I do too but SS said for his MIL to stop him, he is on his way to face MR’s family.
CR has to support her. I don't think MR is strong enough to go against her mom without a alot of pain. KS/MR have to do something to get CR on their side. They can do without the Chairman, but they need her Mom at least. JH and SJ don't matter.
You're really gonna hate it when you see it with subtitles. UGHHHHH
Yeah, KS let me down. when he cancelled their date and chased after MIL, I felt, "what are you, a teenager?"I can see how SS, as an outsider may feel that way, but he doesn't know enough about MR/KS/JD to say anything. He should have just told him to be careful so no one gets hurt, and to be respectful of her family (which we know he will be). And MR seemed to waver after the MIL brow-beat her. Thank goodness JD perked her up (at least tried to).
I do too but SS said for his MIL to stop him, he is on his way to face MR’s family.
I'm afraid he's going to say something like, "first your daughter tries to worm her way into my family, and now you are!" insinuating, that he and JD are some kind of gold-diggers.
I don't think I like 2 episodes in one day. Hopefully this is the last of that. Oddly what sticks out in my mind is how HUGE green onions are in Korea! I mean, OMG, nothing like what we have in So. Cal.
It was interesting to see HR give MR some good advice about KS's dad. And now I'm thinking...it might not be HR who blabs to JanDi about her lineage. It will be SunJu, if she comes back. It may be a matter of overhearing, but I'm starting to think that way.
It is sad to see so many of the adults be so dubious over KS/MR due to class differences. I wonder if this situation is that unrealistic in SK life? oh well. in 95: -SooJi pointing her finger at JD's forehead. THAT really pissed me off. I wanted JD to just swipe it away when she kept doing that (I know she couldn't). -YJ daydreaming of Little Dong. This is making me uneasy. - I wish JD had stormed into JP's room and said "HEY JUNPO, GET YOUR ASS OUT OF BED AND COME TO SCHOOL NOW!" - The kid who plays JP is a really good actor.
in 96: -SD talking facts to MIL. We know his intentions stink, but right now, he's on the mark concerning SK's in-laws. - I agree with the rest of you: SS was unnecessarily cruel in talking to KS. Good for KS in trusting his heart - I wonder if the actress playing Aunty Ding looked at the script and said, "Really? I have to be the one to blab THIS secret too????"
Looks like next week will be the uncomfortable part , which once resolved, we get SunJu to screw things up again? I am thinking more than ever, she needs to come back in order for the MIL to see how bad a person she was, so she can apologize to KS and let him go to be with his new family. I don't know of any other internal mechanism that will force her to kick him out of her house. SunJu is too obvious of an external force to make it happen.
i um, wrote a reply regarding TK and where i disagree but that became a post on its own which i will submit later…
Oh OK, somewhere a couple of months ago it was mentioned that it was the YLAG writer, I thought? Or maybe I'm confusing with my daily I watch? What is the name of the upcoming weekender?
i um, wrote a reply regarding TK and where i disagree but that became a post on its own which i will submit later…
I think you're all correct in one way or another, this is just what keeps bouncing around in my head. It's hard for me to get excited about this series now (unless they do something amazing) because I just can't undo the last 8 episodes. Yes, DW is a dummy and non-supportive brother, but I do think in that one instance he did try to help YD. YM is a girl who is too wealthy for her own good and needs to be exposed to real life outside of college and her hobby-job. TK, is TK, our hero who's been a punching-bag for his family and YD, which I guess changes now for the better? And I completely agree with Fullybaked about YD. She is a shell of the character as initially written.
Other than that, forgive me for not wanting to engage in a spirited debate because they've made me not care. And with the next series coming up being written by the YLAG writer, I'm not that optimistic for the next half of the year.
BT, get some rest, because in 24 hrs we'll be waiting for your summary. Here we go again.
Today is going to suck, was looking forward to watching the episode later today. But I guess tomorrow will be…
What gives????? For the first time I sit down to watch the show without reading comments first, AND ITS NOT THERE!!! GEEZ. I even got a Hamburger from Bobs Big Boy to eat while watching. GRRRRRRR
I'm so confused with this show now, I honestly don't know how to approach it anymore. I know we should just mentally reset back to Ep 31/32, but that's easier said than done. What’s the point of analyzing a show that makes no sense? I still feel that by doing that, I’m somehow enabling bad scripts and making excuses for incompetent work by the writer(s). And I hate doing that. We all deserve better.
So I’m having a rummage sale in my brain and tossing out the last odd thoughts that have been lingering around. I’m just going to sit back and (try to) watch with bemused interest on how they are going to resolve everything. Getting emotionally involved in something that is illogical, is frankly, illogical.
