tô no 5 ep e ainda não consegui me envolver.. vejo tantos elogios e ele tão bem posicionado no ranking, que fico esperando avançar pra ver se engata. Desde o 1o ep até o 5o não consegui ver cada episódio até o fim. Dormi, parei no meio, só voltando no outro dia (ou dias). No começo achei que fosse apenas uma falta de vibe no momento pra um drama nesse estilo. Mas agora tô achando sem graça mesmo. Mais alguém pensa isso? Será que vai melhorar ainda?
Can someone explain how she went from a court lady to a queen?
How did she go from a naïve, vulnerable, and somewhat clueless young woman to a ruthless, unstoppable badass?
Did anyone understand how she was able to return to the present when the very same shaman had explicitly said that if she went back to save the prince, she would never be able to return?
In the end, that supposedly ominous comet had absolutely no impact on her transmigration. It spent the entire drama hanging in the sky for nothing?
So all it took was for the shaman to casually visit her in the present, drag her back to the past, and then send her back again, and suddenly everything is fine? Since when did the shaman have godlike powers? And while we’re at it, can someone explain how any of these back-and-forth trips were even possible?
Did the writer ever decide whether this was reincarnation or transmigration?
And how exactly did she return to the present while her past self continued living happily ever after with the prince? Did one Shin Seori suddenly become two?
Better yet, how did she and the prince survive that cliff fall? Especially her, after plunging dozens of meters with an arrow stuck in her back.
Back in the present, how was the villain exposed? Did his driver simply decide to turn him in to the police? What suddenly motivated him to do that?
And what about Cha Seo-gye? How did he recover from the scandal? Wasn’t his perfume brand accused of using toxic ingredients? After all that controversy, he was still handing out boxes of that same perfume to everyone in the cast.
Seriously, this ending ended up looking like Swiss cheese—full of holes. The writers gave us a romantic happy ending and basically said, “To hell with the logic and consistency of the story.”
alguém consegue explicar como ela passou de dama da corte pra rainha?
Como ela progrediu de uma jovem bobinha, vulnerável e inocente pra sua versão durona e implacável?
Alguém entendeu como foi possível ela retornar pro presente se a mesma xamã havia dito que se ela voltasse para salvar o príncipe ela jamais poderia retornar para o presente?
No final das contas, aquele cometa do azar não influenciou em nada para sua transmigração. Passou a história toda ali no céu a troco de nada??
Bastou a xamã decidir ir lá fazer uma visita pra ela no presente, pegar ela de volta pro passado e depois mandar de volta pro presente que tá tudo certo? De onde surgiu todo esse poder dela?? Mas alguém também explica como essas idas e vindas foram possíveis.
O roteirista decidiu se a viagem no tempo era reencarnação, transmigração?? E como ela voltou pro presente e a versão dela do passado continuou vivendo lá atrás com o príncipe??? De uma shin seori, viraram duas?
Ou melhor, como ela e o príncipe sobreviveram à queda do penhasco? especialmente ela depois de cair algumas dezenas de metros com uma flechada nas costas
Voltando pro presente, como o vilão foi desmascarado? Foi só o motorista dele resolver dedurá-lo pra polícia? Qual foi a motivação pra ele fazer isso do nada?
E o cha seo-gye, como se recuperou das acusações? Aquele perfume dele não havia sido condenado por denúncia de componentes tóxicos na fórmula? E mesmo assim, depois de todo o bafafá, ele ainda presenteou o elenco com caixas desse perfume.
Gente, esse final acabou que nem um queijo suíço, cheio de furos. Deu um final feliz romântico pra gente e foda-se a coerência de toda a história.
We’ll buy into just about anything as long as we get a happy ending with a few kisses.
The chemistry between the actors carried the entire drama on its back, because the story itself is confusing and full of loose ends. There are so many unexplained events and plot twists that happen without any clear thread connecting them or explaining their logic or how they were even possible.
The script simply throws in solutions to problems that, moments earlier, seemed completely irreversible. It feels as though the audience is being treated like idiots who will just accept and believe anything.
I loved the main characters and their romance. I found their dynamic funny in several moments, although I also experienced a lot of second-hand embarrassment and felt that many of those scenes were tonally out of place.
Still, the writing leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to logic and consistency. The story keeps creating new problems all the time and feels like it’s simply dragging things out without any real progression. In fact, the ending arrives quite suddenly, with a solution that comes completely out of nowhere for no reason, lacking both logic and coherence.
