Yes, I believe so (and according to the tracks available on Spotify so far). Park Eun Bin is apparently singing…
Yeah, I don't know. Obviously it's hard to know for sure if you pre-record music how authentic it is (even the drama itself admits that, haha). Some people on here said she was having a live concert in Korea singing music from the drama? π€·ββοΈ
I agree. Unlike Start Up, this time the childhood backstory actually plays out in Castaway Diva, which is nice.…
Haha, that make sense. I like that the 2MLs are not just plot devices in her stories, but I also sympathize with preferring 2MLs who are either unlikable or whose crushes are light. π I also prefer that, if I'm honest, but there are so many other things about her dramas I love that I overlook that preference when I watch hers. Definitely makes it easier to root for the leads together.
Maybe another thing that makes people struggle with this writer's dramas is that she also can make her MLs more flawed than you'll find in other dramas (particularly true in Start-Up, but for instance the way Bo Geol in this one kept his identitiy as Ki Ho a secret so vigilantly from Woo Hak and Mok Ha, and then did a 180 (for valid reasons) and stopped lying to both all of a sudden. It became a little more selfish of him, especially considering the timing of it all and how poor Woo Hak was still in the throes of processing it all). There are a lot of dramas with flawed MLs, but she tends to write their flaws in less tropey ways (not like, for example, the jerk chaebol heir who we end up finding actually is a sweet softie and just misunderstood and who grows by the end; that is the ultimate ML Kdrama persona of all time (I think Kdramas have perfected this rom-com trope down to a science), and I'm here for it π).
Happy to dialogue! It helps us to articulate and hone in our preferences, and personal preference is a big part of the enjoyment that comes from entertainment. No reason to force ourselves to watch what we know we don't like! I've discovered I can't do most office dramas or ghost/afterlife dramas, and it's hit and miss on the time travel and body switching. π There seem to be a lot of good dramas airing right now so hopefully you can find another one more to your taste! :)
I had an impression that Park Eun Bin was really singing in ep. 9 or 10 (can't remember which of them exactly).…
Yes, I believe so (and according to the tracks available on Spotify so far). Park Eun Bin is apparently singing Mok Ha's parts in this drama. I think the younger version of Mok Ha in Episode 1, who did that first version of Dream Us, was not Eun Bin's voice (maybe the younger actress?) because her voice and Eun Bin's voice sounded different to me. But I could be wrong. Not sure if that answered your question?
I agree. Unlike Start Up, this time the childhood backstory actually plays out in Castaway Diva, which is nice.…
That's a fair point! You might find her love triangles in I Can Hear Your Voice and While You Were Sleeping more to your liking, then. They are much subtler and more subdued; the 2MLs are still lovely but not given as much screentime or shown pining quite as much. Maybe they'll work better for you? Or not, haha. While You Were Sleeping is one of my favorite Kdramas of all time, so I promote it whenever I can. π After finishing Episode 10 of this drama, I think I can say WYWS will still take the lead as my favorite drama, especially by this screenwriter, unless Episodes 11 and 12 knock things out of the park.
I will say I don't think this writer in particular writes love triangles to generate hype (I could be wrong, but she seems like too much of an artist for that), but she does embrace all the Kdrama tropes. She embraces the trope of the 2ML, embraces that he will have unrequited love, as per the formula, but writes him with his own character arc that riffs off of the FL and allows him to grow into a better version of himself and who becomes interesting in his own right, and doesn't just utilize him as a plot device (which is not something you usually see with 2MLs).
I'm so mad at myself rn. somebody asked to get the summaries of episode 5-10 and I did it. now I'm reading that…
I wouldn't be too hard on yourself about it; you mentioned in your post that it would have spoilers and also made it clear you were going to give a run down on the first five episodes (and it was not the first post starting a reply thread but near the middle), so anyone reading after those disclaimers should have known what they were getting into. Besides, you replied specifically to that person who had asked you for the spoilers, right? (Conscientious of you to apologize, though. π)
remind me to tmrrw again. its 2 am rn. I will do after uni tmrrw.
Are you the user who said they didn't like musicals/stories written around music and singing? Trying to remember. If it was you, I hope it ends up being to your liking. :) I think it's been lovely so far!
the spoiler is hella crazy in here. many users either don't have awareness or don't care about it anymore :(
I was wondering if what happened is maybe some people who have been tracking the drama from the beginning (I think I can include myself in this, and I have been duly chastised) who have been frequenting this page since then who got past the "Who is Ki Ho?" buzz got kind of lax (some have been excellent about it since the beginning; I don't want to lump everyone together!) because many of us have already known that for two weeks. Because of that, some of us were moving on and discussing the story and characters based on current plot points and information already digested and made clear by earlier episodes, getting lazy with the spoiler tag and kind of forgetting that new people to the page picking up the drama as it gains momentum might want to discover some of these plot points like the rest of us did. However, there have been a handful of vigilant members on this thread the past few days who have helped remind everyone, so, hopefully it will get better? π€·ββοΈ I'm happy to see the number of watchers increasing!
