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A movie? But...why?

I suppose it depends on one's definition of a "sad ending". Shin forgetting all about Minato & moving on would be a happy ending for me.

Thnx.

How do we get you hired as an official, paid translator for Japanese BLs? Whom do we have to beg, bribe, or bully to make it happen? I will get on the next plane to Japan.

I've been skipping the previews of the upcoming episode because the series itself has been so repetitive, but I went back to watch it on this episode because of your comment.

If they are actually going to go the direction it appears they plan to go, I might literally vomit from rage.

Yes, I saw them prevaricating in that interview too. All the non-answers to direct questions is unnecessary. I'm beginning to suspect there is no love story here, & no one wants to just say it because they're afraid of losing the "KinnPorsche" fanbase.

I just want to manage my expectations. A sweeping, costume drama epic full of mystery & intrigue is right up my alley, but it's a perfectly fair question to ask if the company created to produce a BL, & the two leads who swept to fame on BL, have made a BL movie.

I am throwing all the confetti for Shu. He's making such an effort: asking for clarification when he doesn't understand, letting his feelings guide his actions, demonstrating his trust in his partner by taking Asuka's cues when he isn't certain what to do. All of it must be so overwhelming for Shu but he is bravely, so very bravely, not letting his fears or confusions control him. &, of course, props to Asuka for not only his patience but his temperance. He, also, appears to be making efforts to adjust to Shu. It's like Shu kicked himself up a couple gears, & Asuka downshifted a few, & they're finding their shared rhythm.

As for those other two...well, I don't care. I just don't care. I hadn't realized exactly how done I am with Minato & Shin until this episode. I was almost excited after the hot springs scene, when I thought it might lead to Shin finally leaving Minato. Then what happened, happened, & I was severely disappointed. After one season + 7.25 episodes of Minato's juvenile nonsense & Shin's pathetic devotion, it's just too late (especially when it required Minato to be inebriated to do something that basic—& then try to lie about it the next day, for fuck's sake). Stay together, don't stay together, I am completely uninvested at this point.

Just give me more Shu & Asuka!

LOL! I had to give up on that one. I rewound that scene like seven times & could not figure out how it happened. One minute he's getting wine thrown at his face & then he's on the floor seizing.

I made up headcanon that the bar seats are electrified as part of the security system. Makes as much sense as magic, I guess.

LOL. Oof.

I just could not process the not taking him to see a doctor. Dude owns a whole luxury hotel & has a personal assistant running his life. He is loaded. Surely they can afford one CT scan to make sure the boss isn't going to keel over dead at the next Board meeting or whatever. I'm so disappointed in his assistant; I mean, you have one job, & I think saying, "Hey, boss, we should see someone about your retrograde amnesia & that whole being electrocuted thing" is a pretty significant part of the job.

That distracted me the whole episode. We the audience know what's happened but as far as any of the characters are aware, the man could have a brain bleed & be about to stroke out. Every time someone just casually mentioned his amnesia, I was shouting at the screen, "Take him to a fucking hospital! What is wrong with you people?!"

So, I sat down & rewatched all episodes to date, & I think I'm getting closer to understanding why this series isn't working for me.

"DSN" had issues but JaFirst thoroughly sold the devoted, passionate, supportive, obsessive love between LeoFiat. I absolutely believed they were a committed, lifelong couple, & that, working as a pair, they helped one another to become the best self they could be.

PunnAshi, not so much.

I cannot figure out what either of them sees in one another that would support an authentic romantic relationship between them. Punn's infatuation with his idol has yet to translate to actual "love" for me, & Ashi remains an enigma. I have no real idea of what Ashi wants, broadly speaking, or why he wants it. His character motivations are opaque but not in an intriguing, let's-unknot-this-tangled-psyche way. Oddly, Punn has the opposite impact on me. I give nothing but applause for Ja's presentation of Punn as a character (no matter how much I dislike the archetype Ja is playing), as Ja's actually managed to imbue layers to Punn's thoughts & actions. I don't like Punn as a character but I do understand him; I get why he is the way he is, I can contextualize his often infantile behaviour, & I see that he is on an actual path of growth. I fully expect that, by the end of the series, Punn will be a far more mature, focused, and self-aware person, & I will BELIEVE in that transformation because Ja is doing his utmost in selling it.

