Comments like this are really unfortunate. Instead of discussing the merits of the series, you've decided that…
"People hating on this show just don’t know how Japan works. " IMO you are calling people who don't share your opinions about the show uninformed haters is name calling. If you disagree that's fine. It's impossible to have a discussion with someone who is convinced that their point of view is the only valid one and then plays the victim when someone shares a different perspective.
I never brought up Europeans, Americans or Westerners, once again you're making assumptions about the audience based on your preexisting thoughts/beliefs. People all over the world watch shows from other parts of the world and all people are entitled to share their thoughts on this site about shows. It is art and art is subjective.
Feeling a personal connection with a tv show is a wonderful experience. But your personal connection to a show does not negate the thoughts or opinions of other people.
I am on here to read other people's opinions about Minato Shouji Coin Laundry season 2, not to debate your prejudices (you literally prejudged people who disagree with you in your initial comment) or norms within your family. I won't be responding anymore because conversations like this are not productive.
People hating on this show just don’t know how Japan works. This is one of the classic Japanese way of comedic…
Comments like this are really unfortunate. Instead of discussing the merits of the series, you've decided that your personal experiences nullify the thoughts and opinions of other people who you know nothing about. Assuming that everyone commenting about flaws in the series are non-Asian "haters" who are only expressing these opinions because of ignorance about Japanese society is extremely presumptuous. You have no idea who in this forum is or isn't Japanese or Asian, as if it even matters. There is no rule that says only people in the country a show or movie is made in can have an opinion on that show or movie. There are literally billions of Asian people and all of them don't express love the same way. All Asians who live outside of Asia don't express love in the same way either. You being Asian does not automatically make you the authority or what is "normal" in Asia a continent with 45+ countries.
I've yet to see one comment suggesting that the problem with this series is that Minato doesn't tell Shin he loves him frequently enough. And even if someone does think that, they are entitled to think it no matter what their nationality is. I could list dozens of Japanese series with characters who express love in various ways to their partners or families. And 100s of series throughout. There is not only one way to express love in any culture.
Lastly, the way you express love within your family is YOUR BUSINESS. This is a BL, a genre that focuses on love within a couple, not familial love. So how your family expresses love in your house has little to do with how these tv characters who are boyfriends do or do not express love in their relationship. You are entitled to your opinion without being called names and so are all the rest of us. But coming here and suggesting that commenters are wrong just because they don't think like you or haven't lived your experiences is not kind and is very unnecessary.
This is the most accurate review I have read. It looks like kindergarten! The story no longer has any interest,…
I agree. This year has felt like a big regression. The focus has shifted to quantity, while the quality of many series in terms of the writing just isn't there. I've dropped more shows this year than ever before and that is really unfortunate. This show is a perfect example of how frustrating regression from characters is to watch. I'm not looking forward to 8 more episodes of these characters.
"You're such a hopeless fool" - Minato. Yeah that sums up all 4 characters perfectly, the problem for me is that the longer these relationships tread water, the less I care.
Shin's complete devotion to Minato was kinda endearing is season 1, but now he just seems pathetic and foolish. Minato is no better because even though his behavior has stayed consistent, the writer has failed to explain why a 30 year man in the 21st century behaves like a prideful virgin from 100s of years ago, protecting his chastity as if it was the greatest prize in the world. Literally no one would put up with this shit except for Shin and yet he treats Shin like crap every single day. If I can't understand a character's motivation because the writer didn't bother to give him any depth, then I can't get invested or stay invested in a story. Is it so hard to give us a flashback showing something that would make Minato's current aversion to any kind of intimacy make sense!?!??!
I don't need these two to have skinship, I don't need Minato to be kind (but honestly that shouldn't be too much to ask for when Shin treats him sooooo well), but I do need to have a reason to want these characters to be together or each episode feels truly pointless. And that's where I am now. I know they'll end up together. I know there will be a bunch of misunderstandings just to fill the run time. And at this point, the entire season feels pointless!!
I won't bother talking about the other couple because one conversation could solve all of their "problems" and I'm beyond sick of watching series after series with guys who don't communicate just for the sake of "conflict". It's lazy writing and very uninteresting to watch.
I think I would have enjoyed this more if I waited until it ended and binged it. Watching sadness and suffering week after week all because of a child's secret is frustrating. I love the love Ren and Kazuma have for each other. But everything else is a seemingly endless weight on the series.