So I present to you, three items sitting on a card table in driveway of my mind. (how we do rummage sales here in California):
TK- I normally defer to BT’s exhaustive analysis of him (plus I don’t want to piss her off – LOL). He is such an interesting character, who still strikes me as a bit of a sociopath. Honestly, he comes across as sort of a weirdo, disagreeable sort. His antisocial behavior is well-excused by the abuse he’s been constantly subjected to in his 20 (or 16, whichever you believe) years of living with the Gong’s. Plus, who knows what was going on in his life before then? He simply had given up caring about anything, thus why it was relatively easy to just apologize to JH at that tea ceremony – he could care less who it pleased, or that it might be humiliating, it was just an onerous chore to just get it over with and leave. All these things that are important to others are irrelevant to him, and his solution to life was to live in a thick shell to keep everyone out. I mean, let’s face it, the guy’s ‘hobby’ was to stare at a wall and contemplate life. He was happy to live away from them in his own place and simply be left alone. He can’t form meaningful relationships with women and his co-workers have accepted his icy demeanor. Then along comes YD, and she cracks his shell open and now cautiously emerges a TK willing to accept others into his life, as long as no one tries to place themselves between him and YD/ HN. This is why her leaving him made me so mad. She dragged him out of his shell and left him to fend for himself. I still have a hard time trusting her character, even half as much as he does.
DW- OK, I’ll take some heat for this. First off, he’s a dummy, so that explains a lot. And he fears BN (as in “terrified”) and blindly follows her orders because of this, including the inexcusable taking-HN-from-her-crib. One thing that most folks hate about him was his initial urging for YD to abort the twins. Which brings me to my point, I can actually understand this, only in these terms: I believe BN put him thru a living hell when he brought baby SK home. Given what we’ve seen with BN’s behavior with YD, would you expect any different? I think, as her brother who went thru a similar situation, he was trying to protect her and give her the benefit of his experiences. “Get an abortion so you don’t have to go thru what I did…Mom will drive you insane - you won't be able to handle it!” is the line he should have said way back then. Don’t get me wrong, he’s still a dummy who wasted a lot of his life in a drunken stupor in bars at night, instead of being home to help his uncle raise his daughter. But I think, in that one instance, he was trying (in the only way he knew how) to help his sister and protect her future.
YM – This is my last attempt to explain/understand her. The minute I saw how shocked she was to see YD, something clicked. The only explanation that fits her part in this couple’s complete ignorance of what is surrounding them, is that she’s been ostracized from her family because of her ties to InOk and her older siblings fear of anything they say within her earshot getting back to InOk. Thus I have to believe the siblings tell her NOTHING and all she knows is from what InOk or her father tells her. We rarely see her interacting with her siblings anyway – she’s been the odd man out ever since she returned from the US (remember she only came back for Spring Break – she was supposed to return to school to complete her PhD). And when she does interact, it’s usually in a group and not in positive terms. (I don’t think we’ve EVER seen her have a private conversation with any of her siblings, other than TK.) The latest instance was when she chastised her siblings for not being able to manage a house without ‘their’ Mom. The divide between her and the rest of her peers can be for many reasons – the age gap between them; their Mother died giving birth to her, thus blaming YM on some level; her attachment to InOk; her closeness with TK. Such a scenario is the only way I can figure that she can be surprised to see YD in the house, and with a child no less. All she knows is in general terms of what’s happening with her family over the last year and I use ‘general’ in the vaguest sense because obviously NO ONE will even talk about YD. That doesn’t excuse the both of them not managing to figure out there’s a LOT of coincidences happening to them, but that’s the stupid plot they have dragged us into. All that is on the writers for figuring we are OK with two people being that oblivious.
Please writers, let's move on and finish off this series on a high note.
Oddly what sticks out in my mind is how HUGE green onions are in Korea! I mean, OMG, nothing like what we have in So. Cal.
It was interesting to see HR give MR some good advice about KS's dad. And now I'm thinking...it might not be HR who blabs to JanDi about her lineage. It will be SunJu, if she comes back. It may be a matter of overhearing, but I'm starting to think that way.
It is sad to see so many of the adults be so dubious over KS/MR due to class differences. I wonder if this situation is that unrealistic in SK life?
oh well. in 95:
-SooJi pointing her finger at JD's forehead. THAT really pissed me off. I wanted JD to just swipe it away when she kept doing that (I know she couldn't).
-YJ daydreaming of Little Dong. This is making me uneasy.
- I wish JD had stormed into JP's room and said "HEY JUNPO, GET YOUR ASS OUT OF BED AND COME TO SCHOOL NOW!"
- The kid who plays JP is a really good actor.
in 96:
-SD talking facts to MIL. We know his intentions stink, but right now, he's on the mark concerning SK's in-laws.
- I agree with the rest of you: SS was unnecessarily cruel in talking to KS. Good for KS in trusting his heart
- I wonder if the actress playing Aunty Ding looked at the script and said, "Really? I have to be the one to blab THIS secret too????"
