The whole point of the drama is that neither of them has been able to move on because they're both damaged people...…
I’ve no idea what dramas you’re watching or why you’re mad at women as a group. Sorry if you got cheated on or something. I’m telling you your interpretation of this show is insane.
The whole point of the drama is that neither of them has been able to move on because they're both damaged people...…
She's been depressed since she was 20 and hated her husband, whom she was forced to marry. She's had a very miserable life and is now reckoning with the fact she wasted her youth following her crazy narcissistic mother's orders, to zero benefit. Sorry to be blunt, but only a very inattentive viewer would interpret her failed marriage as a sign that she moved on from Lee Kyeongdo.
I don't get what they are doing at all? He loves her now or not? He is afraid he will be left alone again? What…
1. Yes, 2. yes, 3. escape her problems, 4. her sister explained her reasoning at the end of ep. 2, 5. there is no child (but even if there was, it wouldn't matter because the husband is a scumbag).
I am liking the main couple here. He’s a bitter loser with a heart of gold, she’s a charming bully, they’re both pathetically obvious about their lingering feelings. The fact they clearly still like each other is what makes their cat-and-dog dynamic so good.
My issues with the drama all stem from its handling of the leads’ backstory. They’re both quite immature on the surface and Won Ji-an can’t help but look her age no matter how severe her haircut and powersuit may be. I just can’t buy that these people are 38-39. They should have made them ten years younger. The flashbacks are slightly excessive too, and less engaging than the present-day scenes.
This is the second time you've dragged JCW in this comment section for literally no reason.
The person you're responding to gave an example of an actor who often picks masculine, action-oriented projects in response to the bizarre criticisms of the male lead in this drama. I think their comment made a lot of sense. It's weird that you took offence to it.
My first reaction upon hearing this casting news was, 'What a mismatched duo!' Originally I thought the issue was that Gong Myung is too young for Han Hyojoo, but then I checked and he's only seven years younger than her, which should not be a problem even if their characters were supposed to be the same age (which I'm not sure they are). Then I realized the problem is that he's just too plain for her and lacks the charisma to balance her out. She's a great actress (and has a very distinct beauty) and he's just there, comparatively speaking.
Someone with a bit of personality like Seo Kangjoon or Kim Youngkwang would be a much better fit. KYK in particular would be great at playing a down-and-out baseball player reckoning with an existential crisis IMO and he usually has good chemistry with his female co-stars. Lee Sangyeob is another actor who would excel at this kind of role, and he's actually played a similar character in the past. If we have to go younger because the character is supposed to be around 30, what about Kang Tae-oh? Or Nam Joohyuk?
This is not a Gong Myung hate comment BTW. I think he's fine. He's just not on HHJ's level.
This was an awesome first season and I can't wait for the sequel (or more precisely, the continuation). It ended on the perfect note of cresting tension.
I have to say Kamuykocha was a total scene-stealer and probably my favorite character together with my pookie Futaba despite his sparse screen time.
Speaking of Futaba, it was hilarious to watch Shujiro treat her like a princess versus how he (and his companions) treated the other inexperienced weakling in their group, whose name I'm forgetting--Shunsuke? Shinnosuke? Anyway. Futaba's innocence was worth protecting, whereas his marked him as deserving of death. It rules when sexism works in our favor for once, amirite ladies?
On the opposite end of the spectrum, in the sector reserved for characters I wish I could banish straight to the MH370 crash site, we have Bukotsu. This bitch annoyed me every time he was on my screen. Don't get me wrong, I get his character; he's lashing out at the world because he feels he's been left behind and the only thing he can do is kill people, he's a relic of a bygone era, blah blah blah. I get it!!! But here's the thing. He's not supposed to turn to the camera and explain, "I'm lashing out at the world because I feel like I've been left behind and the only thing I can do is kill people. I'm a relic of a bygone era," while killing people! Has no one heard of Freud around here? Bukotsu's attention-whoring motivations should have been hidden even from himself, let alone the viewer. It's like he was running around naked and pointing at his junk the whole time.
Anyway. Ninomiya Kazunari was perfectly cast as the smug and enigmatic MC of the kodoku. This was basically the same character he played in Black Pean, where he was also very charismatic. I get the sense purely based on the casting choice for this role that Enju will be more important to the story in S2.
Kyojin and the siblings were also very fun.
Lastly, Shujiro's wife was sleeping off a cholera infection the whole time? This woman deserves a sword to decapitate her husband with and I can only hope she'll get one soon.
The flashbacks are kept to a tasteful minimum, the music is both good on its own and used very effectively in context, the characters are good, and each episode is self-contained and tightly structured.
Han Hyojoo's performance is particularly impressive. I'm not even talking about the fact she's acting in a foreign language, which is already an amazing achievement, but about the life she breathes into her character. Lee Hana is an old-school romcom heroine in the sense of being a little strange and a bit of a loser and yet garnering the viewer's sympathies because of her emotional vulnerability and because she comes across as a real person (even if she's not a person every viewer can see themself in). I'm tired of romantic dramas (especially kdramas) playing it safe with cardboard-cutout protagonists who have no real edges or depth or sore spots in the human sense but act like idiots simply because that's what the plot demands of them. Here we get a protagonist who acts like a human being and charms the viewer with her unique mannerisms and personality.
I'm a huge fan of the original, but I don't know if PMY and WHJ fit the characters they're supposed to recreate in the Korean version. I'm willing to be proven wrong, of course, but I actually think KJH would have been a better fit for the ML role.
