Eps 11 and 12 were so triggering for me. FL's mother really embodies the woman who grew up poor and lacks EQ but…
She needs to stop helping for real. Every time she decides it’s a great idea to talk to other people about MCH behind MCH’s back, I want to hit my head against a wall. Lady, WHEN has that ever worked out in your experience? Haven’t you noticed you keep making things worse every time you open your mouth?
they wasted too much time on chenghuan's break up story line. if i hadn't find out about the break up, i would've…
I hated that storyline and skipped through many scenes with the mother and the useless boyfriend, but there was a point to it; it showed us what the Mai family is like in great detail, including the story behind the parents’ marriage (girl from a poor village comes to the big city and marries a local to better her life, but he never becomes successful) and how that’s affected their views on their children’s futures, the mother’s neglectful treatment of their younger child, the rich grandmother’s connection to the family and Mr Mai’s discomfort with her, the mother’s belief it’s her job to set Mai Chenghuan up for a good life coupled with her lack of respect for her daughter’s feelings and opinions, Mai Chenghuan (and Mai Chengzao)’s work ethic and pride in their own efforts and the mom’s inability to understand it, the fact that despite it all MCH loves her parents very much, etc. Since this is a family drama, the first 10-12 episodes served to establish the major themes we’ll be dealing with for the remaining 25.
As for MCH’s relationship with Yao Zhiming, the opening arc of the story set up that part too. They needed those 10 episodes (in reality it will probably take another 10) to see each other’s best and worst sides before they could even begin to see each other in a romantic light, so it hardly mattered if MCH was in a relationship with someone else during that time or not.
Anyway, I agree many scenes in the early episodes were frustrating and I was dying of impatience with the show at times, but they were necessary IMO.
Clocking in for my daily shift at the hating Ms Liu factory... It's painfully annoying to watch someone with the mentality and social graces of a child being parented by her own children while thinking she's helping them. But also... Yao Zhiming sexy...
If you are a non-asian person then this drama will be difficult for you to watch... This drama is gaining a huge…
The whole drama is about Huan living her values and how different she is from her mother, so saying the show wants you to simply “accept” her mother’s excessive meddling and harmful behaviours (like how unfair she is to her son and the way she goes behind Huan’s back to beg people for inappropriate favours that make Huan herself look bad) simply because that’s how some Chinese mothers think is insane. The story itself does not approve of Huan’s mother or excuse her actions because she’s Chinese!
The drama provides several examples of women taking care of their families and clearly pits the ignorance and selfishness of Huan’s mother against the grace and wisdom of her grandmother and Huan herself. Please stop saying we’re supposed to accept the mother’s actions because that’s just how Chinese women are; that’s not true and it’s not what the drama is saying.
IMO, today's episodes were the best... I'm impressed that Huan didn't forgive Wu You and resorted to real punishment..…
I totally agree, it's getting better and better now that we're almost done with the Xin Jialiang arc. I'm also very glad MCH refused to forgive WY because as she herself said, 1. WY had tried to sabotage her multiple times, which is completely unacceptable, and 2. she even harmed the company's bottom line by invalidating the bidding process just to get MCH in trouble. That's such an egregious error of judgment it would actually be unfair to the other employees if the company just swept it under the rug. MCH's boss really annoyed me with his weaselly attempt to cover for WY there.
As for XJL, when he was first introduced I thought he was kind of goofy but sweet. Well, in the last several episodes he's become completely intolerable. He doesn't listen to MCH at all and doesn't seem to know the first thing about the principles and values that guide her. He will only have himself to blame when she dumps him.
I know it's an old-school premise, but I love these shows where the cold and calculating ML tries to use the FL for his own professional/revenge purposes, but she's just so alluring he falls in love with her while trying to manipulate her and it ruins all his plans. Yes, suffer, snake! This is the good shit.
Xu Kai and Yang Zi both look great in this show and I like their characters. They're both smart, serious people, so they understand each other well on some level—plus, Yao Zhiming has a subtle sense of humour that sets him apart from your average emotionless CEO stock character—but their goals in life are just too different at this stage. I know I'll enjoy watching YZM grow and grovel for Mai Chenghuan's attention.
just a note for Huanhuan's mother perspective, it is really how traditional marriage in China and a lot of East…
I know that and China is not unique in having these traditions. A lot of older people in my country think the same way! But while being nice to older people and respecting their opinions is a matter of politeness, no one should be expected to let their mother's excessive ambition and hangups dictate their most important life choices. There is a limit to a child's obedience when their parents are being totally unreasonable and selfish, even in China.
Except that Jialiang also had his own version of his wedding without discuss with Huanhuan in the first place.…
Yes, that's my point. They should have communicated about something so obvious BEFORE the meeting instead of hearing about each other's dream weddings for the first time in the middle of all that chaos. They're terrible at being in a relationship.