Flashbacks of happy moments are nice, but not enough to make me look forward to the rest of the story. It's clear the episode 7 will be more of the same and the pair will reunite at the end of the finale. I'd rather see a story about what happens to them after they get together for real, instead of weeks and weeks of what we've seen so far. *sigh*
I'd be ok with a mostly sad story that focused on Ren's grief and how losing Kazuma hurt him over the years. But they are spending time on the rapist boss instead of going more indepth into what Ren is feeling. And that's also frustrating.
It's hard to find good things to say about this one. It's lacking in all the ways that make a series worth watching. I'm sticking with it for now just because I've dropped so many series this year that my watch list is nearly empty. Thank goodness for 2x speed!
The first episode was fine. There are so many office BLs these days, that most of the first episode felt like a bland retelling of series I've already seen. The actor playing Lee Jun didn't do a good enough job to make me look forward to more from him. The constant deer in the headlights style of acting is not enjoyable for me.
But I'm a sucker for kids in BLs and the boys were adorable. I'll stick around hoping for more flashbacks with them.
Hard pass from me. I just can't sit through another Thai BL with amateur acting and a paper thin script. Also, I know this is the year of the office BL, but it would be great if the people making Thai office BLs had ever stepped inside a real office. Each office set looks like a rich kid's fantasy of an office.
I hope they got a big check from McDonald's that was effective advertising. Now I really want some french fries!
Mame knows her audience, so I'm sure plenty of viewers love every minute of this one. Enjoy it 👋
Finally! Someone talking about women slapping men in these series. I’m sick to the teeth of it. And the thing…
"And the thing is, they do it because they know they won’t get hit back." - EXACTLY!! She felt like she was entitled to repeatedly hit them and that is completely wrong. I don't want women getting hit, but I don't want men getting hit either. It's never ok to do that.
Episode 7 was by far the worst of the series. Mostly sex scenes and almost no story for the side characters. I know irl many people are anti-gay, but it's exhausting watching series after series with people who are violently anti-gay and truly despicable in every way. Also tired of watching women slapping men and acting like that's acceptable behavior. It's not ok to hit people even when you're angry. That is assault.
I know this is a short telenovela, but wow is it focusing on the wrong things. It's over next week and I'll forget about it quickly, it's hard not to be disappointed with next yet another below average series that wasted its potential.
I know Oxin isn't going to improve, but if they just took out all the awkward and immature conversations about sex, their series would be soooooo much more enjoyable to watch.
In Thailand, they have what's called a "pilot trailer." It's a trailer that's created before the show is actually…
I'm used to seeing multiple trailers from the con ept stage of a series until they are about to air. I just didn't know the very first trailer was called a pilot.
This was my most anticipated Thai series of the year and the trailer/pilot did not disappoint.
TayNew have always been great together, I felt their chemistry every second. And I'm soooooo excited to see SingJan on screen together, those two deserve all the happiness and success. The whole cast is going to be great and I'm hopeful that the script lives up to the original. I can't wait for the first episode!!!
The real joke is the inflated rating! Between Dunk's acting that most people have appropriately dragged for being worse than in the trailer and SIMM, and this cookie cutter script we've seen dozens of times before, this deserves a 7.5 at best. But GMMTV BLs are consistently rated higher than other Thai BLs when they start, so I'm not really surprised by the very high rating for such an average series after one day.
On a positive note, the complete lack of chemistry between the leads makes JaFirst's new series seem good by comparison and only because those two have real on-screen chemistry!
I'm putting this on hold until Be My Favorite is over. The plot of both GMMTV shows is too similar, Kawi is frustrating but not an entitled, self-involved, loser like Zo appears to be so far and Krist and Gawin can act, unlike what we have here.
After watching Hidden Agenda yesterday I started feeling more positive about the first episode of BMS. So when I watched episode 2 I fast forwarded through everything with Punn's family and every second with manager Sompriao. And I really enjoyed episode 2.
Ja is doing a good job and even though First didn't have much to do, I enjoyed his scenes too. Of course the plots of HA and BMS are nothing alike, but both have leads who are established ships and it's nice that JaFirst actually have chemistry. And it's also nice that the plot of this series isn't exactly the same as a million other BLs. I'm looking forward to watching Punn and Ashi grow closer in future episodes.
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I never brought up Europeans, Americans or Westerners, once again you're making assumptions about the audience based on your preexisting thoughts/beliefs. People all over the world watch shows from other parts of the world and all people are entitled to share their thoughts on this site about shows. It is art and art is subjective.