Looks like next week will be the uncomfortable part , which once resolved, we get SunJu to screw things up again? I am thinking more than ever, she needs to come back in order for the MIL to see how bad a person she was, so she can apologize to KS and let him go to be with his new family. I don't know of any other internal mechanism that will force her to kick him out of her house. SunJu is too obvious of an external force to make it happen.
What is the name of the upcoming weekender?
Other than that, forgive me for not wanting to engage in a spirited debate because they've made me not care. And with the next series coming up being written by the YLAG writer, I'm not that optimistic for the next half of the year.
BT, get some rest, because in 24 hrs we'll be waiting for your summary. Here we go again.
Note to self: READ COMMENTS FIRST.
I'm so confused with this show now, I honestly don't know how to approach it anymore. I know we should just mentally reset back to Ep 31/32, but that's easier said than done. What’s the point of analyzing a show that makes no sense? I still feel that by doing that, I’m somehow enabling bad scripts and making excuses for incompetent work by the writer(s). And I hate doing that. We all deserve better.
So I’m having a rummage sale in my brain and tossing out the last odd thoughts that have been lingering around. I’m just going to sit back and (try to) watch with bemused interest on how they are going to resolve everything. Getting emotionally involved in something that is illogical, is frankly, illogical.
So I present to you, three items sitting on a card table in driveway of my mind. (how we do rummage sales here in California):
TK- I normally defer to BT’s exhaustive analysis of him (plus I don’t want to piss her off – LOL). He is such an interesting character, who still strikes me as a bit of a sociopath. Honestly, he comes across as sort of a weirdo, disagreeable sort. His antisocial behavior is well-excused by the abuse he’s been constantly subjected to in his 20 (or 16, whichever you believe) years of living with the Gong’s. Plus, who knows what was going on in his life before then? He simply had given up caring about anything, thus why it was relatively easy to just apologize to JH at that tea ceremony – he could care less who it pleased, or that it might be humiliating, it was just an onerous chore to just get it over with and leave. All these things that are important to others are irrelevant to him, and his solution to life was to live in a thick shell to keep everyone out. I mean, let’s face it, the guy’s ‘hobby’ was to stare at a wall and contemplate life. He was happy to live away from them in his own place and simply be left alone. He can’t form meaningful relationships with women and his co-workers have accepted his icy demeanor. Then along comes YD, and she cracks his shell open and now cautiously emerges a TK willing to accept others into his life, as long as no one tries to place themselves between him and YD/ HN. This is why her leaving him made me so mad. She dragged him out of his shell and left him to fend for himself. I still have a hard time trusting her character, even half as much as he does.
DW- OK, I’ll take some heat for this. First off, he’s a dummy, so that explains a lot. And he fears BN (as in “terrified”) and blindly follows her orders because of this, including the inexcusable taking-HN-from-her-crib. One thing that most folks hate about him was his initial urging for YD to abort the twins. Which brings me to my point, I can actually understand this, only in these terms: I believe BN put him thru a living hell when he brought baby SK home. Given what we’ve seen with BN’s behavior with YD, would you expect any different? I think, as her brother who went thru a similar situation, he was trying to protect her and give her the benefit of his experiences. “Get an abortion so you don’t have to go thru what I did…Mom will drive you insane - you won't be able to handle it!” is the line he should have said way back then. Don’t get me wrong, he’s still a dummy who wasted a lot of his life in a drunken stupor in bars at night, instead of being home to help his uncle raise his daughter. But I think, in that one instance, he was trying (in the only way he knew how) to help his sister and protect her future.
YM – This is my last attempt to explain/understand her. The minute I saw how shocked she was to see YD, something clicked. The only explanation that fits her part in this couple’s complete ignorance of what is surrounding them, is that she’s been ostracized from her family because of her ties to InOk and her older siblings fear of anything they say within her earshot getting back to InOk. Thus I have to believe the siblings tell her NOTHING and all she knows is from what InOk or her father tells her. We rarely see her interacting with her siblings anyway – she’s been the odd man out ever since she returned from the US (remember she only came back for Spring Break – she was supposed to return to school to complete her PhD). And when she does interact, it’s usually in a group and not in positive terms. (I don’t think we’ve EVER seen her have a private conversation with any of her siblings, other than TK.) The latest instance was when she chastised her siblings for not being able to manage a house without ‘their’ Mom. The divide between her and the rest of her peers can be for many reasons – the age gap between them; their Mother died giving birth to her, thus blaming YM on some level; her attachment to InOk; her closeness with TK. Such a scenario is the only way I can figure that she can be surprised to see YD in the house, and with a child no less. All she knows is in general terms of what’s happening with her family over the last year and I use ‘general’ in the vaguest sense because obviously NO ONE will even talk about YD. That doesn’t excuse the both of them not managing to figure out there’s a LOT of coincidences happening to them, but that’s the stupid plot they have dragged us into. All that is on the writers for figuring we are OK with two people being that oblivious.
Please writers, let's move on and finish off this series on a high note.