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hmmm ok ok ok... post-credits scene--- I got it. I've never waited after the post-credits to be honest with this show...
but yeah I get why this can be understood as "it was a dream all along"

BUT...
1. why would they show scenes with KK in the car
2. why is the dream: Tin taking care of him and then the trip... I don’t know

I mean... dreams are weird and whatnot but still

aaannnnddd, the fact that Tin isn't there to take care of him... How could he have known that Siu Muk would get sick. What was he supposed to do? Fly back to Hong Kong from Taipei?
- I mean realistically, when this happens, a couple just checks in on one another... which is what they did (BOTH of them)
I think that dream sequence in the end, was just to show us how much SM misses Tin and he wants him there. I think that's a fair and very normal feeling to have, not just in their situation, but even if they would have been together for 30,40,50 years.
SM thinks about Tin and wants to be with him (like he told Darren "I like him, and I feel good when I'm with him").
And this is still the beginning of their relationship. There's like a million red flags BUT, if they both put in the work, it will get better.

also...inbox!!! 😅

I think towards the end, where they decided to be together or say ily 🤟. But still … that didn’t do it for me 🤷‍♂️

Wait? it was a dream?

EP 11: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x82n4mg

Boy, O boy ... what an episode.

What I didn't like:
- Did Tin ever tell Siu Muk about the business trip to Taiwan with KK? I think it was an offscreen thing, but I wish to have seen that conversation play out.
- Tin not telling KK that he should stop pursuing him, unlike Siu Muk that actually told Darren loud and clear.
- Siu Muk: "There's a difference between telling them and them finding out." Erm SM, you wanted Tin to be open about it... well this is as open as it gets...announcing it...so STFU and enjoy your boyfriend taking this huge leap for you and your relationship. Thank you, next.
- Still not enough Siu Muk X Tin - I want more.

Now that we got that out of the way, I really did enjoy this episode:

We see KK try to pursue Tin again, with the help of Francesca, which by the way, kudos to her for again being such an ally after this whole drama happened to her, which must have been so emotionally and psychologically draining. Not only is she helping him, but she's also keeping herself updated on the situation.
But poor Louis, he was trying to have a drink with her, but there is KK, talking to her about Tin. First Tze Chin, and now Francesca with KK. Like he can't seem to catch a break from women who are somehow involved with Tin. But that God he "confesses" to her... sorta... I guess, or flirts...Anyway, I really wanna see them together.

While there's drama outside of work, even at work we see drama.
Tin's Sister comes to check for some houses, not to find Tin, but Siu Muk, who offers to help. They talk about Tin, his future and relationship, what his parents want from him (spoiler: what most hetero cis people want for their children ), and for Siu Muk to possibly introduce him to a girl. Siu Muk clearly looks upset but she doesn't seem to notice.
If this wasn't enough, he gets sick, takes the day off to rest, and to feel better. Now, this is soon interrupted by Darren, how still wants to get back together with him. He asks Siu Muk, if he's really happy with Tin, if he'll ever be happy, and if Tin is even happy to be with him.
After talking to Tin on the phone, he tells Darren that they can never be together and to stop pursuing him. - Siu Muk got balls bitch. I fucking loved this moment. Siu Muk is a bold bitch... This moment y'all... my jaw dropped to the floor, left town. Good for you Siu Muk.

Siu Muk and Tin go to Tai O for a few days, where Siu Muk grew up. (this clearly makes KK sad but he doesn't get in their way). On their way there, Siu Muk kisses Tin on the lips, which throws Tin off, he looks around to see if people saw him.
- Now, a lot of people would be like... ugh nooo, just be proud, and yadi yadi yada. Well, chill, because we all know that it's not easy. I believe that Tin has true feelings for Siu Muk: when they were calling each other Tin asked so many questions to make sure Siu Muk was ok when he was sick. They seemed to have a lot of fun in Tai O.

8.5/10

To be honest , I didn’t even know it was up on youtube for free. I just saw the drama on dailymotion and thought to check it out

Of course I want to support the whole team because they put sweat, blood and tears on the show. And just like any job, theirs should be praised too.