I also sometimes use the spoiler tag (like now) if I think I'm getting too verbose and will clutter up the thread since I write long posts. Not everyone will want to read them. π
After posting my second comment to you I noticed that I had pushed back on two of your posts in the same thread and realized it might have felt like I was ganging up on you, @ally. I'm sorry if it felt that way. I didn't mean to make you feel cornered or invalidate your frustrations. I can agree that being spoiled when you didn't plan on it IS annoying. My apologies!
Because the family has always been protective of Woohak, rightly or wrongly, due to the accident that caused him…
Yes, I get where you're coming from. I imagine I'll come around to the events of Episode 10 with time after processing it and rewatching it. π And I also think/hope we'll see a change in Woo Hak. I think this was the crisis episode for him (and for everyone, honestly, which is why it was hard to watch), and it will hopefully be smooth sailing for MokGeolli here on out! π Maybe instead of creating suspense in the preview which is what's typical, maybe they thought, "The audience will need a pick-me-up after this, let's give them a little surprise (an incentive to keep watching) and some hope for the end!"
But the person who responded (I'm referring to your response to BWMDL) did use a spoiler tag, and I'm not sure how were they supposed to know you were having a live reaction and not asking a genuine question? There are probably better platforms for live reactions than here, since I've observed this platform is usually used more for discussing the drama after watching the epispdes or getting recommendations based on people's overall impressions of episodes or the drama as a whole, not usually a space where people give their impressions scene by scene as they watch. I'm not saying you can't do that, but there are probably other places that are better suited for that kind of viewing so you can avoid spoilers and experience it with others at the same time. Just a thought!
Whats green here? MH gave up on the people who supported her to chase dreams under the agency that rejected her…
I keep seeing stuff about guys being "green flags" and I kind of get what people mean by it, but I'm also still not 100% sure I know why people are saying this rather than, "These characters are such good, sweet, selfless people." I would love to become further enlightened by what people mean by the phrase and why it's become such a big deal as a descriptor. π
Considering dropping this drama just cuz a commenter here had to ruin it for me πππ
Yeah, I never come here unless I'm okay with being spoiled. It's easier to avoid spoilers if you wait until a drama is finished because then people usually just share what their impressions are of the drama as a whole after watching it in its entirety so there won't be as many details mentioned which is more likely in the comments while it is airing. I personally can still enjoy a drama even if I "know" what will happen because the way people explain it in a comment never does the scene justice, and sometimes I hate the suspense more. π Anyway, now you know, I guess! π
You, too! Thanks for reading my ramblings. π
Maybe another thing that makes people struggle with this writer's dramas is that she also can make her MLs more flawed than you'll find in other dramas (particularly true in Start-Up, but for instance the way Bo Geol in this one kept his identitiy as Ki Ho a secret so vigilantly from Woo Hak and Mok Ha, and then did a 180 (for valid reasons) and stopped lying to both all of a sudden. It became a little more selfish of him, especially considering the timing of it all and how poor Woo Hak was still in the throes of processing it all). There are a lot of dramas with flawed MLs, but she tends to write their flaws in less tropey ways (not like, for example, the jerk chaebol heir who we end up finding actually is a sweet softie and just misunderstood and who grows by the end; that is the ultimate ML Kdrama persona of all time (I think Kdramas have perfected this rom-com trope down to a science), and I'm here for it π).
Happy to dialogue! It helps us to articulate and hone in our preferences, and personal preference is a big part of the enjoyment that comes from entertainment. No reason to force ourselves to watch what we know we don't like! I've discovered I can't do most office dramas or ghost/afterlife dramas, and it's hit and miss on the time travel and body switching. π There seem to be a lot of good dramas airing right now so hopefully you can find another one more to your taste! :)
I will say I don't think this writer in particular writes love triangles to generate hype (I could be wrong, but she seems like too much of an artist for that), but she does embrace all the Kdrama tropes. She embraces the trope of the 2ML, embraces that he will have unrequited love, as per the formula, but writes him with his own character arc that riffs off of the FL and allows him to grow into a better version of himself and who becomes interesting in his own right, and doesn't just utilize him as a plot device (which is not something you usually see with 2MLs).
I also sometimes use the spoiler tag (like now) if I think I'm getting too verbose and will clutter up the thread since I write long posts. Not everyone will want to read them. π
Also, on MDL you can find out who's the main ML from the way the cast list is set up, too. :)