There are dramas that, although I enjoyed them quite a bit, I lowered the rating a little because I considered some weak points in the script. Like in Fated Hearts, which is one of my favorites, but I felt it failed in the resolution of some characters.
I also really enjoyed "Love Beyond the Grave" and gave it a good rating, although at times I found some episodes a bit tedious and very slow. However, it manages to pick up the pace again and conclude with a great ending.
C-dramas like Legend of Female General, Prisoner of Beauty and Blossom, I found started out very exciting in the first few episodes but dropped drastically in quality, both in the pace of development and in the quality of the script and characters.
algo que me agrada nesse estilo de romance cdrama é como a história usa os próprios desafios da vida como componentes do drama, incluindo sonhos, inseguranças, as questões materiais, familiares, de saúde, o amor (seja ou não o romântico) sem precisar apelar para a fórmula de vilões, acidentes mirabolantes, etc.
Claro que há um recurso de fundo, que percebo bem da cultura e ideologia chinesa, de uma moralidade do trabalho árduo, da família e da coletividade (aqui incorporada em um senso de comunidade e na construção da nação).
Achei que os autores conseguiram seguir essa fórmula com um bom desenvolvimento e com personagens e atuações cativantes.
E, em se tratando do romance, elemento central, amei a química do casal e todo o processo de construção do amor, do relacionamento, além de um desfecho lindo, amoroso e aconchegante.
O drama tem muitas qualidades, mas no último 1/3 eu já tava agonizando com a lentidão, sofrendo pra conseguir ver até o final. Então tudo aquilo de bom que tem na história, nos personagens, começa a ficar maçante, chato. Mas precisava ir até o fim pra ver os desfechos de cada história. Nesse ponto, valeu a pena, gostei do final de cada um. Mas teria sido perfeito se fosse um dorama de 8-10 episódios, 12 no máximo se fossem episódios mais curtos e o ritmo de desenvolvimento mais rápido.
Acriticamente, posso dizer que fui seduzida pela beleza e sorriso estonteante do protagonista. Só isso mesmo pra aguentar o tanto de overdose de sofrimento que a história empurra na gente.
Contudo, avaliando criticamente, mesmo com várias cenas engraçadas, eu tendo rido bastante, achei que eles pesaram no melodrama em dado momento.
Muitas posturas e decisões do protagonista foram bem questionáveis e desnecessárias, bem tóxicas e incoerentes com a prota. Me pareceu mais uma apelação do roterista pra gente sofrer e chorar.
Muito nada a ver ele ter sequestrado ela no dia do casamento e ainda impedir as oportunidades dela escapar de volta pro noivo. Esperei alguma revelação que explicasse e desse sentido ao fora absolutamente cruel que ele deu nela ao romper a relação com ela no passado, mas simplesmente não veio. Se isso não foi um buraco na história, então realmente foi puro egoísmo e escrotice dele. Nem nenhum momento ele pensou no bem dela.
Quando ela resolve largar o noivo e voltar pra ele, lá vem de novo ele querendo abandoná-la e sempre com as palavras mais cruéis. Daí por diante, ainda coube a ela ficar correndo atrás dele e fazer todas as loucuras por ele, enquanto ele continuava abandonando e largando ela de forma desnecessária.
Meu coração agradeceu as lindas cenas de romance deles depois, mas só como uma compensação mínima pro tanto de lágrimas, pq convencimento mesmo não teve.
E aquele personagem John? pintam o cara com maior mistério, achei que ele fosse algum filho bastardo da véia ou do falecido, e no fim não era nada.. só um casca grossa carente, feliz de ganhar uma mãe. Nenhuma outra informação a mais.Enfim, ri muito, mas chorei mais do que necessário, tanto que lá pelo 8o ep eu já tava torcendo pro homem morrer logo kk não queria nem me iludir com alguma cura milagrosa.
era tantas camadas a mais de sofrimento que a partir do ep 8 eu já tava suplicando pra ele morrer logo. Não aguentava mais chorar, vendo ele abandonar a pobi veia desnecessariamente. A história me enganou me fazendo achar até o último ep que ele tinha sido largado pelos pais aos 8 anos, sendo que ele que saiu de casa já adolescente. Passei o dorama todo pensando que ele era mais fudido do que era (apesar dos pesares). Qual foi a necessidade de largar a mulher na porta da mãe biológica daquele jeito???
eu me debulhei em lágrimas nessa cena quando essa música começou a tocar! loucura como uma cena tão doida e hilária consegue ao mesmo tempo ser tão tocante.. achei muito sensível o jogo de câmera, com ela no centro, fixa, quanto tudo em volta tá o mais completo caos. Ela sendo salva, como alguém realmente importante para seus amigos, que tão lá dando de tudo por ela.. so fucking special.
alguém mais chorou na cena do resgate dela, com a música do Radiohead e o pau comendo solto ao fundo? kkk nem eu acreditei quando me vi me debulhando em lágrimas.
