I wonder why the parents gives zero attention to Soobin, they are almost the same age but treated so differently
There was a VERY brief reference at the cafe when HJ mentioned that Ji Woo was taking the place for Soo Bin because he hurt his arm playing basketball IIRC. But that was several episodes ago....
I think they really blew an opportunity in ep 35 to end the amnesia meme quickly and cleanly: When GW & HJ inform their parents & TaeJu that she's pregnant, etc, THIS would have been the perfect time for TJ's memory to "click" and remember she knew that, and suddenly all the pieces in her mind would fall back in place...she could stand up and shout "I REMEMBER NOW!!!" amidst all that drama with her mother/step-grandma. In other words, that shocking memory has holding everything back. Oh well.
The schizophrenic nature of this series continues...Ep 34 was boring and almost pointless, while 35 felt like one of the best in the series, and gave us (IMO) the best scene in the series, where MY/SR and GW/HJ meet in the cafe. But, then I'm a GW/HJ supporter so I'm biased I guess.
The guys in the accounting department at that DNA testing company must be thinking, "MAN, are we killing it this quarter with all these DNA tests! Sales are thru the roof!"
I swear, it feels like there are 2 different writers on this show. One gives us the sweet romantic and funny scenes with GW/HJ and MY/SR. The other is writing this dopey amnesia story-line with characters that I could care less about, possibly trying to return focus to the main couple who have seemingly gone to the wayside because the other 2 couples outshine them?
Here is my opinion on this paternity question. Sang Joon is not the father. The uncle is the father, he had a…
I agree with much of your post, Pachecopc. He is obviously 'fixing' the DNA results somehow. But that lady is NUTS though, and I think that she genuinely feels SJ is the dad? Young-sik is using her and the situation to his advantage. To me it's puzzling, but not that interesting, and every time that crazy woman gets screen-time, I FF.
Why do I get the feeling that SJ gives her up, she goes to the producer and just as they are about to marry she has a breakthru and SJ discovers the truth?
It’s on Viki. They didn’t air an episode on Saturday as it was the 31st, I guess
Correct, the KBS 2022 Awards show took the Saturday timeslot. IIRC, in years past, the next day (Sunday) slot was then used for a holiday (Xmas/NYE) musical variety show, and there was no program in prime-time for the weekends. Now, they created an interesting situation, where KBS America, which is usually 2 episodes (one weekend) behind KBS World, is now only one episode behind. Maybe they'll re-sync and show us the Awards show next Saturday?
What is also odd, is they didn't post the spoilers for Ep30 on YouTube when they put up the clips from Ep29.
I’m finding the ending to this show is now a big disappointment. Episode 46 was so good, now we get a storyline…
I'm with you 100% Sean. Just saw both 47/48. And I am really disappointed they have gone this direction with only 4 episodes left. They need to do some fan service and give us resolution to: YuNa/SooJae and both couple's babies. I mean COME ON. We've invested 45+ episodes in this series and NOW they decide to change direction? Given this show's lack of any significant time-jumping, how will they cover the babies birth?
Your rant is well-deserved and shared. I watched Ep 25 online yesterday, and remembered how much fun this series used to be.
Many viewers have voiced their concern that Su-Jung/Jung Eun has been given too much screen time, and I also have…
Jamie, that's an interesting point. I too have seen the ire directed at this, especially at Ms. Bae. I don't think she's doing that bad of a job, but her role in the series has been diminished, for sure. At the beginning of the show, she had a lot more to do, in getting her marriage dissolved (she even had a conversation in English, which I appreciated) and seemed a competent young woman. But the show hasn't done her any favors, either. At least twice, they've caught her glancing at cue cards instead of the person she's talking to. Those scenes should have been caught and re-shot. Who is watching the monitors while production is being taped? I have my own issues with some of the show's attention-to-detail in production, mostly in continuity errors, but things like that should never make it on-air.
I'm sure it's uncomfortable to have a decorated veteran actress like PYJ in a supporting role, so probably this was inevitable? It really makes me wonder how much of this show is being written "on the fly", as production continued?