Erm, hi... I'd like to know what harm does sharing a link so that EVERYONE can watch it... (Yes Dailymotion is banned in some countries, but in other ones it isn't... and it's not even illegal in most countries of this world.)

What I'm trying to say is that... if I share a link here it's because I didn't use a VPN. So others who don't have that luxury, can watch it too.

In my profile I have a whole list of places where I watch my dramas and movies, and I can't afford to pay for them, so yeah I share whatever I can for those people who are like me. - (Not) Sorry for trying to help others.

Gaaaaaaaggggg !!! Biiitchhhh ... I'mma record myself reading this comment as if I was a Karen demanding a black man to not exist 🙄😳 - these emojis aren't right, but think of a Bianca Del Rio face.

You went off and I was here for it. I agree with you. You can make the best movie ever, well maybe a good ass movie, without a big budget. As you said: Either a show has a good plot, good acting well-done production, good directing, etc, etc, or it does NOT. It is either good, bad, or somewhere in between
- And I wet my pants when I read it... So just taking them off 🤣

Well, I've only seen the 2016 movie version of this, I haven't seen the Jap Series... but if SM will be like Fuck Off, I'd fly to fucking hong Kong and slap the shit out of the whole prod team. Playing with our emotions like that. TF

Thank you for that detailed explanation about your hazing experience. It really makes me look at it from another perspective as well.

But however, we didn't do hazing in HS nor College. We just developed friendships by observing people, testing the waters and understanding how people thought and acted. It was more of a "dump your kid in the water and see if they can swim" kinda situation. Which I personally loved, because we weren't forced to do anything against our will, by the seniors. On the contrary, the seniors because they had exams and whatnot, they barely talked to us. We of course made our own individual friendships with them, but it wasn't on a deeeeeep level, just barely deep or more then shallow.

Edward Chen, from YNEH, he's fucking handsome.. I really do have to watch his work though, because I like his acting.. So Red Ballon it is then.

Regarding Love, Victor.. I would watch Love, Simon; Love, Victor 1 & 2 because it really tells a story.. it's an interesting one and I've seen the things that the characters do, in real life. God, I'm experiencing some of them right now. And it's not just about Gays, but about straight, lesbians, childhood trauma, parenting, social issues, etc etc etc...
I really did enjoy it to be honest
It falls into "The Effect" vibe where things are taken seriously, and it's not like.. out we're not gonna address this issue.
- This reminded me of TharnType... SPOILER: Type was raped when he was a kid, and instead of actually talking about it with Tharn, or going to therapy and dealing with the issue.. he does nothing... I understand that his relationship with Tharn was new at the time, but still. It should have been addressed and handled better.

This was OK... APPLAUSE ... The only thing I didn't understand was the ending... Did Uly say that Cloud couldn't handle the breakup? - What breakup?
1.It was either a dream but it can't be because of the letter and rings.
2. The translation was wrong... break malfunction... but why was he crying?

Can someone please explain it to me?

This was like... sad, sad, sad, happy, sad: Truck-Kun 😅
There were some audio issues but nothing too serious.
- The acting in the end.. After River found out about Cloud... he was calling him as if he was a dog, wtf
He barely looked shocked, to be honest.

But hey, this short teaches us to never give up.

8/10

yes Yes YEEESSSSSS

Finally, somebody who said it.

Look, I understand uughwhat's comment (SOMEWHERE IN THIS PAGE) that this is a big step for Hong Kong, and we shouldn't be harsh on it, but still.
I'm not going to deny the fact that the production is fire, however... we are indeed missing the relationship part of it all... where is it? Is this show trying to show us the people who aren't comfortable with being in an LGBT relationship? ok, but they're a couple.. they should act like one, at least in their own home... KK went above and beyond and showed Tin a lot of affection and didn't give a shit of what others thought... like Darren, who was basically begging to be with SM.

And, yeah that outfit was horrendous... in Michelle Visage's words: Now this look tonight y'allll. Absolutely no, no. That face, beautiful; that lip, gorgeous; that outfit, burn it.

