I do not understand why any of these people want to be with each other. I especially do not understand what everyone is seeing in Pat. The whole character is just a headache.
I'm not certain if its the translation, the pacing, the dialogue, the budget, or the acting, but this series feels super retro (even moreso when Mean popped up). The whole thing feels like it was filmed during that heady post-SOTUS/pre-TharnType era, when MaxTul was shooting to stardom, loosening the stranglehold that cutesy college phase of Thai BL production had on the market & making producers realize gay men also kiss & have sex & skinship makes a lot of money.
We're living in a new Golden Age of Thai BLs, & this just feels like a throwback.
That being said, I am enjoying Pepper's turn as Dino. He's occasionally giving Jack from "H3: Trapped" vibes, & is managing to communicate "forthright & earnest" despite dialogue/translations that read like every character in this thing is on a sliding scale of sociopathy.
Knot really is his own worst enemy. The boy can't have a single conversation without sticking his foot in his mouth. I suppose he'll grow into a better person as the series progresses, as we have seen that he has a level of self-awareness & can feel remorse/regret, but right now, every scene with him is just waiting for some new bit of idiocy to fall from his tongue & for someone to lecture him about himself. He's hard to watch; kudos to Title on this performance.
I am thrilled for Chot. He's been doing so much emotional labour this whole series, I'm glad he got something he really wanted. He deserves all the happiness.
Pat's Father is intense. He was ready to pre-fight, just to make a point. Jeng better never misstep in their step-by-step because Pat's Father is ready to square up.
Also---does anyone else find the timeline of events slightly confusing? I see how they tried to use Ae's/Khanun's pregnancy, birth, baby, wedding, & vasectomy to denote the passage of time but some of those events don't quite seem to align to other happenings in the story. I think by episode 10 we're about 1.5-2 years in, aren't we? If we assume a two-month span prior to Ae's pregnancy, & at least a six-month gap between Ae giving birth & the wedding (since the baby was able to sit-up & hold its head steady)...?
Assuming that Kawi is straight is also a disservice to all the people in real life who discover (and accept) their…
Why are you so determined to misread, misunderstand, or sneer at what I'm saying? What is offending you—that I'm not all-in on the PisaengKawee love story, or that I'm not ignoring Kawee's current sexual identity, as he understands it, just because this is a BL?
Assuming that Kawi is straight is also a disservice to all the people in real life who discover (and accept) their…
Actually, I'd enjoy seeing Pisaeng trying to move on, while Kawee slowly comes to the realization that he's bi.
I think a lot of us queer people have had the experience of crushing on a straight person, knowing it won't happen. I think it would fit the story if we saw Pisaeng working to get over his crush while staying good friends with Kawee; meanwhile, Kawee is on his journey of self-discovery, and ultimately realizes he has strong feelings for his friend.
That just feels, to me, like it would be a fitting narrative for this story, since the show is so focused on themes on growth, self-discovery, courage, failure, and acceptance.
Assuming that Kawi is straight is also a disservice to all the people in real life who discover (and accept) their…
I am calling a character who hasn't yet had his awakening "straight". At this stage in the story, as it has been told so far, Kawee is identified as hetero. Obviously, that will change, because this is a BL, but the story hasn't reached that point yet. I am reacting to the story where it is NOW.
@Feardorcha I feel it the same way as you 😄❤️ I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks they shouldn't end…
Welcome to the Club of Unpopular Opinions, lol!
Maybe it's something about the way this story is being told, & the depth these characters have been given, in a way unusual for many Thai BLs. I would be perfectly happy if they stayed good friends, supporting one another to be their best selves.
Perhaps what would swing my opinion is seeing Pisaeng openly dating other men, learning more about himself and the community. I know Kawee is going to have a sexual awakening but, right now, he's a "straight" guy, and I'm just not interested in watching Pisaeng pine after a "straight" man while he's discovering himself. It just strikes me as a bit...juvenile, perhaps, in a show with otherwise compelling storytelling. Just a bit trope-y when the story has subverted or avoided so many other BL clichés.