Hae Jun was fine that Yoon Jae contributed less financially while dating but after marriage on her honeymoon,…
Actually he DID purchase more stock (or at least planned to) in a couple of episodes before the marriage, when he planned to give her "more money". At least at that point, according to the price index, the stock he is following is at a low point, so he got a good deal. The bad news is if the company (ME Technic, I think?) goes bust, he's screwed. Remember HJ chided him for being a sucker for bad investment advice. A few episodes before the marriage he talks to HJ (who dumped his stock in the same company) and mentions the stock is down 40%. This is why she warned him before the marriage not to lose any of HER money (they would need it to get by) . Now that they are married, this couple has 3 open plot lines: YJ needs a car (minor point); The stock investment situation needs to be resolved ( I keep hoping that whatever medical devices ME Technic is developing will come to market and the company is bought out and stock soars); and finally child rearing.
Honestly, we all seem to interpret the characters differently based on our backgrounds. If you're interested in a realistic presentation of how 6 different people handle falling in love, it's worth a shot!
hi drama fan!this lead me to understand an other common trait between you and HaeJ: you two take things way too…
Deidra, what makes this series so interesting to me is how we all view it differently. We also draw our own conclusions from those interpretations. Ours simply differ. (I'm actually MinHo's age and would have liked to seen a couple based on their age group, but the Dolts hit a nerve for me for reasons I've stated before.)
Bear in mind, that even the strongest people have weaknesses. And sometimes those weaknesses can be fatal flaws. History shows us this.
Thank you for the kind words.
PS - It occurred to me last night that the biggest problem facing them isn't her. It's the relationship between YoonJae and his Mother. I'll post an observation on this later on, once I sort it out.
At the risk of offending some, I won’t try to excuse the Dolt’s behavior but I’d like to offer an explanation for what is going on with them, specifically her. I think that some of the criticism is justified and others not so much. These are not perfect people. And I don’t understand Korean Culture or norms, so I’ll keep it as generic as possible. I don’t expect anyone to agree, but I feel compelled to try….
"She’s pushy". Yes, she is. She’s a successful lawyer, who is a woman, no less. She runs her own law firm. She projects a strong, competent persona on her TV appearances. You need to be pushy to accomplish those things. And lawyers ARE pushy. Look at HyunJae. He’s equally pushy and yet I don’t see anyone condemning it (see his behavior on the double-date on the beach in Ep 23). Why is it accepted for him?
"She’s too pushy with YJ." See above. What is she supposed to do with a broke, emotionally-immature, nerdy 40-year old bookworm who lives with his parents and would rather study than start dating? Look how far YJ’s come. She has dragged him out of his shell and has worked hard to make him live up to his potential as a man. No, it hasn't been pretty, and she did some dumb stuff too. But if she wasn’t pushy and just gave up on him after the 2nd dental appointment, he’d be living in his parent’s home until he’s 60. Do you really think the blind-date girl in her 20s was the right match for him? Or that he’d find someone from a TV-dating-show match-up willing to invest her time and emotional capital in him ? I don’t. I don’t know if moving to a more centralized apartment is a good idea or even possible in Seoul. She DID ask him if that is what he wanted, but he knows that she needs some stability at the start of their marriage and let’s face it, it IS a nice apartment.
"She shouldn’t have tagged along with HJ’s lunch with his mom." This is true. So why did she insist? She is becoming increasingly afraid that something is going to go wrong. She correctly feels the unease KA has regarding her after she met them. She knows the elevator incident is a factor here and the WHOLE POINT of tagging along was for her to try to explain, one-on-one, that to KA. So she grabbed the opportunity. Otherwise, what chances would she have to do so? She is desperate to try to clear that up so KA would accept her. Remember she has trouble with impulse-control (see my review of Ep30) and her insecurity and desire to feel accepted exceeded what she normally should have done (see next paragraph). The problem here is that she isn’t aware of how deeply KA is against her. YJ has done a poor job of being honest about that. The 4 of them (Min Ho, KA, YJ, HJun) need to sit down and open up to each other. I’m not even sure that will work though, as KA isn’t quite right, mentally. HJun could cure cancer and KA would ask her “What took so long?” Barring a plot-twist, HJun needs to accept that KA will never like her or support the marriage. That will be very, very hard for her, because she will have no mother figure at all to lean on.