First, on the other hand, seems to have had all the personality & talent strangled out of his portrayal of Ashi. This really could be a compelling character but...well, David Bigander happened all over poor First. And, yes, I absolutely blame the director, because both Ja & First have the acting chops necessary to make these characters work, individually & together. Bigander, on the other hand, is a hack. I am convinced Bigander is sabotaging his writers, actors, & crew members with every project he takes on. It's the only way to explain how he manages to so thoroughly squander all the talent both in front of & behind the camera.

I feel if this series had a better director, the material would've worked. It's not that the series itself is fundamentally bad, it's just really poorly directed. To contrast this series with a newly airing show, "Love in Translation" managed to establish in the first episode precisely the dynamic that will underline the main couple's individual character development & ultimate romantic relationship: the idol-obsessed, free-spirited Phumjai will get the stern, buttoned-down Yang Yen Feng to loosen up, & Yang Yen Feng will get Phumjai to grow up. Every interaction between the two had both text & subtext, & made their puerile altercations engaging rather than monotonous. I'm not saying it was a great episode, just that it managed to do in its single first episode what "Be Mine SuperStar" hasn't managed in eight.

In terms of the sex present in this series—look, if you're giving us all that with MueangDoctor, you cannot dial back the intensity on PunnAshi. MueangDoctor are having grown-ass-men sex; PunnAshi are having fluffy fanfic encounters. I had the same issue with "Bed Friend"; sex-as-communication done all wrong. MueangDoctor are so much more interesting as the second couple because there is a lingua franca that exists when they are physically intimate that it's obvious they're working toward when they're not. THAT is keeping my interest. The two of them are in absolute sync when it comes to sex; how will they translate that into an emotional tie?

I will finish the series to the end because I like JaFirst but I am so disappointed that this is their last project as a CP.

Is someone else directing the sex scenes between the second couple? If so, I wish they were directing them for the main couple too. I have no idea how David Bigander has managed to so thoroughly strip JaFirst of the incredible sexual electricity they had in "DSN". In & out of bed, PunnAshi have about as much sexual tension & physical magnetism as an overripe discount avocado.

I think the director is trying to create contrast between the raw, lustful animalism of the second couple & the sweet, tender lovemaking of the mains, but all he's managed to do is make the PunnAshi story even MORE boring & insipid by comparison. I can practically hear the director off-screen shouting at JaFirst, "Less passionate! Don't get too enthusiastic! Pretend you're at the dentist!"

I read all the comments here. They are supposition, based on personal interpretations of pieces of various interviews in which cast/crew prevaricated. No confirmation one way or the other.

Has anyone in the BOC camp explicitly either confirmed or denied this is a BL? Or that there is an actual gay love story between any of the male leads? The vagueness & equivocation surrounding that element is a bit irritating. I enjoy a good intrigue & mystery plot but it'd be nice to know if we're getting "Manner of Death" or "The Devil Judge", or simply a Thai costume drama starring actors who are otherwise known for BL.

Just, not even going to suggest that the guy who was electrocuted & says he's lost two years of memories should maybe go see a Doctor? Anyone?? No? Ok then...

That was my original thought during the initial episodes but, as the series went on, it was clear he wasn't doing anything to actually keep Tan in line. The kid was constantly getting into trouble; in some instances, he outright provoked Tan into misbehaviour.

Now, I'm thinking he's just a sociopathic, controlling asshole who views Tan like any other possession, something that belongs to him & therefore must remain in his collection of objects, no matter how much he dislikes Tan. That, & I think he enjoys treating Tan as a punching bag.

I don't particularly care what happens to Tan but they would both be better off staying far, far, far away from one another.

...holy shit.

...you know, I've been watching this every week for over a month & it occurred to me today that I haven't the foggiest what's going on.

Well, how nice for Vit that he was only lightly singed in that massive exploding inferno last week.

I do not get Tan's Father. If you want your son to stop being your headache, just let him leave home. It's obvious Tan is useless, & he doesn't want to be there anyway, so just let him go & he'll disappear into his own life far away from you. As a bonus, Thee will go with him, & that's one less deadweight on your payroll. Then you can focus all your energy on evilling evily to your shrunken little heart's content, you absolute monster.

This is a definitely a "binge after airing" series. Five minutes into ep 3 & I realized I have zero recall of eps 1 & 2, & can't remember who all these characters are, their relationships to each other, or their individual motivations.

I didn't find the first two episodes confusing but they were rather...well, forgettable. The only storyline I vaguely recall is the one w/ the guy on the rooftop but hell if I can remember which character it belongs to.