tormented by these two little girl ghosts who don't end up being creepy but before I found out about their story they gave me the heebie jeebies. I was like, "Nope, can't watch this." Had to skip until I got to the sweet part. It actually ends up being really heartbreaking and beautiful, their part in the story, but the build up to the resolution was not for me. 😂
It's not really either. I guess it's a fictional historical with some slight exaggerations of combat - so you…
Super helpful! I've been wondering this myself. So then, what genre do the pseudo historical films like this and LLTG fall under? Cause they're not claiming any kind of accurate historicity, right?
Everyone on this thread is so kind and helpful! So refreshing after visiting popular and/or currently airing Kdrama comment threads. 😅 It's like a breath of fresh air!
Idk how you can say that after story of kunning palace, legend of shen li, and hidden love. C-dramas have always…
Yes, it's the kind of tight writing and good pacing I miss! I didn't care for the episodes covering her stepmother nearer to the end and after a certain special character dies, but besides that I thought it was gripping from start to finish. Though Wanning is SO icky. *shivers*
Someone suggested I stop at minute 31ish of episode 40 and it was a good call. So glad I did. There is a 5 minute happy episode that overturns the open ending but it's only available on certain sites. @TaliaToo helped me find a link so I could watch it. She's active on the thread and she can probably find it for you if you want a safe link. :)
I wanted to get more clarification on what you mean by "porn" (you seem to use porn as an insult, so I assume you are assuming porn is unhealthy for flourishing relationships) and why Kdrama romances are "soft porn," since depending on what you mean, I might somewhat agree with you.
I have not watched entertainment content besides "soft porn," in your estimation, but by "porn" I will assume you mean sexually explicit content watched for the sake of gratifying some sort of sexual urge/need/desire. Now, if you mean that some Kdrama romances fall into some category of porn for the following reason, I can see what you mean: people (traditionally men) who watch porn can/will begin to have unrealistic standards of what sex and sex partners are like (as they seek to gratify a sexual urge) through the fantasy-sex depicted, and people (mostly women) who watch Kdrama romances while seeking to satisfy some sort of sexual urge can/will also gain unrealistic depictions of men and relationships with them through fantastically unrealistic scenarios.
What I imagine you're implying is that both soft porn and porn can have negative efffects on viewers, and are just used by people to get their sexual urges assuaged (but for Kdramas, it is done in a milder form, due to it being less graphic--or would you disagree?). I think that this can be true for some who watch Kdramas. They CAN be used as a way to satisfy a sexual desire in a very easy way that does not require someone to work at a real relationship but will still make them "feel good." I agree that in this comparison it can have some negative consequences (for those who allow themselves to think that this is how real relationships work, especially), and carry those misconceptions into their relationships. I agree that they can be damaging and inhibit flourishing relationships (from being maintained properly and/or from being begun properly) if expectations from fantasies are infringing on healthy expectations between real people in a real relationship.
I imagine you don't call these dramas porn because they are not explicit enough, fair enough, I would agree. It seems your issues are more in the way these dramas might affect a person's subconscious beliefs and views about relationships and men, as porn might do about sex. Again, I would agree this CAN be true.
That said, I think there are some important differences.
For instance, I think romance Kdramas (and perhaps some, more than others) can be engaged with much more healthily than with porn. For instance, there are a lot of other redeeming qualities to dramas that can contribute to someone's enjoyment and just genuine (not sexual) pleasure of the story (i.e. seeing people wrestling with family interactions, sweet friendships, character arcs that show people growing and changing in relationship to other people, high production quality, lovely OSTs and BGMs, predictable, comfortable plots for those who enjoy predictable entertainment, interesting scripts and clever writing that can crop up, etc.), which I don't believe is an argument that could be made in favor of porn. People CAN watch romance dramas without needing it to satisfy sexual urges (and who don't get those experiences from it at all) because they have robust relationships and healthy sex lives. Can the same be said of porn? I think more distinctions can be made, but I will stop here for now.
I think I could appreciate your efforts to "change" the opinions of users on this site (or seek to effect change in the industry, somehow), and find your contrarian harping less tedious, if I knew you were going to forums that talk about porn and harping on how damaging that entertainment is, too. It seems only fair. If you're already doing so, then I am satisfied. In fact, I'd venture to applaud you for your consistency!
And there's a reason.
It's not for everyone, and it took me a while to get into, but once I did, I was hooked.
P.S. Don't forget to have some tissues handy for the end! Because you WILL weep.
I'd suggest let yourself watch over a span of weeks or months and just slowly make your way through it. It's not the kind of show to speed through, and honestly, it's too long to binge. 😂
It has vibes of a weekend or family drama, especially in that it is so much longer than a normal 16 Episode drama, and focuses on so many characters equally, and their arcs of growth. It just feels like a higher production value than a family or weekend drama; less soapy, and more poignant, nostalgic and thoughtful. It's not super plot driven, and feels like someone followed four families in the same neighborhood with a camcorder as their kids grew up; these sorts of vibes. All the best! 😉
And the political scheming in this is actually interesting. It's one of the few dramas that spend more time on the royal family than the ministers and their power struggles. That was a huge win in my opinion for a sageuk, and a good move.
One of the earlier episodes has the FL tormented by these two little girl ghosts who don't end up being creepy but before I found out about their story they gave me the heebie jeebies. I was like, "Nope, can't watch this." Had to skip until I got to the sweet part. It actually ends up being really heartbreaking and beautiful, their part in the story, but the build up to the resolution was not for me. 😂
Someone suggested I stop at minute 31ish of episode 40 and it was a good call. So glad I did. There is a 5 minute happy episode that overturns the open ending but it's only available on certain sites. @TaliaToo helped me find a link so I could watch it. She's active on the thread and she can probably find it for you if you want a safe link. :)