Did anyone else cry during her rescue scene, with Radiohead playing and the fight raging in the background? 😂 I honestly couldn’t believe I was bawling my eyes out.
Overall, it’s another fantasy romance that follows the same formula of twists, heartbreak, and dramatic turns as many others in the genre. But one of its biggest strengths is that the writing stays coherent throughout. The plot doesn’t lose itself halfway through; it develops smoothly, with the story continuing to fit together and make sense as it progresses.
A lot of c-dramas disappoint me because they start off absolutely amazing and exciting, only to completely fall apart halfway through. The quality drops dramatically, the pacing becomes messy, and the characters lose everything that made them interesting in the beginning, turning dull, annoying, weak, or just boring. That didn’t happen here. Instead, the characters kept their strengths and actually grew stronger over time. They matured and evolved in a positive way.
I’m usually part of the crowd that absolutely hates the overly childish female lead trope with the baby voice. But after struggling through the first few episodes, I managed to look past it because the protagonist herself was actually a really good character.
I also loved the Moon Supreme character — absolutely wonderful. He’s captivating both in his dark, powerful version and in his softer, more affectionate side later on. What I appreciated most is that he doesn’t suddenly become a clueless idiot just because he develops feelings and becomes kinder.
The supporting characters were excellent too. Besides being genuinely interesting and very well acted, they actually mattered to the story. They weren’t just dead weight taking up screen time.
Like in almost every c-drama, we spend far more time suffering alongside the couple than actually enjoying their romantic moments together. Still, once they finally acknowledge their love, there are a few beautiful and satisfying moments between them — even if they’re too brief.
In the end, the emotional peak was really in the journey itself. The ending was happy, but in that slightly frustrating way where everything wraps up too abruptly. There’s a time skip, and suddenly things just happen without properly showing how they got there or giving us enough time to fully enjoy the happy ending. Some character conclusions also feel underdeveloped. That’s the disappointing part for me, and the reason I couldn’t rate it higher. After all, when you invest yourself in a 36-episode rollercoaster full of suffering and drama, you expect a truly rewarding payoff at the end.
pois é.. não sei onde viram química. O casal vive sofrendo com as separações e momentos de perigo, mas quando estão juntos mal se beijam. Ficam com aquelas frescuras como se fossem crianças namorando, que mal pode pegar na mão um do outro. Dormi em vários episódios, que pareciam se arrastar e as coisas evoluírem muito lentamente
Overall, it was a good pastime. I really like the actors who play the main characters — especially the male lead, whom I basically watched because of his beauty and charm. If you just let yourself get carried away by the romance without thinking too critically, simply watching to relax and unwind, then it’s perfectly fine.
However, it’s hard not to be more demanding in your evaluation when you compare it to other dramas with stronger writing, performances, and acting. Looking at the story critically, there’s no way to ignore that it feels very dragged out, has many loose ends, and is confusing most of the time. On top of that, the romance is barely explored. They hardly kiss, and the relationship constantly stays in that almost painful kind of love, without much intimacy between them. It feels like simply standing next to each other is supposed to be enough — even after so much separation and waiting.
I also found the dialogue and soundtrack very cheesy. At times, it even makes the actors seem like bad performers, although I think the script is mostly to blame. Even though I wanted to see how the story would unfold and liked the characters, I fell asleep several times in the middle of episodes. This was one of the dramas that took me the longest to binge-watch.
In the end, though, I enjoyed watching it and don’t regret it. I think it can still be a good experience — you just have to overlook all of these issues.
lindo, perfeito! Ela já madura, segura de si, renovada por um amor diferente dos anteriores.. alguém que rapidamente lutou por ela e a teve como certeza, dando tempo e paz pra ela escolher o seu melhor momento. Sem pressão, sem chantagem emocional, muito carinho, importânciae leveza. Chega de sofrimento. Um cara super decidido, amei o general objetivo! Razou Yumi, vai ser feliz!
Mais alguém pensa isso? Será que vai melhorar ainda?
How did she go from a naïve, vulnerable, and somewhat clueless young woman to a ruthless, unstoppable badass?
Did anyone understand how she was able to return to the present when the very same shaman had explicitly said that if she went back to save the prince, she would never be able to return?