Assuming that Kawi is straight is also a disservice to all the people in real life who discover (and accept) their…
At this stage, the story has not progressed to the chapter where Kawee explores his sexuality. While that is obviously the direction it's headed, based on the story so far, I would be perfectly satisfied if Pisaeng and Kawi remained friends, and the story followed the two of them on their individual journeys.
I adored how Pisaeng's inner conflict was depicted; it resonated so hard with me, watching him standing, indecisive, a little scared, outside that bar. I've been there, I remember that feeling, I remember how liberating it was to conquer that fear.
I loved watching Kawee find the courage to just try—to apply as a student rep, to sing in front of people, to pursue Pear. I haven't rooted for a character so much in a long while.
My (highly unpopular) opinion about them being together may change as the story progresses but, right now, I'm actually less interested in their coupling than I am in their personal growth.
I thought the episode did a good job of communicating, in a short time, Pisaeng's inner conflicts and journey…
He has such nuance in his performance. I am impressed,and would also love to see him in a variety of projects. I bet he'd absolutely kill in an action show.
We're living in a new Golden Age of Thai BLs, & this just feels like a throwback.
That being said, I am enjoying Pepper's turn as Dino. He's occasionally giving Jack from "H3: Trapped" vibes, & is managing to communicate "forthright & earnest" despite dialogue/translations that read like every character in this thing is on a sliding scale of sociopathy.
Pat's Father is intense. He was ready to pre-fight, just to make a point. Jeng better never misstep in their step-by-step because Pat's Father is ready to square up.
Also---does anyone else find the timeline of events slightly confusing? I see how they tried to use Ae's/Khanun's pregnancy, birth, baby, wedding, & vasectomy to denote the passage of time but some of those events don't quite seem to align to other happenings in the story. I think by episode 10 we're about 1.5-2 years in, aren't we? If we assume a two-month span prior to Ae's pregnancy, & at least a six-month gap between Ae giving birth & the wedding (since the baby was able to sit-up & hold its head steady)...?
I hope the show continues to deliver on the quality storytelling, dialogue, and characters that keep me watching each week.
At any rate, I like the show, quite a bit, and I'm hoping it will continue to exceed my expectations.
I think a lot of us queer people have had the experience of crushing on a straight person, knowing it won't happen. I think it would fit the story if we saw Pisaeng working to get over his crush while staying good friends with Kawee; meanwhile, Kawee is on his journey of self-discovery, and ultimately realizes he has strong feelings for his friend.
That just feels, to me, like it would be a fitting narrative for this story, since the show is so focused on themes on growth, self-discovery, courage, failure, and acceptance.
Maybe it's something about the way this story is being told, & the depth these characters have been given, in a way unusual for many Thai BLs. I would be perfectly happy if they stayed good friends, supporting one another to be their best selves.
Perhaps what would swing my opinion is seeing Pisaeng openly dating other men, learning more about himself and the community. I know Kawee is going to have a sexual awakening but, right now, he's a "straight" guy, and I'm just not interested in watching Pisaeng pine after a "straight" man while he's discovering himself. It just strikes me as a bit...juvenile, perhaps, in a show with otherwise compelling storytelling. Just a bit trope-y when the story has subverted or avoided so many other BL clichés.
I adored how Pisaeng's inner conflict was depicted; it resonated so hard with me, watching him standing, indecisive, a little scared, outside that bar. I've been there, I remember that feeling, I remember how liberating it was to conquer that fear.
I loved watching Kawee find the courage to just try—to apply as a student rep, to sing in front of people, to pursue Pear. I haven't rooted for a character so much in a long while.
My (highly unpopular) opinion about them being together may change as the story progresses but, right now, I'm actually less interested in their coupling than I am in their personal growth.