So yeah, Tin, come on. We're getting more from the other couples, than from you and SM. I wanna see you guys developed more as a couple. Don't let me down. Cause I need you right now. I think I'm losing my mind now.

found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibtB1MNEQAg

Where did you watch it, if you don't mind me asking?

As TikTok-ers would say nowadays: Not us talking about 3 completely different dramas at once 😅

I feel you, I really do.
- SOTUS: I've read somewhere in the comments that this is/was a real thing in Thailand. And it's common for them. It's basically hazing, which is also a thing in US Unis/Colleges ( fraternities and sisterhoods ). But that show really put too much focus on that like (3/4 of the series was about hazing). Personally I'm not a fan of it. The whole: you have to do whatever I say, cause I'M YOUR SENIOR....FUCK THAT... That can be discussed in bed, if you're kinky like that... but in school... bitch...ain't nobody gonna tell me what to do. It was just a big fat NO for me. I haven't watched Season 2 to be honest... maybe I should just to know if they fixed anything.. but meh...
- just like BenxJim (I really hated their toxic relationship in season 1) and for season 2, I just watched whatever was free (just some parts of the episodes), because I really thought it was a waste of time (and to be honest SPOILER: in season 2 he's with another guy, and I literally was rooting for the other guy to be with Ben 🤣...I was like fuck you JIM... you don't deserve him)

The Effect:
I loved the open ending because it leaves room to sooooooo much discussion, like a never-ending one to be honest ... just like this one 🤣 But I agree with you and the parents... they should have done better... take the money and sue the other family... 🤣 There isn't any contract for the money.. nothing legal.. so just take it.. pay for Shin's mental health and physical health treatment and get just hope for the best
I feel you on the whole feeling bad for Teng, because we come to love these characters and we want them to be together (sometimes)... and I've been in a similar position to Shin's and I wanted to do what you suggested: "to at least kneel down and put his hand on Teng's head...maybe even say nothing, just take that action." But that's beside the point.
But the final scene was sooo fucking heartbreakingly real because it shows that trauma sticks with you, and for some people, it may never go away. FUUUUCCKKK!!!!! 😭🤬

Regarding IPYTM, I LOVED the realness in the series, to be honest. Yes, there were some flaws but the overall concept and execution were amazing. I would have been ok with both endings, to be honest (Your Name Engraved Herein vibes), but seeing them together really melted my heart 😭🥰. Again I've been in Oh-Aew's position... and all I can say is that it's a difficult one.
- like the finale of Love, Victor 😅

ALSO, NOT ME DROPPING ALL THESE SHOWS AND DRAMAS TO KNOW IF YOU'VE WATCHED THEM 🤣

I really enjoyed the Pilot. Even though I played it at 2x speed, which is usually what I do with Thai Dramas, I felt good about it.

I loved how Best fell for Dew just like that. Very straightforward. We know what is going on. And Best's Best Friends are sooo supportive. Love It. Very MATURE.

And Best, writing a song for Dew, but seeing that girl... ahhhh. Reminds me sooo much of myself in HS.

Well for now 10/10

I love it that you're expressing your thoughts on this, to be honest 😊
I feel you on losing the show - Tin carries out the comedy here, and we do get a lot of side stories, but maybe it was for the audience to relate to all the characters and to give depth to them? I don’t know 🤷‍♂️

"The Effect" - well me neither, because it cut to black before we saw anything, but just the sound of the car, and Shin "seeing/imagining" Keng there - triggered me, and I thought it triggered Shin to try and commit suicide again.
IPYTM - Lots of people take them back, lots of people don't. I want to see Oh-aew and Teh together, that's why I was rooting for them. There's always a "what if" - referencing MARVEL too 😅
- What if Teh does it again? What if Oh-aew chose to move on? - and all of these what if's are acceptable because it's real life.

And again, we're seeing these shows from the Director's and the Writer's perspectives. They want to share their POVs.
I'm not saying that every POV is perfect, but it's something.