Feeling a personal connection with a tv show is a wonderful experience. But your personal connection to a show does not negate the thoughts or opinions of other people.
I am on here to read other people's opinions about Minato Shouji Coin Laundry season 2, not to debate your prejudices (you literally prejudged people who disagree with you in your initial comment) or norms within your family. I won't be responding anymore because conversations like this are not productive.
I've yet to see one comment suggesting that the problem with this series is that Minato doesn't tell Shin he loves him frequently enough. And even if someone does think that, they are entitled to think it no matter what their nationality is. I could list dozens of Japanese series with characters who express love in various ways to their partners or families. And 100s of series throughout. There is not only one way to express love in any culture.
Lastly, the way you express love within your family is YOUR BUSINESS. This is a BL, a genre that focuses on love within a couple, not familial love. So how your family expresses love in your house has little to do with how these tv characters who are boyfriends do or do not express love in their relationship. You are entitled to your opinion without being called names and so are all the rest of us. But coming here and suggesting that commenters are wrong just because they don't think like you or haven't lived your experiences is not kind and is very unnecessary.
Shin's complete devotion to Minato was kinda endearing is season 1, but now he just seems pathetic and foolish. Minato is no better because even though his behavior has stayed consistent, the writer has failed to explain why a 30 year man in the 21st century behaves like a prideful virgin from 100s of years ago, protecting his chastity as if it was the greatest prize in the world. Literally no one would put up with this shit except for Shin and yet he treats Shin like crap every single day. If I can't understand a character's motivation because the writer didn't bother to give him any depth, then I can't get invested or stay invested in a story. Is it so hard to give us a flashback showing something that would make Minato's current aversion to any kind of intimacy make sense!?!??!
I don't need these two to have skinship, I don't need Minato to be kind (but honestly that shouldn't be too much to ask for when Shin treats him sooooo well), but I do need to have a reason to want these characters to be together or each episode feels truly pointless. And that's where I am now. I know they'll end up together. I know there will be a bunch of misunderstandings just to fill the run time. And at this point, the entire season feels pointless!!
I won't bother talking about the other couple because one conversation could solve all of their "problems" and I'm beyond sick of watching series after series with guys who don't communicate just for the sake of "conflict". It's lazy writing and very uninteresting to watch.
Flashbacks of happy moments are nice, but not enough to make me look forward to the rest of the story. It's clear the episode 7 will be more of the same and the pair will reunite at the end of the finale. I'd rather see a story about what happens to them after they get together for real, instead of weeks and weeks of what we've seen so far. *sigh*
I'd be ok with a mostly sad story that focused on Ren's grief and how losing Kazuma hurt him over the years. But they are spending time on the rapist boss instead of going more indepth into what Ren is feeling. And that's also frustrating.
But I'm a sucker for kids in BLs and the boys were adorable. I'll stick around hoping for more flashbacks with them.
I hope they got a big check from McDonald's that was effective advertising. Now I really want some french fries!
Mame knows her audience, so I'm sure plenty of viewers love every minute of this one. Enjoy it 👋
I know this is a short telenovela, but wow is it focusing on the wrong things. It's over next week and I'll forget about it quickly, it's hard not to be disappointed with next yet another below average series that wasted its potential.
I know Oxin isn't going to improve, but if they just took out all the awkward and immature conversations about sex, their series would be soooooo much more enjoyable to watch.
TayNew have always been great together, I felt their chemistry every second. And I'm soooooo excited to see SingJan on screen together, those two deserve all the happiness and success. The whole cast is going to be great and I'm hopeful that the script lives up to the original. I can't wait for the first episode!!!
On a positive note, the complete lack of chemistry between the leads makes JaFirst's new series seem good by comparison and only because those two have real on-screen chemistry!
I'm putting this on hold until Be My Favorite is over. The plot of both GMMTV shows is too similar, Kawi is frustrating but not an entitled, self-involved, loser like Zo appears to be so far and Krist and Gawin can act, unlike what we have here.
Ja is doing a good job and even though First didn't have much to do, I enjoyed his scenes too. Of course the plots of HA and BMS are nothing alike, but both have leads who are established ships and it's nice that JaFirst actually have chemistry. And it's also nice that the plot of this series isn't exactly the same as a million other BLs. I'm looking forward to watching Punn and Ashi grow closer in future episodes.