Try to understand that HJun is a single woman in her 40s trying to navigate the emotional minefield of falling in love. Her situation is exceedingly difficult, as we are not built for that. While we are physically capable of it; emotionally, it’s a completely different story. Love is for young and innocent couples who can handle the intensity of the blizzard of emotions that come from pair-bonding. But after your late-30s, things change for us. We become disillusioned by seeing our married friends divorce and the stress they endure. We become skeptical when friends and family tell us how lucky we were to never marry. I’ve lived thru this, so has she. Add to this that she is a DIVORCE LAWYER. She’s handled probably hundreds of divorce cases and as she told MiRae, “romantic feelings can easily be blown away” (Ep20). Talk about being gun-shy! And that blizzard of emotions does not diminish with age, she's being hit by the same feelings YuNa & MiRae are. She has become increasingly fearful that something will happen to screw up her chance with YJ, and has asked him twice in recent episodes if he’s changed his mind or doesn’t want to marry after all. Add to this a hostile prospective mother in law and unsupportive (at best) family. Her insecurity is getting the better of her now, and it’s going to dictate where this takes their chances of getting married (again, think “impulse-control”). YJ needs to take the lead now, can he do it?
Food Issues. Really? OK, so let’s look at this. She works long hours, comes home late regularly and has to work from home in the evenings and weekends too. Her mother didn’t teach her cooking (for whatever reason) and she had no time to learn in college/law school. So she eats out virtually all the time. As a result she has a cholesterol problem (Episode 1). YJ was raised in a home with an expert cook but couldn’t be bothered to learn even a fraction of what HJ did? YJ didn’t have to worry about food, as he just came home and had home-cooking every night, and take-out lunches with the staff. So there is no food history between them. PERIOD. The answer is for them to take cooking classes in the evenings/weekends. They need to be able to prepare healthy meals on their own without the crutch of raiding refrigerators. But until they are self-sufficient, they need a helping hand on occasion.
Finally, KA vs HJun. KA is drawn to YuNa types that she can identify with, and easily mould/manipulate. She must be the Alpha-Female in any relationship with her son’s girlfriends. In MiRae (poor MiRae) she sees another bright young face she can manipulate - the first thing she says on seeing MiRae? “she seems sensible (Ep30)”. HJun does certainly NOT fill that bill for her. Another Alpha-Female in her own right, who is powerful, attractive, successful and intelligent and is not someone KA can identify with or manipulate. KA is intimidated by her, elevator incident or not. Did HJun lie to her about casual dating during their meeting? I guess? (This was a key scene in Ep 32 and I'll go into it in depth, in a review later this week) But remember where the relationship was going at that time: NOWHERE. He told her he had no feelings for her and out of desperation to save things, she offered it up. Also remember that YJ knew all about what was going on with her regarding the lie to Ms. Sun....was he playing with her feelings? She yelled in the elevator "why doesn't he like me", not "why are we casual dating?". If she were honest with KA, she should have told her how much time and effort she spent in the relationship with her Dolty Son. But doing so may have offended KA, so she had to bring it down a notch.
So, take a high-strung, increasingly frantic, single woman in her 40s, add in a dolt of a boyfriend, a hostile mother in law, a brother who is trying to sabotage their marriage, and a co-worker who can't understand why she's trying to date his brother. Given all this, are you expecting everything to go OK?
And I will end with this: for KA to bring up, to YJ’s face about HJun’s mom not being alive (as a criticism) completely crosses the line for me. He knows how HJun hides the pain from her mother’s premature death deep inside her, so this must have shocked him. Add to this, is that KA has lots of other issues with all her son’s behaviors as evidenced by her talk with MinHo after she and YJ got into it. What a mess!