In the end, that supposedly ominous comet had absolutely no impact on her transmigration. It spent the entire drama hanging in the sky for nothing?
So all it took was for the shaman to casually visit her in the present, drag her back to the past, and then send her back again, and suddenly everything is fine? Since when did the shaman have godlike powers? And while we’re at it, can someone explain how any of these back-and-forth trips were even possible?
Did the writer ever decide whether this was reincarnation or transmigration?
And how exactly did she return to the present while her past self continued living happily ever after with the prince? Did one Shin Seori suddenly become two?
Better yet, how did she and the prince survive that cliff fall? Especially her, after plunging dozens of meters with an arrow stuck in her back.
Back in the present, how was the villain exposed? Did his driver simply decide to turn him in to the police? What suddenly motivated him to do that?
And what about Cha Seo-gye? How did he recover from the scandal? Wasn’t his perfume brand accused of using toxic ingredients? After all that controversy, he was still handing out boxes of that same perfume to everyone in the cast.
Seriously, this ending ended up looking like Swiss cheese—full of holes. The writers gave us a romantic happy ending and basically said, “To hell with the logic and consistency of the story.”
Como ela progrediu de uma jovem bobinha, vulnerável e inocente pra sua versão durona e implacável?
Alguém entendeu como foi possível ela retornar pro presente se a mesma xamã havia dito que se ela voltasse para salvar o príncipe ela jamais poderia retornar para o presente?
No final das contas, aquele cometa do azar não influenciou em nada para sua transmigração. Passou a história toda ali no céu a troco de nada??
Bastou a xamã decidir ir lá fazer uma visita pra ela no presente, pegar ela de volta pro passado e depois mandar de volta pro presente que tá tudo certo? De onde surgiu todo esse poder dela?? Mas alguém também explica como essas idas e vindas foram possíveis.
O roteirista decidiu se a viagem no tempo era reencarnação, transmigração??
E como ela voltou pro presente e a versão dela do passado continuou vivendo lá atrás com o príncipe??? De uma shin seori, viraram duas?
Ou melhor, como ela e o príncipe sobreviveram à queda do penhasco? especialmente ela depois de cair algumas dezenas de metros com uma flechada nas costas
Voltando pro presente, como o vilão foi desmascarado? Foi só o motorista dele resolver dedurá-lo pra polícia? Qual foi a motivação pra ele fazer isso do nada?
E o cha seo-gye, como se recuperou das acusações? Aquele perfume dele não havia sido condenado por denúncia de componentes tóxicos na fórmula? E mesmo assim, depois de todo o bafafá, ele ainda presenteou o elenco com caixas desse perfume.
Gente, esse final acabou que nem um queijo suíço, cheio de furos. Deu um final feliz romântico pra gente e foda-se a coerência de toda a história.
The chemistry between the actors carried the entire drama on its back, because the story itself is confusing and full of loose ends. There are so many unexplained events and plot twists that happen without any clear thread connecting them or explaining their logic or how they were even possible.
The script simply throws in solutions to problems that, moments earlier, seemed completely irreversible. It feels as though the audience is being treated like idiots who will just accept and believe anything.
I loved the main characters and their romance. I found their dynamic funny in several moments, although I also experienced a lot of second-hand embarrassment and felt that many of those scenes were tonally out of place.
Still, the writing leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to logic and consistency. The story keeps creating new problems all the time and feels like it’s simply dragging things out without any real progression. In fact, the ending arrives quite suddenly, with a solution that comes completely out of nowhere for no reason, lacking both logic and coherence.
I also really enjoyed "Love Beyond the Grave" and gave it a good rating, although at times I found some episodes a bit tedious and very slow. However, it manages to pick up the pace again and conclude with a great ending.
C-dramas like Legend of Female General, Prisoner of Beauty and Blossom, I found started out very exciting in the first few episodes but dropped drastically in quality, both in the pace of development and in the quality of the script and characters.
Claro que há um recurso de fundo, que percebo bem da cultura e ideologia chinesa, de uma moralidade do trabalho árduo, da família e da coletividade (aqui incorporada em um senso de comunidade e na construção da nação).
Achei que os autores conseguiram seguir essa fórmula com um bom desenvolvimento e com personagens e atuações cativantes.
E, em se tratando do romance, elemento central, amei a química do casal e todo o processo de construção do amor, do relacionamento, além de um desfecho lindo, amoroso e aconchegante.
Contudo, avaliando criticamente, mesmo com várias cenas engraçadas, eu tendo rido bastante, achei que eles pesaram no melodrama em dado momento.