OK, honestly, Mai Chenghuan's mother totally deserved to get humiliated at that family meeting! She was acting like a stupid hick the entire time and insisted on forcing the couple to hold some nightmare folk wedding extravaganza in her village just so she could brag about her rich son-in-law in front of people she hasn't seen in years. How selfish and oblivious can you get? Lady, read the room!
I did sympathize with Xin Jialiang when he tried to push back against her delusions, and Mai Chenghuan should have understood where he was coming from instead of arguing with him in public because he contradicted her insane mother. It's his wedding too! He should have a say.
That said, MCH and XJL should have discussed all this between themselves before their families met and figured out a compromise for their wedding, then gently guided their families in that direction. When you know your families are going to have totally mismatched expectations and don't get along, you should at least come prepared and present a united front as a couple!
The mother reached peak nuisance in episode 5... I felt so bad for Zao when he cancelled his important meeting to keep her pacified. I just know when he starts dating Huan's best friend (we all know that's where the plot is going, right?), his mother will be extremely rude to her despite everything she's done for the Mai family just because she's divorced.
Xin Jialiang needs to exit stage left PRONTO. After lying to Chenghuan for so long and going on a blind date instead of visiting her family, the insane proposal event that jeopardized her work should have been the third and final strike... and then there was that hideous engagement ring!
I can't wait for her to dump him, seriously.
Yao Zhiming, on the other hand, is so amusing. He's a cold and suspicious little bitch who thinks Chenghuan is embarrassing and pathetic (because that's how she's appeared to him a couple of times), but at the same time he's forced to acknowledge her competence and goodness. I can't wait for him to fall in love with her despite himself; I hope they make it good!
Wu Lei has repeatedly proven himself to be one of the best actors of his generation, and he is continuing to work…
Be for fucking real, his acting is dogshit lmao
He doesn't bother me any more than any other popular Chinese actor who can't act, which is basically all of them (with 2-3 exceptions). But let's not lie to ourselves.
Why is this comment section flooded with people complaining about Hu Yitian's acting, when Leo Wu's equally wooden acting never gets any criticism? Shut up and let us have fun here!
OMG, she sold off the dowry her uncle left her... but she kept one wine jar... and gave it to Gu Yanxi! Girl, you think you're repaying him for helping you, but that's still your dowry! Don't you know how this works? I love romantic foreshadowing like this.
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As for MCH’s relationship with Yao Zhiming, the opening arc of the story set up that part too. They needed those 10 episodes (in reality it will probably take another 10) to see each other’s best and worst sides before they could even begin to see each other in a romantic light, so it hardly mattered if MCH was in a relationship with someone else during that time or not.
Anyway, I agree many scenes in the early episodes were frustrating and I was dying of impatience with the show at times, but they were necessary IMO.
The drama provides several examples of women taking care of their families and clearly pits the ignorance and selfishness of Huan’s mother against the grace and wisdom of her grandmother and Huan herself. Please stop saying we’re supposed to accept the mother’s actions because that’s just how Chinese women are; that’s not true and it’s not what the drama is saying.
As for XJL, when he was first introduced I thought he was kind of goofy but sweet. Well, in the last several episodes he's become completely intolerable. He doesn't listen to MCH at all and doesn't seem to know the first thing about the principles and values that guide her. He will only have himself to blame when she dumps him.
Xu Kai and Yang Zi both look great in this show and I like their characters. They're both smart, serious people, so they understand each other well on some level—plus, Yao Zhiming has a subtle sense of humour that sets him apart from your average emotionless CEO stock character—but their goals in life are just too different at this stage. I know I'll enjoy watching YZM grow and grovel for Mai Chenghuan's attention.
I did sympathize with Xin Jialiang when he tried to push back against her delusions, and Mai Chenghuan should have understood where he was coming from instead of arguing with him in public because he contradicted her insane mother. It's his wedding too! He should have a say.
That said, MCH and XJL should have discussed all this between themselves before their families met and figured out a compromise for their wedding, then gently guided their families in that direction. When you know your families are going to have totally mismatched expectations and don't get along, you should at least come prepared and present a united front as a couple!
I can't wait for her to dump him, seriously.
Yao Zhiming, on the other hand, is so amusing. He's a cold and suspicious little bitch who thinks Chenghuan is embarrassing and pathetic (because that's how she's appeared to him a couple of times), but at the same time he's forced to acknowledge her competence and goodness. I can't wait for him to fall in love with her despite himself; I hope they make it good!
He doesn't bother me any more than any other popular Chinese actor who can't act, which is basically all of them (with 2-3 exceptions). But let's not lie to ourselves.