I don’t expect to convince anyone that the Dolts are saints or HJun is flawless. We all see the same show and process it differently depending on our experiences. I understand and appreciate how the writers are trying to show the different ways love affects us, no matter how old you are. They have realistically showed us the challenges each of the couples face and how they struggle to handle them.
Why do I get the feeling that SJ gives her up, she goes to the producer and just as they are about to marry she has a breakthru and SJ discovers the truth?
More Sweet Potato and Cafe Couples please!!!!
What is also odd, is they didn't post the spoilers for Ep30 on YouTube when they put up the clips from Ep29.
Your rant is well-deserved and shared. I watched Ep 25 online yesterday, and remembered how much fun this series used to be.
I'm sure it's uncomfortable to have a decorated veteran actress like PYJ in a supporting role, so probably this was inevitable? It really makes me wonder how much of this show is being written "on the fly", as production continued?
Honestly, we all seem to interpret the characters differently based on our backgrounds. If you're interested in a realistic presentation of how 6 different people handle falling in love, it's worth a shot!
(I'm actually MinHo's age and would have liked to seen a couple based on their age group, but the Dolts hit a nerve for me for reasons I've stated before.)
Bear in mind, that even the strongest people have weaknesses. And sometimes those weaknesses can be fatal flaws. History shows us this.
Thank you for the kind words.
PS - It occurred to me last night that the biggest problem facing them isn't her. It's the relationship between YoonJae and his Mother. I'll post an observation on this later on, once I sort it out.
"She’s pushy". Yes, she is. She’s a successful lawyer, who is a woman, no less. She runs her own law firm. She projects a strong, competent persona on her TV appearances. You need to be pushy to accomplish those things. And lawyers ARE pushy. Look at HyunJae. He’s equally pushy and yet I don’t see anyone condemning it (see his behavior on the double-date on the beach in Ep 23). Why is it accepted for him?
"She’s too pushy with YJ." See above. What is she supposed to do with a broke, emotionally-immature, nerdy 40-year old bookworm who lives with his parents and would rather study than start dating? Look how far YJ’s come. She has dragged him out of his shell and has worked hard to make him live up to his potential as a man. No, it hasn't been pretty, and she did some dumb stuff too. But if she wasn’t pushy and just gave up on him after the 2nd dental appointment, he’d be living in his parent’s home until he’s 60. Do you really think the blind-date girl in her 20s was the right match for him? Or that he’d find someone from a TV-dating-show match-up willing to invest her time and emotional capital in him ? I don’t. I don’t know if moving to a more centralized apartment is a good idea or even possible in Seoul. She DID ask him if that is what he wanted, but he knows that she needs some stability at the start of their marriage and let’s face it, it IS a nice apartment.
"She shouldn’t have tagged along with HJ’s lunch with his mom." This is true. So why did she insist? She is becoming increasingly afraid that something is going to go wrong. She correctly feels the unease KA has regarding her after she met them. She knows the elevator incident is a factor here and the WHOLE POINT of tagging along was for her to try to explain, one-on-one, that to KA. So she grabbed the opportunity. Otherwise, what chances would she have to do so? She is desperate to try to clear that up so KA would accept her. Remember she has trouble with impulse-control (see my review of Ep30) and her insecurity and desire to feel accepted exceeded what she normally should have done (see next paragraph). The problem here is that she isn’t aware of how deeply KA is against her. YJ has done a poor job of being honest about that. The 4 of them (Min Ho, KA, YJ, HJun) need to sit down and open up to each other. I’m not even sure that will work though, as KA isn’t quite right, mentally. HJun could cure cancer and KA would ask her “What took so long?” Barring a plot-twist, HJun needs to accept that KA will never like her or support the marriage. That will be very, very hard for her, because she will have no mother figure at all to lean on.