And there's no room for hate on this website... Just love and respect
- Unless it's SOTUS... FUCK OFF WITH THAT SHIT 😅 (Watch all the SOTUS fans, come for me 🤣)

Ou 😅 . I give it a 10/10 because for me this is a side of the story that I can relate. I've been some of these people in this drama. I've acted like them, and this tells me that this is real... I believe that dramas shouldn't always do what we what otherwise it would be perfect, like we live in a happy world without any problems.... Life isn't like that... there are... I've met people like Tin, who didn't want their relationship exposed like that
I was in a relationship like that. ( I was SM by the way )

Sometimes, we feel like it's not our place to talk about some stuff, but later on we realise ... fuck that... or ok, it is what it is.

We want things to be as politically correct as possible, but life isn't like that. And this is the beauty of it.

Like for example: "The Effect" or "I Promised you the Moon", Do I agree with some of the decisions that the characters made? NO. But I still think that it's what a lot of people do, because of the different personalities what he have.
- ⚠️⚠️⚠️MAJOR SPOILER FOR WHO HASN'T SEEN THE DRAMAS WILL START NOW ⚠️⚠️⚠️
--- In "The Effect" Shin - the main protagonist... from what we see... in the end will commit suicide.
--- In ""I Promised you the Moon" Oh-aew got back with Teh, even after Teh cheated on him.

I totally agree with you... Some scenes just make me go "WHYYYYYYY!!!!! 🤬" So many missed opportunities.
- even though we didn't get to see SM and TC interact a lot, I believe that they had a good relationship, and they could discuss everything, even though they don't know each other that much.
Like come on now

EP 10: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x82kznq

Chiiilllleeeeeee, what an episode.

Tin and Siu Muk have to have units for this artist couple (Kathy BB and Wong Siu Kei) who need to keep their relationship together for fear of how it will affect their lives. Sounds familiar?

Apart from that, we delve deeper into:
1. Francesca and Louis' relationship, where they go to a cute cat bar and order something to drink. ( She is moving on from KK, and gives him her blessing. )
2. Carmen and Ping, where not my surprise Carmen can destroy a whole chicken with her bare hands. I love that. And I love the fact that Ping is madly in love with her., and tries to give Tin some advice on love too.

3. Tin and Siu Muk: I feel for Siu Muk sooo much, because all LGBT people what it's like to want to hold your partner's hand, but not being able to. But here comes Tze Chin to the rescue (yas bitch, come through ally). She slaps him in the head and basically tells him that what he's doing is selfish and that he's not considering Siu Muk's feelings. Tin tells her that he just needs time to adjust, but she comes back with "Is there a timetable, or schedule for that?" This makes him think about it.
And the next day the famous couple fight, because a woman saw them together the previous day and this triggers Kathy BB, and on a spur of the moment decide to break up, (all of this right in from of Siu Muk and Tin)
A little bit of background:
- Kathy BB doesn't want to tell people, because she's afraid that it will affect their work - like Tin
- Wong Siu Kei wants to go public, so to make it easier for them - like Siu Muk
Siu Muk tells them that Tin and he, are in a relationship and that he understands both sides. They reconcile and decide to go public on a press interview the next day. At the office everyone watches it and Tin decides to go public with Siu Muk too, which leaves everyone shocked (especially KK), but Siu Muk seems to be surprised and kinda implies that it's a joke, leaving Tin shocked.

Ou and one thing, somewhere in the episode KK offers Tin to go to Taipei for work, to become a manager. Tin doesn't want to go but eventually gives in. - Now I have some issues with this scene. Mainly because Tin is in a relationship with Siu Muk. How the hell did he agree to this without discussing it with him first. And this is never mentioned again in this episode. (Maybe in future ones?)

10/10

🙂 Yi Zi Tong... KO

Thank you aprilnwright. I got it now... damn I was so clueless... throwing a reference there haha.
And yeah, I want the backstory... I want to see Shi Lei and Yi Zi Tong "fight" for Jin Yu Zhen, and Shi Lei win.
Come on, just a few more episodes... we're almost there.