Muitas posturas e decisões do protagonista foram bem questionáveis e desnecessárias, bem tóxicas e incoerentes com a prota. Me pareceu mais uma apelação do roterista pra gente sofrer e chorar.
Muito nada a ver ele ter sequestrado ela no dia do casamento e ainda impedir as oportunidades dela escapar de volta pro noivo. Esperei alguma revelação que explicasse e desse sentido ao fora absolutamente cruel que ele deu nela ao romper a relação com ela no passado, mas simplesmente não veio. Se isso não foi um buraco na história, então realmente foi puro egoísmo e escrotice dele. Nem nenhum momento ele pensou no bem dela.
Quando ela resolve largar o noivo e voltar pra ele, lá vem de novo ele querendo abandoná-la e sempre com as palavras mais cruéis. Daí por diante, ainda coube a ela ficar correndo atrás dele e fazer todas as loucuras por ele, enquanto ele continuava abandonando e largando ela de forma desnecessária.
Meu coração agradeceu as lindas cenas de romance deles depois, mas só como uma compensação mínima pro tanto de lágrimas, pq convencimento mesmo não teve.
E aquele personagem John? pintam o cara com maior mistério, achei que ele fosse algum filho bastardo da véia ou do falecido, e no fim não era nada.. só um casca grossa carente, feliz de ganhar uma mãe. Nenhuma outra informação a mais.Enfim, ri muito, mas chorei mais do que necessário, tanto que lá pelo 8o ep eu já tava torcendo pro homem morrer logo kk não queria nem me iludir com alguma cura milagrosa.
tinha sido largado pelos pais aos 8 anos, sendo que ele que saiu de casa já adolescente. Passei o dorama todo pensando que ele era mais fudido do que era (apesar dos pesares).
Qual foi a necessidade de largar a mulher na porta da mãe biológica daquele jeito???
Did anyone else cry during her rescue scene, with Radiohead playing and the fight raging in the background? 😂 I honestly couldn’t believe I was bawling my eyes out.
A lot of c-dramas disappoint me because they start off absolutely amazing and exciting, only to completely fall apart halfway through. The quality drops dramatically, the pacing becomes messy, and the characters lose everything that made them interesting in the beginning, turning dull, annoying, weak, or just boring. That didn’t happen here. Instead, the characters kept their strengths and actually grew stronger over time. They matured and evolved in a positive way.
I’m usually part of the crowd that absolutely hates the overly childish female lead trope with the baby voice. But after struggling through the first few episodes, I managed to look past it because the protagonist herself was actually a really good character.
I also loved the Moon Supreme character — absolutely wonderful. He’s captivating both in his dark, powerful version and in his softer, more affectionate side later on. What I appreciated most is that he doesn’t suddenly become a clueless idiot just because he develops feelings and becomes kinder.
The supporting characters were excellent too. Besides being genuinely interesting and very well acted, they actually mattered to the story. They weren’t just dead weight taking up screen time.
Like in almost every c-drama, we spend far more time suffering alongside the couple than actually enjoying their romantic moments together. Still, once they finally acknowledge their love, there are a few beautiful and satisfying moments between them — even if they’re too brief.
In the end, the emotional peak was really in the journey itself. The ending was happy, but in that slightly frustrating way where everything wraps up too abruptly. There’s a time skip, and suddenly things just happen without properly showing how they got there or giving us enough time to fully enjoy the happy ending. Some character conclusions also feel underdeveloped. That’s the disappointing part for me, and the reason I couldn’t rate it higher. After all, when you invest yourself in a 36-episode rollercoaster full of suffering and drama, you expect a truly rewarding payoff at the end.
However, it’s hard not to be more demanding in your evaluation when you compare it to other dramas with stronger writing, performances, and acting. Looking at the story critically, there’s no way to ignore that it feels very dragged out, has many loose ends, and is confusing most of the time. On top of that, the romance is barely explored. They hardly kiss, and the relationship constantly stays in that almost painful kind of love, without much intimacy between them. It feels like simply standing next to each other is supposed to be enough — even after so much separation and waiting.
I also found the dialogue and soundtrack very cheesy. At times, it even makes the actors seem like bad performers, although I think the script is mostly to blame. Even though I wanted to see how the story would unfold and liked the characters, I fell asleep several times in the middle of episodes. This was one of the dramas that took me the longest to binge-watch.
In the end, though, I enjoyed watching it and don’t regret it. I think it can still be a good experience — you just have to overlook all of these issues.