Can't sure right now because plot drama version much different than novel. But in novel, ML didn't go back to…
I see, thank you! I think they've changed A LOT of things in the drama because today's episodes revealed the ML remembers the "present" and also went back in time after the elevator incident.
I think this change was necessitated by Chinese TV censorship guidelines, which prohibit shows from showing regression/time travel after death. We can probably expect the protagonists to wake up in the present day at the end of the drama and address the reasons they're unhappy with their lives based on the lessons learned in their shared dream. And this wouldn't be possible if the ML actually died, ergo he has to be in a coma too, ergo he's experiencing the same phenomenon as the FL.
He said to his cousin that she was 2-3 years his junior. So, he's 20-21?
He said he was admitted to a direct-entry PhD program, i. e. a BA-MA-PhD. He's still in the undergraduate portion of the degree.
Since it looks like he graduated from High School No. 7 before the FL was a freshman (because they don't seem to remember each other from school) and high school lasts 3 years in China, he's probably a junior or senior in college. I'd say he's 3-4 years older.
In the novel he's 10 years older than her (!), but thankfully they've changed a lot of stuff for the better.
Just watched the first episode, which was very fun. I do have a question, though, and I don’t mind being spoiled. Did the older Lin Zhihua also go back in time or was it just her?
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My issues with the drama all stem from its handling of the leads’ backstory. They’re both quite immature on the surface and Won Ji-an can’t help but look her age no matter how severe her haircut and powersuit may be. I just can’t buy that these people are 38-39. They should have made them ten years younger. The flashbacks are slightly excessive too, and less engaging than the present-day scenes.
Someone with a bit of personality like Seo Kangjoon or Kim Youngkwang would be a much better fit. KYK in particular would be great at playing a down-and-out baseball player reckoning with an existential crisis IMO and he usually has good chemistry with his female co-stars. Lee Sangyeob is another actor who would excel at this kind of role, and he's actually played a similar character in the past. If we have to go younger because the character is supposed to be around 30, what about Kang Tae-oh? Or Nam Joohyuk?
This is not a Gong Myung hate comment BTW. I think he's fine. He's just not on HHJ's level.
I have to say Kamuykocha was a total scene-stealer and probably my favorite character together with my pookie Futaba despite his sparse screen time.
Speaking of Futaba, it was hilarious to watch Shujiro treat her like a princess versus how he (and his companions) treated the other inexperienced weakling in their group, whose name I'm forgetting--Shunsuke? Shinnosuke? Anyway. Futaba's innocence was worth protecting, whereas his marked him as deserving of death. It rules when sexism works in our favor for once, amirite ladies?
(We'll see who has the last laugh when Shinsuke or whatever his name is inevitably goes mask off and turns out to be a psycho hitman or a badass government spy who was pretending to be a helpless crybaby all along... This better happen at the end of S2 for maximum drama because it's my favorite cliché in the genre.)
On the opposite end of the spectrum, in the sector reserved for characters I wish I could banish straight to the MH370 crash site, we have Bukotsu. This bitch annoyed me every time he was on my screen. Don't get me wrong, I get his character; he's lashing out at the world because he feels he's been left behind and the only thing he can do is kill people, he's a relic of a bygone era, blah blah blah. I get it!!! But here's the thing. He's not supposed to turn to the camera and explain, "I'm lashing out at the world because I feel like I've been left behind and the only thing I can do is kill people. I'm a relic of a bygone era," while killing people! Has no one heard of Freud around here? Bukotsu's attention-whoring motivations should have been hidden even from himself, let alone the viewer. It's like he was running around naked and pointing at his junk the whole time.
Anyway. Ninomiya Kazunari was perfectly cast as the smug and enigmatic MC of the kodoku. This was basically the same character he played in Black Pean, where he was also very charismatic. I get the sense purely based on the casting choice for this role that Enju will be more important to the story in S2.
Kyojin and the siblings were also very fun.
Lastly, Shujiro's wife was sleeping off a cholera infection the whole time? This woman deserves a sword to decapitate her husband with and I can only hope she'll get one soon.
The flashbacks are kept to a tasteful minimum, the music is both good on its own and used very effectively in context, the characters are good, and each episode is self-contained and tightly structured.
Han Hyojoo's performance is particularly impressive. I'm not even talking about the fact she's acting in a foreign language, which is already an amazing achievement, but about the life she breathes into her character. Lee Hana is an old-school romcom heroine in the sense of being a little strange and a bit of a loser and yet garnering the viewer's sympathies because of her emotional vulnerability and because she comes across as a real person (even if she's not a person every viewer can see themself in). I'm tired of romantic dramas (especially kdramas) playing it safe with cardboard-cutout protagonists who have no real edges or depth or sore spots in the human sense but act like idiots simply because that's what the plot demands of them. Here we get a protagonist who acts like a human being and charms the viewer with her unique mannerisms and personality.
I think this change was necessitated by Chinese TV censorship guidelines, which prohibit shows from showing regression/time travel after death. We can probably expect the protagonists to wake up in the present day at the end of the drama and address the reasons they're unhappy with their lives based on the lessons learned in their shared dream. And this wouldn't be possible if the ML actually died, ergo he has to be in a coma too, ergo he's experiencing the same phenomenon as the FL.
Since it looks like he graduated from High School No. 7 before the FL was a freshman (because they don't seem to remember each other from school) and high school lasts 3 years in China, he's probably a junior or senior in college. I'd say he's 3-4 years older.
In the novel he's 10 years older than her (!), but thankfully they've changed a lot of stuff for the better.