Try to understand that HJun is a single woman in her 40s trying to navigate the emotional minefield of falling in love. Her situation is exceedingly difficult, as we are not built for that. While we are physically capable of it; emotionally, it’s a completely different story. Love is for young and innocent couples who can handle the intensity of the blizzard of emotions that come from pair-bonding. But after your late-30s, things change for us. We become disillusioned by seeing our married friends divorce and the stress they endure. We become skeptical when friends and family tell us how lucky we were to never marry. I’ve lived thru this, so has she. Add to this that she is a DIVORCE LAWYER. She’s handled probably hundreds of divorce cases and as she told MiRae, “romantic feelings can easily be blown away” (Ep20). Talk about being gun-shy! And that blizzard of emotions does not diminish with age, she's being hit by the same feelings YuNa & MiRae are. She has become increasingly fearful that something will happen to screw up her chance with YJ, and has asked him twice in recent episodes if he’s changed his mind or doesn’t want to marry after all. Add to this a hostile prospective mother in law and unsupportive (at best) family. Her insecurity is getting the better of her now, and it’s going to dictate where this takes their chances of getting married (again, think “impulse-control”). YJ needs to take the lead now, can he do it?
Food Issues. Really? OK, so let’s look at this. She works long hours, comes home late regularly and has to work from home in the evenings and weekends too. Her mother didn’t teach her cooking (for whatever reason) and she had no time to learn in college/law school. So she eats out virtually all the time. As a result she has a cholesterol problem (Episode 1). YJ was raised in a home with an expert cook but couldn’t be bothered to learn even a fraction of what HJ did? YJ didn’t have to worry about food, as he just came home and had home-cooking every night, and take-out lunches with the staff. So there is no food history between them. PERIOD. The answer is for them to take cooking classes in the evenings/weekends. They need to be able to prepare healthy meals on their own without the crutch of raiding refrigerators. But until they are self-sufficient, they need a helping hand on occasion.
Finally, KA vs HJun. KA is drawn to YuNa types that she can identify with, and easily mould/manipulate. She must be the Alpha-Female in any relationship with her son’s girlfriends. In MiRae (poor MiRae) she sees another bright young face she can manipulate - the first thing she says on seeing MiRae? “she seems sensible (Ep30)”. HJun does certainly NOT fill that bill for her. Another Alpha-Female in her own right, who is powerful, attractive, successful and intelligent and is not someone KA can identify with or manipulate. KA is intimidated by her, elevator incident or not. Did HJun lie to her about casual dating during their meeting? I guess? (This was a key scene in Ep 32 and I'll go into it in depth, in a review later this week) But remember where the relationship was going at that time: NOWHERE. He told her he had no feelings for her and out of desperation to save things, she offered it up. Also remember that YJ knew all about what was going on with her regarding the lie to Ms. Sun....was he playing with her feelings? She yelled in the elevator "why doesn't he like me", not "why are we casual dating?". If she were honest with KA, she should have told her how much time and effort she spent in the relationship with her Dolty Son. But doing so may have offended KA, so she had to bring it down a notch.
So, take a high-strung, increasingly frantic, single woman in her 40s, add in a dolt of a boyfriend, a hostile mother in law, a brother who is trying to sabotage their marriage, and a co-worker who can't understand why she's trying to date his brother. Given all this, are you expecting everything to go OK?
And I will end with this: for KA to bring up, to YJ’s face about HJun’s mom not being alive (as a criticism) completely crosses the line for me. He knows how HJun hides the pain from her mother’s premature death deep inside her, so this must have shocked him. Add to this, is that KA has lots of other issues with all her son’s behaviors as evidenced by her talk with MinHo after she and YJ got into it. What a mess!
I don’t expect to convince anyone that the Dolts are saints or HJun is flawless. We all see the same show and process it differently depending on our experiences. I understand and appreciate how the writers are trying to show the different ways love affects us, no matter how old you are. They have realistically showed us the challenges each of the couples face and how they struggle to handle them.
Thanks for your time.